Faith based Metal[views:43011][posts:230]________________________________________________ [Apr 12,2007 11:56pm - Coldnorthernvengeance ""] http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/14021621/teenage_holy_war/1 |
| ______________________________ [Apr 12,2007 11:57pm - pam ""] Uh...I never said anything about any of these bands. If a band is good, I don't give a fuck what they're singing about. In fact, I don't think anyone in this thread said anything indicating they'd turn off the radio just because a band is Christian. So maybe attacking all of us is how you prove you're so different because everyone's a sheep but you, right? And if belief was personal, it wouldn't get shoved into people's face all the time. |
| ______________________________ [Apr 12,2007 11:57pm - pam ""] the_reverend said:no christ no cross no fear no loss no bastard son no chosen one.... ....no jesus no beast I love that song. |
| _____________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:05am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] pam said:Uh...I never said anything about any of these bands. If a band is good, I don't give a fuck what they're singing about. In fact, I don't think anyone in this thread said anything indicating they'd turn off the radio just because a band is Christian. So maybe attacking all of us is how you prove you're so different because everyone's a sheep but you, right? And if belief was personal, it wouldn't get shoved into people's face all the time. Pam, I am in no way trying to shove anything in anyone's face. Honestly, maybe this board needs a little controversy, heh. Those bands I posted don't even scratch the surface on what's out there. Of course, some of you are going to hate them because you listened to them expecting to. I will admit, I knew the flaming was going to come in hoards but I accept it because this type of thing will continue throughout my life. I do say it's just music because all in all, music is what we enjoy and it shouldn't dictate our lives regardless of what is being sung about. I accept all kinds of bands so I'm not being stuck up but I do hold beliefs and there are bands who cater to that. I like them , you guys don't have to, that's cool. All I did was expose some bands I'm into thinking maybe someone might like it. *Shrug* |
| ______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:09am - ZJD ""] Remember this thread? http://simple.returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=26610 *masturbate* |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:10am - RichHorror ""] http://simple.returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=26610 |
| ______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:12am - ZJD ""] I hate how I can't just use regular html. *shrugs* RichHorror said:http://simple.returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=26610 Thanks, Rich. *fap* |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:14am - RichHorror ""] It's how I do, nigga. It's how I do. |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:15am - Neverpurified ""] Peter Steele wrote all the lyrics for the new Type O album from a christian perspective, because he recently rediscovered his faith...so does that mean Type O is a christian band all of the sudden? honestly, who gives a shit? When I listen to a band, I'm not thinking "I wonder what this guy worships?" as long as it's good music, i dont give a shit. Tom Araya is a catholic and goes to church regularly, does that all of the sudden mean that everything slayer put out now sucks. And bands like Amon Amarth singing about Odin may be very cool and "metal", but it's no different than singing about christianity...it's all mythology |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:23am - y_ddraig_goch ""] Neverpurified said:Peter Steele wrote all the lyrics for the new Type O album from a Christian perspective, because he recently rediscovered his faith...so does that mean Type O is a Christian band all of the sudden? honestly, who gives a shit? When I listen to a band, I'm not thinking "I wonder what this guy worships?" as long as it's good music, i don't give a shit. Tom Araya is a catholic and goes to church regularly, does that all of the sudden mean that everything slayer put out now sucks. And bands like Amon Amarth singing about Odin may be very cool and "metal", but it's no different than singing about Christianity...it's all mythology Of course, it's all stories. I mean I hate Zionism but I fucking love Orphaned land, best religious band out there. All they sing about is Judaism's stories. |
| ______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:24am - pam ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:pam said:Uh...I never said anything about any of these bands. If a band is good, I don't give a fuck what they're singing about. In fact, I don't think anyone in this thread said anything indicating they'd turn off the radio just because a band is Christian. So maybe attacking all of us is how you prove you're so different because everyone's a sheep but you, right? And if belief was personal, it wouldn't get shoved into people's face all the time. Pam, I am in no way trying to shove anything in anyone's face. I actually didn't mean for that to come off like I was saying you were. I'm just sick of people saying religion is off limits for ridicule because it's a "personal" thing. If it was SO personal, there'd be no pamphlets sticking out of my car windshield, I wouldn't get screamed at in Boston, and there wouldn't be religious people in every country on this fucking Earth trying to Christianize everyone. That's what I meant, it wasn't aimed at you for posting some bands. |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:24am - y_ddraig_goch ""] [img] |
| ______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:26am - pam ""] Neverpurified said:Tom Araya is a catholic and goes to church regularly, does that all of the sudden mean that everything slayer put out now sucks. My favorite Slayer irony is that they have a big Nazi/WP following, and Tom Araya is NOT white. I love that. |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:36am - y_ddraig_goch ""] [img] |
| ______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:39am - pam ""] Orphaned Land is awesome. |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:45am - y_ddraig_goch ""] There's muslims, jews, and christians in Orphaned Land. The three that they always mention in their songs are of course; Islam, Christianity, and Judaism. |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:47am - y_ddraig_goch ""] I'd rather listen to Arabic music than christian music. Arabic music has all kinds of cool instruments, and oh man are those lebenese singers some fine women. Then you have christian music which is pretty much country rock with all these cult looking people lifting their hands into the air. |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:53am - y_ddraig_goch ""] You decide which religion has cooler music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgkikS6b_ds Arabic music video or this.... silly christians, they rip off the good the bad and the ugly. Not to mention the video preachs prohibition http://youtube.com/watch?v=SswiYEXZrIg |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 9:01am - This_Is_Heresy ""] A lot of you are saying that you dont care what a band sings about and thats fine. I, for one, do. My favorite band is never going to be a gore metal band, because no matter how good the music, I won't be able to not laugh at the lyrics. I have no problem with "faith bassed metal" per say... I like Amon Amarth. But the belief system they adhere to is one of strength, not submission and turning the other cheek bullshit. Christian metal can't be real metal in my mind for a lot of reasons. For one, you can't sing about Jesus with some balls behind it. You might as well make the barney song metal. In order to get the edge they lack, I think you need to be angry. And you know what? They aren't the same kind of genuine pissed off that a lot, if not all, people in real metal are. Thats my rant. At least in part. |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 9:11am - Dwellingsickness ""] ArrowHead NLI said: I love how he even prefaced his post with this, and you dickbags STILL jumped at the opportunity to attack his beliefs. Which, in turn, proves his own statement that much farther. Jaweh, Atheism, or Satan, you're all still a bunch of fucking sheep. Don't for one second think your own yard is different than the guy next door. Simply a few different lawn ornaments, nothing more. Belief is personal, and thus unattackable and infinitely defendable. Why you even bother jumping all over this thread I'll never know. Maybe it's the only way you can feel secure in your OWN beliefs? Funny thing is, I hate christianity. Still, I find myself embarrassed by the people pretending to defend my own beliefs in this thread. So, it's okay to listen to Blind Guardian sing tales of Middle Earth, I can hear Iron Maiden sing about the pharos in egypt, but as soon as a band sings about Christ I gotta turn off the radio and spout my vulgar opinions about the wretched nature of religion? Retarded. Well said |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 9:13am - Granny_Monster ""] I just like making fun of P.O.D. |
| _____________________________ [Apr 13,2007 9:33am - pam ""] This_Is_Heresy said:A lot of you are saying that you dont care what a band sings about and thats fine. I, for one, do. My favorite band is never going to be a gore metal band, because no matter how good the music, I won't be able to not laugh at the lyrics. I have no problem with "faith bassed metal" per say... I like Amon Amarth. But the belief system they adhere to is one of strength, not submission and turning the other cheek bullshit. Christian metal can't be real metal in my mind for a lot of reasons. For one, you can't sing about Jesus with some balls behind it. You might as well make the barney song metal. In order to get the edge they lack, I think you need to be angry. And you know what? They aren't the same kind of genuine pissed off that a lot, if not all, people in real metal are. Thats my rant. At least in part. I would not dismiss a band JUST because of their lyrical content, but I am big on lyrics...so lyrics I can't get behind definitely affect how much I like a band. There's nothing wrong with everything you said and everyone in this thread needs to calm the fuck down. |
| _______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 10:36am - Yeti ""] evil is just so much cooler, and so much more fun. its hard to get into a crushing death/black song if its about god, or maybe not openly about god, but god-based. evil just has better imagery and better things to write about. its fun to yell "SATAN! TAKE MY SOUL TO HELL!!!" and look all grim with spikes and corpse paint. its cheesy, but thats the fucking point. to look as absurd and horrifying as humanly possible. if there is a cross on a death or black metal album, it has to be inverted, or it just doesnt hold weight. i've given the christian music a chance, but it just didnt grab me. not solely because i dont believe in it, but because it was boring. happiness and hope have no place in death and black metal. |
| _______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 10:38am - Yeti ""] i'm sorry but i feel that death and black metal were not created for interpretation. if you play something like that, its about evil and death. our death forefathers werent thinking "this is wholesome, well rounded music that people of all faith could be a part of". no, they were thinking "fuck christ, i'll eat your fucking brain". |
| _______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 10:40am - Yeti ""] leave our metal alone damnit! if you want to create something based on god, you have that spiritual gospel music. metal is about horror, fear, blood, gore, and death. anything less would be uncivilized. |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 10:44am - the_reverend ""] http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/m4w/307955969.html |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 10:55am - Josh_Martin ""] Murph said: there is absolutely NO evidence that your buddy Jesus was anything more than a historical priest/king who got trampled by the brightest and most powerful systems of his time, and got wrapped right into the Dionysus/Osiris ideology. There's not even any real evidence that Jesus existed at all. Prove me wrong someone. "You're not making religion better, you're making rock and roll worse" Hank Hill on christian rock. |
| _____________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 11:06am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] I usually do pay attention to lyrics and I would rather have a band with something to say with some substance than have a band go,"Worship Satan, we're evil and grim, take us seriously or you die". |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 11:12am - sinistas ""] There's lots of stuff out there that's both non-Satanic and non-Christian in nature. The closest I get to Christian metal is Trouble, and even that makes me vom in my mouth a bit. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 11:13am - Ryan_M ""] Yeti said:i've given the christian music a chance, but it just didnt grab me. not solely because i dont believe in it, but because it was boring. happiness and hope have no place in death and black metal. This is why I could never get into the Christian bands, like I posted before, they have the talent but the problem is they're trying to sanitize the music, they're taking all the balls out of it, just to make it safe and wholesome for people who might otherwise be offended by it. |
| _____________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 11:21am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] Ryan_M said:Yeti said:i've given the christian music a chance, but it just didnt grab me. not solely because i dont believe in it, but because it was boring. happiness and hope have no place in death and black metal. This is why I could never get into the Christian bands, like I posted before, they have the talent but the problem is they're trying to sanitize the music, they're taking all the balls out of it, just to make it safe and wholesome for people who might otherwise be offended by it. Offended by it? HA! Most churches in this country won't accept shows where Christian bands are playing because they think it's too evil or some crap. I will admit that most Christians in this country are really fundamentalist and stuck up and I must say I am not one of those people. They make me look bad. |
| ______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 11:41am - pam ""] I'd generally rather a band that doesn't sing about their stupid beliefs at all. Christian, Satanic, White Power, it's all a turn off for me. If I want to be preached at, I'll go to church. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 11:43am - RichHorror ""] What if they preach about booze, beer and banging? |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 11:54am - This_Is_Heresy ""] I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm just not evil enough to listen to Christian music. Vikings? Satan? Gore? I can handle that kind of evil. But Christianity is just too evil for me. *shudder* |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 11:59am - Granny_Monster ""] RichHorror said:What if they preach about booze, beer and banging? Damn that Tankard! Shoving their partying beleifs down my throat! "Thou shalt not waste and thou shalt not spill Just drink your beer - Commandments Thou shalt not puke cause there's no excuse Just drink your beer - Commandments Mankind was long deprived Of the rules encased in stone Ten written the rest were lost When will they be found? Laws misplaced for centuries Where can they be? The brewery!" |
| ______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:05pm - pam ""] RichHorror said:What if they preach about booze, beer and banging? I am beyond OK with that. I am a happy little boozer. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:12pm - xmikex ""] Rabble Rabble Rabble Blah Blah Blah I have no stance on this, but I can just point out that I have never once in my life believed that Ra was the God of anything... but I still listen to some Nile. I don't believe that the devil is destined to enslave mankind, but I still listen to some Deicide. I've never drank a beer but I can still appreciate Murphy's Law. I never have any idea what the hell Morbid Angel is talking about.... ever..... but they're still one of my favorite metal bands. just sayin.....rabblerabble |
| ____________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:13pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] practice what you preeeeeach!!! |
| _______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:40pm - Yeti ""] pam said:I'd generally rather a band that doesn't sing about their stupid beliefs at all. Christian, Satanic, White Power, it's all a turn off for me. If I want to be preached at, I'll go to church. you know, i can agree to an extent. but there is just an element i love about overly satanic music. they sound like they are having way more fun than "I'M SO STRONG!! I STAND UP FOR MY RIGHT!! SPIT IN THE FACE OF YOUR ENEMIES AND STAND STRONG!! UNITE FOR STRENGTH!! NOW IS THE TIME FOR ME TO RISE TO MY FEET!!". even with the satanic thing, i dont get the image that a lot of bands are trying to preach, they just write about it because Satan is so much more entertaining than god. |
| _______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:40pm - Yeti ""] i know they do, but i dont pay attention to the preaching aspect. |
| ______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 12:40pm - mOe ""] hey CTB, you should look into Sleeping Giant SUUUPER Christian but musically they're pretty fun http://www.myspace.com/sleepingxgiant I suggest Blame it on the Holy Rollers |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 2:05pm - Josh_Martin ""] ConquerTheBaphomet said:Most churches in this country won't accept shows where Christian bands are playing because they think it's too evil or some crap. I will admit that most Christians in this country are really fundamentalist and stuck up and I must say I am not one of those people. They make me look bad. Uh, its not them making you look bad. Its your devotion to and worship of a figure, who at best was a zombie and at worst (and most likely) didn't even exist at all. |
| ____________________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 2:06pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] mOe said:hey CTB, you should look into Sleeping Giant SUUUPER Christian but musically they're pretty fun http://www.myspace.com/sleepingxgiant I suggest Blame it on the Holy Rollers Eh. I've heard better. |
| _______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 2:35pm - Murph ""] ArrowHead NLI said:ConquerTheBaphomet said:"Christian" metal is criminally underappreciated and it's because people are so against people with beliefs. Listen to these bands and hopefully your hearts will soften a little. I love how he even prefaced his post with this, and you dickbags STILL jumped at the opportunity to attack his beliefs. Which, in turn, proves his own statement that much farther. Jaweh, Atheism, or Satan, you're all still a bunch of fucking sheep. Don't for one second think your own yard is different than the guy next door. Simply a few different lawn ornaments, nothing more. Belief is personal, and thus unattackable and infinitely defendable. Why you even bother jumping all over this thread I'll never know. Maybe it's the only way you can feel secure in your OWN beliefs? Funny thing is, I hate christianity. Still, I find myself embarrassed by the people pretending to defend my own beliefs in this thread. So, it's okay to listen to Blind Guardian sing tales of Middle Earth, I can hear Iron Maiden sing about the pharos in egypt, but as soon as a band sings about Christ I gotta turn off the radio and spout my vulgar opinions about the wretched nature of religion? Retarded. Actually, in my case, I didn't reference up the musical aspect of this post at all. Sing about Christ, Yahweh, Allah, Osiris, Ra, Odin, the Great Eagle, I could care less; in fact, if you're GOOD at what you do, I applaud you. Christianity, however, (no matter how one addresses it or advertises it)sustains itself on the promulgation and adherence to a message. Unfortunately, non-compliance with that message has cost us so much as a people, that I'm sick and fucking tired of it. When this nation (as many others) drop their RIDICULOUS religious affiliation(s) and realize that SECULAR does not mean SATANIST then I'll lay off. This goes for all established religions: we're alone, get over yourselves, and stop being leeches. Thanks. |
| _____________________________ [Apr 13,2007 2:39pm - mOe ""] *fans off Murph* jeez, dude...its just music man listen to some Phish or something brah |
| _______________________________ [Apr 13,2007 2:48pm - Murph ""] mOe said:*fans off Murph* jeez, dude...its just music man listen to some Phish or something brah Coheed will do. Maybe with a splash of Bloc Party. Dance mode. |
| _________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 2:55pm - sxealex ""] im not gonna lie some of these bands are not so bad. its just kinda a funny concept. admiiit it. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 2:58pm - xanonymousx ""] you forgot about the new band impending doom they are how you say br00tal yo. http://www.myspace.com/impending |
| _________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 3:03pm - sxealex ""] dood half these bands dont even advertise their christianity. maybe they are afriad they will look dumb. or maybe they dont wanna be known as a christian band. i think having faith is stupid but ya know to each his own. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 13,2007 3:08pm - xanonymousx ""] http://myspace.com/xdeathstarx as well |