Matt from NEPGMfest just barred me from taking pictures
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[Aug 8,2006 1:05am - mcmahon ""]
yah, holmes walked out. i was sitting directly across the small table from him with henry from mortis deveia. i made no attempt to hide the fact i was pissed. it got realll quiet in the room and i think it made him uncomfortable.
[Aug 8,2006 1:34am - the_reverend ""]
funny... I have never to my knowledge ever received anything from him except the occasional spamletter or a post on this site (user http://www.returntothepit.com/profiles.php?nickname=Othniel77 ). he has never asked me for pictures and besides the last conversation, all the conversations that we’ve ever had was either him explaining the fest thinger or what bands they were getting to headline the festival. I did a quick search through my emails (I have 98% of all my emails since 1999-ish) and the only instances of NEPG are from system things that I get when certain changes happen on the RTTP server.
As everyone out there knows, I'm extremely hard to "work with" and an extreme pain in the ass. Don’t the serfs know they must pay the rev tax? How dare they! Let them eat cake…
Then he gets all butt hurt because I didn't mention his name in association with every show. I know if I had gone to the "fest" I would have had something on the main page or something about the fact that is was NEPGMwhatever... but when every single show a fest or pre-fest, that is a bit ridiculous. Sometimes a show is just a show and sometimes things are actually done altruistically... at least on my end.
[Aug 8,2006 1:40am - the_reverend ""]
It’s also ridiculous since MD actually paid for the ticket that was in my pocket. By the way, the show I headed to instead of this one had over 250 kids at it and was in the middle of the most inbred town in NH, Epping (even Raymond makes fun of Epping). When I got there, the two kids at the door asked to shake my hand. A fun time was had by all.
[Aug 8,2006 2:15am - Sacreligion ""]
some promoters don't understand the job description
[Aug 8,2006 6:51am - sinistas ""]
Othniel77 is Anders, not Matt.
[Aug 8,2006 7:49am - the_reverend ""]
I thought they both had posted from it.
oh well.
[Aug 8,2006 8:18am - xmikex ""]
sounds like someone's afraid the camera's gonna steal their soul
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wut uhh dUmMy
[Aug 8,2006 8:34am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
It's not really a big loss at all, but the audacity to say the rev just takes pictures and posts the bands and never mentions the name of the event. The name of the event is usually in the forum thread...
This guy is extremely short-witted. Not only for the Rev business, but for having the nerve to ask $500 for an UNPROVEN fest. There is no evidence that any band paying $500 will have any measure of success equivalent to that $500 or that they are even getting a chance to play with large nationals and further their exposure. What is this? Perhaps Jack Koshick is secretly behind the PaganGothNewEngland fest or whatever it's called.
Keep your pay to play scams out of our fucking scene.
[Aug 8,2006 9:37am - succubus ""]
that guy is full of crap...it's better that aaron doesn't promote someone like him and his events. aaron and i were talking about it this morning and it's his loss. Why would aaron want to associate with someone taking advantage of local bands by charging them ridiculous amounts of money?
[Aug 8,2006 9:55am - sinistas ""]
for the record, this aside, Anders and Matt have hooked us up with shows on countless occassions (including our cd release show at Bill's Bar in December) and I've had no problems with them. We're actually playing a show for Anders in October at the Skybar w/A Cold Reality.
[Aug 8,2006 10:06am - the_reverend ""]
as I said, anderson didn't do anything. I have absolutely no issues with her. matt is the one that did this. seems like "banning" me is the "cool" thing to do now-a-days. I think this trend is just plain annoying.
[Aug 8,2006 10:27am - xmikex ""]
I SAY WE GET THIS CLOWN ON HERE TO OWN UP TO HIS ACTIONS!
p.s.
fight fight fight!
[Aug 8,2006 10:40am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""]
If I was in a band looking to get on a fest I'd go with a proven fest that asks me to pay $500 and has the awesome track record of not having a venue for last year's fest until the day of the show.
[Aug 8,2006 11:10am - Josh_Martin ""]
Wait a minute... There are actually bands who think paying $500 to play a show is a good idea???
What am I missing here??
[Aug 8,2006 11:13am - mcmahon ""]
prepay $500 for 50 tickets
[Aug 8,2006 11:28am - xmikex ""]
hahaha TICKETS.
You need tickets for 3 things:
1. The opera
2. Whitney Houston at Madison Square Garden
3. Cub Scout Raffles
[Aug 8,2006 11:30am - the_reverend ""]
actually, someone running the door tried to sell me a raffle ticket, but I was too busy trying to get up to the front and see the band.
[Aug 8,2006 12:00pm - sinistas ""]
the_reverend said:as I said, anderson didn't do anything. I have absolutely no issues with her. matt is the one that did this. seems like "banning" me is the "cool" thing to do now-a-days. I think this trend is just plain annoying.
Oh, I hear you. Unfortunately, his decisions obviously affect their joint efforts. Hopefully this "boycott" won't affect the stellar turnout I was expecting in October. haha
[Aug 8,2006 12:04pm - tittytwister ""]
yeah ummmmm... boycott
[Aug 8,2006 12:12pm - succubus ""]
-1 xmikex
whitney houston?
she couldn't fill the Palladium let alone MSG
[Aug 8,2006 12:25pm - pam ""]
I wasn't going to that shit fest in the first place, now I just have another reason. Fuck that guy.
[Aug 8,2006 12:45pm - mcmahon ""]
i took 150+ photos of random bands during the show. i'm suprised he didnt say there was a problem or didn't asked for a copy of the CD i was handing out to the bands after. they are no where near rttp quality, but they are still photos of bands and the crowd.
also, its worth noting that he recorded the entire show on video. both venues. i bet they have you on video during MD, aaron. and if they have that, they probably have the discussion we had right after on tape too. hah!
[Aug 8,2006 12:54pm - Yeti ""]
this guy is Kenny Lanning in disguise.
[Aug 8,2006 1:09pm - xmikex ""]
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[Aug 8,2006 1:31pm - anonymous ""]
I thought they were married and had a coupla kids?
[Aug 8,2006 1:35pm - Josh_Martin ""]
mcmahon said:prepay $500 for 50 tickets
I understand the concept. I don't get why anyone would think its a good idea. (anyone other than the promoter that is)
[Aug 8,2006 1:36pm - GoatOfCatalyst ""]
the_reverend said: butt hurt QUOTE]
tee hee
FUCK THIS GUY IN THE FACE!!!
[Aug 8,2006 1:36pm - anonymous ""]
At least it's cheaper than Locobazooka. I still can't believe bands pay the price of a car to share a stage for 15 minutes with a one-hit wonder from the 90's.
[Aug 8,2006 1:37pm - hellboyxx9 ""]
Anderson needs to ditch this dunce and get wit me. What a loser!
[Aug 8,2006 1:41pm - anonymous ""]
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70 bands? 5000 people?
[Aug 8,2006 1:47pm - mcmahon ""]
anonymous said:At least it's cheaper than Locobazooka.
no shit. $3,000 just to play or $6,000 for 150 tickets was the quote we got.
[Aug 8,2006 1:56pm - Josh_Martin ""]
That article is a joke right?
Dr. Chud's X Ward drawing 5,000 people???
It would take the Misfits reuniting with Danzig to even come close to that. Some scab drummer who's now an ex-scab drummer couldn't even draw 50 people.
Bands dumb enough to pay to play deserve the assraping their going to get.
[Aug 8,2006 1:59pm - anonymous ""]
Josh_Martin said:That article is a joke right?
Dr. Chud's X Ward drawing 5,000 people???
It would take the Misfits reuniting with Danzig to even come close to that. Some scab drummer who's now an ex-scab drummer couldn't even draw 50 people.
Bands dumb enough to pay to play deserve the assraping their going to get.
depends whose doing the assraping Matt from NEPG or the missus?
[Aug 8,2006 3:04pm - GoatOfCatalyst ""]
FUCK THIS GUY IN THE FACE!!!
[Aug 8,2006 3:21pm - paganmegan ""]
I don't think it is very sensible to refuse to allow someone to take pictures at an event, when taking and posting pics on the internet can only serve to promote said event.
[Aug 8,2006 3:23pm - anonymous ""]
He probably wants to charge bands for the photos, that's why.
[Aug 8,2006 3:38pm - xmikex ""]
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70 bands? 5000 people?
LOOK AT THAT FUCKIN GUY!!!
Yeah I'm gonna hand over my money and my trust to a guy who looks like a mall goth Irwin R. Sheister
[Aug 8,2006 3:42pm - pam ""]
hehehehe
[Aug 8,2006 3:43pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""]
WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS!? MANOWAR!?
[Aug 8,2006 4:00pm - hungtableed ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:
Keep your pay to play scams out of our fucking scene.
A-FUCKING-MEN!
We played one show that was put on for Spaz-tik ltd. on some random Wednesday night somewhere in Somerville. It was a total waste of fucking time as it only turned out to be a band practice in front of the other 2 bands and the 'promoters'. Before we played that freak show broad and her fucking d&d-obsessed-looking boyfriend solicited us to pay them to record a live set that night, take pictures, and/or video tape us. No wonder why they don't want the rev to take pics - they want the bands $$$ and because the rev not only undoubtedly takes waaaaaaaay better pictures but he also does it for free and that just must be so unsettling to them con artist promoters.
I smell a boycott.
[Aug 8,2006 4:04pm - hungtableed ""]
Josh_Martin said:Wait a minute... There are actually bands who think paying $500 to play a show is a good idea???
What am I missing here??
I don't think you're missing anything. It has always seems like a fucking scam anytime we are offered to pay $$$ up front to get on a bill. I am more often than not offended that some fucking dildo wants me to pay them $$ to play a show that they, not I or my band, will make $$ on. Besides, as it is understandable that bands are expected to bring a decent amount of people to a gig, isn't it the job of the promoters to promote the show?
:ralphie:
[Aug 8,2006 4:26pm - Othniel77 ""]
Hi, this is Anderson Mar, co-organizer of the NEPGM Fest, and yes, Matthew's other half. I wasn't sure if I should respond to this thread or not, but I decided I would put in a few words, to try to clear up a misunderstanding.
I handle alot of press and promotions for the Festival (http://www.nepgmfest.com), which will be taking place 9/23-24 at The Palladium. We are currently "touring" (read: doing regional auditions) in several New England cities throughout August.
Manchester has a very vibrant metal scene, which we were very pleased to be a part of on August 6th.
Most of the press and photographers were invited to come to Rocko's to do photos and coverage; and are certainly welcome to watch the NEPGM Fest auditions.
I believe Matthew wasn't expecting the press to do much coverage at Spyder Room, and and most likely would have preferred to have known in advance if someone was going to come and do photos and/or writeups there, since it was a very busy day, and he was also doing video recording for the bands as part of an NEPGM Fest documentary we are working on. The Rev did come and take photos at Rocko's for RTTP of a few bands performing there, and he has also covered a few of my shows at the Skybar, as well as an event of ours at Reflections in Chelmsford.
As for the Fest, we are not "pay to play" - we offer bands a business opportunity. They do get a 50-ticket package, but if they sell all 50 tickets, they have the opportunity to make a profit. As someone pointed out, we are not Locobazooka (not involved with ClearChannel!) and we are trying to do something for the scene, and improve community and "unity through diversity". Matthew and I don't make any profit off of this, considering the costs of booking the Palladium and national headliners. We are doing this to breathe new life into the N.E. scene. He is an excellent businessman with a clear vision for getting New England back on the map and out of the hands of the emo craze and stagnation
As for what happened last year, our first year of the Festival, everything is out in the open under the "Press" section of our official website, http://www.nepgmfest.com
We did end up moving the venue on 3 week's notice, but that was due to censorship on the part of the Lowell City politicos, who were "concerned" about punks, goths, and headbangers hanging out en mass in a ballpark. Either of us would be happy to answer any questions you might have. I am sorry for any misunderstandings that may have occurred.
~Anders
[Aug 8,2006 4:43pm - succubus ""]
well this is the rev's other half. I think it was unprofessional to tell him not to take photos when a band got him in. Bands asked him to go to that show and take photos.
If your husband needs people to ask his permission then he should make that clear to the bands. Just sounds like his ego was bruised because Aaron didn't specifically ask him in advance. How come other people were able to take photos? I mean no disrespect to you, aaron said you were nice to him, but the situation is quite ridiculous.
[Aug 8,2006 4:47pm - hungtableed ""]
ding!
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[Aug 8,2006 4:51pm - mcmahon ""]
dont get blood on my keyboard.
[Aug 8,2006 4:54pm - Sacreligion ""]
haha
id give it to carina since she has +30 boob armor...even though this isn't remotely a fight but hey...it's fun to dream
[Aug 8,2006 5:04pm - mcmahon ""]
rttp rpg?
[Aug 8,2006 7:10pm - pam ""]
All promoters should be cordial and GRATEFUL to any and all press that bothers to show up to their events. Bottom line.
[Aug 10,2006 12:17am - anonymous ""]
so who did get teh sponsor spot for the actual fest?????????????
[Aug 10,2006 12:19am - nsnholmes ""]
anonymous said:so who did get teh sponsor spot for the actual fest?????????????
spyder room = change of season
rocko's = bloodshed unreal