New England Hardcore and Metal fest 2004 day 2 the recap[views:44771][posts:162]the Palladium - first stage (Worcester, MA) - [between_the_buried_and_me][bleeding_through][bury_your_dead][cannae][children_of_bodom][diecast][evergreen_terrace][glass_casket][iced_earth][kataklysm][martyr_ad][misery_index][misery_signals][randomshots][since_the_flood][throwdown][walls_of_jericho][what_weapons_bring_war][zao][100_demons][comeback_kid][embrace_today][love_is_red][pig_destroyer][scarlet][scar_culture][terror][the_autumn_offering][through_the_discipline][to_the_grave][twelve_tribes] ____________________________________________ [May 2,2004 2:03pm - theundergroundscene ""] Aaron hit the nail right on the head. I don't understand why everyone is complaining. I had a great time, even during the outage. It definitely dampened the vibe for a little while, but things got kicking again and it was an awesome show... I'm supposed to be on my way to CBGB's but after two softball games this morning, I am wiped out!!! |
| _____________________________ [May 2,2004 2:30pm - cdan ""] [img] awesome, SUM41 played? |
| _____________________________ [May 2,2004 2:31pm - cdan ""] haha, shit, that didnt work. how do you post pics? |
| ___________________________________ [May 2,2004 2:33pm - anonymous ""] the power going out was a hell of alot better then all the narrowmind people that where there the metalheads bitching about people headwalking and crowd swurfing during the hardcore bands and the hardcore kids saying there going to beat the shit out of the metalheads all the narrormind people should fucking die |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2004 2:47pm - succubus ""] just click on the question mark poor aaron has posted it a million times lol |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2004 2:49pm - succubus ""] [img] there you are |
| ___________________________________ [May 2,2004 3:22pm - anonymous ""] cannae: dan's last show I guess... I'm not sure though cause they are going off to ohio on tour. they sounded awesome. totally in their element down there. and is that a the_network shirt I see? maybe they'll bust out a fault song. it was dan's last show.... they left for ohio last night with shane their tour manager as their new bass player. |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2004 3:46pm - succubus ""] they did announce it was his last show but aaron was running aroung getting pics of every band so he missed a bit in doing so |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2004 3:57pm - succubus ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [May 2,2004 4:01pm - snowwhitesuicide ""] That was a long fucking weekend. And for everyone crying about us "supporting such a terrible fest"....I had a press pass and snuck someone in, so stop leaving me IMs revoking my metal points. [Joe] This fest was great for hardcore fans, I am not one so I spent a lot of time waiting for the handful of metal bands. BUT I had a good fucking time hanging out, seeing people I only see at metalfests like friends in distros and people like Charlie goddamn Lyons. It was a pleasure to be shoved, tripped and trampled by the rev in the picture pit, and thanks a million Tom for fixing my camera! The blackout was funny, I didn't miss anyone I gave a shit about so I had a good laugh at all the fashioncore kids having hissy fits outside. I was paid back for my assholeness however because Evergrey's set was cut completely due to bus trouble and MassConcerts sucking my girlballs. Lastly, fuck Iced Earth. Ripper Owens is the worst vocalist ever, the new album sucks and Jon Schaffer is a douchebag. \m/ |
| _________________________________________ [May 2,2004 4:02pm - snowwhitesuicide ""] Oh yeah and Carina, I didn't get to abuse you as my bitch this weekend, I demand a raincheck! |
| _________________________________________ [May 2,2004 4:14pm - snowwhitesuicide ""] i_am_not_me said:Some fucking hardcore fag gave my girlfriend a concussion...so we had to go to the hospital, thus resulting in me missing Children of Bodom and ICED EARTH Yeah, but think of all the scenepoints that kid has now! [The Iced Earth cover band claiming to be Iced Earth will be back in RI on the 2nd leg of their tour, Bodom was fucking awesome, the MIGHT be coming back with IE so don't despair] |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2004 4:27pm - succubus ""] snowwhitesuicide said:Oh yeah and Carina, I didn't get to abuse you as my bitch this weekend, I demand a raincheck! i was going to say the same thing! you name the time and place:bow: |
| ____________________________________ [May 2,2004 4:42pm - RustedAngel ""] what weapons bring war: i was dealing with iced earth merch so I missed you guys, sorry! misery signals: ehh, lame. martyr ad: ehh. cannae: fauuuuuuuuult! ooooookla! Black out!!!!!!: wanted to see blood has been shed but the power went out. I went outside soon after and walked around looking for people i knew. got a hot dog. Ate on the band side of the palladium because it was in the shade. Sat there pretty much the entire time... I saw a huge mic above peoples head so I went down to see what it was and it was that Juliya girl from uranium... I took a picture of her as she was walking towards me and the next thing you know I'm surrounded by like 4 huge cameras and her tiny one stuck in my face. Totally unprepared I answered her questions as lame as possible. A BJ would have been nice instead of the interview. misery index: finally some shit I wanted to see. They were pretty sick, but the guitars were not very audible. bury your dead: good at getting the crowd riled up, and getting people to hurt eachother. musically it's definetly not something I would ever listen too. kataklysm: finally again, was looking foreward to this. I did notice his guitar was sorta cutting out at certain frequencies... possibly his wireless battery was dying. Also the Left PA stack was also cutting out for the rest of the show. walls of jericho: came out with a lot of energy, kinda fun to watch the chick run around and do poppy dances. She told everyone to jump over the kids in the front and one kid in the front called her a cunt and she said something over the PA after that I couldn't make out. between the buried and me: pretty good live... the guitarist on the right was pretty good at arpeggios and sweeps. diecast: same old diecast I've seen a million times since they started though were much better in those days except with a new singer. I always say the drummer is too good for this band. I think i'll stick with that statement. throwdown: you suck, I can't believe I had to sit through your set AGAIN. zao: 2nd time seeing them, wish they picked more of the older songs to play. bleeding through: um, lots of energy, but it was sorta boring... couldn't really hear the keyboards (which seems to always be the case when the person isn't doing much) children of bodom: now here's some real keyboard action. faaaaaacken sick once again. wish they could have played much much longer! got a picture with alex right as he walked off the stage. \m/ iced earth: finally saw this guys since listening to them since 1998. kinda cool... barlow's vocals fit the mix much better than ripper. the music was still there though. I wonder if richard christy is going to be on howard stern's show or not as a replacement for stuttering john? any lynneaus, who was the guy in the wheelchair? that shit was depressing to see. I think I saw him in front of the palladium in like 2000 or something. |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2004 4:53pm - Lynneaus ""] RustedAngel said: any lynneaus, who was the guy in the wheelchair? that shit was depressing to see. I think I saw him in front of the palladium in like 2000 or something. i dont think i saw him so i dunno |
| ____________________________________ [May 2,2004 4:54pm - Wee...Bink! ""] i_am_not_me said:Some fucking hardcore fag gave my girlfriend a concussion...so we had to go to the hospital, thus resulting in me missing Children of Bodom and ICED EARTH My friend's dad is the one that kicked that hardcore kid's ass. |
| _________________________________________ [May 2,2004 5:05pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] swamplorddvm said:the kids who started fights were complete cowards. THEY PULLED THE GUYS HAIR!!! So gay. Anyway, it was lovely chatting with the rev and succubus again and Bodom was holy shit amazing. they did that to me last year because i was holding back TWO of their boys from pounding on one small kid. the whole time the kid pulling my hair was saying "ill fuck you up, ill fuck you up" but in actuality, if i was standing, he wouldnt have had a fucking chance. if that kid ever reads this, come see me sometime and ill let you try to fuck me up 1 on 1. have a nice life, you fucking pansy bitch. oh and while i was on the ground, a bunch of fags tried to stomp me, but i blocked every single one. Worcester is gay and their whole scene is fucking laughable. |
| _________________________________________ [May 2,2004 5:07pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] oh and the power went out last year, and the year before that. i KNOW it went out the year before, im trying to remember if it actually went out last year... im also pretty sure it did, but i could be wrong about that. |
| _________________________________________ [May 2,2004 5:17pm - intricateprocess ""] yea,i remember see spalding go down. i was in the balcony.........didnt they try to kick YOU out for people attacking YOU? lol if the black out lasted for like an hour and a half less it would have been cool. the thing i liked about it.......it was break in the middle of the day, and you didnt have to miss any bands my biggest beef.......where are the death/grind bands? come on, you cant book someone like circle of dead children,bodies in the gears,commit suicide or someone else like that today. cattle decpaitation was like the only death metal band to play. that angered me, but whatever. it was still a decent year. |
| _________________________________________ [May 2,2004 5:22pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] haha yeah... the security guard tried booting ME out and as soon as a few people around me saw that, they came over bitching at him saying that i didnt do anything and the security guard said "go up to the balcony because if you stay down here, you're gonna get hurt" that pissed me off because the same group of kids were beating all sorts of people up and the kids that got beat up were the ones getting kicked out and not the people ganging up on them for no reason. its fucking gay. |
| _________________________________________ [May 2,2004 5:27pm - intricateprocess ""] and oh, did anyone hear that loud f'n noise coming out of the side of the building..........once i heard that, i knew there were major problems and jesus christ, i didnt fall asleep till like 3 both nights i stayed in my hotel room, not becuase of booze.......but because of shitty rice burner cars and bikes waking me up every 30 seconds |
| _________________________________________ [May 2,2004 5:32pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] Worcester is like a larger Charles Street in Waltham... Puerto Ricans galore. |
| ____________________________________________ [May 2,2004 5:42pm - theundergroundscene ""] "my biggest beef.......where are the death/grind bands? come on, you cant book someone like circle of dead children,bodies in the gears,commit suicide or someone else like that today. cattle decpaitation was like the only death metal band to play. that angered me, but whatever. it was still a decent year." Where are the tours those death/grind bands are on? If they weren't remotely near New England how the hell can they be booked? Seriously, everyone has bitched and moaned and groaned about this show more than anything I've ever seen in my life. What if they got In Flames to come over a few days early to start their tour with Killswitch Engage and As I Lay Dying.... oh wait, that show is coming to the Palladium on it's own in a month. Maybe they should have had the ENTIRE Morbid Angel tour re-route itself just for this one fest? The only other "metal" band they really could have added was Obituary, but I guess that didn't work out for them. As for the Evergrey thing, how is THAT the Palladium's fault? From what I understand, Children of Bodom's bus broke down and Evergrey gave up there's so that COB could make it. Which band was more important in the grand scheme of things? Evergrey or COB? Listening to the chants going on last night, I think I am going to go with COB, but regardless, the Palladium didn't make COB's bus break down just like they didn't make the power go out for three hours... |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2004 6:13pm - Kalopsia ""] theundergroundscene said:"my biggest beef.......where are the death/grind bands? come on, you cant book someone like circle of dead children,bodies in the gears,commit suicide or someone else like that today. cattle decpaitation was like the only death metal band to play. that angered me, but whatever. it was still a decent year." Where are the tours those death/grind bands are on? If they weren't remotely near New England how the hell can they be booked? Seriously, everyone has bitched and moaned and groaned about this show more than anything I've ever seen in my life. What if they got In Flames to come over a few days early to start their tour with Killswitch Engage and As I Lay Dying.... oh wait, that show is coming to the Palladium on it's own in a month. Maybe they should have had the ENTIRE Morbid Angel tour re-route itself just for this one fest? The only other "metal" band they really could have added was Obituary, but I guess that didn't work out for them. As for the Evergrey thing, how is THAT the Palladium's fault? From what I understand, Children of Bodom's bus broke down and Evergrey gave up there's so that COB could make it. Which band was more important in the grand scheme of things? Evergrey or COB? Listening to the chants going on last night, I think I am going to go with COB, but regardless, the Palladium didn't make COB's bus break down just like they didn't make the power go out for three hours... yea but they still booked a bunch of shitty bands |
| _____________________________________ [May 2,2004 6:26pm - the_reverend ""] I agree with intricateprocess's statement in so much as I would have liked to have seen commit suicide play metalfest at some point. Or get disgorge up here again. there are a bunch of amazing large deathgrind bands on willowtip and others that would come up for a show for like $100. but that didn't happen so I'm not going to bitch about it. hopefully next year will be more like NJMHF last november when TONS of band tour crossed over and the second stage is packed with a large assortment. what time did the second stage end last year? it seemed really early this year... I remember a few years ago (4?) when it went to 12-1am-ish. last year, I swear it went to atleast 9. |
| ____________________________________________ [May 2,2004 6:27pm - theundergroundscene ""] Well, that's all a matter of opinion. I had a great time, and I know a lot of other people that feel the same way. Maybe there could have been some bigger, "better" bands, but I guarentee that a lot of the bands that played this year will be much "bigger" this time next year... |
| ____________________________________________ [May 2,2004 6:30pm - theundergroundscene ""] "what time did the second stage end last year? it seemed really early this year... I remember a few years ago (4?) when it went to 12-1am-ish. last year, I swear it went to atleast 9." They try to get it over by 7:30 so the can let in all the "headliner" ticket holders, because while upstairs is running, no one can sit in the balcony... |
| ____________________________________ [May 2,2004 6:30pm - Ninkaszi187 ""] Not that I really care, but this fest hasn't been good since maybe the first two in my opinion. Why should a band have to be touring to play? I'm sure a band like Commit Suicide would just drive up and play if they had the oppurtunity. Why couldn't Watchmaker play? Circle Of Dead Children? It all has to do with politics, ass kissing, and other lame antics. If thats the way it's going to be, fine. If you go to these fests, you should know what it's like by now, and you have no right to bitch. Thats why I don't go anymore, I know it's not for me. So the rest, have fun, I'm sure you did. |
| ______________________________________ [May 2,2004 6:36pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] From what I understand, Scott Lee refused to put any Willowtip bands on the bill when he was asked. And when Willowtip tried to put it's on show on at Club Marque the same day (with all Willowtip bands), Mass Concerts bribed Marque to cancel it. |
| _____________________________________ [May 2,2004 6:49pm - the_reverend ""] right... that's like the 10th label that I've heard about having a "thrid" stage down the road at club marque. Sounds to me it's more like people thought about it before asking the venue. what was the last friday or saturday show anyone here was able to set up? I'm sure one night it was urban dance night and the other korn-cover band night. |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2004 8:00pm - succubus ""] blah blah ehine whine bitch bitch [img] i'm trying to lighten up thew mood! anyone recognize the famous girlies? |
| _____________________________________ [May 2,2004 8:19pm - Pat Meebles ""] kibblesndicks said:I saw that girl get all kinds of knocked the fuck out. got a good chuckle I must say. COB Sucked a cock. Iced Earth...... well fuck Iced Earth. All their fucking long haired fans, who don't know what the fuck shampoo is can fuck themselves. And lastly What the fuck is it with head banging and playing Air guitar? Your not in the fucking band, Stop acting like you are. Leave the fag fucking air guitar at home in your closet. You can store it next to your sexuality. And what about all that pit ninja moves? And what's with all the grabbing the mic of the singer every chance you get? You're not in the band, leave the mic-stealing in the closet with your girl's pants. |
| _______________________________________ [May 2,2004 8:25pm - JonahBloodbath ""] I hate to join all the whiners but this was easily the worst year. There were lots of great smaller bands like misery signals, from a second story window, psyopus etc, but as far as the bigger bands there wasn't anyone really exciting. No one that suprised me..throwdown? arch enemy? shocking.. Maybe scott lee should try stepping outside the obvious. Get bands like Pelican, keelhaul, or tragedy. Bands that are really fucking good even though they aren't on "cool" labels or normally playing mass concert events. I feel like the whole weekend was basically black market trust kill century fest. |
| _______________________________________ [May 2,2004 8:26pm - JonahBloodbath ""] Girl from bleeding through? you, rachel mpb |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2004 8:29pm - succubus ""] yep...marta is her name Jonah wins! i am uploading my pics now...you want me to send you the pic you took with my fisheye? |
| _____________________________________ [May 2,2004 8:33pm - the_reverend ""] I got punched in the back of the head during 100 demons.. I think... got fallen on top of by crowd surfers... and during terror got my backpack stepped on.. but I'm not complaining. it's just what happens when you are where you are. "black market trust kill century fest" you say that like it's a bad thing... though seeing tragedy would have been awesome. |
| ____________________________________________ [May 2,2004 8:36pm - theundergroundscene ""] This is, I think, my favorite picture I took out of the 1900 or so I took: [img] |
| _______________________________________ [May 2,2004 8:40pm - JonahBloodbath ""] "you say that like it's a bad thing" Black market has almost all amazing bands, century media is kind of meh but alright, but jesus christ trust kill is the anti-christ of any hardcore ethic I've ever known true. What do I know, im just some kid with long hair, but when did hardcore ever need to be mass marketed? When I want to hear good hardcore i'll head to a basement, not the mall. |
| _______________________________________ [May 2,2004 8:46pm - JonahBloodbath ""] or the basement and not the palladium in this case |
| _______________________________________ [May 2,2004 8:48pm - JonahBloodbath ""] carina: I would like the picture I took, it was my girlfriend right? other then that, what do I win?! |
| _____________________________________ [May 2,2004 8:59pm - the_reverend ""] I like a lot of trustkill bands... mpb, it dies today, bleeding through, terror and walls of jericho. mpb, idt, and terror I've seen at "tiny" shows... also, I don't really like nora, but they put on a great show. I like this one cause he's all "hey rttp. long time, no see. what are you doing over there?" [img] |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2004 9:08pm - succubus ""] ok jonah..what's yer email? i'm sorting my pics now |
| _______________________________________ [May 2,2004 9:39pm - demonofthemoor ""] dude, evergrey was there..I was talking to the vocalist...the palladium asked them not to play thats all HE WAS WALKING AROUND THE VENUE THE WHOLE TIME... one think that really pissed me off was during Bury Your Dead when the stupid pit dancers were punching me..when I was sitting on that little over hang and they wouldnt go away...im glad I kicked that kid in the face..he had a bloody nose and stuff..i hope he bled to death |
| _______________________________________ [May 2,2004 9:40pm - demonofthemoor ""] terror is like a bad hatebreed, the good thing about this is that there is no such thing as a good hatebreed... they just get kinda boring after a while with the constant DUHDUNDUHDUN FIGHT FOR YOUR DESTINY |
| ____________________________________ [May 2,2004 9:40pm - i_am_not_me ""] snowwhitesuicide said:Ripper Owens is the worst vocalist ever Uh...did you even see any of the other bands there? :ralphie: |
| _______________________________________ [May 2,2004 9:44pm - demonofthemoor ""] during the black out, the girl from bleeding through was walking around and she walked right past me...I said marry me now..and im pretty sure she heard me.. hahaha |
| ____________________________________ [May 2,2004 9:44pm - i_am_not_me ""] Wee...Bink! said:i_am_not_me said:Some fucking hardcore fag gave my girlfriend a concussion...so we had to go to the hospital, thus resulting in me missing Children of Bodom and ICED EARTH My friend's dad is the one that kicked that hardcore kid's ass. You know who it was? |
| ____________________________________ [May 2,2004 9:47pm - chistopher ""] why wouldn't they put any Willow Tip bands on the bill. It would of been totally killer to see Arsis, since I just fell in love with them Yeah, this show was fun, but dissapointing. For one thing, I had to go by myself...so for the major part I had no one to talk to. I tried to find conversations with some people to kill the time, but not many of the hip cats what to talk to a goofy lookin 16 year old. It really sucked during the black out. I played 2 rounds of dodge ball though. Watched the girl fight. The one really hardcore chick, laid the most solid kung fu punch to this other girl's face, it was awasome. Some of the kids were real dicks though. Like when the dad was trying to get the girls out of the fight, one of them just straight out kicked him in the head. Sure at first I laughed, but then kinda felt bad for the dude. As for the tunes, I'm really more of a metal guy. I mostly wanted to see Between and the Buried and Me though, I noticed the mess up too rev, as I was singing along too. Kataklysm did a great set, and Children of Bodom were great. btw, don't be hating on air guitar man the 100 Demons set was crazy, Diecast was fun, Zao were neat as were WoJ. I think I can pretty much reconize a bunch of you peoples now. I had a good time, I hope next year though, as most of us whiners here, there is ome more metal. |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2004 9:57pm - succubus ""] the_reverend said:I like a lot of trustkill bands... mpb, it dies today, bleeding through, terror and walls of jericho. mpb, idt, and terror I've seen at "tiny" shows... also, I don't really like nora, but they put on a great show. I like this one cause he's all "hey rttp. long time, no see. what are you doing over there?" [img] i didn't get a lot of pics of them because i was backstage with marta for most of their set |
| _____________________________________ [May 2,2004 10:37pm - RustedAngel ""] yeaaah! [img] beiitch, look for me on uranium! haha.a [img] |