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An open letter to VITAL REMAINS from an 18 year fan...

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[Jun 7,2008 4:03pm - SacreligionNLI  ""]

jesus%20the%20antichrist said:Fags..lol all you bitter, jealous ballbusting losers. What kind of loser is going to go to other message boards just to bust Vital's balls? I bet you feel stupid? Oh, wait a minute you are always stupid so maybe thats just a natural feeling for you.


fail x2
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[Jun 7,2008 4:09pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
Bust their balls?

We want them to shape up or fuck off and die. Who needs another band (local or not) ripping people off?
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[Jun 7,2008 4:10pm - SacreligionNLI  ""]
the band doing the ripping off themselves need...themselves...for the ripping off
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[Jun 7,2008 4:20pm - jesus the antichrist  ""]
It sounds like the only one that is bitter about being ripped off is you Niagara Fails. So just don't come to the show. I would gladly pay 30$ for a vital shirt because there is a demand here. They only charge 20$ per shirt though. By the way there is a Vital show this sunday in Providence and it's only 10$
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[Jun 7,2008 4:25pm - dreadkill ""]
stop being mad at vital remains and start getting MAD AT GOD!!!!!!!
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[Jun 7,2008 4:37pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
If I could rent a bus and pick up all the people who got burned (paid for a show and didn't get it), I would round them up and bring them to a VR show here and let them all be lynched for being ripoffs.
>:]
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[Aug 21,2008 12:30am - LET US PRAY  ""]
Vital Remains should've disbanded in 2001. Tony is a rock star prick. The last two were weak compared to their old albums. If Tony doesen't own the name. I say Paul Flynn takes back the name and gets Joe Lewis, Rick Corbett, and Jeff Gruslin back in the band and kicks Tony out. Suzuki can stay though.
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[Aug 21,2008 1:04am - goatcatalyst ""]
... this old lulmine?
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[Aug 21,2008 3:06am - Hell Awaits  ""]
F.O.A.D.
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[Aug 21,2008 6:59am - BenFo ""]
I had to put on my lollerskates to get through this thread.

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[Aug 21,2008 9:25am - DYA / NLI  ""]
This thread rules.
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[Aug 21,2008 9:25am - ORGYMFATWORK  ""]

LET%20US%20PRAY said:Vital Remains should've disbanded in 2001. Tony is a rock star prick. The last two were weak compared to their old albums. If Tony doesen't own the name. I say Paul Flynn takes back the name and gets Joe Lewis, Rick Corbett, and Jeff Gruslin back in the band and kicks Tony out. Suzuki can stay though.


i grew up hanging out with Rick Corbett's sister, and i remember sitting around with them in their mothers house when i was maybe 17 (a little over a decade ago), and they told me he didn't want anything to do with VR, because he found out that they overdubbed some of his drum parts on "Into Cold Darkness"....

that rumour was confirmed by another member of the band (who i won't name, because i'm pretty sure he didn't want it getting around....i guess he didn't know that Ricky already knew) when i saw him a few years later (we were both working shitty jobs, accross the street from each other in Mansfield) and we shot the shit about his time in VR

anyway, my two cents on this whole situation
i saw VR live, opening for Deicide at Babyhead in Providence back in 1996 (i think....maybe 95), and it was one of the best death metal shows i've ever been to.

fast forward 4 or 5 years
VR at the living room with The Doosh Bags!!! (the first time i saw them with Thorn in the band, and the first time i ever heard The Doosh Bags....man their old drummer ruled!)
in my top five most fun/memorable shows list.

fast forward a few more years, i saw VR play with some shitty bands at some old warehouse in Olneyville....it was awful.

the band was tight, the sound was ok....but the setlist was 100 percent Dechristianize! what the fuck?!?!?!?!?!

i love Deicide, but Vital with Benton is just Generic, and it sells, only because Glen is on it.

i don't know about the price of their shirts, because i am big fat slob, and usually have to custom order t-shirts, so i don't own any vital remains shirts

but i am gonna defend Vital on certain points and disagree with some of you.
I think that Tony is a really nice dude, and about as metal as they come.... i can't remember a single death metal show in the new england area that i have been to, where he wasn't there supporting the local metal scene!! and i find it really odd to see so many of you bashing the guy

Suzuki, another really good dude, and an amazing musician, there are vital albums, where he plays every instrument on certain songs throughout the album and does most of the songwriting.

i will also disagree about Gruslin being their best vocalist. was he awesome, fuck yeah! but i don't see his vocals being any better than Joe or Thorn.

i disagree that Into Cold Darkness was their last good album.....it is my favorite.... but i definately think Forever Underground and Dawn of The Apocolypse (minus "The Night Has a Thousand Eyes"....what the fuck was Thorn thinking?) were excellent!

yes i agree some of their longer songs should be trimmed down because it's just a four minute song played twice....
but i still think every album before Dechristianize ruled.

even then Dechristianize wasn't bad, it just was nothing too original or memorable......

Icons of Evil....oh, Suzuki's drumming sounds faster, past that, i won't bitch if someone puts it on, but i'll never buy it.

anyway, i probably could rant on this subject all day, but it's pointless.....no offense to Dwyer or anyone else here.....but bands change all the time, and it's usually for the worse (especially when they have been around more than a decade), it's best to just accept it and enjoy their older material
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[Aug 21,2008 11:05am - ouchdrummer ""]
wow, this thread turned into dwyer ripping thread. I know its real old, but instead of just defending vital, they decided to constantly put down dwyer... i wanna hear the niagrafalls story, sounds interesting.
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[Aug 21,2008 11:10am - ouchdrummer ""]
i doubt dwyer took any offense to you DEFENDING vital, and yah, i gotta say as a drummer ICONS was definately stepping the bar up, but the whole record should have been one song, "Born to Rape the World" and it shoulda been 4 minutes. Add that to the title track from dechristianized and you have the best deathmetal ep ever.
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[Aug 21,2008 11:32am - monster_island ""]
i think dwyer should go retro and bring back the hair !!
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[Aug 21,2008 11:49am - DYA / NLI  ""]
TJ (er, "Thorn") was still, for my money, their best singer. He just got way too into being in his favorite band. Plus, y'know, cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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[Aug 21,2008 11:49am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
The ravages of time, I'd rock the Skullet.
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[Aug 21,2008 11:52am - monster_island ""]
kid a skullet and a handlebar mustachio and you'd be downright sinister !!!
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[Aug 21,2008 12:01pm - ouchdrummer ""]
if i can get away with it in a shirt and tie downtown I am gonna grow mine out too.
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[Aug 21,2008 12:46pm - orgymf@work  ""]

DYA%20/%20NLI said:TJ (er, "Thorn") was still, for my money, their best singer. He just got way too into being in his favorite band. Plus, y'know, cocaine is a hell of a drug.


i used hang with TJ alot, haven't heard from him in a long time, and last time i did talk to him, he didn't care about metal anymore, he did alot of drugs and he loved "Portished" and "Marilyn Manson"

but he was an awesome death metal vocalist
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[Aug 21,2008 1:22pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

orgymf@work said:
DYA%20/%20NLI said:TJ (er, "Thorn") was still, for my money, their best singer. He just got way too into being in his favorite band. Plus, y'know, cocaine is a hell of a drug.


i used hang with TJ alot, haven't heard from him in a long time, and last time i did talk to him, he didn't care about metal anymore, he did alot of drugs and he loved "Portished" and "Marilyn Manson"

but he was an awesome death metal vocalist



Yeah he chilled out some from that period and just started smoking a lot of pot.
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[Aug 21,2008 1:26pm - orgymf@work  ""]
good to hear it man.
if ya see him, tell him orgy says what's up.
i haven't seen that fuckin guy in a long fuckin time
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[Aug 21,2008 1:29pm - the_reverend ""]
I've seen like 6 vocalists with vital.
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[Aug 21,2008 1:34pm - ouchdrummer ""]
ORGY:
does everyone call you orgy? Had is been that way for a while? I think i knew you from a longass time ago. Did you know Stephanie Carey from walpole? How about garth priest from millis?
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[Aug 21,2008 1:48pm - monster_island ""]

ouchdrummer said:if i can get away with it in a shirt and tie downtown I am gonna grow mine out too.


we could start a gang ... like the NYDM guys and gals ... but you gotta grow a handlebar ... for the prospects they would have to wear one of these as part of initiation rites [img] until they can grow their own ... ladies would also have to wear them at scheduled meetings , gatherings , shows , rumbles , riots , rallies , banquets , barmitzvahs , street corners and tupperware parties ...

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[Aug 21,2008 2:24pm - ouchdrummer ""]
those are some sexy 'staches
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[Aug 21,2008 2:44pm - orgymf@work  ""]

ouchdrummer said:ORGY:
does everyone call you orgy? Had is been that way for a while? I think i knew you from a longass time ago. Did you know Stephanie Carey from walpole? How about garth priest from millis?



yeah, my brother started calling me orgy when i was 9 (before either of us knew what it meant....i don't remember how it came about...but it stuck over the years)

those names ring a bell. are you one of those people. do you/did you used to hang out with scott mcfadden? or shannon hennessey?
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[Aug 21,2008 3:03pm - ouchdrummer ""]
yes, scott mcfadden. He was a friend of a couple good friends of mine. He was real good friends with Garth Priest, and i believe you knew Andrew Fraizer too.. He was from Medfield, my home town. You remember him i'm sure?
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[Aug 21,2008 3:09pm - ouchdrummer ""]
i knew scott too, and he would remember me if i met him again but we only lhung out a couple times... i believe you were there for a couple of those times. You guys hung together all the time right? 95-98ish?
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[Aug 21,2008 3:28pm - zyklon ""]

ORGYMFATWORK said:
LET%20US%20PRAY said:Vital Remains should've disbanded in 2001. Tony is a rock star prick. The last two were weak compared to their old albums. If Tony doesen't own the name. I say Paul Flynn takes back the name and gets Joe Lewis, Rick Corbett, and Jeff Gruslin back in the band and kicks Tony out. Suzuki can stay though.


i grew up hanging out with Rick Corbett's sister, and i remember sitting around with them in their mothers house when i was maybe 17 (a little over a decade ago), and they told me he didn't want anything to do with VR, because he found out that they overdubbed some of his drum parts on "Into Cold Darkness"....

that rumour was confirmed by another member of the band (who i won't name, because i'm pretty sure he didn't want it getting around....i guess he didn't know that Ricky already knew) when i saw him a few years later (we were both working shitty jobs, accross the street from each other in Mansfield) and we shot the shit about his time in VR

anyway, my two cents on this whole situation
i saw VR live, opening for Deicide at Babyhead in Providence back in 1996 (i think....maybe 95), and it was one of the best death metal shows i've ever been to.

fast forward 4 or 5 years
VR at the living room with The Doosh Bags!!! (the first time i saw them with Thorn in the band, and the first time i ever heard The Doosh Bags....man their old drummer ruled!)
in my top five most fun/memorable shows list.

fast forward a few more years, i saw VR play with some shitty bands at some old warehouse in Olneyville....it was awful.

the band was tight, the sound was ok....but the setlist was 100 percent Dechristianize! what the fuck?!?!?!?!?!

i love Deicide, but Vital with Benton is just Generic, and it sells, only because Glen is on it.

i don't know about the price of their shirts, because i am big fat slob, and usually have to custom order t-shirts, so i don't own any vital remains shirts

but i am gonna defend Vital on certain points and disagree with some of you.
I think that Tony is a really nice dude, and about as metal as they come.... i can't remember a single death metal show in the new england area that i have been to, where he wasn't there supporting the local metal scene!! and i find it really odd to see so many of you bashing the guy

Suzuki, another really good dude, and an amazing musician, there are vital albums, where he plays every instrument on certain songs throughout the album and does most of the songwriting.

i will also disagree about Gruslin being their best vocalist. was he awesome, fuck yeah! but i don't see his vocals being any better than Joe or Thorn.

i disagree that Into Cold Darkness was their last good album.....it is my favorite.... but i definately think Forever Underground and Dawn of The Apocolypse (minus "The Night Has a Thousand Eyes"....what the fuck was Thorn thinking?) were excellent!

yes i agree some of their longer songs should be trimmed down because it's just a four minute song played twice....
but i still think every album before Dechristianize ruled.

even then Dechristianize wasn't bad, it just was nothing too original or memorable......

Icons of Evil....oh, Suzuki's drumming sounds faster, past that, i won't bitch if someone puts it on, but i'll never buy it.

anyway, i probably could rant on this subject all day, but it's pointless.....no offense to Dwyer or anyone else here.....but bands change all the time, and it's usually for the worse (especially when they have been around more than a decade), it's best to just accept it and enjoy their older material



I wanna thank this dude for his words, he couldn't have said it better. Fuck all VR haters, if you don't like an album then don't fucking buy it. Don't be a pussy and start talking shit on a public forum.
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[Aug 21,2008 3:48pm - orgymf@work  ""]

ouchdrummer said:i knew scott too, and he would remember me if i met him again but we only lhung out a couple times... i believe you were there for a couple of those times. You guys hung together all the time right? 95-98ish?


yeah i've been friends with scott since 97...
i vaguely remember andrew.
what is your name? where would i have met you at?
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[Aug 21,2008 3:51pm - orgymf@work  ""]

zyklon said:

I wanna thank this dude for his words, he couldn't have said it better. Fuck all VR haters, if you don't like an album then don't fucking buy it. Don't be a pussy and start talking shit on a public forum.



no problem dude!
i've been into vital for a long time, and i know a few of the band members (and ex-members) to be really cool guys, and i just had throw my opinions in to this conversation
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[Aug 21,2008 4:11pm - ouchdrummer ""]
My name is Jim Fitzpatrick. I was Garth Preists' roommate and good friend. I think, as strange as this sounds, that i spent some time with you and scott at a dunkin donuts in the middle of the night on route 1 in norwood/walpole. Perhaps? i dunno, that was a long time ago. How is Scott, you still talk to him?
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[Aug 21,2008 4:56pm - Samantha ""]

orgymf@work said:
DYA%20/%20NLI said:TJ (er, "Thorn") was still, for my money, their best singer. He just got way too into being in his favorite band. Plus, y'know, cocaine is a hell of a drug.


i used hang with TJ alot, haven't heard from him in a long time, and last time i did talk to him, he didn't care about metal anymore, he did alot of drugs and he loved "Portished" and "Marilyn Manson"

but he was an awesome death metal vocalist



I used to know that guy. I met him through some of my CoS friends. I haven't seen or heard from him in years.
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[Aug 21,2008 4:57pm - goatcatalystnli  ""]

orgymf@work said:

he did alot of drugs and he loved "Portished"



smart man

drugs + portishead > vital remains all night long, baby
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[Aug 21,2008 4:58pm - goatcatalystnli  ""]
ps fight me or you're a pussy?
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[Aug 21,2008 5:00pm - ouchdrummer ""]
DRUGS + PORTISHEAD + VITAL REMAINS = ALL GOOD STUFF

emphasized by all caps.
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[Aug 21,2008 9:28pm - LET US PRAY  ""]

ORGYMFATWORK said:
LET%20US%20PRAY said:Vital Remains should've disbanded in 2001. Tony is a rock star prick. The last two were weak compared to their old albums. If Tony doesen't own the name. I say Paul Flynn takes back the name and gets Joe Lewis, Rick Corbett, and Jeff Gruslin back in the band and kicks Tony out. Suzuki can stay though.


i grew up hanging out with Rick Corbett's sister, and i remember sitting around with them in their mothers house when i was maybe 17 (a little over a decade ago), and they told me he didn't want anything to do with VR, because he found out that they overdubbed some of his drum parts on "Into Cold Darkness"....

that rumour was confirmed by another member of the band (who i won't name, because i'm pretty sure he didn't want it getting around....i guess he didn't know that Ricky already knew) when i saw him a few years later (we were both working shitty jobs, accross the street from each other in Mansfield) and we shot the shit about his time in VR

anyway, my two cents on this whole situation
i saw VR live, opening for Deicide at Babyhead in Providence back in 1996 (i think....maybe 95), and it was one of the best death metal shows i've ever been to.

fast forward 4 or 5 years
VR at the living room with The Doosh Bags!!! (the first time i saw them with Thorn in the band, and the first time i ever heard The Doosh Bags....man their old drummer ruled!)
in my top five most fun/memorable shows list.

fast forward a few more years, i saw VR play with some shitty bands at some old warehouse in Olneyville....it was awful.

the band was tight, the sound was ok....but the setlist was 100 percent Dechristianize! what the fuck?!?!?!?!?!

i love Deicide, but Vital with Benton is just Generic, and it sells, only because Glen is on it.

i don't know about the price of their shirts, because i am big fat slob, and usually have to custom order t-shirts, so i don't own any vital remains shirts

but i am gonna defend Vital on certain points and disagree with some of you.
I think that Tony is a really nice dude, and about as metal as they come.... i can't remember a single death metal show in the new england area that i have been to, where he wasn't there supporting the local metal scene!! and i find it really odd to see so many of you bashing the guy

Suzuki, another really good dude, and an amazing musician, there are vital albums, where he plays every instrument on certain songs throughout the album and does most of the songwriting.

i will also disagree about Gruslin being their best vocalist. was he awesome, fuck yeah! but i don't see his vocals being any better than Joe or Thorn.

i disagree that Into Cold Darkness was their last good album.....it is my favorite.... but i definately think Forever Underground and Dawn of The Apocolypse (minus "The Night Has a Thousand Eyes"....what the fuck was Thorn thinking?) were excellent!

yes i agree some of their longer songs should be trimmed down because it's just a four minute song played twice....
but i still think every album before Dechristianize ruled.

even then Dechristianize wasn't bad, it just was nothing too original or memorable......

Icons of Evil....oh, Suzuki's drumming sounds faster, past that, i won't bitch if someone puts it on, but i'll never buy it.

anyway, i probably could rant on this subject all day, but it's pointless.....no offense to Dwyer or anyone else here.....but bands change all the time, and it's usually for the worse (especially when they have been around more than a decade), it's best to just accept it and enjoy their older material




I loved Forever Underground and Dawn of the Apocalypse. I was refering to Dechristianize and Icons of Evil being shit.
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[Aug 21,2008 9:33pm - the_reverend ""]
this thread should pick up all the names being dropped in it.
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[Aug 22,2008 8:58am - orgymf@work  ""]

ouchdrummer said:My name is Jim Fitzpatrick. I was Garth Preists' roommate and good friend. I think, as strange as this sounds, that i spent some time with you and scott at a dunkin donuts in the middle of the night on route 1 in norwood/walpole. Perhaps? i dunno, that was a long time ago. How is Scott, you still talk to him?


oh yeah, i remember, there was a bunch of us who (scott, shannon, james swords, garth, josh burton) used to hang out at dunkee's when there was nothin else to do.... just coffee, greasy food, metal talk and dirty jokes.

the name rings a bell, so i'm sure the dunkin' crowd is probably where i know you from
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[Aug 22,2008 9:01am - orgymf@work  ""]
oh, duh, and yeah, i still hang with scott all the time, we actually went to the devourment show on saturday, and he was at my comedy show on friday
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[Aug 22,2008 9:02am - ouchdrummer ""]
makes sense. well... nice to see you online? or something? Stay brutal?
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[Aug 22,2008 9:02am - orgymf@work  ""]

goatcatalystnli said:ps fight me or you're a pussy?


ok...but only if it's a drinking contest, a rape conteast, or jello wrestling
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[Aug 22,2008 9:09am - orgymf@work  ""]
[QUOTE="LET%20US%20PRAY:803172


I loved Forever Underground and Dawn of the Apocalypse. I was refering to Dechristianize and Icons of Evil being shit.



sorry man, that whole rant wasn't directed only at you, there were others in the thread trashing everything after into cold darkness
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[Aug 22,2008 9:11am - orgymf@work  ""]

the_reverend said:this thread should pick up all the names being dropped in it.


oh there's that clever sense of humour of yours again.
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[Jul 3,2014 10:57pm - hore hay doo kay  ""]
orgymf is a gay fat fuck and dwyer is a fucking loser piece of shit
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[Jul 4,2014 2:15am - RTTP DEPARTMENT OF GOSSIP  ""]

orgymf@work said:
ouchdrummer said:My name is Jim Fitzpatrick. I was Garth Preists' roommate and good friend. I think, as strange as this sounds, that i spent some time with you and scott at a dunkin donuts in the middle of the night on route 1 in norwood/walpole. Perhaps? i dunno, that was a long time ago. How is Scott, you still talk to him?


oh yeah, i remember, there was a bunch of us who (scott, shannon, james swords, garth, josh burton) used to hang out at dunkee's when there was nothin else to do.... just coffee, greasy food, metal talk and dirty jokes.

the name rings a bell, so i'm sure the dunkin' crowd is probably where i know you from



Orgymf hangs out with King Thunderstool.

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