Return To The Pit compilation?[views:32107][posts:114]________________________________________________ [Feb 4,2006 9:39pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Remember New England Is Wicked Pissed? What if there was a RTTP comp? With live tracks from the show, and maybe live tracks FROM shows and such? or something? and mastered at a pro mastering studio? Who would get in on this? I was thinking part of the money from all sales could go to Aaron so he can keep the site, show, and pics going. thoughts? |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 4,2006 9:47pm - infoterror ""] GOOD IDEA NO EMO |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 4,2006 10:19pm - the_reverend ""] the driving force behind the last comp quit on the site after his gf found some bs he typed. this killed the idea of the second comp unfortunately. |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 1:19am - josh fucking hates you ""] my gf has been cool lately. there where some retards airing shit i did not need. but either way. I mostly got lazy cause i work 50 hours a week as opposed to being unemployed last time. and did have every intention of doing volume 2. i talked to several bands that where all down with volume 2. i did want to leave some space at the end for some live tracks from the radio show. last time there was no mastering cause there was no money for it, if people want to find ways to raise more money then that would be awesome. I still have $50 from my pretentious erection and a check from keenan of death without weeping for $50 that i never cashed and a cd/song from catalyst. Porphyria sacreligion throwing shrapnel hand choke neck for the worse are some bands that said they wanted to do it, i think i talked to other people i think mike from ftw was gonna ask colin from coa if they wanted to do it. rev might of had a special guest. I'm still down. Who wants to do the art? does that kid at hold true do mastering? get rates. last time we got the 1000 cds pressed and shipped for $1100. so add mastering to that. |
| _______________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 1:27am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] nice |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 1:38am - brian_dc ""] since we've changed our lineup and have shorter songs now, we would be into it...but if you don't want repeats of last time I respect that the we I speak of is Dour Cursiva |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 1:50am - anonymous ""] perils of reasoning will contribute again. we're recording at MWM in march |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 2:02am - brian_dc ""] ooooh, MwM...that's what we did...get it mastered at West West Side. That is my suggestion. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 2:10am - BornSoVile ""] I'll call you tomorrow Josh. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 3:18am - Otto/BOL (NLI) ""] my band Burden of Liberty would definetly be all in for the second comp., we wanted to do the first but couldn't get the song back from the mastering in time. Bluntface Records would be willing to be a sponsor on the second disc as well. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 6:03am - Sinistas ""] I know you probably want different bands for the second one, but Dreaded Silence has a non-album track we might be interested in putting on... |
| __________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 9:35am - dyingmuse ""] shroud of bereavement has a short 4 1/2 minute edit that we made for a seperate comp that never got used. we would like to part of this. if there happens to be room left, just let one of us know. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 9:42am - brendannli ""] i never got my new england is wicked pissed. fucked up. |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 9:43am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] I think the NEiWP comp vol 2 should still happen aside from this. I was thinking something similar in concept except: A) it gets sold. 1000 get made and 300 are dedicated to promotional copies for radio stations, giveaways, etc. B) more labels that have been helped by aaron and aaron's work could get on board. A double disc set split between a few labels comes to barely anything each. C) one disc could be all live tracks, focusing primarily and possibly exclusively on live perfomances on the RTTP radio show. The other would be studio tracks by bands. D) 20% of sales could go to Aaron's show. If it sells for $15-$20 from distros / bands (it IS a double disc set) that means 700 units x $15 = 10,500. 20% of this is $2,100, allowing 8,400 potentially to go to everyone else. These are up-in-the-air numbers I am throwing out for suggestion, but you get the idea. E) part of me really likes the idea of a 4 or 6 page booklet with this that has credits, an RTTP bio, etc etc This is all up to everyone's input, how much work each person is willing to put in... I was thinking something that focuses on RttP and what has come of it. |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 9:44am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] possibly more than a thousand run depending on funding and who wants to work on it. I would imagine if, when asked the right way and by the right people, Prosthetic, Metal Blade, Black Market, and other such labels -- that have thrived in part due to what Aaron has helped to create -- would want to get on board. |
| _______________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 10:02am - slowlypeelingtheflesh ""] thats a good idea im sure my friend howies band would be interesting in this |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 10:26am - Joe/NotCommon ""] If you are going to do a disc of live songs, I must insist Hellblock6 be included. |
| _________________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 11:08am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] what if it were a live audio CD and a live DVD? that may even be more cost effective overall...I don't know how to author a DVD menu or commands or anything, though |
| __________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 11:18am - Dankill ""] I smell exculsive Goratory track |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 11:20am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Dankill said:I smell exculsive Goratory track What does it smell like? |
| __________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 11:27am - brian_dc ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:what if it were a live audio CD and a live DVD? that may even be more cost effective overall...I don't know how to author a DVD menu or commands or anything, though Jake from DC has strewn together DVD menus with his Powerbook in the past, I don't think it's too hard. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 11:36am - Otto_B.O.L. ""] the duel cd/dvd is a great idea, i think that would be huge hit. Like i said if this is really gonna happen you can count us (Burden of Liberty) and Bluntface in. we co-sponsored the first one w/Joe and Heavy Rotation, and it was fucking great. that disc represented NE metal so well, it's too bad there couldn't have been a bigger pressing of that first disc. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 11:45am - Sinistas ""] a huge hit? what? |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 11:49am - Otto_B.O.L. ""] Sinistas said:a huge hit? what? haha well maye not a huge hit as in sales or anything. what i meant was a huge hit w/the metal heads in New England, it would probbaly be big exposure for the bands on it. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 11:53am - Joe/NotCommon ""] I think a DVD wouldn't be the best idea. Who wants to sit in their living room watching bands they dont know play inside a radio station studio? I think a double disc is a cool idea, particularly with live songs from the show. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 12:00pm - Otto_B.O.L. ""] Joe/NotCommon said:I think a DVD wouldn't be the best idea. Who wants to sit in their living room watching bands they dont know play inside a radio station studio? what if the dvd was footage from live shows and the cd was live from the RTTP show? |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 12:02pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] How would a DVD of live shows have anything to do with RTTP though? If the idea is to promote what Aaron does then it still doesnt seem like a good idea to me. If you want a DVD of new england bands then it should be called something else. Of course thats just my opinion. |
| _________________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 12:06pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] I figure Aaron shoots live shows and a DVD of bands playing live would make sense I like watching bands I've never seen before on DVD, but futhermore footage from some of the bigger bands that have appeared on the show would get people interested I dunnow, I mean we can all come up with the idea. At the basic level I am hoping for a comp that have RttP live tracks and some studio tracks by bands, plus a booklet with info about the show and aaron's work. It's a good time for us to start giving back to someone who's given us a lot in terms of airplay, photos, a website, band pages, etc etc and just plain being a nice guy that shows up and goofs around. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 12:09pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Aaron touched my butt once. What a fag. |
| _________________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 12:43pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] for one CD in full color jewel cases, 3 colors on CD face, 12 page booklet, clear tray, shrink wrapped, and UPS it comes to 1840 before shipping and taxes. to make it a "dual disc" which is one side CD, one side DVD it comes to about double that. I wonder how much it is to do 2 CDs in the same case? these prices are from DiscMakers |
| _________________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 12:45pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] it's 1690 for these hip looking "eco-wallets" 1590 if we don't get the "wafer seal" over the mouth http://www.discmakers.com/music/products/w101.asp I still can't find the price for a double disc, though |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 1:09pm - Otto_B.O.L. ""] Joe/NotCommon said:How would a DVD of live shows have anything to do with RTTP though? If the idea is to promote what Aaron does then it still doesnt seem like a good idea to me. If you want a DVD of new england bands then it should be called something else. Of course thats just my opinion. good point. what i was thinking was a cd of all the live audio tracks from RTTP performances, and the dvd live footage would be those same bands, so it would still have a RTTP theme. But a dvd might work better as a seperate entity from the CD |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 1:11pm - Otto_B.O.L. ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:it's 1690 for these hip looking "eco-wallets" 1590 if we don't get the "wafer seal" over the mouth http://www.discmakers.com/music/products/w101.asp I still can't find the price for a double disc, though what about www.pcxmedia.com or www.datadisc.com Pcx specializes in short runs and are really cheap for the jewel case. i have no idea about double disc $$$. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 1:20pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Fuck Discmakers, use http://www.dgrinc.com/ |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 1:24pm - the_reverend ""] how would you get live footage for the bands that already played? |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 1:27pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] I was thinking live footage period. Not from the RttP sets, that's impossible |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 1:31pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] PCX does CDRs |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 2:44pm - josh fucking hates you ""] nick, the double disc set you can get by special quote. that was the original idea for volume if you remember correctly. i checked diskmakers, dgrinc., superdups, wonderdrug and about 50 other places and the place the i went to http://www.builtbyicon.com/ was by far the best price and service anywhere even on the double disc. funny how this thread is starting to read exactly like the original NEIWP threads http://www.returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=15560 http://www.returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=15790 I would to have liked to make a bigger booklet too but at that time we rushed to get it done for the metalfest which I would not do again. Last time 600 copies where given away at the fest and all the bands got 10 copies and 100 or something went with dwyer to MDF and more, i think i still have 30 or 40 laying around. This time I think bands should get more like 30 copies and the rest go to promotion and maybe distribution channels. selling them for 15-20 is too high and unrealistic. 5-10 at the most. forget about profits and dividing percentages. worry about breaking even. i sent e-mails to prosthetic, black market, and metal blade. just didn't happen. I guess rev knows someone at metalblade and can get someone for the comp i don't know about full blown sponsorship. basicly you want this to be exactly what i wanted volume 1 to be but could not arrange in time. you could push forward with your rttp comp or help me with volume 2 and make the NEIWP series everything you and I picture in an "rttp" comp. either way the groundwork is already in place. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 2:55pm - the_reverend ""] I can get just about anything I want from MB and hence BMA if it were done the same way as the original. with $$$ and selling involved, I don't know. prosthtic is a tougher beast to crack. ej does most of the work there and he's always so busy. hence the guy pushing 70-100K log CDs |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 5:49pm - cousinit ""] Hardtimes would be up for this..... Hear some unmastered shit here - www.myspace.com/masshardtimes |
| __________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 7:08pm - contagion ""] we'd do it. not that anyone gives a flying shit. |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 8:57pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] well part of what I was thinking was to get Aaron some money to keep doing this, make his life easier. Would exposure in general be a big help then, Rev? Cause then yeah, a free disc or disc sold to break even makes sense I guess. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 5,2006 8:59pm - BornSoVile ""] Dankill said:I smell exculsive Goratory track yeah dan what the fuck are you talking about? |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 6,2006 1:02am - SacreligionNLI ""] maybe a DVD would be a good idea, but not of live tracks of every song on the album. a couple live videos that are good and worth putting on, then a gallery of pics that aaron has taken and a giant list of local bands with their contact info and such |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 6,2006 1:24am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] dude a collection of some pictures Aaron was really proud of on a DVD would be a GREAT idea, I think. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 6,2006 1:34am - SacreligionNLI ""] contagion said:we'd do it. not that anyone gives a flying shit. :thescream: |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 6,2006 1:36am - SacreligionNLI ""] this really is a good idea...it's like a NEIWP on steroids, as long as there's someone around who can do DVD menus cuz i sure as hell don't know shit about that either |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 6,2006 1:41am - my_pretentious_erection ""] uhhh yeah count me in i guess, i wanted to do new swatchdogs shit anyway or just something new. josh still has 50 dollars of mine. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 6,2006 8:25am - DreamingInExile ""] dyingmuse said:shroud of bereavement has a short 4 1/2 minute edit that we made for a seperate comp that never got used. we would like to part of this. if there happens to be room left, just let one of us know. we could either use that, or the "live" version of 'And Their Tears Shall Flood The Earth' (which is about 6:30 in length) either way we're down for helping out with vol. 2. I'll even contribute artwork for the comp, or do the layout if others contribute artwork. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2006 10:15pm - infoterror ""] GET DEMILICH TO RECORD A TRACK + REV AARON SINGING "LOUIE, LOUIE" |