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the official FUCK OFF NOWADAYS BLACK METAL thread

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[Aug 22,2012 11:34am - trioxin245 ""]
Black metal wasn't always wimpy ass indy rock kids writing 11 minute songs about twigs and berries and shit. There was a time where it was just as extreme as any other genre. Here are some examples to remind us of the days when hearing someone utter the words 'black metal' when describing a band didn't immediately make you write them off forever.



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bennyhillifier


the point is, there was a time when black metal didn't immediately conjure forth images of limp-wristed faggots in plaid shirts.

FUCK OFF NOWADAYS BLACK METAL
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[Aug 22,2012 11:36am - arilliusbm ""]
First.

And thanks.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:37am - arilliusbm ""]
Although I'm in a "twigs and berries" band, I agree.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:37am - trioxin245 ""]

arilliusbm said:Although I'm in a "twigs and berries" band, I agree.

you know what I meant.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:39am - arilliusbm ""]
Aesthetics and fuck you attitude.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:44am - trioxin245 ""]
and it's not to say that there aren't ANY quality BM bands these days. For example:



bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier





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[Aug 22,2012 11:47am - WEAKLING  ""]
HI GUYS. WE RELEASED THE FIRST, BUT WIDELY ACCEPTED CLASSIC, LIMP WRISTED BLACK METAL ALBUM 12 YEARS AGO. U MAD BRO.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:50am - KEVORD ""]
I support this thread.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:52am - arilliusbm ""]
I'm a fan of Alcest and the like, but not once would I consider them "black metal." The genre has already done everything it could, so bands are taking the black metal sound and mixing it with other styles. it's something I've learned to accept. That being said, <insert comment about 90s black metal here >
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[Aug 22,2012 11:53am - iteY  ""]
BWACK
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[Aug 22,2012 11:55am - iteY  ""]

arilliusbm said:I'm a fan of Alcest and the like, but not once would I consider them "black metal." The genre has already done everything it could, so bands are taking the black metal sound and mixing it with other styles. it's something I've learned to accept. That being said, <insert comment about 90s black metal here >


i disagree. the genre still has a lot to offer, it just has to be tapped into. nowadays bwack metallers are just sissies.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:56am - Baneard Stevens  ""]
inverticrux is better than every band in this thread, we are the most original and frightening of all.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:56am - trioxin245 ""]
Revenge is an excellent example of what I'm talking about here. Instead of doing what nowadays 'black metal' bands are doing and taking the style and making it LESS extreme in order to keep it 'original,' Revenge came along and make it MORE extreme.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:56am - MikeOv  ""]
This is why I appreciate Blut Aus Nord. The project began with a more traditional black metal approach, but over the years he's been able to tranform his sound while still remaining relevant. His playing style is unorthodox yet he's taken the genre to the place it was meant to go. Logical progression; black metal for the 21st century, indeed.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:57am - Alx_Casket ""]
Isn't this why the "post-black metal" label was created? So that both the sound and visual styles wouldn't get lumped into the same pile? Not the best solution, but there's never going to be a clear end to genre differentiation.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:57am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Fuck off post-1969adays black metal


bennyhillifier
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[Aug 22,2012 11:58am - arilliusbm ""]

MikeOv said:This is why I appreciate Blut Aus Nord. The project began with a more traditional black metal approach, but over the years he's been able to tranform his sound while still remaining relevant. His playing style is unorthodox yet he's taken the genre to the place it was meant to go. Logical progression; black metal for the 21st century, indeed.


YUP
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[Aug 22,2012 11:58am - Spence ""]
The only black metal I really ever listen to is depressive black metal like Silencer, Shining, Svarti Loghin, etc.

I don't know if this meets Trioxin's expectations or if it's twigs bm.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:58am - MikeOv  ""]
transform, rather
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[Aug 22,2012 11:59am - iteY  ""]
blech to that. keep it primitive or call it something else.
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[Aug 22,2012 11:59am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Svarti Loghin put out a Pearl Jam record with harsh vocals, girlfriend metal, do not support.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:00pm - trioxin245 ""]

MikeOv said:This is why I appreciate Blut Aus Nord. The project began with a more traditional black metal approach, but over the years he's been able to tranform his sound while still remaining relevant. His playing style is unorthodox yet he's taken the genre to the place it was meant to go. Logical progression; black metal for the 21st century, indeed.


agreed 100%.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:00pm - ark  ""]
everybody just shut the hell up and keep posting videos please!
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[Aug 22,2012 12:00pm - Spence ""]

BobNOMAAMRooney%20nli said:Svarti Loghin put out a Beatles record with harsh vocals, girlfriend metal, do not support.


There you go.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:01pm - trioxin245 ""]

Alx_Casket said:Isn't this why the "post-black metal" label was created? So that both the sound and visual styles wouldn't get lumped into the same pile? Not the best solution, but there's never going to be a clear end to genre differentiation.


yes, but (despite the offputting thread title) I meant this thread more as a means to remember the extreme black metal of past years, rather than to bitch about the state of the genre of nowadays.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:04pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]

bennyhillifier
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[Aug 22,2012 12:07pm - arilliusbm ""]

ark said:everybody just shut the hell up and keep posting videos please!


I would but I'm on my phone.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:07pm - trioxin245 ""]

ark said:everybody just shut the hell up and keep posting videos please!




bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier



bennyhillifier

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[Aug 22,2012 12:08pm - Alx_Casket ""]

trioxin245 said:
Alx_Casket said:Isn't this why the "post-black metal" label was created? So that both the sound and visual styles wouldn't get lumped into the same pile? Not the best solution, but there's never going to be a clear end to genre differentiation.


yes, but (despite the offputting thread title) I meant this thread more as a means to remember the extreme black metal of past years, rather than to bitch about the state of the genre of nowadays.



Oh. The thread title seemed like it was a thread shitting on NPRBM.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:09pm - trioxin245 ""]

Alx_Casket said:
trioxin245 said:
Alx_Casket said:Isn't this why the "post-black metal" label was created? So that both the sound and visual styles wouldn't get lumped into the same pile? Not the best solution, but there's never going to be a clear end to genre differentiation.


yes, but (despite the offputting thread title) I meant this thread more as a means to remember the extreme black metal of past years, rather than to bitch about the state of the genre of nowadays.



Oh. The thread title seemed like it was a thread shitting on NPRBM.



It is, but rather than bitching, I'm just going to post examples of bands who shit on it.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:10pm - arilliusbm ""]
I posted Mysticum on fagbook the other day and the only person that liked it was Mooney and everyone else made fun of the name. Fo shame.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:11pm - AndrewBastard ""]
i really like that Weakling album

funny this thread is named after a Nargaroth album.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:12pm - arilliusbm ""]
It is a good album (Weakling).

Nargaroth? Theyve been black metal for 86 years.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:12pm - Alx_Casket ""]
rttp circle ov tyrants up in here
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[Aug 22,2012 12:12pm - Burnsy ""]
Yeah, killer riffage on that weakling album. Curious as to how it's "limp wristed."
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[Aug 22,2012 12:15pm - arilliusbm ""]
It's regarded as one of the first "hipster" black metal albums if you want to get ignorant.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:15pm - trioxin245 ""]
that weakling album is good stuff. Who said it was limp wristed?
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[Aug 22,2012 12:15pm - trioxin245 ""]

arilliusbm said:It's regarded as one of the first "hipster" black metal albums if you want to get ignorant.


yea, by the 2003 FMP board haha
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[Aug 22,2012 12:15pm - AndrewBastard ""]
dude does Dispirit now but they dont have any legit releases...seem them at RoD III and they were pretty sick

www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8UUgREMrk4
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[Aug 22,2012 12:16pm - TheTacoBellBell ""]
BONG
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[Aug 22,2012 12:16pm - trioxin245 ""]
also, how could I forget New England's very own Witch Tomb?



bennyhillifier
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[Aug 22,2012 12:17pm - arilliusbm ""]
THE FUCKING CHAMPS
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[Aug 22,2012 12:17pm - Burnsy ""]

trioxin245 said: Who said it was limp wristed?

The weakling troll haha.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:18pm - arilliusbm ""]
Weakling album, what WiTTR wants to be when they arent listening to Drudkh.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:22pm - KEVORD ""]

trioxin245 said:Revenge is an excellent example of what I'm talking about here. Instead of doing what nowadays 'black metal' bands are doing and taking the style and making it LESS extreme in order to keep it 'original,' Revenge came along and make it MORE extreme.
Revenge Suck. I no longer support this thread.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:25pm - trioxin245 ""]
Suit yourself. I'll take "Victory.Intolerance.Mastery" over KEVORD any day.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:26pm - Czarnobog ""]
i'm pretty much on the same page as ross as far as the kind of black metal i like (shitty, fast, chaotic, raw, etc) but i don't get too worked up about all the watered-down ambient/artsy crap out there these days. i just don't listen to it and don't support the bands who play it. its a trend and it will pass. there's still plenty of good bands out there to be found who "keep it real" or at least don't give a fuck about mass appeal.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:26pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

Alx_Casket said:Isn't this why the "post-black metal" label was created? So that both the sound and visual styles wouldn't get lumped into the same pile? Not the best solution, but there's never going to be a clear end to genre differentiation.


"post-black metal" as a label is for a) music journalists and b) art school douches who think they can listen to a genre for 5 minutes and then "progress" it. (do a manifesto about it)
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[Aug 22,2012 12:27pm - MikeOv  ""]

arilliusbm said:I'm a fan of Alcest and the like, but not once would I consider them "black metal." The genre has already done everything it could, so bands are taking the black metal sound and mixing it with other styles. it's something I've learned to accept. That being said, <insert comment about 90s black metal here >


I have my opinions and ideas of what constitutes as black metal, for me. I tend not to care what Decibel, a blog, or posters on a forum have to say about it. Arguing about it just gets so old. I've had many years to discern what qualities I enjoy about black metal, and it basically boils down to aesthetics.

I'll go on record as saying that Neige is a particular artist who's work I tend to greet with anticipation.
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[Aug 22,2012 12:27pm - goatcatalyst ""]
That's why I listen to Trust. Blackest album of the year right here ...

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