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How do we make Boston metal again?

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[Jan 18,2007 4:36pm - EriktheViking ""]
This shouldn't be rocket science. Boston mentality is a Metal mentality.

But not enough Metal music to go around. What gives?

Besides the obvious solutions (like rounding up the Emo kids and executing them) what do you think can be done about getting more bands into more venues? There are enough places to play, especially in what used to be a Metal hotbed (so I'm told), Allston.

What's the problem? Not enough believers? Suspicious venue owners?
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[Jan 18,2007 4:38pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
move Boston to Worcester.
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[Jan 18,2007 4:40pm - atreu77 ""]
I think the issue is a decent venue. There are some good places to play in Boston, but nothing large enough to hold a "fest", or one willing to take the chance on holding one.
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[Jan 18,2007 4:41pm - deadlikedave ""]
i think there are more than enough good metal bands in boston right now...the only thing i dont like is not enough all ages/18+ venues around.
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[Jan 18,2007 4:42pm - Archaeon ""]
21+ shows, poor promotion, and current shitty youth music movements
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[Jan 18,2007 4:43pm - atreu77 ""]
all ages shows are essential! why? they are impressionable little fucks who will use mom and dads money to buy tickets to shows, merch, cd's, ect. be the first to brainwash them before the radio and mtv/vh1 do
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[Jan 18,2007 4:45pm - dreadkill ""]
there are all kinds of good metal bands around here. i think we have a better "scene" in MA than in most parts of the world. i can usually find 1 or 2 good local shows to go to every week.
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[Jan 18,2007 4:46pm - EriktheViking ""]
Your ideas are interesting to me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, Atreu77.

Well, I thought the scene was decent too, until O'Briens decided to close for a while and that ripped a huge chunk out of it. I know it's coming back, but I wish I didn't have to rely on it and maybe 1 or 2 places in Quincy (which is hard to get to for me).
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[Jan 18,2007 4:47pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
people are stupid
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[Jan 18,2007 4:47pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
metal is stupid
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[Jan 18,2007 4:47pm - atreu77 ""]
thank you, i think?
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[Jan 18,2007 4:49pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
It's hard to make Boston metal when Godsmack and Diecast are big Boston bands.
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[Jan 18,2007 4:53pm - Kevord ""]
There is a bunch of shows at the skybar and Deedee's coming up. There is plenty of local metal in the Boston area.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:12pm - brad nli  ""]
fuck metal
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[Jan 18,2007 5:28pm - aeser ""]
am i the only one that notices plenty of fucking metal bands and metal shows going on in boston? you ever clicked on the events page on this very site?
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[Jan 18,2007 5:33pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Boston is a very metal city indeed. It just seems the bands that make it big out of Boston make it look bad.

Diecast? Godsmack? Bury Your Dead? Killswitch Engage?

Case closed.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:34pm - dreadkill ""]
who gives a shit? just go to metal shows. there are enough in the area.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:35pm - Kevord ""]
dreadkill said:who gives a shit? just go to metal shows. there are enough in the area.


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[Jan 18,2007 5:39pm - Niccolai ""]
Not enough music isn't Boston's problem.

If you want to help the boston metal scene, stop joining and starting bands.


I think one of the biggest problems here is that there are more bands then there are fans. How is a show supposed to have a good turnout if there are 6 other local shows on the same night?

If there were a few less bands, there would be more kids going to shows instead of playing them, and the bands that were around might enjoy more success.


Problem is though, no one is willing to just not be in bands (I don't blame them).


Just a theory.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:40pm - dreadkill ""]
Niccolai said:Not enough music isn't Boston's problem.

If you want to help the boston metal scene, stop joining and starting bands.


I think one of the biggest problems here is that there are more bands then there are fans. How is a show supposed to have a good turnout if there are 6 other local shows on the same night?

If there were a few less bands, there would be more kids going to shows instead of playing them, and the bands that were around might enjoy more success.


Problem is though, no one is willing to just not be in bands (I don't blame them).


Just a theory.



i agree with you

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[Jan 18,2007 5:42pm - Kevord ""]
That's why I'm not in a band and you thought it was just my shitty lack of talent.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:48pm - anonymous  ""]
dreadkill said:Niccolai said:Not enough music isn't Boston's problem.

If you want to help the boston metal scene, stop joining and starting bands.


I think one of the biggest problems here is that there are more bands then there are fans. How is a show supposed to have a good turnout if there are 6 other local shows on the same night?

If there were a few less bands, there would be more kids going to shows instead of playing them, and the bands that were around might enjoy more success.


Problem is though, no one is willing to just not be in bands (I don't blame them).


Just a theory.



i agree with you




ya i do agree on that. 1 not enough quality fanzines or website or stuff like that. this is the only metal web site i really go to on the regular. 2 it sucks having to hear like 5 shitty bands to listen to one good band.3 i dont think any of this is ever gonna change
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[Jan 18,2007 5:48pm - babyshaker nli  ""]
^^ me
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[Jan 18,2007 5:50pm - BornSoVile ""]
Once O'Briens opens up again everything will be cool. I don't understand why more than half the people in this thread bitch about the metal scene when they've done nothing to be apart of it and fail to support it on a regular basis. Go to shows, buy merch, and get to know your fellow headbangers, it's as simple as that.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE SCENE THEN LEAVE.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:51pm - Niccolai ""]
Also, I think the LAST thing the boston metal scene needs is a good venue in the 'shows all the time' sense.

You might think that, but that's what hardcore though before Romans.

Romans is a cool venue with shows every friday, but the thing is, since there are shows in brockton EVERY friday, whenever local bands play there it's hard to turnout more than 70 people. The reason is because everyone in that scene has been to brockton so many times and seen the bands that play there so many times that it slowly looses it's appeal.

Boston needs a venue that has a show about twice a month, and books a good out of state headliner. The venue would need to be very consistant with schedualing, all ages, and would need good promotion. Venues leave promotion up to the bands to much. That would mean people wouldn't lose interested in going to the venue like if it had shows multiple times a week, there would be better turnouts, the bands would get paid well, and it would be over all more unifying.



Bands also need to play fewer shows. Alot of bands are like "we want to play every weakend, as many shows as possible, ect". It's very important for bands to schedual their shows in balance. If you play 7 nights a week every week, who the hell is going to come out and see if you if they already have 90000 times?

Under those conditions, Massachusetts bands would flourish instead of struggling to keep there head above water with 9 million other bands every weakend.


Again. Just a theory.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:55pm - Revocation ""]
more basement shows and bigger clubs that are willing to give metal a chance. and I hole heartedly agree with Niccolai. Everyone and their mother has a fuckin band these days and the vast majority of them suck. No one comes out to shows cause people are like "of you've got a band thats cool but you should check out my band "Tear Stained Wrists" we got tons of friends on myspace and we have sic breakdowns we are playing some hall in eastbum fuck this friday"
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[Jan 18,2007 5:56pm - anonymous  ""]
god. 70 people would be awesome at a show.

that's how fucking sad i am as a musician.

-hooker
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[Jan 18,2007 5:57pm - RichHorror ""]
haha

I like people saying what needs to be done to make the 'scene' stronger that don't go to any shows that they or their friends/boyfriends/husbands/etc. aren't playing. Everyone should be killed.

You want the scene to improve? Go to shows. Support local bands. Support your scene. It isn't fucking rocket science.

Get killed.
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[Jan 18,2007 5:57pm - Niccolai ""]
Also, Fests every once in a while would be a massive help. Chariot of fire fest, bostons dead, bitter end fest, ect.

Nothing better and more unifying for metal than hundreds of kids in one room to see a handful of bands play.

a much better alternative to 30 bands playing 6 different venues on the same night with a 50 person turnout in each one.
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[Jan 18,2007 6:00pm - Niccolai ""]
RichHorror said:haha

I like people saying what needs to be done to make the 'scene' stronger that don't go to any shows that they or their friends/boyfriends/husbands/etc. aren't playing. Everyone should be killed.



Not having a car, not being 21, not having a job, and being 30 miles away from boston prevents me from seeing as many shows as I would like, but that doesn't mean I haven't booked and played enough shows to realize what would increase turnout...
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[Jan 18,2007 6:02pm - RichHorror ""]
I never hear you bitching about the scene, because you are actually a part of it.

Most geniuses who spout what needs to be done to fix everything are lameass motherfuckers that listen to some generic mediocre radio bullshit and go to like five shows a year.
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[Jan 18,2007 6:03pm - atreu77 ""]
I support RichHorror for president
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[Jan 18,2007 6:04pm - BornSoVile ""]
more than half you muthafuckas never even snuck into a choppin' block show, you should all be killed, POSERS!
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[Jan 18,2007 6:07pm - RichHorror ""]
Everyone under 21, go to shows that are all ages or 18+. Support the bands that play those shows.

People 21 and over, go to all the shows that pique your interest. Support all the bands.

Promoters, actually promote your own shows. Have a brain in your fucking head and put together a good bill. Don't be a lazy jew-y faggot and make bands sell tickets so you they can play to nobody just so you can pay your headliner's guarantee without having to get off your ass.

Bands, don't be fucking retarded and sell tickets or do pay-to-play gigs. Go to shows. Network with other bands. Get your name out there. Don't shit talk other bands like a bunch of fucking women. Actually flyer for the shows you play.

Again. It's not hard. Just get off your ass and do something.
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[Jan 18,2007 6:08pm - RichHorror ""]
BornSoVile said:more than half you muthafuckas never even snuck into a choppin' block show, you should all be killed, POSERS!


This man knows.
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[Jan 18,2007 6:09pm - Niccolai ""]
BornSoVile said:more than half you muthafuckas never even snuck into a choppin' block show, you should all be killed, POSERS!


You know what happens to kids who sneak into the chopping block?



.. Let me just say that's why it's called the chopping block. :spineyes:
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[Jan 18,2007 6:10pm - RichHorror ""]
That's when you listen from outside with Dissector and Cara.
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[Jan 18,2007 6:10pm - BornSoVile ""]
come on niccolai, you never met the door guys there, they woulda let you in!
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[Jan 18,2007 6:15pm - Niccolai ""]
I missed out on sooo many good shows there. I wish I were old enough to choose not to legally drink.
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[Jan 18,2007 6:34pm - shamash ""]
"Don't worry, Boston isn't a big college town" - Spinal Tap
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[Jan 18,2007 6:35pm - Napoleon_Blownapart ""]
EriktheViking said:

What's the problem? Not enough believers? Suspicious venue owners?



We need the Mission (gay)Bar to close and the Choppin' Block to come back. That's a step in the right direction.

edit: Didn't see this has already been brought up. MY B YO.
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[Jan 18,2007 6:36pm - RichHorror ""]
I walked in that place to see if they had any info on the owner of the Block. That place is a menace and needs to be demolished.
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[Jan 18,2007 6:38pm - Napoleon_Blownapart ""]
That coked-up little irish sprite wouldnt even serve me two beers at the same time. BITCH you dont know me! The Block would never deny me that...
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[Jan 18,2007 6:39pm - RichHorror ""]
I'd like to see the metrosexual jock homo doorguy raped and killed.
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[Jan 18,2007 7:07pm - Lamp ""]
ConquerTheBaphomet said:Boston is a very metal city indeed. It just seems the bands that make it big out of Boston make it look bad.

Diecast? Godsmack? Bury Your Dead? Killswitch Engage?

Case closed.



Every city has big name bands that suck ass and misrepresnt their respective scenes. You think Zox represents the real underground Providence scene at all?

With that said...

FUCK BARS FUCK BARS FUCK BARS FUCK BARS FUCK BARS
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[Jan 18,2007 7:09pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
Niccolai said:I think one of the biggest problems here is that there are more bands then there are fans.


I was going to say the same thing but you already said it.

Also, I think the huge number of bands makes things competitive. Whether anybody wants to admit it or not, everybody's so fucking hellbent on doing shit for their own bands that they never help anybody out. The scene now is just a bunch of bands working alone and pushing everybody else out of the way to try to get ahead. Of course there are exceptions, though.
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[Jan 18,2007 7:09pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
Additionally....

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[Jan 18,2007 7:12pm - dreadkill ""]
ha
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[Jan 18,2007 7:13pm - swamplorddvm ""]
Boston is realy not very "metal". But it seems more "metal" than it was afew years ago.
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[Jan 18,2007 7:16pm - RichHorror ""]
This goes back to what Niccolai was saying about Brockton... how much more metal do you need Boston to be? Go look at the events page on this site. Basically every week, there's metal shows. Do you want them every night? That's fucking retarded, if so. Oversaturation is death.

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