Nick of Silver[views:19039][posts:190]_________________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 2:56pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] the mispellings on the names are great, it proves they actually were there when this was written! oh no wait it doesn't |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 2:57pm - Geraldo_Rivera ""] RichHorror said:Does anyone have phone numbers for these ladies? I'd like to organize a meeting with each one to sanely and maturely open the lines of discussion and debate on this issue. I am so alone. fuck brids. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 2:57pm - RichHorror ""] Seeing Jeff Hall associated with this witch hunt is the least shocking thing of all time. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 2:58pm - the_reverend ""] the US judicial system is awesome! Guilty until proven innocent has gotten reigned supreme in the past 15 years. forget that innocent until proven guilty. that's soooo 18th century. |
| ______________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:06pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] I will never get tired of posting this in threads about women [img] |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:07pm - dwellingsickness ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:I doubt anyone else accused of raping someone by a group of people without a police investigation would even consider addressing the issue. He should try and get them for slander or something |
| ______________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:10pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] He definately should, it seriously affects his ability to live his life and he is a private citizen. Private citizens win something like 95% of all slander and libel cases they bring against others. |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:17pm - dreadkill ""] it has gotten to the point of nick not being able to enjoy his hobby of playing shows with his band without having people give him a hard time. everybody involved in this needs to come clean and give nick the opportunity to clear his name. it's not right. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:22pm - anonymous ""] couple of things - if this girl really was raped, and she's out there telling anyone who will listen, maybe she should have reported it and helped prevent it happening to anyone else. second, if I were with a guy and he started jerking off in a trashcan, I'd just walk away...nothing uncomfortable about that. actually, I'd probably just laugh....but it takes a lot to make me uncomfortable.... |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:27pm - dreadkill ""] jerking off in trash cans is awesome and legal. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:34pm - anonymous ""] well, not if it's done in public. pissing in public can get you on the sex offender list as it's indecent exposure. |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:37pm - dreadkill ""] i meant in private |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:38pm - anonymous ""] um, couple of things here - so now everyone is this guy's judge and jury before he's even found guilty? second, someone calls themselves CUNTree club and doesn't see that as being insensitive to women, or something that may make some women feel uncomfortable? |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:41pm - anonymous ""] if this guy hasn't been accused in a court, or she hasn't even filed a report with the police, he's got a great case for civil court. he's got specific comments made here and on the honeypump board to back him up. shit, both boards are open to being sued. y'all are fairly stupid for not locking this shit down and nipping it in the bud until some resolution comes. Not to mention, this girl's "friends" are fucking up any case she does have. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:43pm - anonymous ""] to nick, if you did do these things - change your ways and apologize to this girl. then thank fucking god that you have all this crap to show your lawyer. any good lawyer will be able to spin the shit out of all these posts. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:47pm - anonymous ""] and for those of you boycotting his band, I hope you boycott every other band that has a rapist in it. I don't want to see anyone humming any gary glitter or deicide. |
| __________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 3:56pm - brian_dc ""] calling themselves "Cuntree Club" is actually perfectly cohesive with the feminist movement. Every since Eve Ensler's Vagina Monologues came out, there has been the theme of reclaiming the word "cunt" from negative usage. Nick, I am surprised that they would want to require you to do this after Sunday. It seems that Sunday was supposed to open the door to communication and a step towards resolution of the issue. Again, perhaps not surprisingly, it seems that the goal is more to run your name through the mud. Maybe on some level they hope that it will raise more awareness, but I'm not willing to support that assumption. I'll be at an event tonight where victims of rape tell their stories in public. I think this is an important issue, I've devoted a good deal of my time to supporting rape victims. However, I stand by Nick, happen to believe Nick, and support him. That's just my rant. |
| _________________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:02pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] anonymous - I have changed my ways, and I have apologize (I posted part of that apology above). I've gone through therapy, cleaned up, and this supposedly took play when I was 18. I will be 25 next month. I've made a lot of progress in my life, and though I have never sexually assaulted a woman nor would I ever, it still makes sense to note how far I've come since then. brian - were I not where I am without a car, I would go to something like that to. As you personally know, the sad truth is I am very much in favor of women's rights and freedoms, and also very much against sexual assault on any level. This is sad because even when I try to help out these causes I believe in, these people still try to undermine me. Sunday I had spoken with the promoter about making the show a benefit for a women's shelter, yet these people tried to shut it down anyway. What is their goal?! |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:03pm - anonymous ""] I'm actually a rape survivor. I was gang raped by "friends". With that said, I would never bad mouth one of them in public, or in a public forum. I know they did it, they know they did it. If I saw a female friend getting close to them, perhaps I'd warn her. But, to color everyone, even people they couldn't possibly rape against them? That's not for me to do. Don't judge lest ye be judged or some such garbage. fuck the feminist movement. the word cunt has always been used in a derogatory fashion, it was never a non-derogatory term. there is nothing to reclaim. it's like the ridiculousness of there being good and bad use of the word nigger. |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:04pm - dreadkill ""] i don't support anyone who wants nick to wear a scarlet letter for something he hasn't been convicted of. fuck these people and fuck brids too. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:08pm - anonymous ""] Nick, I'm glad you've gotten yourself cleaned up and gone through therapy. Perhaps this girl needs some therapy to let go and move on. I wear my rape like a badge now - learn from it, help others. It has nothing to do with the guys who raped me, they don't get to be that important. It's inconsequential who they are. Sometimes the best you can do is say "you know, I didn't think I was assaulting you, I'm sorry that's how you felt...I'm sorry I hurt you, I didn't set out to". She doesn't ever have to forgive you, but, she shouldn't be trying forever to hurt you either. Two wrongs don't make a right. Shit, I'd be ecstatic if any of the guys in my instance recognized they did wrong, never mind apologize for it. Not that I need it now, but, it wouldn't hurt. |
| ________________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:13pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] i just wanna say cake rules |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:22pm - RichHorror ""] I was raped by brids as a young girl. |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:23pm - dreadkill ""] RichHorror said:I was raped by brids as a young girl. by brids, do you mean me? |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:24pm - RichHorror ""] That ah... is exactly what I typed. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:28pm - anonymous ""] and talk about hypocrisy, there is someone on here that always busts Nick for being a rapist but he himself writes songs about rape being funny. if anything is going to be boycotted, don't you think a group perpetuating the misogyny that sometimes supports these guys thinking it's their right to assault women a good place to start? not all rapists are nature, some surely are nurture - goaded on by people with similar ideology. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:29pm - RichHorror ""] I never bust on Nick for being a rapist. |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:32pm - Geraldo_Rivera ""] Richard Horror was raped by brids when he was a young girl. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:34pm - RichHorror ""] Truth. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:35pm - RichHorror ""] You know, its not always Richard Horror that gets raped. Sometimes, it's the nuns. |
| _________________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:38pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] anonymous said:Nick, I'm glad you've gotten yourself cleaned up and gone through therapy. Perhaps this girl needs some therapy to let go and move on. I wear my rape like a badge now - learn from it, help others. It has nothing to do with the guys who raped me, they don't get to be that important. It's inconsequential who they are. Sometimes the best you can do is say "you know, I didn't think I was assaulting you, I'm sorry that's how you felt...I'm sorry I hurt you, I didn't set out to". She doesn't ever have to forgive you, but, she shouldn't be trying forever to hurt you either. Two wrongs don't make a right. Shit, I'd be ecstatic if any of the guys in my instance recognized they did wrong, never mind apologize for it. Not that I need it now, but, it wouldn't hurt. I will write something like that ASAP, thank you for the advice. That is very close to how I feel and what I think is worth reiterating. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:47pm - anonymous ""] I just wish I knew this girl - if she really was violated, and this is how she is reacting years later, it's time for her to find some peace. she needs counseling that she obviously never got. If she wasn't really violated, I'd tell her to stop being such a cunt. I had friends in college who were "date raped" every weekend when they got drunk. Remorseful for sleeping around was more like it. I was always saying "why don't you report it?" or "why do you continue to get drunk to blackout then?" As a rape survivor, it made me crazy. It wasn't my fault that I was raped, but I didn't help matters by getting as drunk as I did, and frankly, they never tried that shit the thousand times I hung out with them sober. You can't just expect people to do the right thing. somewhere you need to take responsibility for yourself. fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, right? |
| __________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:50pm - brian_dc ""] I agree but think it has to go both ways. Women need to get educated on the risks, and guys need to get educated about rape. Not the way they do now. Everytime people talk about rape to guys it's like...watch out, don't do this because you might get caught. It never addresses that it's not ok to do the action. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:52pm - RichHorror ""] I go both ways. |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:56pm - dreadkill ""] i knew that was coming. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 4:58pm - RichHorror ""] Mmmmmmmmmmmm. |
| _______________________________ [Apr 27,2006 5:00pm - Murph ""] If you read that list, there's a person with the last name Banghart. I can almost bet he's the one responsible for this incredulous shit. Kill him. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 5:06pm - anonymous ""] I agree with the education thing. Wholeheartedly. This guy seems remorseful that he hurt someone, intentional or not. He seems open to all sorts of suggestion about educating himself or getting counseling. In my view, that's actually more meaningful an outcome than getting a guy thrown in jail where he'll learn nothing, get no counselling and just grow more resentful and violent. |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 5:14pm - Geraldo_Rivera ""] Richard just admitted that he goes both ways. on the internet. internet = truth |
| ______________________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 5:15pm - The Voice of Reason ""] 1. If he did indeed do it then either press charges or castrate him. Talking shit will not settle this. 2. Nick you should sue if the incident never happened. 3. Kok, I am sorry to break it to you bud, but she does not have the power to PROSECUTE. Only the DA's office can do that. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 27,2006 5:17pm - KeithMutiny ""] Im looking at this from a completely outside view, i know who all the people involved are, but personally have nothing to do with it, and to be honest... It seems to me that nick is innocent. soley based on the "trial" that seems to be unfolding. And as for people starting shit and even deciding nick needed a trial, FUCK YOU, seriously, go fucking find something else to amuze yourself. Its none of your buisness, no matter which side your friends with. Get your fuckin face out of peoples lives, if she was so fuckin hurt by this alleged rape, then she can fucking say something, and do something, about it. Im so fucking sick of fucking hearing this shit, shut the fuck up. |