LOST s06E17/S06E18: "The End" (and the recap)[views:15635][posts:136]______________________________________ [May 23,2010 6:57pm - the_reverend ""] starting in 3 minutes. this thread is all spoilers. |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 6:58pm - the_reverend ""] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_%28Lost%29 |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 7:03pm - the_reverend ""] http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_End |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 7:35pm - the_reverend ""] cleaning while listening to the recap/ |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 7:37pm - the_reverend ""] bennyhillifier |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:00pm - the_reverend ""] ON NOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWW |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:02pm - the_reverend ""] PLEASE JUST SHOW ME JACK'S KID'S MOM. |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:02pm - the_reverend ""] funny if jack kills MIB/Locke in 2007 and saves locke in 2004. |
| ________________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:11pm - AndrewBastard ""] the_reverend said:PLEASE JUST SHOW ME JACK'S KID'S MOM. http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Sarah |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:18pm - the_reverend ""] vinceint, rose, and bernard. |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:19pm - the_reverend ""] adam sandler was wearing a UNH shirt. |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:24pm - the_reverend ""] yeah! juliet! |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:25pm - the_reverend ""] sun/juliet just like before |
| ________________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:37pm - DomesticTerror ""] FRANK! |
| ________________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:38pm - AndrewBastard ""] I think we're going to actually witness Locke turning into the smoke soon |
| ________________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:39pm - AndrewBastard ""] HOLY SHIT! juliette is his mom! |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:40pm - the_reverend ""] yeah, that was obvious. |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:41pm - the_reverend ""] and swayer is going to come out through juliet. |
| ______________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:49pm - the_reverend ""] shannon? FML... boone is probably there too. |
| ________________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:54pm - AndrewBastard ""] remember at the beginning of this season when the island was shown under water and we saw the shark with the Darhma logo on its tail? |
| ________________________________________ [May 23,2010 9:55pm - AndrewBastard ""] how did Boone know Hurley and know what was going on? |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:03pm - the_reverend ""] IDK how boone came to light. I knew that charlie was going to come back with claire... and kate with Aaron. Did desmond just remove an actual cork? |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:05pm - AndrewBastard ""] yeah, thats what I gathered...and now Locke isnt superman? |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:15pm - the_reverend ""] yep, looks like it. |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:16pm - the_reverend ""] Jack should have gone down there to desmond. |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:18pm - the_reverend ""] WTF.. jack doesn't know how to fight... |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:18pm - AndrewBastard ""] epic battle FTW |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:27pm - the_reverend ""] who is going to unlock jack... probably his dad. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:28pm - AndrewBastard ""] Christian Shepard? |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:35pm - the_reverend ""] yeah, it's all about love. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:35pm - AndrewBastard ""] nothing is gonna get jack back cause he's now Jacob and needs to stay |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:47pm - the_reverend ""] I'm so happy it's 30 minutes longer than I thought it was. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:53pm - AndrewBastard ""] it goes till 10:30? |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 10:59pm - the_reverend ""] 11:30 |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:01pm - AndrewBastard ""] thats what i meant |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:01pm - the_reverend ""] I thought that the C4 would blow them all up. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:09pm - AndrewBastard ""] they never installed it did they? |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:09pm - the_reverend ""] widmoore said he did. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:09pm - AndrewBastard ""] oh wait, whidmore said he had it rigged...but then I remember someone else unrigging it later.. |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:09pm - the_reverend ""] also, everyone in the FST is acting like people who are dead and ghosts act. |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:10pm - the_reverend ""] BTW: I want to watch jimmy kimmel to see the alternate endings. |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:13pm - the_reverend ""] they are all going to christian's funeral? |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:15pm - the_reverend ""] ben becomes richard. |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:18pm - the_reverend ""] jack's spine is sticking out something fierce. |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:20pm - the_reverend ""] I need to re-watch this entire series again. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:21pm - AndrewBastard ""] me too...probably pick up on so much shit i missed |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:21pm - the_reverend ""] this one should have been called what they died for. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:25pm - AndrewBastard ""] how did bernard and rose ... ? |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:26pm - the_reverend ""] extended hugging sequence fuck you. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:28pm - AndrewBastard ""] no michael and walt? no lover for Locke? wheres peg bundy? |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:31pm - AndrewBastard ""] :( its over...who was that in the light? I looked away for one second... |
| ________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:34pm - BlownUpJamPad ""] So they all died in the plane crash and all their souls were stuck in a purgatory until they could find the light at the end of the tunnel |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:35pm - the_reverend ""] I think the lover for locke was him walking. idk. True, there was no michael or walt. and where the hell were the most important charaacters, paulo and nikki? |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:36pm - the_reverend ""] the FST was a purgatory until they all came together. IDK what the white light was... heaven? |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:37pm - AndrewBastard ""] hahah and your boy mr eko |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:39pm - AndrewBastard ""] fucking lostpedia forum wont open for me...i always get answers on that site.. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:39pm - DomesticTerror ""] yeah, that's what i got out of it. the FST was purgatory where they all met up after they all died in the regular timeline. they being the Losties from the front fuselage. minus michael, walt, and the dog for some reason. |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:40pm - the_reverend ""] all dogs go to heaven. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:40pm - DomesticTerror ""] christian said they all fashioned it for themselves, so maybe michael and walt weren't part of that bond. and dogs don't go to heaven. |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:40pm - the_reverend ""] so no purgatory for them. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:40pm - DomesticTerror ""] the_reverend said:all dogs go to heaven. dammit rev |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:41pm - the_reverend ""] I also turned my tv off when the show ended. I want to turn it back on for kimmel to see the lost people and alternate endings. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:41pm - DomesticTerror ""] not that purgatory. just like the tail passengers. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:42pm - AndrewBastard ""] so who was richard? what happened to lupedis and the asian ghost guy (his name is escaping me) |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:43pm - the_reverend ""] they got off the island and lived their lives until they died and then came back together with everyone from the island in FST. |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:43pm - the_reverend ""] richard isn't part of the group. neither was milo. |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:45pm - the_reverend ""] they all had their own times that were the most important to their lives so at some point, milo and whomever that was met up. Richard probably met up with his lady friend. I bet hurley was the last to die since he was jacob. |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:47pm - DomesticTerror ""] bingo. oh, and i'm still sticking with my djinn theory. |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:49pm - the_reverend ""] this is for all my homeboys: http://videos.nymag.com/video/The-Men-of-L...20Shirtless%20Men%20of%20%27Lost%27 also, there are still a million different questions... must be like my co-worker said "I don't think they have to answer all the questions" |
| _________________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:51pm - AndrewBastard ""] eye closeup montage FTW |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:52pm - the_reverend ""] hah: http://videos.nymag.com/video/The-Men-of-L...%27Lost%27%20Meets%20%27Baywatch%27 |
| _______________________________________ [May 23,2010 11:53pm - the_reverend ""] it's amazing after 6 seasons that the cast still likes each other. |
| __________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:06am - Doomkid ""] BIGGEST COP-OUT FINALE EVER |
| _________________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:14am - AndrewBastard ""] this jimmy kimmel aloha to lost shit is great already |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:15am - the_reverend ""] yes it is. |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:17am - the_reverend ""] seeing john locke walk normally is weird. they obviously have an entire life of going to sci-fi conventions. |
| _______________________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:18am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Did they say goodbye to Hawkeye in this one? |
| __________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:20am - Doomkid ""] What the fuck happened to Whitmore? |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:22am - the_reverend ""] I'm enough of a pussy to say that I teared up like 4 times during this episode. |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:22am - the_reverend ""] Doomkid said:What the fuck happened to Whitmore?you missed Widmore being shot so he couldn't save his daughter? |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:23am - the_reverend ""] needs more drive shaft. |
| __________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:24am - Doomkid ""] Oh right, dumb. |
| _________________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:25am - AndrewBastard ""] the_reverend said: Doomkid said:What the fuck happened to Whitmore?you missed Widmore being shot so he couldn't save his daughter? yeah he got shot right after Locke sliced Tina Feys throat |
| _______________________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:31am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Did Ross finally get together with Rachel? Did those onion rings finally get to the table, and did Meadow finally park her car? |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:40am - the_reverend ""] "michael, first off, thank you for killing anna lucia lost" and then he said that michael's not in the church cause he's stuck on the island. |
| __________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:41am - Doomkid ""] I am eally annoyed that there was so much ancient shit on the island that was never even approached in the canon. Who built these things? When? Does that mean that humans created the island? The temple The statue The wheel The heart of the island |
| __________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:42am - Doomkid ""] I will admit that during almost every 'rememory' flash I got a little misty. Especially Sun and Jin's. |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:44am - the_reverend ""] sun and jin's english acting in the death scene sucked. their korean part ruled. |
| _________________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:44am - AndrewBastard ""] yeah, I welled up a few times... that "lost tender moments" montage was great |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:45am - the_reverend ""] I totally forgot about michael getting hit by that car. brutal. |
| _________________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:45am - AndrewBastard ""] yeah, jin cant act in english, which is odd cause he doesnt even have an accent in real life; he speaks perfect english. |
| _________________________________________ [May 24,2010 12:52am - AndrewBastard ""] sopranos ending FTW |
| _________________________________ [May 24,2010 1:04am - Doomkid ""] Haha, thankfully with the Sopranos the last season came out way after I had moved on from the show so I never watched any of it. |
| _______________________________________________ [May 24,2010 1:27am - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] so, it was Maggie that shot Mr. Burns? SWEET |
| ______________________________________________ [May 24,2010 1:47am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Ralph sent Alice to the moon? AMAZING |
| ___________________________________ [May 24,2010 9:02am - Czarnobog ""] Doomkid said:BIGGEST COP-OUT FINALE EVER cop-out and rip-off. were they banking on no one ever seeing jacob's ladder before? |
| ___________________________________ [May 24,2010 9:23am - DreadKill ""] IllinoisEnemaBradness said:so, it was Maggie that shot Mr. Burns? SWEEThahahahaha, awesome |
| ______________________________________ [May 24,2010 9:30am - the_reverend ""] DreadKill said: IllinoisEnemaBradness said:so, it was Maggie that shot Mr. Burns? SWEEThahahahaha, awesomeno, it was santa's little helper. |
| _________________________________ [May 24,2010 2:10pm - RustyPS ""] Doomkid said:I am eally annoyed that there was so much ancient shit on the island that was never even approached in the canon. Who built these things? When? Does that mean that humans created the island? The wheel the MIB built the wheel to leave the island...that was in the episode two weeks ago |
| ______________________________________ [May 24,2010 2:10pm - the_reverend ""] DW = Donkey Wheel. |
| _________________________________ [May 24,2010 2:55pm - Doomkid ""] RustyPS said: Doomkid said: the MIB built the wheel to leave the island...that was in the episode two weeks ago Yeah but they never explained anything about how he was planning on doing that initially. And its not like the wheel was destroyed so why didn't he use it later like Ben did? And WHO BUILT THE TEMPLE/STATUE/LOST SEXY-TIME HOT TUB OF LIGHT? |
| _______________________________________ [May 24,2010 3:06pm - aaron_michael ""] and then, in the end, BRUCE WILLIS IS A FUCKING GHOST AANYAAAAHAAAAAAAAA SHIT DAWG! |
| _________________________________ [May 24,2010 3:07pm - RustyPS ""] Doomkid said: RustyPS said: Doomkid said: the MIB built the wheel to leave the island...that was in the episode two weeks ago Yeah but they never explained anything about how he was planning on doing that initially. And its not like the wheel was destroyed so why didn't he use it later like Ben did? he still had to kill Jack to get off the island...that was one of the loopholes they had |
| ______________________________________ [May 24,2010 3:11pm - the_reverend ""] the MIB couldnt use the DW after becoming the smoke monster and the dharma initiative probably built the DW. or more likely some other group (like the guys MIB lead when they started). there is a scene where MIB as i believe christian sheperd gets locke or someone to turn the dw. |
| _________________________________ [May 24,2010 3:13pm - Doomkid ""] Yeah but thats after Ben pushes the wheel. And why can't the MiB push the wheel? Is that another one of these vague and amorphous 'rules' made up by Eve/Jacob? |
| _________________________________ [May 24,2010 3:29pm - RustyPS ""] he can't leave the island until the protector/candidates were dead, and he couldn't kill them himself until Desmond took that rock out of the hole....so yes, it was those 'rules' |
| _______________________________________________ [May 25,2010 1:45pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] the_reverend said: DreadKill said: IllinoisEnemaBradness said:so, it was Maggie that shot Mr. Burns? SWEEThahahahaha, awesomeno, it was santa's little helper. Santos L Halper |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:18am - arktouros ""] OKAY. I'm 2 1/2 years late to the party. This show is quite a fucking experience!! Deserved all the praise it got, tackled countless themes so well. Michael Emerson and Terry O'Quinn became a couple of my favorite actors. BlownUpJamPad said:So they all died in the plane crash and all their souls were stuck in a purgatory until they could find the light at the end of the tunnel False. Everyone was alive for a period of time. A couple months after the crash, Ben "moves the island", causing a series of time shifts to occur. During these time shifts, the Oceanic Six lives out their lives back at home, unaware that Sawyer, Julette, etc are skipping through time and get stuck in 1977. Those that hadn't died earlier on the island are still alive at this point, even if some are doing quantum leaps. Juliette triggers the nuke at the bottom of the hole at Dharma swan station (in 1977), that group gets transported back to 2007, the original timeline where Oceanic 815 crashed three years earlier. They find the hatch imploded. We can safely assume Dharma still built the Swan station after the "incident" alluded to the orientation videos. Notice Dr. Chang's prosthetic hand, and the Dharma Class of 1977 photo that Ben shows to Locke. The nuke explosion + EM activity caused what appeared to be a "shift" in the timeline since that point, an alternate timeline where the island is at the bottom of the ocean, there is no Swan station, Desmond never forgets to push that button in 2004 and Oceanic 815 never crashes. This isn't revealed to be "purgatory" until the final episode, which is simply a world they created in their afterlife, with certain events triggering their subconsciousness to realize that they were dead and it was time to go meet Mr. Shepard. Basically, Faraday's postulate about a linear timeline appears to be true, where they were unable to change the events of the past no matter how hard they tried. The events in 1977 "self-corrected" themselves as he explains. The Swan was still built, the "incident" still happened, Dharma still existed up to a certain point. It is still the "singular" timeline even if there were some events that didn't belong. Faraday was only half-right about the nuke fixing everything. The group was indeed transported back to their present time (give or take 3 years) however it did not cause the anomalies on the island to disappear, Desmond still forgot to press the button, and the plane still did crash. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:19am - arilliusbm ""] WHY I AM HALFWAY THRU SEASON THREE FUCK U |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:27am - arktouros ""] The biggest indicator that they were still alive way after the crash was the scene where Jack is taking his last breath next to Vincent, and sees Frank's plane flying above. Fucking fantasic scene and a great ending. We can assume Frank, Miles, Sawyer, Kate, and Claire died at some point after the crash for whatever reason. Hurley and Ben appeared to live quite a while after Jack replaces the cork and dies on the island, with Hurley telling Ben "you were a great number 2." I don't think it was a cop-out ending. They made the last episode about accepting death, I think it would have fell short with any other theme. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:27am - arktouros ""] arilliusbm said:WHY I AM HALFWAY THRU SEASON THREE FUCK U dude you click on this thread are you serious??? |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:32am - arilliusbm ""] I highly doubt everyone in this thread watched every episode. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:35am - AndrewBastard ""] are you kidding me? I watched every single episode IN ORDER twice now. the first time was while it was still on the air (started after season 2 so I had to catch up) and the second time was only like 2 months ago. Probably will again someday. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:35am - RustyPS ""] I did When I was unemployed, the first 5 seasons were on Netflix instant, so I watched it all before the last season started. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:39am - arilliusbm ""] Only Ben is real. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:44am - arilliusbm ""] PLANE FULL OF MODELS AND ONE FAT GUY CRASHES ON MYSTERIOUS ISLAND. MORE AT 11 |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:48am - AndrewBastard ""] ITT: ARIL THINKS ALL THE DUDES ON LOST ARE HOT |
| __________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:49am - RustyPS ""] Evangeline Lilly = HOTTEST MIDGET EVAR |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 11:49am - arktouros ""] haha, keep in mind they were all hand-picked to be on that plane by a certain "character" AND SERIOUSLY GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 12:01pm - arktouros ""] Doomkid said: And WHO BUILT THE TEMPLE/STATUE/LOST SEXY-TIME HOT TUB OF LIGHT? Egyptians landed on the island at one point and built the statue of Tawaret (protection, birth, fertility), the other temples, and the somehow managed to harness the power of the well. It can be assumed that a few other discrete groups came both before and after the ancient Roman shipwreck that brought the mother of both Jacob and MiB. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 12:20pm - arktouros ""] the_reverend said:ben becomes richard. i was going to say false, but i see what you meant by that. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 12:24pm - arilliusbm ""] Lies. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 12:24pm - arilliusbm ""] ALL LIES |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 12:26pm - arktouros ""] Nah man, Jack said this was really happening. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 3:56pm - arktouros ""] also i'm SO GLAD THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE ANCIENT ALIENS ROUTE. PREPARE TO BE DISAPPOINTED THERE'S NO ALIENS> |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 4:00pm - arilliusbm ""] ALIENS HAVE NO PLACE IN THIS SHOW ONLY ALTERNATE REALITIES |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 4:04pm - arktouros ""] SEE YOU IN ANOTHER LIFE, BROTHER |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 4:28pm - the_reverend ""] arktouros said:The biggest indicator that they were still alive way after the crash was the scene where Jack is taking his last breath next to Vincent, and sees Frank's plane flying above. Fucking fantasic scene and a great ending. We can assume Frank, Miles, Sawyer, Kate, and Claire died at some point after the crash for whatever reason. Hurley and Ben appeared to live quite a while after Jack replaces the cork and dies on the island, with Hurley telling Ben "you were a great number 2." I don't think it was a cop-out ending. They made the last episode about accepting death, I think it would have fell short with any other theme. this. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2012 4:30pm - the_reverend ""] BTW: I started watching it again the other day. I also watched ever episode in around. |
| ____________________________________________ [Apr 6,2012 11:03am - arillius_the_white ""] Just finished. Teared up. I'mma pussy. Great show. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 6,2012 11:04am - the_reverend ""] truth. my face was leaking. |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 6,2012 11:21am - AndrewBastard ""] i welled up as I stated above^^ I re-watched the entire season up to season 5 a few months ago...I need to re-watch season 6. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 10,2013 1:09pm - the_reverend ""] I miss the times that andrew and I used to have. |
| ________________________________ [Apr 11,2013 1:13am - Spence ""] Excellent show and awesome thread. Even though I think the last three seasons definitely took turns I disagreed with and made choices that I didn't like(especially the last season), it still remained an awesome experience. Those first three seasons and most of the characters/actors were excellent, as was the soundtrack and a lot of the initial mysteries. Also, I too have watched every episode and in order. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 11,2013 8:48am - the_reverend ""] I can't take that emotional roller coaster now. I need the office to end first and then I will go about that. |
| ____________________________________________ [Apr 11,2013 9:07am - AndrewBastard NLI ""] When I did a rewatch I think I made it thru season 4...the other 2 seasons aren't as good and were still too fresh in my head to need a rewatch |
| _________________________________ [Apr 11,2013 10:26am - Spence ""] The last season and a half should just be renamed to "How the Iraqi fucked everything up for everyone." |