Great cheap opportunity to get your band swag into the NE Metal Fest - Oak Knoll Productions table at NE Metal Fest
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[Feb 23,2006 9:14pm - anonymousey ""]
Yeah, so anyone that wants to pay $70 to push JD off a cliff, get in touch soon!
[Feb 23,2006 9:23pm - KeithMutiny ""]
that would pay for the entire fest.
[Feb 23,2006 10:13pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
Get in line.
[Feb 23,2006 10:28pm - anonymousey ""]
or to some that keep replying where they aren't wanted "get offline"
[Feb 23,2006 10:34pm - succubus ""]
actually this is a cool idea..it's like he's sharing his table, which is costing him a lot of $
[Feb 23,2006 10:45pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
Getting other people to pay for the table and they have to give away their stuff, not sell it, yeah great idea.
[Feb 23,2006 10:47pm - BornSoVile ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:Yeah, so anyone that wants to pay $70 to give away stuff for free, get in touch soon!
how bout i give you a 100 cds, you can tell me you'll pay me back, while at the same time you kick me in the nuts! : p
i might be interested jeremy, but i'm not postive. i'll definatley be passing out some sort of promo for sexcrement there.
[Feb 23,2006 10:47pm - brian_dc ""]
then give away demos stickers and pins or whatever...
don't give away your full-lengths or t-shirts...that's not what people are going to want from local bands at metalfest anyway. this is good for exposure. Sooooooo, I would figure that the merch you'd give Jeremy would fit the "free" expectations.
[Feb 23,2006 11:06pm - jrb2971nli ""]
No Dwyer, you're constantly undermining this and anyting you haven't planned yourself. I'm paying $1500 for a table at the fest. I could make it back by selling my stuff there. I won't disagree on that. But also I'm offering at the rates posted above or some negotiated price/barter/or pleaing to help promote others stuff. The stuff people want to put in the swag bags is up to them. For some reason I don't think you get this semi generous offer. Sure, it can be capitalistic in some ways- in other ways it's generously trying to make an effort to help those who want it. Anyhow, for your comments that keep coming out your big mouth like some vile diarreah, they really aren't serving any purpose but maybe of being like a sock puppet spewing out babble. I you don't get it.. you're comments don't apply and are futile. Why not just stand in front of a nursing home protesting the elderly. You'd have better luck there. Swag stuff is like flyers, demo cds, pins, etc.... or maybe you just don't get the idea?
[Feb 23,2006 11:07pm - jrb2971nli ""]
I'm sure if anyone emails me and sets up getting me their swag stuff - I'll negotiate something.. Dwyer just doesn't get it. Then again it could be his funny looks
[Feb 23,2006 11:14pm - succubus ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:Getting other people to pay for the table and they have to give away their stuff, not sell it, yeah great idea.
john, you made your point..now let it go
damn stubborn fellow pisces
[Feb 23,2006 11:21pm - mcmahon ""]
i dunno, $70 is a lot for me. What ever happened to carrying around flyers and hand out CD's like a grunt?
Not as professional, but cheaper.
[Feb 23,2006 11:28pm - succubus ""]
you're not allowed to bring flyers or cd's inside the venue
[Feb 23,2006 11:29pm - pam nli ""]
A good method after the shows, outside. But the palladium no longer allows you to carry fliers and shit inside, they'll throw them out. Been there, it sucks. If you wanna do that though, run to your car just before it lets out and pass your shit out then, you also loose the risk of people getting sick of carrying stuff and tossing it aside. (This especially applies to big stuff like zines) good luck.
[Feb 23,2006 11:51pm - jewsus ""]
mcmahon said:i dunno, $70 is a lot for me. What ever happened to carrying around flyers and hand out CD's like a grunt?
70$ would be for 3 days worth of handing stuff out-if you have that much or wanted it spread out... would you pay $25 for one day of having whatever you want in a bag handed out at my table? What would you consider a good price? For everyone who is just saying the highest cost and thinking they can bring promo stuff into the show... after reading what Pam said.. feel free to haggle with me - I do want to help hand your stuff out - just while I'm working my table I probably can't do it for everyone for free. :shocked:
[Feb 23,2006 11:51pm - dyingmuse ""]
mcmahon said:i dunno, $70 is a lot for me. What ever happened to carrying around flyers and hand out CD's like a grunt?
Not as professional, but cheaper.
70 dollars? for 3000 people do hear your music? pretty cheap in my book. try buying out an add in a big mag. and the price of 3000 flyers, is probably way more than 70 bucks in the long run, you would screw yourself!
[Feb 23,2006 11:51pm - jrb2971nli ""]
hehe I keep giving my anonymous usernames away
[Feb 23,2006 11:53pm - jrb2971nli ""]
The metal maniacs ad I placed was like $350 and that's only since they were offering me a deal on 1/4 b&w. I don't think people realize the price of promotion/advertising. It's not cheap - heck I wish I won the lottery and could sign everyone and make my own major record label for this area
and throw fests with free tickets, etc.. maybe someday eh?[Feb 23,2006 11:59pm - mcmahon ""]
i'll have to take my chances outside the venue. i'm usually to drunk/tired to deal with handouts after the show, so i'll have to think up something crafty to help with the transmition. hand out water on the street with a demo/flyer? there has to be better way...
thanks for the info.
[Feb 24,2006 12:49am - Joe/NotCommon ""]
I am interested. I will have some new WorldEater vs NotCommon samplers by then I think and those would be great to get to the pussies who attend metalfest.
[Feb 24,2006 1:09am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
wow, this thread is far too much.
good looking out Jeremy !
[Feb 24,2006 3:31am - dwellingsickness ""]
I like the idea myself..Least he is lookin out for the locals
[Feb 24,2006 3:42am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
Getting them to pay.
[Feb 24,2006 3:58am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:Getting them to pay.
what have you done to help the scene that was free for anyone.
yes yes we all love and listen dearly to your radio show, but seriously besides the few bands you hone.
what the fuck have you done to help out the greater number of bands around here. nothing is free and if you want people to get your music this is one way to do it.
i can tell you right now, the 99.9 percent of people here arent gonna stand out in front of the palladium to hand out promos of their cds.
let it go man, and just be glad someone here on this board is trying to give a good deal and help some bands out.
[Feb 24,2006 4:17am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
I have done nothing Sean. You obviously don't know your history around here.
I'm not gonna blow my own horn, although we all know how fun that can be!
All you guys pay me and I will get a table at NEMHF, okay? Yeah, right.
[Feb 24,2006 4:21am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:I have done nothing Sean. You obviously don't know your history around here.
All you guys pay me and I will get a table at NEMHF, okay? Yeah, right.
i would never trust you with a penny of mine nevermind 70bucks and sorry im not up on the dwyer history.
all i know of you, is what ive got to go on. so if you were some super hero friend to all the bands of the local scene then i missed out but i havent seen anything to back you on anything.
jeremy on the other hand has been nothing but cool the few times weve run into him. too bad more promoters/distros dont follow step.
[Feb 24,2006 6:59am - anonymousey ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:Getting them to pay.
You keep missing the point, I set a price, even said I'd haggle, barter, trade.. who knows even do it for free for some.
But obviously you keep turning this into some drama. You're worse than a bad soap opera. I should start a fund here to educate you with a hammer to the head.
[Feb 24,2006 7:04am - jrb2971nli ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:I have done nothing Sean. You obviously don't know your history around here.
I'm not gonna blow my own horn, although we all know how fun that can be!
All you guys pay me and I will get a table at NEMHF, okay? Yeah, right.
a history of being one pompeous mutha, ignorant, uneducated, and blowing his pathetic 2 inch horn. really, why don't you go on oprah and tout your claim to fame. All we see you doing here is complaining because someone else is trying to help the scene (now matter how much you twist the facts). What are you doing .. now.. still spewing out rhetoric and selling cds at full price to the locals? Still trading crap cds at shows to other merch tables? Give me a break, your just worried someone else is stepping up to the table and making things happen.
:bartmoon:
[Feb 24,2006 7:25am - robinhoodlumJ ""]
Anyhow - if ANYONE sends me stuff I'll put in in my freebie box, swag bags, mail orders, distro whatever you want and I reasonably agree with- donation, payment or not.. Don't listen to JD - he doesn't get the point and is really does have an ounce of true metalism in him.
I'm not trying to be so righteous - but I have no ego problem with trying to help others. It actually helps me to carry more metal.
EMAIL me info@oak-knoll.com
[Feb 24,2006 8:47am - DreamingInExile ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:Getting other people to pay for the table and they have to give away their stuff, not sell it, yeah great idea.
Listen numbnuts, he's not trying to get everyone else to "pay for the table" he's tryin gto help subsidize the cost of his table. I don't understand why you think $70 is expensive to have your merch at Metalfest. he didn't say he was going to "give it all away" either, so I still can't figure out where that came from.
if you want to do it, GREAT, help the local scene, spend a few bucks to probably make it all back plus more. if not, fantastic, now shut the fuck up. I'm tired of reading your bitching and whining about not wanting to spend a buck to make a buck.
honestly, if I were one of your bands, I'd be pretty pissed that my label wasn't willing to spend a bit of money to promote.
if Jeremy was trying to get everyone to pay for his table, he'd have to get almost 25 (21.43 to be exact) people/bands/labels to give him $70 for all 3 days, or 60 people/bands/labels to give him $25 for a single day (basic math, get a calculator). It's not like he's selling a spot on his table for $100/day, which he could have asked, but since he's an easy going, honest, hard working individual, he's only asking $70 for all three days. That's not a lot to ask in my opinion.
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[Feb 24,2006 9:04am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
I'm just going to hand our new demos out for free, even if I have to do it outside (I won't have 100s). But it's a decent offer, and it's not like Jeremy is profiting.
[Feb 24,2006 9:54am - anonymous ""]
and he did offer that if you contacted him he'd work something out regardless of money. Let's keep that in mind.. just send him stuff and payment, donation or not.. he'll do what he can to help you. So email the crazy fucker!!
[Feb 24,2006 9:58am - Joe/NotCommon ""]
You guys should lay off Dwyer, he has a point. As far as me being interested, from a label standpoint I can get my samplers out there. Dwyer doesn't have samplers, also doesn't seem to need any. He moves alot of product. If I was in some self released band I probably wouldn't get involved, they probably aren't going to create a sampler of just their band because thats costly. Including a flyer is a mix shot, music would be far more instrumental though I'd say. However, the people at this fest are going to be getting alot of free stuff and I com confident the Worldeater/NotCommon stuff will be better then everything else they get so I completely have no idea where I am going with this.
Love you Dwyer!
[Feb 24,2006 10:30am - RustedAngel ""]
I heard Kenny Lanning has a booth at metalfest.
[Feb 24,2006 10:32am - jrb2971 ""]
Hey Rev! give me your comp cds and i'll put them out there also. I think Dwyer is getting some sort of backlash.. I think alot of it is from his witty remarks.. kind of cause and effect.. so if there is less cause? less effect
[Feb 24,2006 10:47am - fishcakes ""]
I just have to say that john is doing alot for goreality. I've known john for over 10 years and before he even heard us play he mentiond us going on his lable. he has since gotten us a new logo,cd cover,and shirt desighn, and he is putting our cd out and it isn't going to cost us a cent. plus he sells it for us and gives us a shitload of copy's. so we have no comlaint's. than'x john
[Feb 24,2006 11:09am - fishcakes ""]
on another note, i still haven't heard gore reality yet. anyone have some mp3's? and how are you pam? \m/>>
www.myspace.com/gorealit1:doublehorns:
[Feb 24,2006 11:18am - poorfan ""]
Now if he sold me your cds for $9 when I was a buck short last time... then that would be truly helping your band and the fans.
[Feb 24,2006 11:26am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
http://www.myspace.com/goreality1
[Feb 24,2006 11:35am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""]
jrb2971 said:Hey Rev! give me your comp cds and i'll put them out there also. I think Dwyer is getting some sort of backlash.. I think alot of it is from his witty remarks.. kind of cause and effect.. so if there is less cause? less effect
Few would forget the fateful day that saw the messageboard fall of Dwyer Duke of Pathos.
[Feb 24,2006 11:35am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
I sell my own CDs for $8, so you were a buck over, nice try.
[Feb 24,2006 12:05pm - mcmahon ""]
I received this in reply to my request for verification on the flyer issue from NEHMF website:
"yes - no flyers. It creates a MESS if you have 1000 people doing it...it's also a hazard if someone slips on the flyers / handbills... No venue in this area (tsongas arena, td banknorth center, dcu center, avalon, orpheum, somerville theater) lets this happen during a show."
food for thought: if the venue is concerned with flyers thrown on the ground and is a safety concern, why do they allow SWAG bags to be handed out? honestly, what are the chances of bag full of flyers and cd's surviving an all day metal show?
[Feb 24,2006 12:12pm - KeithMutiny ""]
theyr concerned people might realised the palladium isnt the only venue in new england that hosts metal shows... shhhh... dont let out the secret.
over priced drinks, tickets, and merch... we love to pay... SHHHH!
[Feb 24,2006 12:22pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""]
SUPPORT THE SCENE...by paying through the nose to see a bunch of bands that aren't from around here.
[Feb 24,2006 12:57pm - fishcakes ""]
poorfan said:Now if he sold me your cds for $9 when I was a buck short last time... then that would be truly helping your band and the fans.
true. but we will give away more than we sell.
[Feb 24,2006 1:24pm - allthebetter ""]
all the better to put your safe flyer like band promo in a bag and get your local band stuff into this opportunity, barely pay through your hose to get real local stuff into the fest through and honest effort
[Feb 24,2006 1:30pm - poorfan ""]
fishcakes said:poorfan said:Now if he sold me your cds for $9 when I was a buck short last time... then that would be truly helping your band and the fans.
true. but we will give away more than we sell.
give away to whom? people whom your fabulous leader thinks is important? Maybe we'll see some samplers or deals at the next upcoming shows. Attention all poor fans! come hither!
'Oh that's just what we call pillow talk, baby, that's all'
[Feb 24,2006 1:33pm - death4u ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:I sell my own CDs for $8, so you were a buck over, nice try.
8 bux!? wow... last time I bought cdz from you they were atleast $10 a pop and most of your stuff iz stickerd at $12. Maybe you are thinking of your 8 bux cassetes. I'll get my peepz to check out your 8 dolla cd table at your next show yo
[Feb 24,2006 1:34pm - fishcakes ""]
I don't know if people will even dig our shit there. plus I don't think it will be ready on time. shit!
[Feb 24,2006 1:34pm - death4u ""]
we seez you sell you own label stuff at eaight but everting else you pimpz out at liek twelve. You still seem slimey to mez sucka