the official LOL at Conservationist thread.
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[Nov 5,2008 8:41pm - zyklon ""]
Thank you
[Nov 5,2008 9:02pm - the_reverend ""]
hoser, you drive a registered car with a license that is soon to be "real IDed". Then cops in plain cloths can walk by you and (if you have your license on you) know who you are immediately.
you post on the internet and can easily be tracked.
you probably have a cellphone and can be tracked.
if you commit a felony, you shouldn't be able to own a gun (or vote)
if you are a mental patient, you shouldn't be able to own a gun.
registering a gun to keep legal guns out of the wrong hands seems pretty awesome to me. Let them buy a gun illegally, and then go away for longer.
[Nov 5,2008 9:02pm - the_reverend ""]
and if you are going to rage against registering guns.
could you also roid rage against registering your car?
[Nov 5,2008 9:29pm - DEEDEEDEE ""]
hoser... your mom is an anonymous poster
[Nov 6,2008 6:50am - sxealex ""]
the_reverend said:
if you commit a felony, you shouldn't be able to own a gun (or vote)
im not sure I agree with this 100%
[Nov 6,2008 8:01am - Josh_Martin ""]
the_reverend said:if you commit a felony, you shouldn't be able to own a gun (or vote)
Why don't you want me to be able to vote Rev?? Do you realize the stupid shit that is considered a "felony" in this country? Its not just rapists, murderers, and thieves y'know.
[Nov 6,2008 8:05am - Josh_Martin ""]
orgymf@work said:do you realise that you just made it look like i said something that conservationist said, and then he responded with something you would say, and you reposted it?
I don't know why that post came out like that. Weird.
You do realize though, that learning a foreign language has been a requirement at most high schools and colleges for decades though right? This is nothing new. Not necessarily spanish, but some foreign language. Most schools offer a choice between spanish and french.
Please post sources for all your other claims. I would like to read them.
[Nov 6,2008 8:38am - ouchdrummer ""]
orgymf@work said:
Lamp said:I don't see any reason why both groups of people can't learn both languages.
forcing us to learn their languange is infringing on our freedom and way of life.
it should be like every other country, you learn their language, or you do not live there
ZERO TOLERANCE
I am sorry to tell you bud but that is not the way it is in other countries. In most other industrialized countries people are forced to learn more than their native language otherwise they won't graduate high school. The same that it is here for kids learning spanish. And the reason it's not infringing on our freedoms, or ways of life is because our government doesn't really force anyone to learn anything, they have regulations on what classes people need to complete before they graduate highschool, and part of that is foreign language. So you will never be forced to learn anything, unless your going back to school. And personally, i like that. I think that while children from MOST other countries are bi-lingual, it would be smart to make sure ours can keep up. We might not be the capitolist wetdream that we are now forever, some day our children might need to travel to handle business/get away from some situation here, and when that happens wouln't you have their education be as comprehensive as that of other countries? And the only real differnce between us and those countries is that their are some (a very select few) who DO require even adults to learn the main language, or they will kick them out. Which if you ask me, is infringing on their rights.
[Nov 6,2008 9:37am - the_reverend ""]
you already can't vote while on probation, etc... but I guess my statement against felony. White collar things I don't think we have to worry about, but if someone goes to jail for rape/murder/kidnapping/grand theft, they probably wouldn't be the sort of person you want legally owning a gun.
[Nov 6,2008 9:40am - ouchdrummer ""]
ouchdrummer said:
orgymf@work said:
Lamp said:I don't see any reason why both groups of people can't learn both languages.
forcing us to learn their languange is infringing on our freedom and way of life.
it should be like every other country, you learn their language, or you do not live there
ZERO TOLERANCE
I am sorry to tell you bud but that is not the way it is in other countries. In most other industrialized countries people are forced to learn more than their native language otherwise they won't graduate high school. The same that it is here for kids learning spanish. And the reason it's not infringing on our freedoms, or ways of life is because our government doesn't really force anyone to learn anything, they have regulations on what classes people need to complete before they graduate highschool, and part of that is foreign language. So you will never be forced to learn anything, unless your going back to school. And personally, i like that. I think that while children from MOST other countries are bi-lingual, it would be smart to make sure ours can keep up. We might not be the capitolist wetdream that we are now forever, some day our children might need to travel to handle business/get away from some situation here, and when that happens wouln't you have their education be as comprehensive as that of other countries? And the only real differnce between us and those countries is that their are some (a very select few) who DO require even adults to learn the main language, or they will kick them out. Which if you ask me, is infringing on their rights.
and i am not trying to pick a fight buddy, but i have been doing some research since i read your post this morning, and i haven't found a single country where there is "Zero Tollerance" policy for learning their native language. I Think because that would be a serious infringement of rights... and again, i am sorry that i seem controversial, i just think that your mis-informed.
[Nov 6,2008 9:55am - orgymf@work ""]
Josh_Martin said:
orgymf@work said:do you realise that you just made it look like i said something that conservationist said, and then he responded with something you would say, and you reposted it?
I don't know why that post came out like that. Weird.
You do realize though, that learning a foreign language has been a requirement at most high schools and colleges for decades though right? This is nothing new. Not necessarily spanish, but some foreign language. Most schools offer a choice between spanish and french.
Please post sources for all your other claims. I would like to read them.
as far as foreign language being required.....
really?????
i don't know man, maybe Attleboro High is a black sheep of sorts, because i was never forced into any foreign language class.
as far as sources, i listen to NPR alot, and i get alot of news from BBC.... outside, unbiased views are a beautiful thing.
[Nov 6,2008 9:57am - orgymf@work ""]
ouchdrummer said:
ouchdrummer said:
orgymf@work said:
Lamp said:I don't see any reason why both groups of people can't learn both languages.
forcing us to learn their languange is infringing on our freedom and way of life.
it should be like every other country, you learn their language, or you do not live there
ZERO TOLERANCE
I am sorry to tell you bud but that is not the way it is in other countries. In most other industrialized countries people are forced to learn more than their native language otherwise they won't graduate high school. The same that it is here for kids learning spanish. And the reason it's not infringing on our freedoms, or ways of life is because our government doesn't really force anyone to learn anything, they have regulations on what classes people need to complete before they graduate highschool, and part of that is foreign language. So you will never be forced to learn anything, unless your going back to school. And personally, i like that. I think that while children from MOST other countries are bi-lingual, it would be smart to make sure ours can keep up. We might not be the capitolist wetdream that we are now forever, some day our children might need to travel to handle business/get away from some situation here, and when that happens wouln't you have their education be as comprehensive as that of other countries? And the only real differnce between us and those countries is that their are some (a very select few) who DO require even adults to learn the main language, or they will kick them out. Which if you ask me, is infringing on their rights.
and i am not trying to pick a fight buddy, but i have been doing some research since i read your post this morning, and i haven't found a single country where there is "Zero Tollerance" policy for learning their native language. I Think because that would be a serious infringement of rights... and again, i am sorry that i seem controversial, i just think that your mis-informed.
look up the immigration laws of mexico
[Nov 6,2008 10:00am - orgymf@work ""]
pam said:Dear Conservationist, Hoser, et all,
WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GET BEHIND OUR PRESIDENT OR YOU HATE THE COUNTRY
DON'T LIKE IT? GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY
Sound familiar. Get a helmet and shut up. Whiners.
first of all
i was never part of the "don't like it? get out" crew when Bush was in.
second, no whining at all, just stating what facts i know and opinions i have about the douche you voted for.
and as i have stated many times before, i also hate McCain
[Nov 6,2008 10:02am - orgymf@work ""]
economic plan
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OGExY...jQ5YjAyNWUzZmI2MDQyNmU4MmU2NGI3ZDg=
[Nov 6,2008 10:03am - darkwor ""]
Mexico is indeed a model society /sarcasm
[Nov 6,2008 10:12am - ouchdrummer ""]
orgymf@work said:
Josh_Martin said:
orgymf@work said:do you realise that you just made it look like i said something that conservationist said, and then he responded with something you would say, and you reposted it?
I don't know why that post came out like that. Weird.
You do realize though, that learning a foreign language has been a requirement at most high schools and colleges for decades though right? This is nothing new. Not necessarily spanish, but some foreign language. Most schools offer a choice between spanish and french.
Please post sources for all your other claims. I would like to read them.
as far as foreign language being required.....
really?????
i don't know man, maybe Attleboro High is a black sheep of sorts, because i was never forced into any foreign language class.
as far as sources, i listen to NPR alot, and i get alot of news from BBC.... outside, unbiased views are a beautiful thing.
well my high school/all the dudes in my office had to take foreign language, my sisters have had too, and all my friends had too. At least two years of it.
And i am not saying that your uninformed in general, just in that most other countries have a zero tolerance policy. I mean, say Mexico does have such a law, i know people living in Mexico (my wife's relatives) and they speak Italian/Portuguese. Which the latter is similar to Spanish, but by no means the same language. And they have been there for years. So while maybe a law like that (as draconian as it would be) may be in place, they don't enforce it. And do we really want to model any of our country after Mexico? I don't think they are really the cultural mecca that we are, or that Germany, or Europe are.
And are you saying that you would like all grown adults here to be forced to speak fluently? Because if immigrants want to become citizens there is a naturalization process in place that requires a test about our history/laws, and classes. (in English) I know that naturalization is circumvented frequently by people who are just illegal and don't try to become a citizen, but no law about English will change that at all. (short of random roadblocks near our borders to make sure they can speak english........ obviously i am kidding about that.)
Anyways, my main points are this, everyone i know was forced to take at least two years of foreign language going to school, and i believe for good reason, and the worlds cultures continue to mix, there is nothing anyone can do about it, and the children of this country need to be able to keep up. That NECESSITATES a bi-lingual language set. (If not TRI-Lingual). It's education, and it's important. And the rest of the world (like i was saying, at least all the industrialized countries) are all forced (for graduation that is) to learn two if not three languages. And it has helped the children on those countries immensely.
And as far as forcing adults here to learn english when they immigrate here.. like i said, during naturalization there are requirements in place that require learning at least the basics of our language, and if your saying that those standards need to be raised, then i could see that. But any kind of standardized testing for any new immigrants may be a little much.
[Nov 6,2008 10:14am - orgymf@work ""]
Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government
source - ontheissues.org
[Nov 6,2008 10:15am - orgymf@work ""]
darkwor said:Mexico is indeed a model society /sarcasm
regardless.
they are still a functioning society
i believe people who come here from mexico, should be treated the way the mexican government treat anyone who moves there.
[Nov 6,2008 10:21am - orgymf@work ""]
anyone who can pass a test in english obviously has a good enough grasp.
i am talking about american born assholes who refuse to learn english.
i am talking about illegals who should not be allowed to stay in the first place.
see the big loophole is some pregnant twat jumpes a fence or rides a floating door to get here, shits out a little brat, cries "don't sepreate our family" and the whole non-english speaking bunch of fuckers finds a way to stay.
English is the primary language, and it should stay that way, trying to force people who were born here to "adapt to bi-lingualism" or "embrace linguistic diversity" is nothing but P.C. crybaby liberal nonsense.
[Nov 6,2008 10:29am - Conservationist ""]
pam said:Dear Conservationist, Hoser, et all,
WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GET BEHIND OUR PRESIDENT OR YOU HATE THE COUNTRY
DON'T LIKE IT? GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY
Sound familiar. Get a helmet and shut up. Whiners.
Liberals are bitter, neurotic people.
[Nov 6,2008 10:34am - ouchdrummer ""]
orgymf@work said: trying to force people who were born here to "adapt to bi-lingualism" or "embrace linguistic diversity" is nothing but P.C. crybaby liberal nonsense.
like i was saying, no one besides kids who want to graduate would be forced into anything, and that has been the case in schools here for 30 or more years. And again, what is the problem with higher education? No one is gonna force you to learn anything, they are gonna make sure our children are more prepared for a world that no matter how bad they want it to be all english all the time, it will not be that way in this country ( or any other) ever again in any other country. Cultures are just too mixed for that, so yes, in my opinion it is REALLY important for children to be bi-lingual, and i think it would be EVEN if we did have such a draconian law as "ALL ENGLISH OR GET OUT", because it would make them better prepared for the world. Just like math classes, geography classes, or any other education. It's important.
What part of the higher education bothers you?
And did anyone else reading this NOT have a minimum foreign language requirement for graduation?
[Nov 6,2008 10:35am - ouchdrummer ""]
Conservationist said:
pam said:Dear Conservationist, Hoser, et all,
WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GET BEHIND OUR PRESIDENT OR YOU HATE THE COUNTRY
DON'T LIKE IT? GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY
Sound familiar. Get a helmet and shut up. Whiners.
Liberals are bitter, neurotic people.
for you to call us bitter because we can't take your WHINING then your diluted.
[Nov 6,2008 10:36am - Conservationist ""]
ouchdrummer said:
Conservationist said:
pam said:Dear Conservationist, Hoser, et all,
WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GET BEHIND OUR PRESIDENT OR YOU HATE THE COUNTRY
DON'T LIKE IT? GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY
Sound familiar. Get a helmet and shut up. Whiners.
Liberals are bitter, neurotic people.
for you to call us bitter because we can't take your WHINING then your diluted.
Where is my "whining"?
Maybe you just construe everything you see as what is most convenient for you.
[Nov 6,2008 10:40am - ouchdrummer ""]
orgy- i guess what confuses me about what your saying is this: Why does it bother you that our children our required to learn a second language? It will be an invaluable skill throughout the rest of their lives that will most likely enable them to go to more places, do more things, and make more money. If it was a requirement to learn all about mexican culture for instance, or traditions, that would bother me, because it will not benefit them at all, and is of no use unless they just want to know it. But language is just a skill set that's importance is matched by very few other things.
[Nov 6,2008 10:41am - orgymf@work ""]
ouchdrummer said:
orgymf@work said: trying to force people who were born here to "adapt to bi-lingualism" or "embrace linguistic diversity" is nothing but P.C. crybaby liberal nonsense.
like i was saying, no one besides kids who want to graduate would be forced into anything, and that has been the case in schools here for 30 or more years. And again, what is the problem with higher education? No one is gonna force you to learn anything, they are gonna make sure our children are more prepared for a world that no matter how bad they want it to be all english all the time, it will not be that way in this country ( or any other) ever again in any other country. Cultures are just too mixed for that, so yes, in my opinion it is REALLY important for children to be bi-lingual, and i think it would be EVEN if we did have such a draconian law as "ALL ENGLISH OR GET OUT", because it would make them better prepared for the world. Just like math classes, geography classes, or any other education. It's important.
What part of the higher education bothers you?
And did anyone else reading this NOT have a minimum foreign language requirement for graduation?
i'm not bullshittin guys, swear to god, i do not know anyone (of all the people i hang with that went to school in Attleboro, Norton, or North Attleboro) that was forced into foreign language classes.
and it's not higher education, it's making diversity seem more important than it is, and making it easier for people from other countries to get around without learning english.
the thought of the entire country being bi-lingual by the time i'm an old fuck makes me pray for an early death.
[Nov 6,2008 10:43am - ouchdrummer ""]
Conservationist- I would say that after an election is over, continuing to point out what you think MIGHT go wrong, and how silly/stupid peoples decisions were to have voted the way they did, when you could be informing people what they should do now to ensure/help prevent the things your predicting, or even to prepare for them if they are really unavoidable.... is all whining. It's to no end, it's complaining, and your not trying to get anywhere with it. Yes sir, thats whining.
[Nov 6,2008 10:43am - orgymf@work ""]
waits for someone to make the predictable "don't worry, you'll have a heart attack soon enough fat ass" joke
[Nov 6,2008 10:47am - ouchdrummer ""]
orgy- you really don't see the benefits to being bi-lingual? Even though you openly admit that you deal with people on a regular basis who speak a language you don't? Because sadly buddy, that's not gonna change, and if you wanna ever leave the country, it's gonna be a million times worse. So how can you say you would want an early death if our country tried to make all it's children bi-lingual? That's like saying that forcing our children calculas in school is bad because it's not a normal part of their life, and they don't need it. When in fact it would help them
-get more jobs
-make more money at the jobs
-and understand what is going on around you more.
*which i may add, are all things foreign language will do to.
[Nov 6,2008 10:53am - darkwor ""]
English WILL stay the primary language. It is the language of international business. Where is the argument here? How can you stop the tide of immigrants? With the attitude you have, your bound not to like it anywhere you can work for a paycheck. Y'all sound like a bunch of Romans.
-gun-loving 'crybaby liberal'
[Nov 6,2008 11:13am - Josh_Martin ""]
orgymf@work said:
ouchdrummer said:
orgymf@work said: trying to force people who were born here to "adapt to bi-lingualism" or "embrace linguistic diversity" is nothing but P.C. crybaby liberal nonsense.
like i was saying, no one besides kids who want to graduate would be forced into anything, and that has been the case in schools here for 30 or more years. And again, what is the problem with higher education? No one is gonna force you to learn anything, they are gonna make sure our children are more prepared for a world that no matter how bad they want it to be all english all the time, it will not be that way in this country ( or any other) ever again in any other country. Cultures are just too mixed for that, so yes, in my opinion it is REALLY important for children to be bi-lingual, and i think it would be EVEN if we did have such a draconian law as "ALL ENGLISH OR GET OUT", because it would make them better prepared for the world. Just like math classes, geography classes, or any other education. It's important.
What part of the higher education bothers you?
And did anyone else reading this NOT have a minimum foreign language requirement for graduation?
i'm not bullshittin guys, swear to god, i do not know anyone (of all the people i hang with that went to school in Attleboro, Norton, or North Attleboro) that was forced into foreign language classes.
and it's not higher education, it's making diversity seem more important than it is, and making it easier for people from other countries to get around without learning english.
the thought of the entire country being bi-lingual by the time i'm an old fuck makes me pray for an early death.
You are fucking paranoid. Many other countries DO force their kids to learn english. At least the ones that care about getting ahead in business do. And who the fuck is born here that can't speak english? I live in fucking Lawrence, which is like 90% hispanic and those people want to learn english asap. How the fuck else are they going to get the fuck out of places like Lawrence?
[Nov 6,2008 11:19am - darkwor ""]
Lawrence was one of the only 3 MA towns that was against question 2 along with Clarksville and Braintree
[Nov 6,2008 11:27am - the_reverend ""]
they didn't want weed to lose it's appeal.
[Nov 6,2008 11:41am - orgymf@work ""]
Josh_Martin said:
orgymf@work said:
ouchdrummer said:
orgymf@work said: trying to force people who were born here to "adapt to bi-lingualism" or "embrace linguistic diversity" is nothing but P.C. crybaby liberal nonsense.
like i was saying, no one besides kids who want to graduate would be forced into anything, and that has been the case in schools here for 30 or more years. And again, what is the problem with higher education? No one is gonna force you to learn anything, they are gonna make sure our children are more prepared for a world that no matter how bad they want it to be all english all the time, it will not be that way in this country ( or any other) ever again in any other country. Cultures are just too mixed for that, so yes, in my opinion it is REALLY important for children to be bi-lingual, and i think it would be EVEN if we did have such a draconian law as "ALL ENGLISH OR GET OUT", because it would make them better prepared for the world. Just like math classes, geography classes, or any other education. It's important.
What part of the higher education bothers you?
And did anyone else reading this NOT have a minimum foreign language requirement for graduation?
i'm not bullshittin guys, swear to god, i do not know anyone (of all the people i hang with that went to school in Attleboro, Norton, or North Attleboro) that was forced into foreign language classes.
and it's not higher education, it's making diversity seem more important than it is, and making it easier for people from other countries to get around without learning english.
the thought of the entire country being bi-lingual by the time i'm an old fuck makes me pray for an early death.
You are fucking paranoid. Many other countries DO force their kids to learn english. At least the ones that care about getting ahead in business do. And who the fuck is born here that can't speak english? I live in fucking Lawrence, which is like 90% hispanic and those people want to learn english asap. How the fuck else are they going to get the fuck out of places like Lawrence?
well, since i don't have a link to show you my source, i am sure you will have trouble believing this, but i deal with anywhere between one and fifteen people per week, who come into this office and need a translator to buy their own birth certificate!!!!!
we only have records for people who were born in mass!!!!!!!
[Nov 6,2008 11:44am - orgymf@work ""]
ouchdrummer said:orgy- you really don't see the benefits to being bi-lingual? Even though you openly admit that you deal with people on a regular basis who speak a language you don't? Because sadly buddy, that's not gonna change, and if you wanna ever leave the country, it's gonna be a million times worse. So how can you say you would want an early death if our country tried to make all it's children bi-lingual? That's like saying that forcing our children calculas in school is bad because it's not a normal part of their life, and they don't need it. When in fact it would help them
-get more jobs
-make more money at the jobs
-and understand what is going on around you more.
*which i may add, are all things foreign language will do to.
kids learning calculus effects us in a positive way.
kids learning spanish makes it easier for people who refuse to learn english
it is a disadvantage.
why pay bi-linguals more?.....let's save the country money by not hiring people who refuse to learn english, and not offering incentives for bilingualism....
everyone.....illegals included......will be forced to learn english, and never again, will someone who was born in this country have to be annoyed by some cocksmoker who looks at you like you're an ass for not knowing their language!
[Nov 6,2008 11:51am - ouchdrummer ""]
looking at learning spanish as a disadvantage is crazy. It making other it easier for other people to not learn english MAY be a by product of it, but it will not change how many non english speakers learn english. But it WILL
Let them get paid more because many jobs have to deal with non english speakers, whether you think it's right or not, it's not going to change.
Because they can travel around the world to other countries, and see different things, and understande what the hell is going on. Even get a job in those countries and move their if they want to.
Your answer that learning spanish is a DISADVANTAGE is a very VERY narrow minded view that looks at the rest of the world as not being important, and your earlier argument was that we SHOULD be like the rest of the world?! Well the rest of the world MAKES them learn more than one language. Because it's an OBVIOS advantage in business, and travel. If you really don't get that, i am shocked, and dissapointed because i expected more of you. Sorry to put it that way, but this last comment about it being a disadvantage is outrageous. Stupid even.
[Nov 6,2008 11:51am - arilliusbm ""]
conjeturo que solamente la gente elegante sabe mas de una lengua. no hay problema que sabe más de una lengua si usted sabe ya inglés. los que no saben necesidad del ingles de aprenderla como mejor es posible. si debo vivir en China, haría un esfuerzo para aprender chino.
can't remember jack shit. 8 years of spanish + taking german in college = me forgetting everything
[Nov 6,2008 11:54am - Josh_Martin ""]
orgymf@work said:
well, since i don't have a link to show you my source, i am sure you will have trouble believing this, but i deal with anywhere between one and fifteen people per week, who come into this office and need a translator to buy their own birth certificate!!!!!
we only have records for people who were born in mass!!!!!!!
I beleive you, there's shitbags in every population. That's the minority though.
[Nov 6,2008 11:55am - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Hoser said:Let ANY fucking asshole try to take my guns or ammo. I fucking dare them. Where I live, they would have a full scale war on their hands. Bring 'em all in. On my road alone we have 3 former Marines, 2 former S.E.A.L.S and about 5 former Soldiers...not to mention about 15 various toothless rednecks and all of their friends.
My point being...stay the fuck away from our 2nd Amendment rights and things will be just peachy keen.
Fully backed, BTW.
[Nov 6,2008 11:56am - orgymf@work ""]
ouchdrummer said:looking at learning spanish as a disadvantage is crazy. It making other it easier for other people to not learn english MAY be a by product of it, but it will not change how many non english speakers learn english. But it WILL
Let them get paid more because many jobs have to deal with non english speakers, whether you think it's right or not, it's not going to change.
Because they can travel around the world to other countries, and see different things, and understande what the hell is going on. Even get a job in those countries and move their if they want to.
Your answer that learning spanish is a DISADVANTAGE is a very VERY narrow minded view that looks at the rest of the world as not being important, and your earlier argument was that we SHOULD be like the rest of the world?! Well the rest of the world MAKES them learn more than one language. Because it's an OBVIOS advantage in business, and travel. If you really don't get that, i am shocked, and dissapointed because i expected more of you. Sorry to put it that way, but this last comment about it being a disadvantage is outrageous. Stupid even.
look, we can argue until our heads fall off....but the simple matter is, i completely disagree.
and "linguistic diversity" is a nice way of saying sissy liberal pandering.
it's not narrow minded of me to expect that when i do business with someone in America that they speak english.
sorry you find me to be such an ignorant dick.
[Nov 6,2008 11:57am - pam ""]
English wasn't the language of the land until Europeans showed up. Immigrants came right behind them speaking German, Italian, French and Spanish, we've been a melting pot since we "discovered" America. Get the fuck over it. You've got no right discriminating against immigrants unless you're 100% pure blooded Native American.
Voting YES to make English the national language would accomplish NOTHING. It was a stupid SHOW ME YOUR PATRIOTIC BALLS vote like the flag burning one. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.
Just because you're not smart enough to pass a couple of Spanish or French classes in college and high school doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone else.
I never use algebra either, but you have to learn that too. It's called a well-rounded education...you know, the thing us "idiots" have.
[Nov 6,2008 11:57am - orgymf@work ""]
Josh_Martin said:
orgymf@work said:
well, since i don't have a link to show you my source, i am sure you will have trouble believing this, but i deal with anywhere between one and fifteen people per week, who come into this office and need a translator to buy their own birth certificate!!!!!
we only have records for people who were born in mass!!!!!!!
I beleive you, there's shitbags in every population. That's the minority though.
i'm just saying that big problems start small. then they snowball and get bigger
i fear this will be one of those problems, especially with a liberal minded president.
i hope i am wrong
[Nov 6,2008 11:58am - pam ""]
It's pretty easy to take your "business" elsewhere. But I guess it's even easier to whine about it.
[Nov 6,2008 12:00pm - Josh_Martin ""]
shit, wrong thread.
[Nov 6,2008 12:03pm - orgymf@work ""]
pam said:English wasn't the language of the land until Europeans showed up. Immigrants came right behind them speaking German, Italian, French and Spanish, we've been a melting pot since we "discovered" America. Get the fuck over it. You've got no right discriminating against immigrants unless you're 100% pure blooded Native American.
Voting YES to make English the national language would accomplish NOTHING. It was a stupid SHOW ME YOUR PATRIOTIC BALLS vote like the flag burning one. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.
Just because you're not smart enough to pass a couple of Spanish or French classes in college and high school doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone else.
I never use algebra either, but you have to learn that too. It's called a well-rounded education...you know, the thing us "idiots" have.
oh for fucks sake dude.
it has nothing to do with "not being smart enough"
i didn't take spanish class because in my high school it was NOT required, and i found it to be a big waste of time.
so shove your assumptions up your ass.
yeah you are right, immigrants did start this country.
but that was before, when the country was flourishing
now we are overpopulated, and in an economic crisis!
yeah, we did fuck the indians over, but if we let the course continue (giving more and more leinience to illegals, and allowing people to live in this country without learning english) we will be the indians, and they will be the pilgrims.
the reason english is our primary language is that people who built america up to what it is now (ya know, those assholes who wrote the constitution and the bill of rights) decided that was one they could all embrace.
cut the smarmy liberal shit pam
[Nov 6,2008 12:03pm - goatcatalyst ""]
We must secure the existence of our people in a future for white children.
- Ronald Reagan
[Nov 6,2008 12:04pm - orgymf@work ""]
pam said:It's pretty easy to take your "business" elsewhere. But I guess it's even easier to whine about it.
it's not whining, it's standing up for what i believe in.
first amendment
beautiful thing
[Nov 6,2008 12:07pm - pam ""]
Yeah you're right. White people are the persecuted, we're in danger of being overthrown by those inferior foreigners.
Anyone got the ratio of non-white house, senate and cabinet members to the white ones handy?
[Nov 6,2008 12:07pm - pam ""]
orgymf@work said:
pam said:It's pretty easy to take your "business" elsewhere. But I guess it's even easier to whine about it.
it's not whining, it's standing up for what i believe in.
first amendment
beautiful thing
Yeah...as long as you speak English, right? That's totally in the first amendment, right?
[Nov 6,2008 12:10pm - ouchdrummer ""]
Ok.... how can you say talk about things infringing on our "libertys"? PLEASE realize that the freedom of "speech, religion, etc".. in the constitution does not say anywhere "AS LONG AS YOUR DOING IT IN ENGLISH". Matter of fact, saying that is unconstitutional. Fact. Even saying that because people are here they should speak english is unconstitutional. Think about it. How do you expect to have the freedoms to do whatever you want, and to fight for those freedoms, and then say that someone else who is here should not be allowed to not know english. Just because the constitution was written in english? Of course not, there is no good reason. Just because it has been spoken here for years by the majority? Sorry, but that's one of the principles this country was founded on, that you are allowed to pursue life liberty and happiness how ever you like, given that your aren't breaking laws while your doing it. NOT as long as your speaking english while your doing it.
[Nov 6,2008 12:10pm - orgymf@work ""]
pam said:
orgymf@work said:
pam said:It's pretty easy to take your "business" elsewhere. But I guess it's even easier to whine about it.
it's not whining, it's standing up for what i believe in.
first amendment
beautiful thing
Yeah...as long as you speak English, right? That's totally in the first amendment, right?
you are unbefuckinglievable.
no....speak whatever language you want.
but when you go somewhere to conduct business, in america, in an establishment that is not run by people who speak the same language as you, you should know english, and not shoot me attitude because i don't know your language.