the official FUCK OFF NOWADAYS BLACK METAL thread[views:45697][posts:201]____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 10:13am - Czarnobog ""] pfft, you twig & berry black metal hicks don't know shit about unbridled nihilism and misanthropic hatred for the human race. try being stuck on the 66 bus from roxbury to allston during rush hour traffic a few times a week then get back to me. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 10:16am - arilliusbm ""] lollll. MOVE NACHZEHRER TO HANSON |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 10:19am - arilliusbm ""] Everytime I'm in the city, I hate people more and more. At least in the financial district. Bunch of workerbees and drones. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 10:23am - Czarnobog ""] arilliusbm said:lollll. MOVE NACHZEHRER TO HANSON fuck that. i might have the swampy bog water flowing through my veins, but no way would i ever move back there. |
| _________________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 10:24am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Czarnobog said:pfft, you twig & berry black metal hicks don't know shit about unbridled nihilism and misanthropic hatred for the human race. try being stuck on the 66 bus from roxbury to allston during rush hour traffic a few times a week then get back to me. I can confirm this. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 10:24am - Czarnobog ""] arilliusbm said:Everytime I'm in the city, I hate people more and more. At least in the financial district. Bunch of workerbees and drones. those aren't real people. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 10:27am - arilliusbm ""] Commuting is the worst. You know what? Fuck it. You city guys have more hatred than anyone else. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 23,2012 10:40am - Yeti ""] yeah i can't agree with you on the city thing. living in the city made me a hateful and angry person. now that i live in an area with crickets i'm much more relaxed. living in the woods you get dreamier music like Walknut, living in the city you get machine-like industrial like Godflesh. and yes i'm well aware they have nothing in common. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 10:46am - arilliusbm ""] You nailed it with Godflesh. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 11:08am - trioxin245 ""] Anyway to get back on topic, I got into black metal because of dirty, mean shit like this, not because of some silly pseudo-intellectual ethos about a style of music that was essentially started by a bunch of teenagers. bennyhillifier bennyhillifier bennyhillifier I'm aware that BMoA isn't exactly BM, but it's still relevant to this thread, because every time I listen to that tape or 7", all I can think of is 'man, nowadays black metal is for FAGGOTS.' |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 11:21am - arilliusbm ""] Ethos and aesthetics are usually valid for discussion as the genre is so broad now, but I see what your point is. The one album that made me really want to rip my skin off when I was younger: bennyhillifier |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 11:24am - arilliusbm ""] I wish I was on a computer. Embedding is suck a painstaking process. I will add to this thread when I get home, if I remember |
| _____________________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 11:41am - andrewbastard nli ""] Yeti said:Blasphemy is My Throne. per your recommendation. So good. I'm the only one that loves that Pest over swe and ger pests...though swe is a close 2nd although they're completely different styles. I can't get into that german pest. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 11:46am - arilliusbm ""] Heh, German Pest isn't as good. |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 11:47am - AndrewBastard ""] arilliusbm said:Bands that live in, play in, socialize in, spend their whole life in a major urban environment. I'm sorry, I don't find much ehtos or muse in major cities. If you want to compare cities like Bergen to any major US metropolis, be my guest. But yes, I expected flak and I got it. The City is so grim, I can relate. I feel full of hatred whenever I travel to the city to work. i used to think along these lines. when i stayed at Daniel from Ashdautas house in LA for a few days (OMG i know the doodz from the BTC!!) i was like, 'how do you write grim black metal in this environment? its fucking sunny and BEAUTIFUL out EVERY DAY' but that was 2002 Kinslayer...I'm over that mindset; where you live has no bearing on your mental state when creating music IMO. If anything a hatred for humanity would be stronger in someone living among other humans...but whatevz. i dont even care mannnnnnn |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 11:50am - arilliusbm ""] Hahhaa, I was thinking of the good ol' days when a bunch of people thought that way. I remember asking Ashdautas that same question at Korey's house and they laughed and started talking about how awesome their guitar player's mom made tacos. |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 11:54am - AndrewBastard ""] hahah...dude the first time I met Daniel, I was still dating Jaime and we were at some black metal fest that Kyle KEP prods) booked but out in LA and he walks up to me and we're shooting the shit then he kinda turns and is looking at something else and Jamie nudges me and points to his groin area...HIS FLY WAS DOWN AND HIS DICK WAS COMPLETELY OUT hahaha we LOLd. I dont think I ever told him that. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 11:56am - arilliusbm ""] Hahahaha. Also, Ross is going to get mad for thread derailment again |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 11:57am - AndrewBastard ""] oh shit...what i meant to post was: bennyhillifier |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 11:58am - trioxin245 ""] The point of this thread was to avoid these tired discussions about ethos and focus on the reasons you got into black metal in the first place. I'm pretty sure my first thought as a 13 year old upon hearing 'Weeping in Heaven' wasn't 'man this is good, but I don't understand how he can live in that environment in NY and still make music like this.' It was more along the lines of 'fuck yea, this is dirty and extreme as hell, I want more.' |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 12:05pm - trioxin245 ""] The point is, my fondest memories of black metal were the times where I was experiencing it for the first time, not the times when I was finally old enough to consider myself elite enough to tell other people why they aren't as black metal as me. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 12:20pm - arilliusbm ""] I first got into it for its escapism and stances on everything it stood against. anti urbanism was always a core element of my personal take on it because I dislike people and did not grow up in the city. Music is music, but blackmetal meant more to me than that. Granted, that was a while ago now, so it's all for lulz now. But yes Ross, I SEE YOUR POINT. CARRY ON WITH THE VIDEOS GOOD SIR. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 12:26pm - trioxin245 ""] So you're telling me when you were like 12 years old and you heard 'a blaze in the northern sky' your first thoughts were of the core element of anti-urbanism and the stances it took on escapism? I guess you were a more thoughtful 12 year old than I was, because although it might have taken that shape later on for me, my FIRST impression of black metal was to grow my hair long and bang my head. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 12:33pm - arilliusbm ""] it was a combination of everything that was going on in my life. I was reading a lot of fantasy novels back then and also would go out to the woods with my headphones and blare black metal. I guess I'm a twig and berries guy at heart, haha. like I said in text message, I didnt get heavily involved in think about "ethos" until I smoked a lot of weed and started memorizing countless shitty bands from countless countries. But yea, when I first heard it, I DIDNT GIVE A FUCK BECAUSE OMG THIS MUSIC IS AWESOME. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 23,2012 12:35pm - ark ""] my first thought was "these immortal guys are doing the exact same thing i read about in fantasy books" |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 12:39pm - Czarnobog ""] i got into black metal via crust punk and death metal sometime in the mid-90s. it wasn't really a huge leap from amebix, bolt thrower or celtic frost to darkthrone and satyricon. i don't remember having any deep bloated thoughts about it, just some new music that expanded on shit i was already into. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 12:42pm - trioxin245 ""] Czarnobog said:i got into black metal via crust punk and death metal sometime in the mid-90s. it wasn't really a huge leap from amebix, bolt thrower or celtic frost to darkthrone and satyricon. i don't remember having any deep bloated thoughts about it, just some new music that expanded on shit i was already into. Yea that's pretty much what I'm saying. I loved it but it didn't give me any kind of deep-seeded meaning or anything, it was just some grimy, extreme ass shit to thrash the fuck out to at the time. |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 12:42pm - AndrewBastard ""] bobby saw Phil Anselmo in a Dark Throne shirt and was hooked. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 12:45pm - trioxin245 ""] AndrewBastard said:bobby saw Phil Anselmo in a Dark Throne shirt and was hooked. haha I actually got into EHG because Phil was wearing a Dopesick shirt in the video for 'Im Broken' and I was always curious to hear what they sounded like so I bought the cd. That was how you used to have to find shit before internet. Like, I heard Mercyful Fate in the mid 90s because Metallica cited them as an influence, so I went and checked them out and loved it. Only thank-you list discoveries are real. |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 12:50pm - AndrewBastard ""] trioxin245 said: AndrewBastard said:bobby saw Phil Anselmo in a Dark Throne shirt and was hooked. haha I actually got into EHG because Phil was wearing a Dopesick shirt in the video for 'Im Broken' and I was always curious to hear what they sounded like so I bought the cd. That was how you used to have to find shit before internet. Like, I heard Mercyful Fate in the mid 90s because Metallica cited them as an influence, so I went and checked them out and loved it. Only thank-you list discoveries are real. or like the little check box order forms that used to be inside tapes...you'd just order some random band that looked cool and hoped for the best |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 12:59pm - arilliusbm ""] Yea, weed made me think way too much for my own good. Wayyyyy toooooo muuuuuchhhhhh. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 1:00pm - arilliusbm ""] Haha backed on the check box. I used to get catalogues and randomly select bands. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 1:03pm - trioxin245 ""] AndrewBastard said: trioxin245 said: AndrewBastard said:bobby saw Phil Anselmo in a Dark Throne shirt and was hooked. haha I actually got into EHG because Phil was wearing a Dopesick shirt in the video for 'Im Broken' and I was always curious to hear what they sounded like so I bought the cd. That was how you used to have to find shit before internet. Like, I heard Mercyful Fate in the mid 90s because Metallica cited them as an influence, so I went and checked them out and loved it. Only thank-you list discoveries are real. or like the little check box order forms that used to be inside tapes...you'd just order some random band that looked cool and hoped for the best yea like Blue Grape (something like that) merchandising and all that. |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 1:03pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] AndrewBastard said:hahah...dude the first time I met Daniel, I was still dating Jaime and we were at some black metal fest that Kyle KEP prods) booked but out in LA and he walks up to me and we're shooting the shit then he kinda turns and is looking at something else and Jamie nudges me and points to his groin area...HIS FLY WAS DOWN AND HIS DICK WAS COMPLETELY OUT hahaha we LOLd. I dont think I ever told him that. arilliusbm said:Hahahaha. Also, Ross is going to get mad for thread derailment again If looking at dudes' dicks isn't on topic for this thread, I don't know what is. |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 1:09pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] trioxin245 said:So you're telling me when you were like 12 years old and you heard 'a blaze in the northern sky' your first thoughts were of the core element of anti-urbanism and the stances it took on escapism? I guess you were a more thoughtful 12 year old than I was, because although it might have taken that shape later on for me, my FIRST impression of black metal was to grow my hair long and bang my head. Heh - my first thought on hearing Darkthrone was "WHOAH - is that a bear?" because it was Soulside Journey on tape. trioxin245 said: Only thank-you list discoveries are real. A THOUSAND TIMES THIS |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 1:11pm - arilliusbm ""] Best way to hear new bands = compilations too. There used to be some killer comps that were out in the 90s. Even Nuclear Blasts' "DEATH" comps had some good shit on it. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 23,2012 1:18pm - Yeti ""] trioxin245 said:The point of this thread was to avoid these tired discussions about ethos and focus on the reasons you got into black metal in the first place. I'm pretty sure my first thought as a 13 year old upon hearing 'Weeping in Heaven' wasn't 'man this is good, but I don't understand how he can live in that environment in NY and still make music like this.' It was more along the lines of 'fuck yea, this is dirty and extreme as hell, I want more.' hahaha awesome. I grew up in a blue collar predominantly white suburban town next to Worcester, but i was a loser so i spent my entire childhood and most of the teen years mostly alone in the acres of woods behind my house. i think the first time i ever heard black metal was on the first Blackened compilation in 97, i bought it from Record Town because it had cool sounding band names on the back. i guess that would make "I Am the Black Wizards" the first song i ever heard, and i was hooked. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 23,2012 1:23pm - Yeti ""] i was the only kid in my entire town who knew anything about black metal, so it's always been about isolation to me. most of my adolescence was spent sitting alone in my room with my headphones on listening to "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss" while my classmates were out playing spin-the-bottle. oh man i remember my sister HATING "that stupid song with the flute", meaning "Dark Medieval Times" hahaha. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 1:36pm - arilliusbm ""] ^ ditto. Zero people around Middleboro liked black metal. Even in highschool, no one else. Sucked, but at the same time, was good. Introvert music. Not sure what happened, I cant stop yapping these days. BRING BACK ANGRY ADOLESCENT ARIL. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 1:48pm - Czarnobog ""] i had it easy. already lived in providence by the time i got into black metal and had fast forward records (precursor to armageddon) to check out records. suckers. |
| ____________________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 2:11pm - Gregd-blessedoffal ""] First time I heard Venom was on The Straight Ahead Show back around 1982. In Nomine Satanas was the track. Scared the fucking shit out of me. I never heard anything so over the top and raw in my life. DO IT AGAIN! |
| ______________________________ [Aug 23,2012 3:20pm - Yeti ""] Czarnobog said:i had it easy. already lived in providence by the time i got into black metal and had fast forward records (precursor to armageddon) to check out records. suckers. i only had Record Town at the local mall, but back then they had a pretty good stock. i remember finding Abigor, Old Funeral, Abominator, and others. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 3:36pm - Czarnobog ""] as far as getting exposed to decent music in general i was pretty lucky growing up on the south shore too. back in the day the hanover mall had musicsmith, which actually had a good amount of underground punk, hardcore, metal, goth etc. whoever was buying for them in the '80s/early '90s knew what they were doing. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 3:39pm - trioxin_245 ""] I got a lot of my shit from that Second Coming place in harvard square in the late 90's. Guy was cool, would always throw you extra shit if he liked your taste. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 3:40pm - arilliusbm ""] All I went to was "the wall"and then newburys later on. |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 4:16pm - Cathach2002 ""] Vinland Winds, Panzerfaust & Resistance are the only places you should be obtaining music from.TOTAL SUPPORT |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 4:24pm - ancient_master ""] Words & Music in Fairhaven had a used tape section which was my first exposure to underground metal |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 4:32pm - arilliusbm ""] ancient_master said:Words & Music in Fairhaven had a used tape section which was my first exposure to underground metal heh, I remember that. Is it still there? |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 4:33pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] I used to go to Webster Music & Sound. They had a "poster crypt". I got a Venom back patch there that would end up waiting 10 years for a suitable jacket to affix it to. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 23,2012 4:44pm - trioxin245 ""] DestroyYouAlot said:I used to go to Webster Music & Sound. They had a "poster crypt". I got a Venom back patch there that would end up waiting 10 years for a suitable jacket to affix it to. I still have a Vitus back patch I bought like 10 years ago from old orchard beach that I'm probably never going to use. |