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[Feb 15,2009 8:18pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
No ground shit, find someone else that want to roll around with you, not me.
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[Feb 15,2009 9:25pm - dftg  ""]
I'm totally willing to punch dwyer any day of the week.
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[Feb 15,2009 9:34pm - goatcatalyst ""]
I still want to fight Blue with bong rips and side B of Blessed Are The Sick.
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[Feb 15,2009 9:50pm - MillenialKingdom ""]

AUTOPSY_666 said:No ground shit, find someone else that want to roll around with you, not me.


Pussy.
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[Feb 15,2009 10:32pm - xmikex ""]
haha it doesn't even matter. 2 minutes into the first round this fight is gonna look like the end of Rocky II with both of you collapsing out of sheer exhaustion.

Fight on the fucking ground Dwyer. You're not Lennox Lewis. Nobody boxes anymore.
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[Feb 15,2009 10:49pm - goatcatalyst ""]
Let's get to the important part: RING GIRLS...
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[Feb 15,2009 10:55pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
Dwyer just sounds lazy as hell. Niccolai would make mince meat of him.
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[Feb 15,2009 10:56pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
still got a dime on dwyer if you want to take that bet
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[Feb 15,2009 10:59pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
Why, because he's tall? Kick him in the knees and he's done.
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[Feb 15,2009 11:01pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
if you're so sure take the bet.

TAKE THE BET OR YOURE A PUSSY.
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[Feb 15,2009 11:04pm - niccolai ""]
I honestly have no idea how tall dwyer is.

I just know we're aprox the same weight. I'm 5'10
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[Feb 15,2009 11:06pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
I'm about 5' 10" - 11" and I remember Dwyer being at least 2-3 inches taller than me but I could be wrong.
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[Feb 15,2009 11:38pm - Beorht-Dana ""]
I'm surprised betting hasn't started yet.

Most people seem to think Niccolai would win. I'll give someone 10 to 1 odds on Dwyer winning. Who wants in?
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[Feb 15,2009 11:38pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]

Beorht-Dana said:I'm surprised betting hasn't started yet.

Most people seem to think Niccolai would win. I'll give someone 10 to 1 odds on Dwyer winning. Who wants in?




whiskey_weed_and_women said:if you're so sure take the bet.

TAKE THE BET OR YOURE A PUSSY.

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[Feb 15,2009 11:45pm - Beorht-Dana ""]
Missed that one.
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[Feb 16,2009 12:01am - pam ""]
GROUND AND POUND OR YOU ARE A PUSSY.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:24am - The Revealer  ""]
That's what she said.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:29am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]

pam said:YOU ARE A PUSSY.


Damn right, i am what i eat!

I'm 6'1" and as of today down to 204... 190 is my aim, but we'll see...

Boxing is good enough!

I'm 39 next month, go roll around with guys your age, like you usually do on the weekends.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:34am - RichHorror ""]
I miss the Ground Round. Good eats.
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[Feb 16,2009 1:54am - sxealex ""]
wtf is that crazy building thats going there?
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[Feb 16,2009 10:31am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Leonardo Leonardo's secret lair.
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[Feb 16,2009 11:21am - ouchdrummer ""]
I want in on this... i think i would do some MMA thing with someone. (where my mixed martial arts would be a yellow belt w/one brown stripe in Aiki Ju-Jitsu, and a blue in karate. I think that makes me a combined green belt.. or something... right? I'd really prefer not to know the person i would be fighting though. I can't hit people i like, i would get creamed.
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[Feb 16,2009 12:41pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
I've got twenty bucks on absolutely nothing happening. Who wants in on this action?
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[Feb 16,2009 12:44pm - W3nli  ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:I've got twenty bucks on absolutely nothing happening. Who wants in on this action?


oh shit
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[Feb 16,2009 1:19pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
I am inclined to agree that this fight will never happen.

Any takers on what Dwyer will die of in his old age?
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[Feb 16,2009 1:32pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
I'm not the one backing down, am I?
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[Feb 16,2009 1:33pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
You're refusing to fight on the ground. If you're such in shape these days, why won't you do it?
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[Feb 16,2009 2:07pm - scumfuck ""]

AUTOPSY_666 said:I'm not the one backing down, am I?



its ok to be scared, everyone gets scared sometimes
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[Feb 16,2009 9:56pm - ouchdrummer ""]
lamo. fighting's fun.
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[Feb 17,2009 12:12am - xmikex ""]

ouchdrummer said:I want in on this... i think i would do some MMA thing with someone. (where my mixed martial arts would be a yellow belt w/one brown stripe in Aiki Ju-Jitsu, and a blue in karate. I think that makes me a combined green belt.. or something... right? I'd really prefer not to know the person i would be fighting though. I can't hit people i like, i would get creamed.


What discipline karate are we talking here?

If we had someone else with a decent grappling background it might make for a decent fight.
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[Feb 17,2009 12:37am - Martins ""]
I'd fight Ouchie. He's a mosh ninja. I'm a first degree blackbelt in a freestyle form of karate. We're pretty much even. Plus, I want to kiss him.
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[Feb 17,2009 1:07am - dftg  ""]

xmikex said:
ouchdrummer said:I want in on this... i think i would do some MMA thing with someone. (where my mixed martial arts would be a yellow belt w/one brown stripe in Aiki Ju-Jitsu, and a blue in karate. I think that makes me a combined green belt.. or something... right? I'd really prefer not to know the person i would be fighting though. I can't hit people i like, i would get creamed.


What discipline karate are we talking here?

If we had someone else with a decent grappling background it might make for a decent fight.



Where does somebody learn grappling/wrestling/ground fighting?
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[Feb 17,2009 1:28am - Martins ""]
There are forms of martial arts that are mostly ground fighting. Personally, I think ground fighting is more devastating. Armbars or wrist locks can end someone's masturbating career.
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[Feb 17,2009 1:34am - dftg  ""]
that would suck for professional masturbators
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[Feb 17,2009 3:02am - douchebag_patrol ""]
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[Feb 17,2009 12:07pm - xmikex ""]

dftg said:
Where does somebody learn grappling/wrestling/ground fighting?



Any decent school that teaches BJJ.
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[Feb 17,2009 1:32pm - ouchdrummer ""]
shotokan karate. But i really didn't learn very much. The only reason i would do this is because i've gotten beat up plenty so I really have nothing to lose..... and fightings just fun, who are we kidding here, we're all overgrown little boys who still want to kick the crap outta each other for fun.
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[Feb 17,2009 1:33pm - aril  ""]
Organized fighting methods are weak and for the weak-minded.
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[Feb 17,2009 4:01pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Pish-tosh. I'll be using this:

BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting Arts
Welcome to the web site of BERZERKER™ VIKING FIGHTING ARTS!

The BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting system is the best, the deadliest and the most brutal combat system ever invented by man. It's the world's ultimate fighting system for military, police, special forces and civilians.

The system - which encompasses both armed and unarmed combat - makes it possible for anyone to handle any kind of combat situation - and always win! In BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting you learn how to defeat anyone, anytime, anywhere, anyhow!

The brutally effective techniques, tactics and strategies in BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting can be used by military personnel, law enforcement officers, anti-terrorist groups, intelligence agents, mixed martial artists, and civilians. Anyone can benefit by training in BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting, whether it's to learn practical street self-defense and combat tactics, or just to supplement your existing, less effective martial arts style.

Among other things, the BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting system includes:

* Unarmed Viking Combatives
* Knife & Projectiles
* Warhammer & Battle Axe
* Sword & Shield
* Staff, Stick, Baton & Spear
* Improvised Weapons
* Viking Battlefield & Raiding Tactics


BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting is without a doubt the most advanced hand-to-hand combat system in the world today. The system is an ancient - but modern - eclectic fighting system utilizing only the best and most effective techniques and fighting strategies employed by the Viking Berzerkers.

The Berzerkers (or Berzerks) were Norse warriors who had sworn allegiance to the god Thor and worked themselves into murderous fury before a battle. Berzerkers fought with crazed or drugged strength, heedless of danger. They worked themselves up into a bloodlust – berzerker rage – before battles, banging their helmets with their weapons, biting their shields, and howling. They were said to be immune to pain (or even immune to weapons) in battle. In their fury they would attack their enemies but also everything else in their path, sometimes even their own people and allies. Many northern kings used berzerkers as part of their army of hirthmen and in their royal bodyguard.

The brutal fighting arts employed by the berzerkers were handed down from father to son through the generations. Unfortunately, after centuries of great warfare and raiding, the berzerker culture started to wane. The berzerkers stayed known as long as they kept their Viking faith, but when they slowly but safely started to become christians, they soon became one with the united, and more peaceful, christian Europe.

However, elements of the old faith and the secret fighting arts remained - and have been kept alive until this very day by a small but dedicated group of extraordinary men. Today, these arts are known as BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting Arts, and they are still being taught to select individuals by the last BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting Supreme Grandmaster and Inheritor of the Horned Helmet, Grandmaster Sven S. Svensson.

"Oh Lord, save us from the rage of the Nordic people" -- Common prayer in the French churches during the Viking Age
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[Feb 17,2009 4:02pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
LOL
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[Feb 17,2009 4:02pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
AN INTERVIEW WITH THE BERZERKER GRANDMASTER

This is an interview with the last BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting Supreme Grandmaster and Inheritor of the Horned Helmet, Grandmaster Sven S. Svensson. The interview was conducted by Leif "Mad Moose" Svensson in January, 2005.

Leif "Mad Moose" Svensson (LS): Hello, Grandmaster Sven!

Grandmaster Sven S. Svensson (SS): Hello everybody – and Hail Thor!

LS: First of all, thank you so much for letting us interview you! Could you please start by telling us a little about the BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting Arts? What is it exactly?

SS: No problem! BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting is the best combat system in the world! I don't think there's any other martial art or combat system more violent and brutally effective than Viking Fighting. The system comes directly from the ancient Scandinavian Viking Berzerkers and it covers both armed and unarmed fighting. It's a complete system – and it teaches you to win in ANY situation and against ANY opponent!

LS: That sounds great! What are the basic ideas and principles behind the system?

SS: Viking Fighting is basically a very, very violent and very, very dirty style of fighting. The core principles are violence, ruthlessness, surprise, anger, cheating, deception, brutality and pre-emptive action. Everything we do is based on the old Viking saying that "it's better to stand and fight because if you run, you'll only die tired".

LS: OK. What exactly does that mean?

SS: That we don't run... And that we stand and fight. Viking Fighting is 70% attack, 25% counter-attack, and maybe 15% defense. My old father, Thor Svensson, used to say that "defense is what happens when you're about to die". This is very true! The BERZERKER™ mentality is to attack the attacker, kill the killer, mug the mugger, and rape the rapist – so to speak.

LS: So, what categories are taught in the BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting system?

SS: Well, students usually start by learning the warhammer curriculum, because this also teaches you a lot about the principles behind the Viking Fighting Arts. It teaches you the correct body mechanics and the right BERZERKER™ mentality. In parallel with this, you also do a lot of unarmed training, what we usually call "Viking Combatives". You know, punching, kicking, throwing, grappling, breaking bones, biting, headbutting etcetera, etcetera. Later on, you learn how to use knives, blades and throwing weapons, and sticks and swords. And we do a lot of training with improvised weapons. A lot!

LS: Improvised weapons? What is that exactly?

SS: Improvised weapons are common objects that you use as weapons. Golf clubs, pencils, belts, coins, mobile phones, hats, bandanas, chains... You name it. If you knew what I could do to you with a frozen carrot, you'd be very afraid right now.

By the way, I almost forgot to mention that we also study a lot of fight psychology in the BERZERKER™ arts. You know, the psychological aspects of combat, like fear, stress, panic, anger and frenzy. And we also do a lot of training in battlefield and raiding tactics.

LS: Battlefield and raiding tactics? When would that be useful in today's modern world?

SS: All the time! Trust me. Have you never seen a riot or a gang of soccer hooligans at work? Have you never seen a fight between two gangs? And have you never wanted to bring your friends to beat someone up? Raiding tactics is all about beating people up together with your friends. Hmmm... Maybe that came out a little wrong. Hahaha... Well, you know what I mean!

LS: Yes, OK. Speaking of beating people up – you say you can defeat anyone with BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting. Do you really think you can beat any of the professional fighters in the UFC, Pride and K1?

SS: Yes – by Thor! Those guys are just pretty boys in spandex hot pants... They don't know anything about real combat!! In the old days, the berzerkers used to rape guys like that just for fun... I'm joking, but what I really mean is – when was the last time you were attacked by someone dressed in hot pants, wearing leather gloves? And I'm not talking about your wife here! Hahaha...

LS: Well, it hasn't happened yet. So how would you fight a UFC fighter then?

SS: On the street, I'd smash his head in with my warhammer. Or maybe just have my friends surround him and then windmill and stomp him to death.

In a ring, I would cheat. You know – eye gouge, fish hook, hit the throat, bite the groin, stuff like that. A lot of people say that biting doesn't work in combat. Well, ask them again after I've bitten their nuts off! The Vikings used biting a lot – and trust me, it works!

I'd also do a lot of "psychological" stuff. You know – simple mind tricks and "psyching". Fighting him mentally...

LS: You do a lot of training with weapons, like knives, sticks and projectiles. What do you think about the other weapons-based martial arts out there, for example the Filipino fighting systems?

SS: My friend – the only reason the Filipino systems are alive today is because the Vikings never went to the Philippines in the old days. Otherwise they would've been extinct! Don't get me wrong, I've seen some very impressive Filipino stuff out there, but mostly it's just a lot of useless stick twirling! You know, just like those cheerleading girls...

LS: And what about the Japanese styles, such as Ninjutsu or kendo?

SS: Well, the ninjutsu guys I've seen here in Scandinavia probably couldn't even fight their way out of a wet paper bag if their lives depended on it. I like their black pyjamas, though... They look really comfy. Hahaha... But there are some very good ninja guys out there. A very good friend of mine in the United States – we call him "Black Sheep Ninja" – is very, very good! He's also a BERZERKER™ practitioner, by the way.

And what can I say about kendo? Well, nothing good... If I ever get attacked by a screaming guy dressed in a skirt and swinging a bamboo stick, I'll take his head clean off with my warhammer - before he even has time to say "bonsai".

LS: OK. And the Chinese weapon styles?

SS: Man, don't even get me started... The only useful thing invented in China is probably the spring roll. And gunpowder, of course.

LS: You don't seem to think too highly of the other martial arts out there. Is there ANY art – except Viking Fighting – that you actually like?

SS: No, not really... Well, maybe tae kwon do... I like the fact that they’re training so hard to become losers. You know, training how to lose a fight as quickly as possible. That makes it much easier for me, if I ever have to fight one of those clowns. Hahaha...

LS: OK. Could you instead tell us a little about your "modernization" of the Viking Fighting Arts. I'm primarily thinking of your two new courses – the "Tactical Warhammer" and the "Rape the Rapist" course.

SS: Yes. Well, my old father and I have spent a lot of time modernizing the Viking Fighting Arts curriculum – basically adding and updating material for the 21st century. Don't get me wrong, though. Most of the techniques, tactics, strategies and principles in Viking Fighting are timeless. They are the same today as they were in the Viking Age. But some things have changed, obviously. Today we have firearms, we have a police force that can't use "excessive force", we have a need for so-called "rape prevention" etcetera, etcetera. To meet these demands, we had to update and modernize the system and add a couple of new modules to the curriculum. The "Tactical Warhammer" and the "Rape the Rapist" are two of the new modules. "Viking Gun Fighting", "Viking Gun Defense" and "Mug the Mugger" are also new. My father also introduced a "Tactical Spear" course, but, unfortunately, the interest hasn't been that great for that course. It's very good, though.

LS: So tell us a little about the "Tactical Warhammer" module? You’ve been very busy teaching this module at seminars lately. What is it exactly?

SS: The "Tactical Warhammer" curriculum is a modernized version of our warhammer and battle axe curriculum specifically aimed at law enforcement, correctional facilities and the military. It teaches you how to use a warhammer – or a sledgehammer, hammer or even a short golf club – for self-defense and for tactical purposes.

In Viking Fighting we have a saying that "there's no such thing as excessive force". Excessive force is a good thing! But, unfortunately, we can't teach this to law enforcement officers and security guards. Well, at least not here in Sweden... But you should've seen some of the stuff my father taught to the Iraqi Police force in the eighties! Don't tell Amnesty International about it, but that stuff was pretty damned brutal. If the Swedish police force got that kind of training, then we'd have no crime whatsover! Well, anyway, for the more civilized parts of the world, we've designed a "friendlier" version of our warhammer course, where we have limited the amount of force used. It is also specifically designed with law enforcement scenarios in mind. You know, things like riot control, handcuffing, defending against the knife etcetera, etcetera.

LS: OK. That sounds like an awesome course! Well, thank you for letting us talk to you, Grandmaster Sven!

SS: I'd just like to say a few words about our "Rape the Rapist" program too, if I may.

LS: Please do.

SS: The "Rape the Rapist" course is probably the best rape prevention course in the world today. At least I've never seen anything better. It's based on the BERZERKER™ concept to "attack the attacker" – hence the name – and, by Thor, it's pretty damned hardcore! I actually feel sorry for any rapist who'd experience the stuff we teach in this module! You know, we've included a lot of eye gouging, biting, finger breaking, fish hooking in this course. And a lot of improvised weapons too. You know, it's pretty damned difficult to rape someone when your nuts have just been skewered by a pencil... That's a pretty strong turn-off in my world – even for a Viking! Hahaha...

People often say that "to teach knife defense, you must first know how to use a knife". It's the same with rape; to defeat the rapist, you must first learn to think and act like a rapist. And if you know anything about the Vikings you know that they did A LOT of raping and pillaging in the old days. This is, of course, not something we're proud of - but now we've been able to turn this into something good. So, any woman – or man, for that matter – who worries about getting raped, come to our seminars or buy our forthcoming DVD! You'll never be afraid of rape again. You can put that in your Viking pipe and smoke it! Hahaha...

LS: OK. Thank you very much for the interview, Grandmaster Sven! Now we know a little more about the BERZERKER™ Viking Fighting Arts.

SS: Thank you, my BERZERKER™ friend! I hope to see you all at my next seminar! And Hail Thor!

To contact Grandmaster Sven S. Svensson, please mail us!
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[Feb 17,2009 4:03pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
LOL @ "Rape the Rapist"
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[Feb 17,2009 4:04pm - ouchdrummer ""]
oh my odin.
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[Feb 17,2009 5:33pm - Joshtruction ""]
I might be up for an undercard match ;)

EDIT: I am serious about that too. I'd probably be down for it.
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[Feb 17,2009 6:37pm - JDDomination ""]
I'd also be up for this. 6'3" about 220. Kinda Chuck Liddell build. I'd probably be more of a wrestler but I can take a hit. Post any developments on this!!
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[Feb 17,2009 6:45pm - Joshtruction ""]
I am not sure where I will weigh in for the fight, but right now I am at 255. 6 feet even. Whats your reach JDDomination?
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[Feb 17,2009 7:21pm - goatcatalyst ""]
"The only useful thing invented in China is probably the spring roll."

Hail Thor!
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[Feb 17,2009 7:49pm - JDDomination ""]
approx. 28" reach. I'm not sure where I should be measuring from. That's end of shoulder to tip of finger.
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[Feb 17,2009 7:55pm - Joshtruction ""]

JDDomination said:approx. 28" reach. I'm not sure where I should be measuring from. That's end of shoulder to tip of finger.


spread your arms as far apart as possible and from the tip of your middle finger to the other middle finger across your back. Should probably be somewhere from 65-80. Probably mid to low 70's depending on your build.
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[Feb 17,2009 7:59pm - JDDomination ""]
73" thanks for the proper way to measure it

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