President Barak H. Obama[views:26145][posts:284]__________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:36pm - niccolai ""] pam said: niccolai said: zyklon said: niccolai said: zyklon said: niccolai said: zyklon said: niccolai said: arilliusbm said:an IQ of about 100 Strange. they are drastically intelectually ranging. Yet they vote the same on every political issue, and have the same stance on practically everything. We are looking at 4 more years of Bush, but at least the speaches will sound prettier. I guess nikko is still mad that his boy lost. The guy has been in office one fucking day. at least give him the benefit of a doubt see what he can do and if after 4 years is the same shit then you can talk shit about him I am still pissed that my boy lost. I don't haveto give him the benefit of the doubt because I know what he votes for and I know what he's about. He's going to increase military spending, increase the empire, support israel, destroy your dollar, and has no plans to pay the national deficit. So wait.. what was the difference between him and bush again? Wow so you know the President of the USA huh? I wish I knew him. How do you know he's gonna do all those things? You need to stop reading nonsense shit from racist sites. Do you have a problem with him because of his last name or because he's mulatto? just be honest I know he will be doing these things because of what he's voted on in the senate and because of the people he's elected to his cabinet like Rahm Israel Emanuel and Dennis Ross. I don't like the mind set that anyone who doesn't support Obama is against blacks, thinks he's a moslem terrorist, or is a die hard republican that automatically hates democrats what his supporters seem to have. I have no problem with a black female president who wasn't even born in the country and is part of a political party i've never even heard of. I care about there stances on the issues that I think threaten the prosperity of the country (like the war in the middle east, the support of Israel, support of the federal reserve, and no agenda to solve the national debt). people accusing non-obama supporters of things like being racist, are just as biggoted as the views they are accusing people of having. Obama supports the murder of women and children in gaza. He will do nothing to solve the economic collapse of the dollar or the national debt, he will put pressure on(if not invade) Iran for no reason, and I know this because of the things he and his cabinet have voted for. and I know people will continue to support him until the first time he trips over words in a speach, or they make fun of him on the colbert report. I didn't say you were racist, I just asked you a simple question you can not answer for some reason. I really don't give a fuck if you are but just have the balls to say it that way I won't waste any breath on you. Your boy McCain already got over his defeat why can' you?? By saying my news sources are 'racist websites' you're insinuating I'm racist. And for the record.. when did I ever support Mccain? That would be the day. I said Conservationists websites were. Not you. I haven't seen you post sources. (Not saying you didn't, but I haven't seen em.) By saying I read and get my sources from racist manifesto, it's fair to assume you'r making racist accusations. My sources are Barack Obama's voting record, and various speaches by dennis ross. Any who, got any quotes of me supporting Mccain? |
| ________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:36pm - zyklon ""] niccolai said: zyklon said: niccolai said: zyklon said: niccolai said: zyklon said: niccolai said: arilliusbm said:an IQ of about 100 Strange. they are drastically intelectually ranging. Yet they vote the same on every political issue, and have the same stance on practically everything. We are looking at 4 more years of Bush, but at least the speaches will sound prettier. I guess nikko is still mad that his boy lost. The guy has been in office one fucking day. at least give him the benefit of a doubt see what he can do and if after 4 years is the same shit then you can talk shit about him I am still pissed that my boy lost. I don't haveto give him the benefit of the doubt because I know what he votes for and I know what he's about. He's going to increase military spending, increase the empire, support israel, destroy your dollar, and has no plans to pay the national deficit. So wait.. what was the difference between him and bush again? Wow so you know the President of the USA huh? I wish I knew him. How do you know he's gonna do all those things? You need to stop reading nonsense shit from racist sites. Do you have a problem with him because of his last name or because he's mulatto? just be honest I know he will be doing these things because of what he's voted on in the senate and because of the people he's elected to his cabinet like Rahm Israel Emanuel and Dennis Ross. I don't like the mind set that anyone who doesn't support Obama is against blacks, thinks he's a moslem terrorist, or is a die hard republican that automatically hates democrats what his supporters seem to have. I have no problem with a black female president who wasn't even born in the country and is part of a political party i've never even heard of. I care about there stances on the issues that I think threaten the prosperity of the country (like the war in the middle east, the support of Israel, support of the federal reserve, and no agenda to solve the national debt). people accusing non-obama supporters of things like being racist, are just as biggoted as the views they are accusing people of having. Obama supports the murder of women and children in gaza. He will do nothing to solve the economic collapse of the dollar or the national debt, he will put pressure on(if not invade) Iran for no reason, and I know this because of the things he and his cabinet have voted for. and I know people will continue to support him until the first time he trips over words in a speach, or they make fun of him on the colbert report. I didn't say you were racist, I just asked you a simple question you can not answer for some reason. I really don't give a fuck if you are but just have the balls to say it that way I won't waste any breath on you. Your boy McCain already got over his defeat why can' you?? bennyhillifier By saying my news sources are 'racist websites' you're insinuating I'm racist. And for the record.. when did I ever support Mccain? That would be the day. My bad dude for insulting you but how can you say bad stuff about a president who's been in office for just 2 days? All I'm saying is whatever you heard or read about him is probably bullshit unless you have a time machine and already saw the future. there's a reason why american people elected him to be our next leader, like McCain said he inspired people. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:37pm - pam ""] NICCOLAI I SAID CONSERVATIONIST DOES. NOT YOU. I thought I'd say that a little louder. Since you obviously didn't hear me. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:39pm - niccolai ""] I know Pam, I was talking to Zyklon. haha. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:41pm - pam ""] From Project Vote Smart: * The Problem: Iran has sought nuclear weapons, supports militias inside Iraq and terror across the region, and its leaders threaten Israel and deny the Holocaust. But Obama and Biden believe that we have not exhausted our non-military options in confronting this threat; in many ways, we have yet to try them. That's why Obama stood up to the Bush administration's warnings of war, just like he stood up to the war in Iraq. * Opposed Bush-Cheney Saber Rattling: Obama and Biden opposed the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, which says we should use our military presence in Iraq to counter the threat from Iran. Obama and Biden believe that it was reckless for Congress to give George Bush any justification to extend the Iraq War or to attack Iran. Obama also introduced a resolution in the Senate declaring that no act of Congress – including Kyl-Lieberman – gives the Bush administration authorization to attack Iran. * Diplomacy: Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions. Now is the time to pressure Iran directly to change their troubling behavior. Obama and Biden would offer the Iranian regime a choice. If Iran abandons its nuclear program and support for terrorism, we will offer incentives like membership in the World Trade Organization, economic investments, and a move toward normal diplomatic relations. If Iran continues its troubling behavior, we will step up our economic pressure and political isolation. Seeking this kind of comprehensive settlement with Iran is our best way to make progress. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:42pm - niccolai ""] pam said:Where? Please show me. Because so far all you're talking about is his prospective ambassador...last I checked they don't get to decide who we go to war with. No, he doesn't decide who we go to war with. But he is the Middle east polizy adviser... So let's face it, he has some influence. anywho... find something true in this entire video. bennyhillifier |
| ________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:45pm - zyklon ""] pam said:From Project Vote Smart: * The Problem: Iran has sought nuclear weapons, supports militias inside Iraq and terror across the region, and its leaders threaten Israel and deny the Holocaust. But Obama and Biden believe that we have not exhausted our non-military options in confronting this threat; in many ways, we have yet to try them. That's why Obama stood up to the Bush administration's warnings of war, just like he stood up to the war in Iraq. * Opposed Bush-Cheney Saber Rattling: Obama and Biden opposed the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, which says we should use our military presence in Iraq to counter the threat from Iran. Obama and Biden believe that it was reckless for Congress to give George Bush any justification to extend the Iraq War or to attack Iran. Obama also introduced a resolution in the Senate declaring that no act of Congress – including Kyl-Lieberman – gives the Bush administration authorization to attack Iran. * Diplomacy: Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions. Now is the time to pressure Iran directly to change their troubling behavior. Obama and Biden would offer the Iranian regime a choice. If Iran abandons its nuclear program and support for terrorism, we will offer incentives like membership in the World Trade Organization, economic investments, and a move toward normal diplomatic relations. If Iran continues its troubling behavior, we will step up our economic pressure and political isolation. Seeking this kind of comprehensive settlement with Iran is our best way to make progress. Good post Pam! How the hell if you ignore someone completely make things better? Bush and Cheney were idiots for believing in that |
| _____________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:45pm - pam ""] "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. So it's unacceptable, and I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table. And it is important that we don't provide veto power to the United Nations or anyone else in acting in our interests. It is important, though, for us to use all the tools at our disposal to prevent the scenario where we've got to make those kinds of choices. And that's why I have consistently said that if we can work more effectively with other countries diplomatically to tighten sanctions on Iran, if we can reduce our energy consumption through alternative energy so that Iran has less money, if we can impose the kinds of sanctions that -- say, for example, Iran right now imports gasoline even though it's an oil producer because its oil infrastructure has broken down. If we can prevent them from importing the gasoline that they need, and the refined petroleum products, that starts changing their cost benefit analysis, that starts putting the squeeze on them. Now, it is true, though, that I believe that we should have direct talks not just with our friends but also with our enemies, to deliver a tough, direct message to Iran that if you don't change your behavior, then there will be dire consequences. If you do change your behavior, then it is possible for you to re-join the community of nations. Now, it may not work, but one of things we've learned is that when we take that approach -- whether it's in North Korea or in Iran, then we have a better chance at better outcomes. When President Bush decided we're not going to talk to Iran, we're not going to talk to North Korea, you know what happened? Iran went from zero centrifuges to develop nuclear weapons to 4,000. North Korea quadrupled its nuclear capability. We've got to try to have talks understanding that we're not taking military options off the table." |
| _____________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:47pm - pam ""] Obama wants diplomacy, not war. And if your requirements for president are doing nothing, letting Iran have nukes, and sitting with our thumb up our ass than you're out of your fucking mind. Point blank. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:48pm - zyklon ""] Military option should not taken off the table but has to be the last resource |
| __________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:49pm - niccolai ""] zyklon said: niccolai said: zyklon said: niccolai said: zyklon said: niccolai said: zyklon said: niccolai said: arilliusbm said:an IQ of about 100 Strange. they are drastically intelectually ranging. Yet they vote the same on every political issue, and have the same stance on practically everything. We are looking at 4 more years of Bush, but at least the speaches will sound prettier. I guess nikko is still mad that his boy lost. The guy has been in office one fucking day. at least give him the benefit of a doubt see what he can do and if after 4 years is the same shit then you can talk shit about him I am still pissed that my boy lost. I don't haveto give him the benefit of the doubt because I know what he votes for and I know what he's about. He's going to increase military spending, increase the empire, support israel, destroy your dollar, and has no plans to pay the national deficit. So wait.. what was the difference between him and bush again? Wow so you know the President of the USA huh? I wish I knew him. How do you know he's gonna do all those things? You need to stop reading nonsense shit from racist sites. Do you have a problem with him because of his last name or because he's mulatto? just be honest I know he will be doing these things because of what he's voted on in the senate and because of the people he's elected to his cabinet like Rahm Israel Emanuel and Dennis Ross. I don't like the mind set that anyone who doesn't support Obama is against blacks, thinks he's a moslem terrorist, or is a die hard republican that automatically hates democrats what his supporters seem to have. I have no problem with a black female president who wasn't even born in the country and is part of a political party i've never even heard of. I care about there stances on the issues that I think threaten the prosperity of the country (like the war in the middle east, the support of Israel, support of the federal reserve, and no agenda to solve the national debt). people accusing non-obama supporters of things like being racist, are just as biggoted as the views they are accusing people of having. Obama supports the murder of women and children in gaza. He will do nothing to solve the economic collapse of the dollar or the national debt, he will put pressure on(if not invade) Iran for no reason, and I know this because of the things he and his cabinet have voted for. and I know people will continue to support him until the first time he trips over words in a speach, or they make fun of him on the colbert report. I didn't say you were racist, I just asked you a simple question you can not answer for some reason. I really don't give a fuck if you are but just have the balls to say it that way I won't waste any breath on you. Your boy McCain already got over his defeat why can' you?? bennyhillifier By saying my news sources are 'racist websites' you're insinuating I'm racist. And for the record.. when did I ever support Mccain? That would be the day. My bad dude for insulting you but how can you say bad stuff about a president who's been in office for just 2 days? All I'm saying is whatever you heard or read about him is probably bullshit unless you have a time machine and already saw the future. there's a reason why american people elected him to be our next leader, like McCain said he inspired people. I hear you man, but I really think with our economy being the way it is that we need a president that didn't vote to fund the Iraq war, that doesn't give 3 billion dollars of our tax money to israel every year, and that doesn't support the creation of our money based on debt. Taxes are too high, living standards are too low, and too many people are dieing. War is archaic to a fault, and I am willing to say anything I need to get the message across that too many innocent people are dieing, we're spending too much money, and our economy is hurting from this. I don't advocate war, I don't advocate preaching democracy in foreign nations that don't welcome it, and I don't think it's a good idea to give 3 billion dollars a year so that israel can destroy people that are no threat to the US. And I REALLY don't think we need to continue feeding our war machine when 85% of the American people don't support war in the middle east. Does that sound bigoted, racist, and republican? |
| _____________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:50pm - pam ""] I don't really know why I'm bothering. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:54pm - pam ""] >And I REALLY don't think we need to continue feeding our war machine >when 85% of the American people don't support war in the middle east. Neither does Obama. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 9:59pm - niccolai ""] Look, I hope you guys prove me wrong. I don't want the US to invade Iran. As it stands now, Iran is not a nuclear power. Israel is. They have nuclear weapons (which JFK wanted inspected weeks before he was killed). They use their military might to exterminate arabs. I would suggest reasons like that are why places like iran and Iraq don't support us. (which the leaders of iran and iraq have actually been quoted saying). I think if we didn't indirectly support things like the genocide of arab people, then we wouldn't haveto be affraid of arabs having Nuclear weapons (which it doesn't really matter if they did, how much damage do you HONESTLY think they could do to the US?) I want Obama to live up to the expectations people have of him, but from what i've seen on his and his cabinet's voting record, we have more turmoil in front of us. So let's hope I'm wrong. Let's hope he brings peace to Iraq, afghanistan, Palestine, Israel, and Iran. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 10:00pm - niccolai ""] pam said:>And I REALLY don't think we need to continue feeding our war machine >when 85% of the American people don't support war in the middle east. Neither does Obama. Then why does he vote to fund it in the senate, and why does he appoint pro-war conservatives to his cabinet? |
| ______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 10:08pm - pam ""] If Obama voted against "funding the troops" he'd be crucified for hating AMURIKA. He voted against the fucking war in the first place, but we're there, and they need shit. He voted YES TWICE on the conditional bill with the withdrawal timeline, Bush fucking veto'd them both. He passed the next bill because Bushie was not budging. What the fuck do you want from him? He also voted NO HERE on the amendment to ban timetables from bills concerning Iraq. Bill #1 with Timetable #2 He voted yes on this funding bill which tied in more funding for the GI bill, domestic disaster relief funds and unemployment. What a fucking dick he is. Clearly. Total war monger. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 10:20pm - niccolai ""] Like I said. I hope you're right. I hope I'm wrong. But to me, it's just not looking that way yet. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 22,2009 10:26pm - pam ""] Fair enough |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 10:37pm - Conservationist ""] niccolai said:By saying my news sources are 'racist websites' you're insinuating I'm racist. That's the liberal one-trick pony. Losing an argument? The other guy is racist. Zyklon just did it to me here. Not very intelligent, is it? |
| _________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 11:35pm - zyklon ""] Conservationist said: niccolai said:By saying my news sources are 'racist websites' you're insinuating I'm racist. That's the liberal one-trick pony. Losing an argument? The other guy is racist. Zyklon just did it to me here. Not very intelligent, is it? I don't think niccolai is racist but you are. you keep posting their links every chance you get to make a point. it's 2009 conservationist... |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 1:40am - Bob Barker ""] Conservationist said: niccolai said:By saying my news sources are 'racist websites' you're insinuating I'm racist. That's the liberal one-trick pony. Losing an argument? The other guy is racist. Zyklon just did it to me here. Not very intelligent, is it? Back off, Obama is metal. [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 2:06am - i_am_lazy ""] I saw there was a post by Bob Barker and was expecting something about always remember to have your presidents spayed or neutered. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 2:14am - Hungtableed ""] Obama is good, he has a D next to his name...all politicians are good, none are greedy shit bags... [img] All I was saying is that he is my president now and I support our pres. I never agreed with him but I will refrain from judging him until after he does what he does. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 23,2009 7:50am - Yeti ""] well that was an entertaining read at 7:45 am. so far i have seen nothing to say that Obama is going to fuck things up, i only see evidence that he is really looking to change things positively, and understands that he can't just wave a magical presidential wand and we'll all throw our weapons into a giant foundry. one big obstacle he has to overcome is that he wants to settle things diplomatically when foreign affairs are used to be strongarmed. no one is going to believe that he is willing to talk when for 8 years Bush held his boot on the worlds throat. its like one of those MMA douchebags who walks around flexing talking about how he can kick everyone's ass, then you get into a scuffle with him at a bar, and he says he wants to sit down and discuss options to resolve the dispute over a warm cup of tea. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 23,2009 10:24am - pam ""] Well that assbadger from Pakistan did send a letter of congratulations to Obama after the election...maybe he's willing. (I have no hope that he is, for the record.) |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 11:59am - Conservationist ""] zyklon said: Conservationist said: niccolai said:By saying my news sources are 'racist websites' you're insinuating I'm racist. That's the liberal one-trick pony. Losing an argument? The other guy is racist. Zyklon just did it to me here. Not very intelligent, is it? I don't think niccolai is racist but you are. you keep posting their links every chance you get to make a point. it's 2009 conservationist... It's 2009, which means truth is what it always has been, despite your pretense otherwise. What are these links you're complaining about? Provide examples. And please define "racist." It's the one insult you think will make anyone shut up when you're losing an argument, so you use it casually -- but you owe us a clear definition. DO IT OR YOURE A PUSSY FAGGOT ;) |
| __________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 5:09pm - niccolai ""] pam said:Well that assbadger from Pakistan did send a letter of congratulations to Obama after the election...maybe he's willing. (I have no hope that he is, for the record.) I dont get it. You want war with pakistan, you support a president who spends billions of tax dollars so georgia and Israel can kill people, but defend him by saying he's not pro war? and I'm the crazy one? |
| ________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 5:31pm - zyklon ""] Conservationist who's us? Your all alone buddy. Everyone is getting sick and tired of your negative bullshit, all you do is whine like a little bitch. I'm not gonna even bother posting your shit b/c you know what they are. Don't know what a racist is? Look in the mirror you inbred motherfucker |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 5:57pm - Lamp nli ""] Conservationist > zyklon This whole board > zyklon |
| __________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 6:04pm - niccolai ""] Lamp%20nli said:Conservationist > zyklon I like them both. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 6:18pm - Martins ""] Wait, Obama won? |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 6:31pm - Lamp nli ""] Obama Actually President, Nation Suddenly Realizes |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 7:35pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] HAI GAIS, DID U HEAR THE PRESIDENT'S BLACK?!!!!!@>>!??!? |
| __________________________________ [Jan 3,2012 1:39pm - nicccnli ""] zyklon said: I guess nikko is still mad that his boy lost. The guy has been in office one fucking day. at least give him the benefit of a doubt see what he can do and if after 4 years is the same shit then you can talk shit about him I gave him four years =] -Said he'd get us out of iraq (instead invaded pakistan 3 days into presidency, Iran's next. Still in afghanistan.. and germany... and japan.. and africa.. and korea... ) -Said he would recognize the benefits medical marijuana and take a states rights approach (increased DEA presence in california. Increased war on drugs budget which only makes drugs cheaper, and more available. People with cancer can't get the medicine that stops them from throwing up. People with epilepsy can't get the medicine that prevents their seizures) -Used the term 'humble foreign policy' (supports Israel's extermination of palestinians) -BAILED OUT THE FUCKING BANKS -Did nothing to prevent the real estate collapse -STILL hasn't lifted a hilarious embargo with Cuba -Hasn't decreased the military budget -Your taxes went UP YOU RETARDS :pukeface: |
| __________________________________ [Jan 3,2012 1:43pm - nicccnli ""] I forgot he's anti net neutrality and we don't need a trial to be detained anymore and the federal government doesn't need search warrants anymore and tupac is still alive. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 3,2012 1:53pm - ark ""] Niccc, don't forget that congress is to blame for the tax bullshit and a lot of other problems outside the presidents power. Also, GITMO is still open (relevant with indefinite detention) Obama is full of dirty banker money. The banks are hedging their bets and backing Romney too. Expect mainstream media to fling full support for Romney as "the only guy that can beat Obama" Not voting democrat or GOP this time. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 3,2012 1:55pm - nicccnli ""] Ron Paul is about to win Iowa. People don't realize that he needs only a tiny tiny amount of extra support to take the GOP ticket. and with the GOP nomination, he won't have ANY problem crushing Obama. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 3,2012 2:03pm - ark ""] Ron Paul's biggest contributor is the US Army. His foreign policy is bulletproof. There are a lot of things I don't like about the guy, but he's the only candidate that makes any sense in debates. I don't support a lot of his deregulatory policies (sorry libertarians) but I think he would make a strong president if only for his anti-interventionist and constitutional bent (hardcore opposition for patriot act, ndaa, and sopa) |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 3,2012 2:04pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] Obama will get re-elected after we start war with Iran. I have no hope for the future. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 3,2012 2:05pm - arilliusbm ""] For those of you who dont know, theyve moved the Iowa result location to a secret place because of "security concerns." This means Paul wont win and itll be fudged. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 3,2012 2:05pm - ark ""] Ron Paul is so far removed from GOP orthodoxy that I doubt they would ever nominate him. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 3,2012 2:13pm - nicccnli ""] arilliusbm said:For those of you who dont know, theyve moved the Iowa result location to a secret place because of "security concerns." This means Paul wont win and itll be fudged. They tally the votes at each caucus while voting goes on, then they send the the tallied results to an intel company (which isn't even a US company... I'm not even going to say where the company is from.. google it because you won't believe me) People at each caucus will wait for votes to close and report them to media outlets. It will be a hard vote for Obamney to steal. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 3,2012 2:16pm - nicccnli ""] ark said:Ron Paul is so far removed from GOP orthodoxy that I doubt they would ever nominate him. Unfortunately for them, It's the American people that nominate the president. Ron Paul winning the majority of states and NOT getting the GOP nomination is almost a godsend. People would revolt if the man that got the most votes didn't get the nomination. |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 3,2012 2:19pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] nicccnli said: ark said:People would revolt if the man that got the most votes didn't get the nomination. Didnt that happen with Bush's re-election? I dont remember a revolt then. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 3,2012 2:21pm - posbleak ""] Ron Paul will never get the GOP nom and I am thankful for his existence in this race, as it practically guarantees four more years with Obama |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 3,2012 2:22pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] i'm so fucking done with politics. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 3,2012 2:26pm - ark ""] I knew how Obama funded his campaign in 2008. I voted for him anyway because John McCain should have died in Hanoi. My politics tell me to write in Al Franken or Elizabeth Warren, hell I'm going to the ballot strictly to vote Scott Brown out of my statehouse. My federal vote doesn't matter but I'll probably throw it to Paul because he might have a chance to get some numbers and it would be an interesting 4 years. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 3,2012 2:30pm - ark ""] Tom, go vote for your state reps. That actually matters. The public won't support a war with Iran. It would be political suicide for Washington to do it. That just might be a tipping point. CAINT WAIT |
| _____________________________ [Jan 3,2012 3:21pm - Yeti ""] Yeti said:well that was an entertaining read at 7:45 am. so far i have seen nothing to say that Obama is going to fuck things up, i only see evidence that he is really looking to change things positively, and understands that he can't just wave a magical presidential wand and we'll all throw our weapons into a giant foundry. one big obstacle he has to overcome is that he wants to settle things diplomatically when foreign affairs are used to be strongarmed. no one is going to believe that he is willing to talk when for 8 years Bush held his boot on the worlds throat. its like one of those MMA douchebags who walks around flexing talking about how he can kick everyone's ass, then you get into a scuffle with him at a bar, and he says he wants to sit down and discuss options to resolve the dispute over a warm cup of tea. good fuck did i eat these words. what a calamity he turned out to be. that's what i get for having hope. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 3,2012 3:23pm - Yeti ""] arilliusbm said:For those of you who dont know, theyve moved the Iowa result location to a secret place because of "security concerns." This means Paul wont win and itll be fudged. this "Iowa" nonsense is ridiculous. so the other 49 states (well i should say 48 considering NH is politically magical for some reason) don't mean shit? |