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Bands that fell apart

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[Aug 26,2008 10:54am - aril  ""]
With the new Metallica on the verge of being releasedica, list some (metal) bands that completely fell apart and should have broke up years ago. Here's a few:
In Flames - Anders should have died after Whoracle
Satyricon - Not a huge fan of stuff after Rebel. seems like they barely try anymore
Trivium - this band shouldn't have existed in the first place.
Metallica - GIVE IT THE FUCK UP

and...
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[Aug 26,2008 10:57am - neverpurified ""]
Soilwork - anything after Natural Born Chaos = :pukeface:

Decapitated - fuckin' drummer had to be an asshole and quit.......ruined the whole band
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[Aug 26,2008 10:58am - oscarct ""]
Aerosmith I think is a very good example, a few good albums in the 70's then decades of crap.
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[Aug 26,2008 10:58am - aril  ""]
haha. decades of crap pretty sums Aerosmith up. their early stuff isn't too bad.
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[Aug 26,2008 11:02am - largefreakatzero ""]
Life at Zero will be falling apart after recording is finished.
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[Aug 26,2008 11:35am - markfuckingrichards ""]
Black Sabbath. I don't give a fuck what anyone says. I cannot stand Dio with Black Sabbath. As far as i'm concerned, they were only good with Ozzy.
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[Aug 26,2008 11:37am - DestroyYouAlot ""]

markfuckingrichards said:Black Sabbath. I don't give a fuck what anyone says. I cannot stand Dio with Black Sabbath. As far as i'm concerned, they were only good with Ozzy.


You're a bad man.


Umm... Amorphis. New shit is embarrassing.
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[Aug 26,2008 11:40am - aril  ""]
well, honestly, I think it's safe to say that most extreme metal bands that've gained commercial success usually end up sucking. Maybe it's because I'm one of those guys who "always prefers listening to the band's older albums."
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[Aug 26,2008 11:42am - markfuckingrichards ""]
I am an awesome man. You lick the old testes of Dio.
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[Aug 26,2008 11:45am - MattBreen ""]

oscarct said:Aerosmith I think is a very good example, a few good albums in the 70's then decades of crap.

No way Janie's Got a Gun and Cryin' are like the best songs ever.:NEWHORNS:
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[Aug 26,2008 11:46am - DestroyYouAlot ""]

markfuckingrichards said:I am an awesome man. You lick the old testes of Dio.


What can I say, I just love old man balls in my mouth. You know how I roll.
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[Aug 26,2008 11:50am - xmikex ""]
Asystole

After they placed 5th at the Nantasket beach battle of the bands they sold out, bro.

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[Aug 26,2008 11:51am - RustyPS ""]

aril said:Trivium - this band shouldn't have existed in the first place.


Trivium were never "together" in the first place. They've always sucked.
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[Aug 26,2008 12:10pm - dreadkill ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:

You're a bad man.


Umm... Amorphis. New shit is embarrassing.


i love everything amorphis has done.
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[Aug 26,2008 12:16pm - brian_dc ""]
yeah, I like their Prog Rock-ish stuff.
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[Aug 26,2008 12:24pm - dreadkill ""]
i love their proggy stuff. some bands tend to get better later in their careers. i prefer the more rockin newer sentenced stuff to the older death metal stuff. the death metal stuff wasn't bad, but there was nothing special about it.
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[Aug 26,2008 12:34pm - Whoremastery ""]
slayer~anything after D.I.
sepultura~anything after choas ad
Fear factory~anything after demanufacture
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[Aug 26,2008 12:43pm - aril  ""]
Although I haven't heard MUCH of the newer stuff, I must say that from what I've heard, Blind Guardian's new stuff doesn't hold a candle to their old stuff.
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[Aug 26,2008 12:45pm - metal_church101 ""]

aril said:well, honestly, I think it's safe to say that most extreme metal bands that've gained commercial success usually end up sucking. Maybe it's because I'm one of those guys who "always prefers listening to the band's older albums."


Preach on brutha.
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[Aug 26,2008 12:55pm - C.DEaD  ""]

Whoremastery said:slayer~anything after D.I.
sepultura~anything after choas ad
Fear factory~anything after demanufacture



tRUTH
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[Aug 26,2008 12:59pm - timma ""]

markfuckingrichards said:Black Sabbath. I don't give a fuck what anyone says. I cannot stand Dio with Black Sabbath. As far as i'm concerned, they were only good with Ozzy.


Seconded---Dio'd Black Sabbath is the worst.
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[Aug 26,2008 1:05pm - fishcakes ""]
that is how I feel about canibbal corps, I don't really like anything after the bleeding.
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[Aug 26,2008 1:06pm - oscarct ""]
At this point for the sake of live performances I would rather see dio front sabbath
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[Aug 26,2008 1:08pm - Whoremastery ""]

fishcakes said:that is how I feel about canibbal corps, I don't really like anything after the bleeding.


i second that also....corpsegrinder ruined cc
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[Aug 26,2008 1:09pm - BlackoutRick ""]

markfuckingrichards said:Black Sabbath. I don't give a fuck what anyone says. I cannot stand Dio with Black Sabbath. As far as i'm concerned, they were only good with Ozzy.


Agreed.
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[Aug 26,2008 1:10pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

fishcakes said:that is how I feel about canibbal corps, I don't really like anything after the bleeding.


I used to think that too, but then the later stuff grew on me. Gallery of Suicide kills, IMHO.
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[Aug 26,2008 1:13pm - tylor  ""]

aril said:
In Flames - Anders should have died after Whoracle



nah i love colony and clayman
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[Aug 26,2008 1:14pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

tylor said:
aril said:
In Flames - Anders should have died after Whoracle



nah i love colony and clayman



Whereas I have to cringe at most of Whoracle. It's hit-or-miss compared to Jester Race.
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[Aug 26,2008 1:15pm - aril  ""]
I remember when clayman came out, everyone called it Gayman
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[Aug 26,2008 1:20pm - Whoremastery ""]
i really like that album...i acually dont like the early stuff..i like all of inflames albums after whoracale....there i said it.
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[Aug 26,2008 1:21pm - ouchdrummer ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:
tylor said:
aril said:
In Flames - Anders should have died after Whoracle



nah i love colony and clayman



Whereas I have to cringe at most of Whoracle. It's hit-or-miss compared to Jester Race.



Jester race is awesome, whoracle is ok.

Soilwork- Steelbath is awesome, Chainheart is ALSO awesome, EVERYTHING ELSE SUCKS... IMHO
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[Aug 26,2008 1:22pm - Mikeofdecrepitude ""]

Whoremastery said:slayer~anything after D.I.
sepultura~anything after choas ad
Fear factory~anything after demanufacture



I thought Obsolete was a good continuation of the Demanfacture sound, with better keyboard integration. Edgecrusher has a Pantera groove and some scratching in it, but they've always experimented with different sound effects and were even doing remix songs as far back as the Soul of a new Machine era. Digimortal was a complete letdown, Archetype was a solid comeback, and Transgression, according to the band, was rushed by the label and they weren't satisfied with the mix or guitar tone. Apparently they weren't given enough time to write more songs; hence two covers. That's their story anyway.
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[Aug 26,2008 1:25pm - Whoremastery ""]
i hear that..if you take soul of a new machine and obsolete..its alomost(to me anyway) two different bands.. when i first heard ff. soul of a new machine back in the day i was blown away so its just my favorite and i feel they left that sound really quick.
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[Aug 26,2008 1:25pm - aril  ""]
I have to agree with Mike - Obsolete is a good continuation of Demanufacture, with a little bit more experimentation. Not every song on it is great, but there are some okay ones. Haven't heard much stuff after Obsolete though, only because I heard some tracks off of Digimortal and I thought it sounded like Nu Metal crap.
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[Aug 26,2008 1:30pm - Mikeofdecrepitude ""]

aril said:I remember when clayman came out, everyone called it Gayman


Aside from a couple of tracks, I initially thought Clayman was a major letdown. For some reason I always felt that one day I would just "get it", and eventually it happened. In Flames used to be one of my favorite bands growing up and I still enjoy the old sound the most, but oddly enough, I now listen to Clayman the most. I think it's partially due to the fact that I know I'll never see them live again, nor will they ever return to their glory days, so I can accept Clayman for what it is. It's a great metal album with pop sensibilities.
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[Aug 26,2008 1:32pm - aril  ""]
my favorite IF is Lunar Strain and/or Subterranean by far.
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[Aug 26,2008 1:33pm - Whoremastery ""]
Deicide~anything after serpents of the light...(except scars of the crucifix i thought was a strong album)
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[Aug 26,2008 1:36pm - aril  ""]
surprised. the biggest of them all... and no ones mentioned it.

CRYPTOPSY!
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[Aug 26,2008 1:46pm - Whoremastery ""]
No shit!...we try no to think about that horror anymore..haha

entombed! after clandlstine i dont know what happened
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[Aug 26,2008 1:58pm - ZJD ""]
I think Entombed just stopped being a DM band more than they fell apart.
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[Aug 26,2008 2:00pm - dreadkill ""]
i think in flames lost it after whoracle, although i do like a few songs of colony and clayman. lunar strain, subterranean, and jester race are their best.

i liked obsolete. it was the last fear factory album i liked.

with soilwork, i actually liked figure number five. my favorite is a predator's portrait. stabbing the drama and the new one really suck.

sabbath with dio is really fucking good. i still like most of the ozzy sabbath better, but the dio years were awesome.

Aerosmith was awesome in the 70s, decent from the late 80s to early 90s (i like the get a grip album), and terrible after that. they were my favorite band when i was a kid.
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[Aug 26,2008 2:01pm - Whoremastery ""]
acually i just raided my roomates cd collection he has every entombed album..im listening to the newest one(i think) right now\'serpent saint...its not bad..kinda going back to the old sound..heavy fast riffs and deep growling vocals and thick guitars.
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[Aug 26,2008 2:01pm - dreadkill ""]

ZJD said:I think Entombed just stopped being a DM band more than they fell apart.
i agree. i like wolverine blues.
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[Aug 26,2008 2:40pm - ouchdrummer ""]

aril said:surprised. the biggest of them all... and no ones mentioned it.

CRYPTOPSY!



yeah, i was trying not to think about this.
We (boarcorpse) had a 16 year old kid come down to audition singing for us, and he was playing us the bands he likes, dont really remember all the names, but something sounded kinda like older cryptopsy and so i asked if hed heard it... he made a comment about not listening to mallcore. It hurt because i knew he was right (at least now) so i played him "And then you'll Beg" and he was blown away. He said "What happened?!" and we all died a little death.

R.I.P. Cryptopsy - I am finally ready to put you to rest old friend. Shoulda done this before what was not... BANG BANG *puts bullet in old friends head*
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[Aug 26,2008 2:54pm - monster_island ""]

markfuckingrichards said:Black Sabbath. I don't give a fuck what anyone says. I cannot stand Dio with Black Sabbath. As far as i'm concerned, they were only good with Ozzy.


AMEN !!!!!!!! Sabbath post Ozzy = FAIL
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[Aug 26,2008 3:03pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks Black Sabbath only existed with Ozzy. I'm not saying Dio sucks (even though I can't stand him, I know he's a good vocalist), but you cannot expect Black Sabbath to BE Black Sabbath with anyone but Ozzy. They just changed their sound completely; even if Ozzy was on the later stuff, it would not be Black Sabbath. If they just changed the name like they recently kind of did, I wouldn't be so pissy about this. They're my favorite band of all time, so I feel the need to be a bitch, haha.
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[Aug 26,2008 3:23pm - dr. sphincto  ""]
black sabbath after ozzy
skinny puppy-their last 2 albums suck they shouldn't have reformed
deicide-after once upon the cross
Lacuna Coil-with Comalies
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[Aug 26,2008 3:24pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
Oooh, Crisis. They had some lame attempt at a comeback album that sounded worse than nu-metal. Then again, I haven't listened to old Crisis in years, so that could have sucked too but I didn't know at the time, haha.
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[Aug 26,2008 3:27pm - porphyria  ""]
dio sabbath > ozzy sabbath

imo, the songs that were written with dio were better.

I can't stand anything that was written with ozzy's annoying-ass vocals.
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[Aug 26,2008 3:29pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
You have broken my heart Mr. Burgundy.
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[Aug 26,2008 3:29pm - ancient master  ""]
Scorpions after Roth left sucked
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[Aug 26,2008 3:31pm - aril  ""]
I love how there's so many washed-up 80s bands that are still trying to release new material. It usually sucks 90% of the time.
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[Aug 26,2008 3:36pm - porphyria  ""]

MarkFuckingRichards said:You have broken my heart Mr. Burgundy.


I'm sorry <3, just think of it as Heaven & Hell instead of Sabbath. I honestly don't care if it is a different name. I respect both era's I just prefer the later.

ozzy = vocals that just follow the riff.

dio = vocals a hell of a lot more interesting to me.
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[Aug 26,2008 3:50pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
I respect your opinions on the Sabbath matter. I just can't stand Dio and Ozzy is hilarious because in 1976 he travelled with a briefcase full of cocaine hand-cuffed to his wrist. That makes him infinitely awesome, haha.
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[Aug 26,2008 4:01pm - monster_island ""]

MarkFuckingRichards said:I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks Black Sabbath only existed with Ozzy. I'm not saying Dio sucks (even though I can't stand him, I know he's a good vocalist), but you cannot expect Black Sabbath to BE Black Sabbath with anyone but Ozzy. They just changed their sound completely; even if Ozzy was on the later stuff, it would not be Black Sabbath. If they just changed the name like they recently kind of did, I wouldn't be so pissy about this. They're my favorite band of all time, so I feel the need to be a bitch, haha.


you absolutely right markmotherfuckingrichards !! ... after the Ozzy years , as a band, Black Sabbath's music writing became unimaginitive ... not discrediting their skills because they are all incredible musicians but they should have just became Dio's band because he became the key component where as Black Sabbath with Ozzy was the complete band ... they were light years ahead of their time !!! ... they too are my all time fav and i listen to them every fucking day
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[Aug 26,2008 4:03pm - porphyria  ""]

MarkFuckingRichards said:I respect your opinions on the Sabbath matter. I just can't stand Dio and Ozzy is hilarious because in 1976 he travelled with a briefcase full of cocaine hand-cuffed to his wrist. That makes him infinitely awesome, haha.


oh yeah, well ronnie dio was born in Portsmouth, NH. haha.
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[Aug 26,2008 4:06pm - monster_island ""]

porphyria said:



ozzy = vocals that just follow the riff.

dio = vocals a hell of a lot more interesting to me.



Ozzy = was 1/4 of the band

Dio = most powerful part of the band
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[Aug 26,2008 4:13pm - porphyria  ""]

monster_island said:

Ozzy = was 1/4 of the band

Dio = most powerful part of the band



I know what you're getting at but I disagree because I'm not into most of DIO (the band itself), I much prefer him with the music of Sabbath/H&H.
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[Aug 26,2008 4:16pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
Porstmouth, NH ey? The only things I know from Portsmouth are steers and queers, and Dio does not have horns (literal horns, that is).
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[Aug 26,2008 4:23pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

aril said:surprised. the biggest of them all... and no ones mentioned it.

CRYPTOPSY!



Fucking seriously - that's the band this thread was made for.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED.
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[Aug 26,2008 4:28pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
What about bands that went downhill then redeemed themselves?

JOURNEY! Have you heard the new singer? He's a Philipino (sp?) version of Steve Perry. Fucking flawless.

Darkane, to a lesser extent. Rusted Angel was one of the sickest CDs ever; then the singer left to be in a pop or pop rock band, I can't remember. Insanity came out and I wanted to kill myself. Then Expanding Senses and Layers of Lies came out and it was all good.
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[Aug 26,2008 4:32pm - aril  ""]
A guy I work with just saw Journey last week and said the new singer absolutely sucked.
He said Heart was awesome live though.
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[Aug 26,2008 4:39pm - ThirdKnuckle ""]
Anthrax
Megadeth
Slayer
Metallica

KISS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Aug 26,2008 4:40pm - monster_island ""]

porphyria said:

I know what you're getting at but I disagree because I'm not into most of DIO (the band itself), I much prefer him with the music of Sabbath/H&H.



im glad we can agree to disagree ... i am not into Dio though i do respect the mans talent ... i just believe he is the main cog post Ozzy and it should have been Dio featuring Black Sabbath ... take away the vocalists and compare the music and H&H becomes subpar compared to earlier writings
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[Aug 26,2008 4:53pm - aril  ""]
Does anyone else think Rush fell apart? I do.
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[Aug 26,2008 5:06pm - monster_island ""]
Anthrax til Among the Living ... pre public enemy wigger inception ( gay ) ... not sure of them after that because i stopped listening then ... didnt they bring the dude from Armored
Saint in to sing ??? ... and not too long ago i saw them on Headbangers Ball i think unless scott ian plays in another band
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[Aug 26,2008 5:29pm - fishcakes ""]
yes, that dude from armored saint suck balls! Belladona for the win!
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[Aug 26,2008 5:36pm - monster_island ""]

fishcakes said:yes, that dude from armored saint suck balls! Belladona for the win!


what up fish ... havent talked to you in a minute ... got totally fucked the fuck up at accubilliards couple weeks back on jack and cokes ... cool place ... dont even remember how i got home !!! ... i will be talking to you soon
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[Aug 26,2008 8:18pm - anonymous  ""]
Red Chord
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[Aug 26,2008 10:37pm - dreadkill ""]

aril said:Does anyone else think Rush fell apart? I do.
hell no. rush is the best band ever and continues to put out great material.
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[Aug 27,2008 12:28am - fishcakes ""]

monster_island said:
fishcakes said:yes, that dude from armored saint suck balls! Belladona for the win!


what up fish ... havent talked to you in a minute ... got totally fucked the fuck up at accubilliards couple weeks back on jack and cokes ... cool place ... dont even remember how i got home !!! ... i will be talking to you soon



allright bro. hows shit been going?
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[Aug 27,2008 12:47am - archaeon ""]

aril said:Does anyone else think Rush fell apart? I do.


yeah but their newer material is listenable, just not as good.
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[Aug 27,2008 7:35am - DestroyYouAlot ""]

dreadkill said:
DestroyYouAlot said:
Umm... Amorphis. New shit is embarrassing.


i love everything amorphis has done.




brian_dc said:yeah, I like their Prog Rock-ish stuff.



dreadkill said:i love their proggy stuff.


Yeah, I dunno - where you guys hear "prog," I hear "alternative rock." Just popped in "Far From the Sun" for a re-listen to see if I missed something - this shit still sucks. Parts of it sound like a slightly less depressed Neurosis, but the rest of it just sounds like a cross between Stone Temple Pilots and (later, shitty) Alice in Chains. NOTHX, PLZ.
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[Aug 27,2008 9:05am - orgymf@work  ""]

Whoremastery said:slayer~anything after D.I.
sepultura~anything after choas ad
Fear factory~anything after demanufacture



i dunno about thise bro
i think Christ Illusion was a good album....not their best ever, but probably better than Divine Intervention I.M.O.

Roots wasn't that bad (but the tribal shit did get annoying)

and Fear Factory started to suck after their demos
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[Aug 27,2008 9:06am - orgymf@work  ""]
"i dunno about these" that was.....i am fucking awful
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[Aug 27,2008 9:08am - orgymf@work  ""]

monster_island said:Anthrax til Among the Living ... didnt they bring the dude from Armored
Saint in to sing ???



they actually had one really good album with John Bush....give the "Sound Of White Noise" another listen...good album....
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[Aug 27,2008 9:09am - orgymf@work  ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:
aril said:surprised. the biggest of them all... and no ones mentioned it.

CRYPTOPSY!



Fucking seriously - that's the band this thread was made for.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED.



agreed.
my god i am so disappointed with their "new direction"
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[Aug 27,2008 9:10am - orgymf@work  ""]

monster_island said:
porphyria said:



ozzy = vocals that just follow the riff.

dio = vocals a hell of a lot more interesting to me.



Ozzy = was 1/4 of the band

Dio = most powerful part of the band



Ozzy = the most distinctive voice in metal history

Dio = just an annoying midget
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[Aug 27,2008 9:15am - ouchdrummer ""]

anonymous said:Red Chord


I definately think they've gone downhill, in my opinion the have at least. I dont think they've fallen apart as much as changed so many members that their direction changed drastically. It happens when you change drummers every record, and guitarists almost as often. But yes i like fused better than the new ones
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[Aug 27,2008 9:15am - orgymf@work  ""]
ok....i'll stop quoting people....i have three more to address....

Deicide....yes the last albums they put out on Roadrunner were awful, but their next two releases were actually pretty fucking good

Skinny Puppy - they always sucked

Crisis - I love the old stuff, and while "Like Sheep Led To Slaughter" Wasn't their best work, it certainly wasn't bad....i actually really enjoyed the song "Blood Burden"......i could just be biased because i have a thing for Karyn (even though i'm usually not into very skinny chicks, or broads with dreads)
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[Aug 27,2008 9:28am - C.DEaD  ""]
"Skinny Puppy - they always sucked "

What? I guess it is of a acquired taste, but one of my fav. bands. But, "The Process" and their re-formation is a fucking travesty. Horrible stuff.
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[Aug 27,2008 9:37am - xanonymousx ""]
A lot of people say Metallica fell apart, I'll admit their last record St. Anger wasn't my favorite, but hey atleast they were doing something different...
If most of these bands out today were as long as Metallica do you think they'd still be writing this death core mumble jumple? probably not.
Metal is a very different genre with many different styles in one.
Metallica just changed their style over the years... Not the best change, but if you can't write the same stuff anymore why try? Hopefully this next record is much better than the last few though.
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[Aug 27,2008 9:57am - orgymf@work  ""]
c.dead - i just always hated skinny puppy.....especially the whole "retard voice through a distortion pedal" vocal style....

just my opinion, but i have heard alot of their material, and it is just a bad attempt at industrial (which is an awful style in the first place) and experimental noise.

mr. annonymous......
Metallica blows, they have for over a decade, nothing they have played since the Black Album even resembles metal.
changing your sound and direction is all well and good, but it's obviously just for money, if it was an artistic decision, i'm sure they wouldn't have made anything as gay as Load (which i thought was bush when i first heard it....i was so disappointed).

Cannibal Corpse, Slayer, Deicide, Napalm Death, Gwar....all bands who have been around for 2 decades or longer, and are still playing music that is very heavy....maybe different, maybe not as good as their old shit, but unlike Selloutica, they are still playing very very heavy music
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[Aug 27,2008 11:02am - aril  ""]
Rush is the best band ever!! Dreadkill!
One of the most talented ones in their heyday but I've gotta 100% disagree with you on best band ever!
I've always preferred King Crimson, Yes, Tull, and others to Rush only in the sense that I think Rush fails to capture emotion in a lot of their (newer) songs.
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[Aug 27,2008 11:12am - monster_island ""]

xanonymousx said:A lot of people say Metallica fell apart, I'll admit their last record St. Anger wasn't my favorite, but hey atleast they were doing something different...
If most of these bands out today were as long as Metallica do you think they'd still be writing this death core mumble jumple? probably not.
Metal is a very different genre with many different styles in one.
Metallica just changed their style over the years... Not the best change, but if you can't write the same stuff anymore why try? Hopefully this next record is much better than the last few though.



Metallica did change ... when Burton died ... And Justice still carried Burton inspired riffs and music ... i did really enjoy their release of covers in Garage days rerevisited mainly the helpless cover ... they did a good job on that ... then Black began their commercial coming out album ... i listened to it a few times ... never really sat right with me but it was ok ... and then after that album they became trendy and you can hear the lost edge from then on
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[Aug 27,2008 12:13pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]

orgymf@work said:
monster_island said:Anthrax til Among the Living ... didnt they bring the dude from Armored
Saint in to sing ???



they actually had one really good album with John Bush....give the "Sound Of White Noise" another listen...good album....



"If Only" is one of my fav Anthrax songs.
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[Aug 27,2008 12:53pm - dreadkill ""]

aril said:Rush is the best band ever!! Dreadkill!
One of the most talented ones in their heyday but I've gotta 100% disagree with you on best band ever!
I've always preferred King Crimson, Yes, Tull, and others to Rush only in the sense that I think Rush fails to capture emotion in a lot of their (newer) songs.

king crimson and tull are incredible and can almost hang with rush, but rush completely destroys yes and defecates in yes's dickhole. i like yes, but rush kills them. just my opinion. if i could only listen to 3 bands for the rest of my life, i'd choose katatonia (because they're my favorite), and rush and motorhead (because they are the two best bands i've ever heard).
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[Aug 27,2008 12:54pm - dreadkill ""]
i like john bush's voice a lot more than belladonna's, but anthrax made some great songs with joey.
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[Aug 27,2008 12:58pm - metal_church101 ""]
Anthrax had way more drive with Joey.
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[Aug 27,2008 1:00pm - corpus_colostomy ""]
the kingston trio fell apart like the southeast expressway.

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[Aug 27,2008 1:04pm - aril  ""]
dreadkill, ever check out the german band Amon Duul II ?
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[Aug 27,2008 1:06pm - dreadkill ""]
i have, excellent band
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[Aug 27,2008 1:07pm - orgymf@work  ""]

FuckIsMySignature said:
orgymf@work said:
monster_island said:Anthrax til Among the Living ... didnt they bring the dude from Armored
Saint in to sing ???



they actually had one really good album with John Bush....give the "Sound Of White Noise" another listen...good album....



"If Only" is one of my fav Anthrax songs.



great song! so is hy pro glo!
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[Aug 27,2008 1:12pm - aril  ""]
Judging from that VR thread, I'm assuming a number of people will agree that Vital Remains has somewhat feel apart as well
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[Aug 27,2008 1:15pm - orgymf@work  ""]
i wouldn't say they fell apart, so much as got lost.
the music they are playing is good, it's just getting very reptetitive.
i think they could pull it back together.
i think this thread more references bands who are beyond repair.....
like Metallica
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[Aug 27,2008 1:19pm - aril  ""]
What about Dimmu Borgir? Everyone always calls them Demon Burger because they're over the top with their image, but how about the new music? I haven't really heard much of the past 3 albums, but I actually don't mind everything up to and including Spiritual Black Dimensions.
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[Aug 27,2008 3:07pm - orgymf@work  ""]
i can't judge if dimmu fell apart, since i never really got into em
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[Aug 27,2008 4:42pm - ouchdrummer ""]

orgymf@work said:

Cannibal Corpse, Slayer, Deicide, Napalm Death, Gwar....all bands who have been around for 2 decades or longer, and are still playing music that is very heavy....maybe different, maybe not as good as their old shit, but unlike Selloutica, they are still playing very very heavy music



..Morbid angels been around for 24 years. (They got together in 84, first vinyl in 87, first full length 97-which was still 21 years ago...) Has anyone heard the new Morbid, its fucking sick as hell. And they've been doin it ALMOST as long as Metallica.
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[Aug 27,2008 4:44pm - aril  ""]
I still don't understand how Gwars been doing that stuff for THAT long. it's ridiculous
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[Aug 27,2008 4:44pm - orgymf@work  ""]
good call.....i am ashamed of myself for forgetting morbid angel in that little list
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[Aug 27,2008 4:47pm - ouchdrummer ""]

orgymf@work said:good call.....i am ashamed of myself for forgetting morbid angel in that little list



i've been on a HUGE morbid kick recently. Can't decide which record is my favorite. You?
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[Aug 27,2008 5:10pm - poop ""]
domination
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[Aug 27,2008 7:13pm - dr. sphincto  ""]
yes i did say that skinny puppy sucked after the reformation, also wumpscut hasn't been that great since they put out wreath of barbs
Velvet acid christ's last effort was lacking because he got off the drugs
industrial is hit or misss
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[Aug 27,2008 9:53pm - dreadkill ""]
mostly miss
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[Aug 27,2008 10:48pm - ancient master  ""]

aril said:I still don't understand how Gwars been doing that stuff for THAT long. it's ridiculous


probobly beacuse they change members a lot but no one can tell under those costumes?
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[Aug 27,2008 11:11pm - the_reverend ""]
THAT'S DOLOMITE BABY.
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[Aug 27,2008 11:13pm - timma ""]
MEAT SANDWICH.
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[Aug 27,2008 11:15pm - the_reverend ""]
funny gwar comment.
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[Aug 27,2008 11:38pm - SacreligionNLI  ""]
i'm 40% dolemite!
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[Aug 28,2008 11:57am - pam ""]
Anthrax, Slayer, Metallica, In Flames, Soilwork, Fear Factory, Life of Agony..

Gwar is awesome, Dio is awesome, you can all eat a bag of dicks.

Also Belladonna > Bush. Don't be stupid.
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[Aug 28,2008 12:13pm - orgymf@work  ""]

ouchdrummer said:
orgymf@work said:good call.....i am ashamed of myself for forgetting morbid angel in that little list



i've been on a HUGE morbid kick recently. Can't decide which record is my favorite. You?



Blessed are the Sick.
Brainstorm is one of the most underrated and amazing songs in metal history
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[Aug 28,2008 12:17pm - orgymf@work  ""]

pam said:Anthrax, Slayer, Metallica, In Flames, Soilwork, Fear Factory, Life of Agony..

Gwar is awesome, Dio is awesome, you can all eat a bag of dicks.

Also Belladonna > Bush. Don't be stupid.



Life of Agony????
gay
always has been
always will be.

i didn't disagree that Belladonna owns, i just said i like one J.B. era Anthrax album

Dio sucks.
and i will not eat a bag of dicks.
i won't even eat one.

completely unrelated topic.
did you ever get to check out any Takashi Miike flicks?
if so, which ones? what did you think?
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[Aug 28,2008 12:20pm - pam ""]

orgymf@work said:
pam said:Anthrax, Slayer, Metallica, In Flames, Soilwork, Fear Factory, Life of Agony..

Gwar is awesome, Dio is awesome, you can all eat a bag of dicks.

Also Belladonna > Bush. Don't be stupid.



Life of Agony????
gay
always has been
always will be.

i didn't disagree that Belladonna owns, i just said i like one J.B. era Anthrax album

Dio sucks.
and i will not eat a bag of dicks.
i won't even eat one.

completely unrelated topic.
did you ever get to check out any Takashi Miike flicks?
if so, which ones? what did you think?



Old LoA was awesome. I will fight you to the death.

I have some of his movies on my Blockbuster queue, but due to this:
[img]
I have not had time to watch the movies I have and thus have not gotten the Takashi Miike movies yet.
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[Aug 28,2008 12:38pm - Yeti ""]
Satyricon is by far the worst. they became total garbage after Rebel.
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[Aug 28,2008 12:41pm - aril  ""]
yea man, I honestly thought Satyr and Frost switched instruments on their latest release.
WTF happened?
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[Aug 28,2008 12:42pm - pam ""]

Yeti said:Satyricon is by far the worst. they became total garbage after Rebel.


Dude, Volcano was awesome.
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[Aug 28,2008 12:44pm - Yeti ""]
my roommate says the same thing, but i hate it. Mayhem also fell apart, the last albums haven't been good at all. i don't care what anyone says, Ordo Ad Chao was pretentious crap. at first it sounded promising, but then the blandness and lack of depth show through like the sun.
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[Aug 28,2008 12:46pm - aril  ""]
Volcano was awesome? what? WAHT?
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[Aug 28,2008 1:02pm - pam ""]
Volcano was awesome. But then again I don't like sounds-like-shit gr1m black metal.
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[Aug 28,2008 1:08pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Yeah, I wasn't too into it. It's like a really grim Andrew WK record.
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[Aug 28,2008 1:42pm - ouchdrummer ""]

pam said:
orgymf@work said:
pam said:Anthrax, Slayer, Metallica, In Flames, Soilwork, Fear Factory, Life of Agony..

Gwar is awesome, Dio is awesome, you can all eat a bag of dicks.

Also Belladonna > Bush. Don't be stupid.



Life of Agony????
gay
always has been
always will be.

i didn't disagree that Belladonna owns, i just said i like one J.B. era Anthrax album

Dio sucks.
and i will not eat a bag of dicks.
i won't even eat one.

completely unrelated topic.
did you ever get to check out any Takashi Miike flicks?
if so, which ones? what did you think?



Old LoA was awesome. I will fight you to the death.

I have some of his movies on my Blockbuster queue, but due to this:
[img]
I have not had time to watch the movies I have and thus have not gotten the Takashi Miike movies yet.



congratulations pam. absolutely adorable baby!!
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[Aug 28,2008 2:00pm - orgymf@work  ""]
Pam....ahem
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FUCK L.O.A.!! hahaha

you have to understand, i dislike their music, always have....but my hatred for them is increased by the fact that the asshole roommate i lived with (the one i ranted about in the shitty roommate thread) was obsessed with them to the point where he had two LOA tattoos.....one of which he blew his rent money on.

so i have a bias against them.

anyway...putting your baby before Takashi Miike?
you're either a great parent, or a horrible excuse for a japanese horror fan, hah!
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[Aug 28,2008 3:18pm - Yeti ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:Yeah, I wasn't too into it. It's like a really grim Andrew WK record.


hahaha yeah it is. Fuel For Hatred might be one of the gayest songs ever written. it was funny the first few times i heard it, but the novelty wore off really fast.
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[Aug 28,2008 3:27pm - aril  ""]
remember the Fuel for Hatred video? Dumbest thing I've ever seen.
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[Aug 28,2008 3:30pm - Yeti ""]
they went from the awesome cheesiness of the Mother North video to the gayness of that one. ugh.
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[Aug 28,2008 3:33pm - aril  ""]
I love the mother north video. always have. I always loved how they show the full moon when the bell hits.
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[Aug 28,2008 3:35pm - Yeti ""]
a few Halloweens ago myself, FuckIsMySignature and this other dude did a severely drunken video of us lipsynching and air guitaring to Mother North. it actually came out pretty cool haha.
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[Aug 28,2008 3:37pm - orgymf@work  ""]
shitty black metal = amazingly funny videos.

anyone ever see the video for "willowthewisp" by ancient?
i laughed so much watching that, i had to keep rewinding because i was missing shit, in the end it took me about twenty minutes to finish the video......
plus their awful lyrics....hours of entertainment, i could read them over and over....comedic genius
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[Aug 29,2008 10:42am - Yeti ""]
i wouldn't say "shitty black metal", black metal in general. like the video for "Call of the Wintermoon". that song is so good, but the video is so bad. well, good bad. hahahahaha Ancient, they were one of the first bands i ever listened to back when i was like 15, i had "Mad Grandiose Bloodfiends". i enjoyed it until i discovered the rest of black metal. what a piece of shit that album is.
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[Aug 29,2008 10:49am - orgymf@work  ""]
shamefully, i used to own that album as well....
i don't really dig any black metal these days.
i like Marduk, and i get a laugh out of Vondour
that's about it
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[Aug 29,2008 10:52am - aril  ""]
there's some pretty good 'newer' black metal bands coming out of France, Italy, Greece and Germany right now.
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[Aug 29,2008 11:01am - Mikeofdecrepitude ""]

Yeti said:i wouldn't say "shitty black metal", black metal in general. like the video for "Call of the Wintermoon". that song is so good, but the video is so bad. well, good bad. hahahahaha Ancient, they were one of the first bands i ever listened to back when i was like 15, i had "Mad Grandiose Bloodfiends". i enjoyed it until i discovered the rest of black metal. what a piece of shit that album is.


K-Mart witches costume with Bathory shirt ist Krieg. That's one the best joke video's ever.

Immortal video's are so epic. Who else scales down the side of a mountain while slinging a guitar?

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