If you voted for Obama[views:23348][posts:178]_________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 11:04am - zyklon ""] I just said he invaded a country who had nothing to do with the war on terror, isn't that enough? |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 11:08am - Conservationist ""] zyklon said:I just said he invaded a country who had nothing to do with the war on terror, isn't that enough? I don't think that's true. Iraq shows up a lot in the places where anti-American guerrillas ("terrorists") stayed and found funding. It was also much of a figurehead in the fight against Israel. So Bush took them out, and now... well, we haven't heard much from al-Qaeda, have we? |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 11:57am - mattkings ""] Fuck Bush too. |
| _____________________________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 12:15pm - aril on the commuter rail ""] I will chime in now, I guess. Hopefully this isn't too long - I'm on the train and there's nothing else to do (other than stare at this girls boobs across from me). Normally I don't like discussing politics anymore for the sole reason that I feel we have not had a solid, truthful president for a very long time. I'm telling you right now that the founding fathers would be disgusted by a lot of the things that are presently going on in this country. But, alas, I don't really like to think like that. We live in a globalized society these days, much different than say, 100 years ago. Globalization is still in its infancy stages, and I think the people in "power" are handling it horribly wrong. Everywhere you look, greed and corruption dominates; it's part of our human nature. That is something that we cannot escape and it will always be dragging us down. We need some sort of global awakening, but not in the sense of another 9/11. With regards to that - and I know it's a touchy subject for some - I honestly think 9/11 was an inside job. Do I think Bush masterminded it? Absolutely not. The dude is washed-up. Do I think he knew about it? Of course. There are too many unanswered questions regarding that whole day, and most of them strike me as a little fishy. I don't want to go into great detail about my thoughts on that day, but I'm only mentioning it because I sincerely feel like we were back stabbed by our own government (and others). Typing about it on the internet is pretty lame compared to what I actually could be doing. I sincerely wish I had the time and willpower to actually do something about it. Anyway, this country is going down the shitter right now. And it's not any citizens' fault. We're all hardworking Americans that want to live the American dream. But why do we have to suffer when it comes to certain aspects of life? Why is it that more than half of the world lives on less than $1 a day? I don't think it's something on a micro-level. Again, it goes back to globalization. We are united as being Homo Sapiens Sapiens - we're all the same species regardless of what our IQ is or anything like that. I completely understand Conservationist's point of view about that stuff, but from a scientific standpoint we are all the same race and species, anyway you hold it in the light. I am very worried about the future of our species as a whole and believe that we are at a point in our history where something big has to happen. What does this have to do with politics? Well, it has to do with it for a numbers of reasons. As civilized humans, we've put our faith in our governments and our countries. The people we elect are the people that represent the country, regardless of what political affiliation we are. I won't vote for a president because they're a republican or democrat, but would vote for them as an honest human being who knows how to lead. Sadly, for my whole life, I've never witnessed any leader we've had that is honest. POLITICIANS AREN'T HONEST PEOPLE. Globally speaking, it is - was - America's duty to be the role model for the rest of the world. We are a very powerful country and have some of the best, brightest, and hardworking people in the world. It's hard for me to admit this, because I generally hate other people and am ashamed to even be alive at times. Sometimes I wish I was living as a barbarian in a tribal society living off the land. In fact, that is why I like going to the woods and such. As I said, I'm a very proud American, but I absolutely hate society, and hate how people don't really sit down and think about what is going on. The monetary system DOES NOT work and only puts the rich elite in power. We are all pawns now, living in a globalized society where most of our true freedoms can be taken away from us at any given point. Obama, Bush, Clinton - all of them are true politicians that are revolutionaries. The way things are in this country, in this world, are so ass-backwards that it is not moving the human species forward. We are killing ourselves off day by day, hour by hour. Electing somebody as president does not change much. It goes waaaaaaaay beyond that - it goes to how modern society is. It absolutely disgusts me that everything has a set "value" and money is the only answer. We've let the banks have too much power, we've let the ruling elite dictate our lives, and we've allowed our government to withold information from the general public. Do you really think any president is the answer to our problems? Hell fucking no. Politicians are powerless in the whole scheme of things. We need a global "audit" if you will; something has got to give. Perhaps WWWIII will be the answer and help us move on as a race? Something major has got to happen. I'm sick and fucking tired of being lied to by our phony politicians we elect, and I'm sick and tired of watching our proud species wither away. In fact, maybe that's the real answer. I don't think humanity can look past the greed and corruption which plagues us. We're doomed. I'm finally approaching my train stop, but let me just say one last thing. If you've read it this far, then that's pretty sad. Politicians don't mean anything. Our governments don't mean anything. Next time you're alone, pondering the meaning of life, ask yourselves these questions: Why are humans so fucking stupid. Why do we continue to elect phony people under a now-phony government, in a corrupt world? We need World War III. That's why. |
| _____________________________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 12:20pm - aril on the commuter rail ""] aren't revoluataries* ...if you guys can find that in there. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 12:24pm - Conservationist ""] aril%20on%20the%20commuter%20rail said:Why are humans so fucking stupid. Why do we continue to elect phony people under a now-phony government, in a corrupt world? 1. Personal pretense 2. Poor education 3. Not everyone should be voting All of these go back to a common cause: Belief in equality. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 1:18pm - sxealex ""] aril%20on%20the%20commuter%20rail said:(other than stare at this girls boobs across from me). pix plz |
| _______________________________ [Jul 25,2009 4:03pm - STFU ""] in all honesty anyone you vote for is going to be a phony and be corrupt so it does not matter who you vote for. The only real answer is to change it ourselves. If people would stop being fucktards and open their eyes maybe we could change it but people are too busy thinking mccain wouldve been better when we'd be in the same boat pissed off and blaming mccain and saying obama was the answer. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 4:12pm - PatMeebles ""] I said he'd do better. I didn't say he'd be optimal. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 4:13pm - PatMeebles ""] And why do you think we'd be in the same boat? You think McCain would try to socialize healthcare? Cap n Trade? trillions of stimulus? Raise taxes? Ignore protesters in Iran? |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 4:16pm - RichHorror ""] [img] |
| _______________________________ [Jul 25,2009 4:18pm - STFU ""] maybe because this country is fucked either way neither of them could of been believed to have fixed anything. So arguing about who would be better is a lost cause. A tomato would be just as good an idea. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 4:32pm - PatMeebles ""] When Bush cut taxes in 2003, revenue shot up and the recession of 2001 was reversed, only to be stopped in 2008 when the liberal idea of home ownership for everyone (regardless of ability to pay) caused companies to go bankrupt. Cutting taxes is the only way. I don't say that because I love rich people, but they're the ones that have the means to leave if things get too expensive for them. Maryland recently imposed a new tax on millionaires, and all of sudden a third their millionaires have "disappeared." So much for revenue for social programs. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124329282377252471.html |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 5:27pm - the_reverend ""] bush was wrong, clinton was wrong, obama is wrong, reagan was wrong, carter was wrong, and patmeebles is wrong. if any of us had the right answer, none of us would know for 40+ years. hell, they are still arguing if the revolutionary war was wrong and my american edjewcation tells me that was atleast 40 years ago. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 25,2009 5:38pm - PatMeebles ""] We already know. Kennedy cut taxes in the 60's and revenue skyrocketed and the economy rebounded, just like when Reagan did it in the 80's and Bush in 2003. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 26,2009 2:08am - Lamp ""] [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 26,2009 2:34am - the_reverend ""] PatMeebles said:We already know. Kennedy cut taxes in the 60's and revenue skyrocketed and the economy rebounded, just like when Reagan did it in the 80's and Bush in 2003.If you say so, ok, more ivory backscratchers for the rich! |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 26,2009 2:37am - the_reverend ""] aril%20on%20the%20commuter%20rail said:I'm telling you right now that the founding fathers would be disgusted by a lot of the things that are presently going on in this country. AHAHAHAHA that is the funniest fucking thing. Distance makes the heart grow founder, eh? IRL a lot of the founding fathers where shit bags. History just reads so that they aren't. A lot of them would be disgusted that a negro was in office or that poor people can vote. hilarious. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 26,2009 5:10am - PatMeebles ""] the_reverend said: PatMeebles said:We already know. Kennedy cut taxes in the 60's and revenue skyrocketed and the economy rebounded, just like when Reagan did it in the 80's and Bush in 2003.If you say so, ok, more ivory backscratchers for the rich! Like I said, I didn't think this way because I love rich people. I only want to keep them interested in staying in their current locale then suck all the revenue I can from them while still leaving enough for them to create jobs. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 26,2009 10:53am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] "[Jul 26,2009 5:10am - PatMeebles] I only want to keep them interested in staying in their current locale then suck all the revenue I can from them while still leaving enough for them to create jobs." You're planning on sucking revenue from the rich personally? Cool. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 26,2009 11:10am - the_reverend ""] if this were true, then why is there still debt on the books from the revolutionary war? I do agree that taxcuts can increase revenue some times, tax cuts only work so far. if not, drop taxes to 0 and then the government can't keep the roads paved or darkies from stiealing you bike. right now, plain and simple our country sees to have never been able to actually pay for it's self. NO ONE in the history of this country has done anything, but figure out the how too with the costs of now. and even those are few and far between. usually by luck or technical advances. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 26,2009 11:13am - darkwornli ""] <Turkeyslam> oh man I saw pure gold at lunch, I was sitting near this group of black guys at a table and they all had tucked in shirts and shit, looked educated, I think they were studying calculus or some shit <Turkeyslam> and across from there, there was another table with a bunch of white guys, all ghetto looking, three of them wore fucking grills, sagging pants, and one was playing some 50 cent ringtone or some shit <Turkeyslam> going "yeah boiiii" <Turkeyslam> and one of the black guys in the table next to me muttered "fucking niggers" <Turkeyslam> I choked on my fucking jolt cola |
| _______________________________ [Jul 26,2009 12:42pm - Lamp ""] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 26,2009 1:59pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] that is hilarious... i know if i had been there and seen the two tables i would've called the wiggers niggers too. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 26,2009 4:12pm - ctb0rderpatrol ""] pam said: ctb0rderpatrol said:i for one think abortion legality should be a state issue, not a federal one. if dixie states want a population boom of fail babies, or a population drain of whores who think abortion is a good form of birth control, so be it. who are we to say they shouldnt decide that? There's so much ignorance and assumption in that statement it's amazing. thanks. im not pro-life btw, i just dont think its mine or your place to decide what people 1000+ miles away from me should or shouldnt do. we got enough problems right in our own backyard to worry about what laws some backwater state in the south decides to pass. just sayin |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 26,2009 4:18pm - BobNOMAAMROoney ""] Or abortion could be the decision of the individual, rather than an entire city, state or nation. Shit, most issues would be better taken care of on an individual basis |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 26,2009 4:23pm - ctb0rderpatrol ""] nicrattlehead said:Why am I pwned? Because his economic stimulus package has showed itself to be somewhat effective, and economic experts are expecting a turnaround in the next year? Because his original plan, which was hacked by the senate of course i love how people champion the "stimulous" packages as if they are long term and not of chinese held debt. guess whos payin for this stimulous? oh yeah, and who originally pushed for bailouts? it wasnt obama! |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 26,2009 4:25pm - ctb0rderpatrol ""] BobNOMAAMROoney said:Or abortion could be the decision of the individual, rather than an entire city, state or nation. Shit, most issues would be better taken care of on an individual basis honestly, for many abortion should be mandatory to counter the dumbing down of the gene pool. but then we're trampling on "rights" |
| ________________________________ [Jul 26,2009 5:47pm - Burnsy ""] Bailouts are bullshit. This is a capitalist country. Let them fail. It's all a result of the banks having too much influence. These people on wall street are "brilliant" when the market is on the rise and when the market is failing, it's not their fault... it's the market. |