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Red Sox 2009 Season

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[Jun 11,2009 3:02pm - arilliusbm ""]
Hate Dice-K? You've brought it to that point already?

He is a pretty boring pitcher to watch, only because he takes his sweet-ass time and likes to load the count. The key to him is if he can get to the 7th inning with 80 or more pitches. Pitching 100+ pitches by the 5th inning doesn't cut it. I could do that shit.
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[Jun 11,2009 3:04pm - W3 nli  ""]
Brad Penny is doing fine for a bargaining chip pitcher, but yeah D-Mat is a fucking D-Bag and needs to be traded they would clean up if they traded him earlier in the year but now he's garbage.

they need a solid SS and if Ortiz is still not hitting the rest of the month they def need one more big bat, i dont see why they dont let some of those young guns come up from triple a and give them a go wouldnt be any worse then Ortiz and might actually show they can play in the bigs.

solid middle of the line up though shits crazy.
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[Jun 11,2009 3:09pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
I think Nick Green is doing a decent job at SS but he's not an every day starter. I heard a rumor the Sox were looking at Jack Wilson from the Pirates. That would be great.

Aril, I only dislike Dice-K so much right now because every time he pitches, he's only slightly better than Ching-Ming Wang. He gives up way too many walks, especially when he's already ahead in the count. It's so annoying. He's not worth the amount of money we spent on him. Hell, he's not even worth sticking in the bullpen.
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[Jun 11,2009 3:13pm - arilliusbm ""]
I think Dice-K's got potential to rebound. He's got good stuff but he has had horrible location since he got back off the DL. His last start was strange because he had excellent location, but everyone hit his pitches. He has to find a happy median somewhere and learn to work the corners more.

Actually I think the Yankees are going through the same thing with their Japanese star - Matsui. They are obviously phasing him out. He plays DH now due to his past injuries and he also ended a 0-16 slump last night against the sox. Dude's only batting .250 this year.
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[Jun 11,2009 3:14pm - W3 nli  ""]
Nick Green isnt even a solid backup, he's helped make our infield horrible. well him and that 9million dollar weight sitting on our bench but yeah Lowrie needs to come back fast. i mean he's no power guy but he's solid on the field, we need a good pedoria on the leftside of the infield.

you know someone who can bat 285 15hr 85 rbi and like 20 sb thats got some range in the field thats all im asking for doesnt have to be gold glove but fuck even john valentin would be better then the doods out on the field right now.
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[Jun 11,2009 3:16pm - arilliusbm ""]
john valentin ftw.

any of you guys ever call EEI? I'm seriously thinking about it.
'you wassup, love ya show, first time callah, long time listenah. lemme tell you somethin you little prick.." Can't wait.
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[Jun 11,2009 3:18pm - W3 nli  ""]
LOL i tried to once but they kept me on hold for 15mins so i hung up
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[Jun 11,2009 3:20pm - arilliusbm ""]
"W3 on a cell, whats up?"
"come see in the shit tonight.."
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[Jun 11,2009 3:25pm - RustyPS ""]
rather have Green than Lugo...in fact, when Lowrie gets back, I hope they cut Lugo and eat his money

Dice's problem (except for his last game) has always been that he tries to strike every batter out by trying to get swings and misses...he's gotta get it through his stubborn head that in the majors, most batters won't swing at that stuff...he should pitch to contact much, much more (which he did his last start, but his stuff wasn't as good as it usually is)
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[Jun 11,2009 3:31pm - arilliusbm ""]
i think half of dice's problem is all mental. he always looks intimidated when he's pitching. dude needs to relax, listen to some Sigh or Abigail and clear his mind.
he's 1-4 right now, let's hope he can finish the season 11-8 or 13-9, 17-4(yea right)
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[Jun 11,2009 3:36pm - RustyPS ""]

arilliusbm said:i think half of dice's problem is all mental. he always looks intimidated when he's pitching. dude needs to relax, listen to some Sigh or Abigail and clear his mind.
he's 1-4 right now, let's hope he can finish the season 11-8 or 13-9, 17-4(yea right)

I don't think that's it...at least not the "intimidated" part

I just think he needs to stop thinking he can strike every batter out...hopefully, he doesn't revert to that in his next start because the Rangers had 10 hits on him when he actually threw over the plate
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[Jun 11,2009 3:41pm - arilliusbm ""]
I sincerely hope he doesn't follow in the footsteps of Hideo Nomo. Dude was great his first couple of years, then sucks horribly after that.

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[Jun 11,2009 4:58pm - W3 nli  ""]
well Nomo i think had surgery on his elbow, and then kinda started getting his shit back i mean he did throw a no no for the sox.

d-bag just needs to stop listening to everyone and pitch the way he did last year if he's gonna take a million years inbetween each pitch i dont care as long as he's getting outs and getting us wins.
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[Jun 12,2009 10:00am - arilliusbm ""]
-8-0 vs nyy now
-ortiz 3hr in past 5 games
-saito has been much better
-i know hope we don't trade penny away
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[Jun 12,2009 10:05am - RustyPS ""]
that win last night looked like a win from back in like 2004 when they'd be down late in the game, then their bullpen (Saito)/defense (Baldelli) would bail them out, and everything else would go right....awesome game

as good as Penny has looked lately, he might have stamped his ticket outta here with that performance last night....his trade value most likely will never be as high as it is right now
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[Jun 12,2009 1:26pm - W3 nli  ""]
yeah thats what i was thinking lastnight. too bad to cause he's looking solid and in all honesty we dont know what we got with bucholz and smoltz yet theyre killing it down in the minors. which to me means jack shit till theyre up in the bigs crushing it.

trade clay boy and get some goods
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[Aug 6,2009 9:05pm - Aril mobile finally  ""]
Hahaha pathetic. Season is starting to look like 2006. We are done!
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[Aug 6,2009 9:14pm - BlackoutRick ""]
haahahahahaha @ Ortiz. Fuckin juicer. MLB = cry baby twats
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[Aug 6,2009 9:15pm - GUY ""]
[QUOTE="arilliusbm:936431"
-i know hope we don't trade penny away



want a mulligan on that one
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[Aug 6,2009 9:16pm - quintessence ""]
Smoltz is a joke. God I fucking hate him.
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[Aug 9,2009 10:05pm - arilliusbm ""]
red sox haven't scored a run in 30 innings. this is getting pathetic.

on a good note, the WRKO/WEEI sound guy was playing the Devin Townshend Band in the background. I heard some 'shuggah last night too. What a job for a metalhead to have.
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[Aug 9,2009 10:10pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
Say goodbye to winning the division.
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[Aug 9,2009 10:35pm - xanonymousx ""]
going to tomorrows game.
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[Aug 9,2009 10:43pm - arilliusbm ""]
V MART fuck yea
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[Aug 9,2009 10:44pm - RustyPS ""]
ABOUT FUCKING TIME
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[Aug 9,2009 10:51pm - arilliusbm ""]
damon and teixeira.... fuck you
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[Aug 11,2009 9:43am - aril mobile  ""]
Tazawa starting tonight. Will he do well?
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[Aug 11,2009 9:52am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
basketball/football season needs to fucking start now.
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[Aug 11,2009 9:54am - tito francoma  ""]
gotta be better than Smolttz starting tonight....don't worry though, if he does bad I'll leave him in for too long, and if he's doing good I'll take him out early(when his pitch count gets around 100):shocker::shocker:
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[Aug 11,2009 10:23am - aril mobile  ""]
Biggest troll ever. Fucking dude got us 2 championships. Never understood all the haters
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[Aug 11,2009 10:34am - SkinSandwich ""]
Well, the Sox season is over. Bring on the Patriots.
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[Aug 11,2009 10:41am - aril mobile  ""]
Yea right. Still got a month and a half
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[Aug 11,2009 10:43am - SkinSandwich ""]
Time has been flying. Month and a half is like a week to me lately.

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[Aug 11,2009 11:10am - brian_dc ""]
wow...baseball season really flies when you're not paying any attention to it.
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[Aug 11,2009 11:21am - arilliusbm ""]

brian_dc said:wow...baseball season really flies when you're not paying any attention to it.


Too much time with the new girlfriend, eh?
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[Aug 11,2009 11:26am - brian_dc ""]

arilliusbm said:
brian_dc said:wow...baseball season really flies when you're not paying any attention to it.


Too much time with the new girlfriend, eh?




How did you know I got a new gal pal?

I'm a fag, I follow European soccer. Takes up all of my allotted sports capacity.
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[Aug 11,2009 11:27am - RustyPS ""]

aril%20mobile said:Biggest troll ever. Fucking dude got us 2 championships. Never understood all the haters
agreed...every move he makes has a logical reason behind it...no matter if you agree with him or not

this season is far from over...Yankees could bomb out....and I don't see the Sox offense staying this bad for the rest of the season
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[Aug 11,2009 11:27am - brian_dc ""]
Also, I figured when I went to a game and saw a no-hitter, nothing would really live up to that for baseball for me.
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[Aug 11,2009 11:30am - tito francoma  ""]
understand this: the TEAM won us 2 championships...it had little to nothing to do with tito other than he kept friendly w/ all the players. I challenge you to come up w/ one decision he made that led to either of those championships besides sticking w/ Pedroia during his slow start.he's a players coach and 1 more season of the type of decision making he's made this year AND HE'LL BE RUN OUT OF TOWN!
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[Aug 11,2009 11:35am - RustyPS ""]

tito%20francoma said:understand this: the TEAM won us 2 championships...it had little to nothing to do with tito other than he kept friendly w/ all the players. I challenge you to come up w/ one decision he made that led to either of those championships besides sticking w/ Pedroia during his slow start.he's a players coach and 1 more season of the type of decision making he's made this year AND HE'LL BE RUN OUT OF TOWN!
2 off the top of my head:

1) starting Ellsbury over Crisp in the 2007 playoff/WS run
2) starting an unproven David Ortiz (I know when he first got here he was sharing time with Jeremy Giambi, but NO ONE saw him doing anything until Francona started him)
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[Aug 11,2009 11:37am - brian_dc ""]
I kicked ass with Jeremy Giambi in MVP 2007...or 2006...I forget.
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[Aug 11,2009 11:48am - aril mobile  ""]

brian_dc said:

Too much time with the new girlfriend, eh?



you bragged bout how awesome her and her parents are in some thread haha

How did you know I got a new gal pal?

I'm a fag, I follow European soccer. Takes up all of my allotted sports capacity.

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[Aug 11,2009 11:50am - tito francoma  ""]

RustyPS said:
aril%20mobile said:Biggest troll ever. Fucking dude got us 2 championships. Never understood all the haters
agreed...every move he makes has a logical reason behind it...no matter if you agree with him or not

ok, thanks for the info Dale Arnold, now how bout some original thought here!

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[Aug 11,2009 11:53am - tito francoma  ""]

RustyPS said:
tito%20francoma said:understand this: the TEAM won us 2 championships...it had little to nothing to do with tito other than he kept friendly w/ all the players. I challenge you to come up w/ one decision he made that led to either of those championships besides sticking w/ Pedroia during his slow start.he's a players coach and 1 more season of the type of decision making he's made this year AND HE'LL BE RUN OUT OF TOWN!
2 off the top of my head:

1) starting Ellsbury over Crisp in the 2007 playoff/WS run
2) starting an unproven David Ortiz (I know when he first got here he was sharing time with Jeremy Giambi, but NO ONE saw him doing anything until Francona started him)


touche',
just pissing about his pitching decision...especially lately. I think when you get to crunch time in the season as we are now the pitch count should be reconsidered if the pitcher is in the zone and if a game is getting out of hand , don't let the dude keep pitching!!!!
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[Aug 11,2009 12:01pm - brian_dc ""]

aril%20mobile said:
brian_dc said:

Too much time with the new girlfriend, eh?



you bragged bout how awesome her and her parents are in some thread haha

How did you know I got a new gal pal?

I'm a fag, I follow European soccer. Takes up all of my allotted sports capacity.




I must have been on peyote. I don't remember ever posting that.
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[Aug 11,2009 12:13pm - RustyPS ""]

tito%20francoma said:
RustyPS said:
tito%20francoma said:understand this: the TEAM won us 2 championships...it had little to nothing to do with tito other than he kept friendly w/ all the players. I challenge you to come up w/ one decision he made that led to either of those championships besides sticking w/ Pedroia during his slow start.he's a players coach and 1 more season of the type of decision making he's made this year AND HE'LL BE RUN OUT OF TOWN!
2 off the top of my head:

1) starting Ellsbury over Crisp in the 2007 playoff/WS run
2) starting an unproven David Ortiz (I know when he first got here he was sharing time with Jeremy Giambi, but NO ONE saw him doing anything until Francona started him)


touche',
just pissing about his pitching decision...especially lately. I think when you get to crunch time in the season as we are now the pitch count should be reconsidered if the pitcher is in the zone and if a game is getting out of hand , don't let the dude keep pitching!!!!

2 rebuttals to that: you shouldn't mortgage your future on one game, so keeping a tight pitch count for some pitchers is the right thing to do....and I think Tito wants to show he has confidence in guys that they can get out of jams, which doesn't always pay off (read: Smoltz x infinity)

its important though...if you take a guy out every time he gets in a jam, the pitcher will lose confidence in you, which is the worst thing that can happen to a coach/manager...but if you leave them in in a jam and they get out of it, his confidence (both in himself and in the manager) will go through the roof

case in point: Jon Lester...he'd get into jams pretty much every inning it seemed for the first 2 years in the majors, and was able to get out of 99% of them...I personally think he wouldn't be the pitcher he is right now if Tito had taken him out every time he was in a big pressure situation
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[Aug 11,2009 12:29pm - aril mobile  ""]

brian_dc said:

I must have been on peyote. I don't remember ever posting that.



haha you did somewhere. There's no other way I'd know that shit otherwise
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[Aug 14,2009 1:52pm - arilliusbm ""]
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds..._bases/2009/08/sox_acquire_ale.html

Red Sox just traded for Alex Gonzo. If anyone remembers him it's because he's a vacuum at shortstop.
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[Aug 14,2009 2:13pm - tito francoma  ""]
^^^^^^^this outa save us
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[Aug 14,2009 2:26pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
Defense is important, yes, but we need our offense to really kick it into gear if we're even gonna win the Wild Card.

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