what is the most hardcore death metal band ever
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[Jun 21,2005 5:11pm - king_of_the_mosh ""]
comon people speek your voive what is the most hardcore death metal band ever dont be shy:doublehorns::doublehorns::doublehorns::doublehorns:
:satancross:[Jun 21,2005 5:24pm - DreamingInExile ""]
hardcore & death metal don't belong in the same sentence...
for tech & brutality, I'll have to say the following:
Spawn of Possession
Suffocation
Necrophagist
Capharnaum (the 2nd CD, the first had potential but it's way underproduced)
Decapitated
(I know there's more, but those are the ones off the top of my head)
[Jun 21,2005 6:29pm - ArrowHead nli ""]
Only one band ever truly combined hardcore punk and death metal, and that would be SLAYER. And in thier case, it wasn't crossover, just originality.
[Jun 21,2005 9:26pm - Notorious_DUG ""]
Despised Icon
[Jun 21,2005 10:05pm - DEATH2ALL ""]
The Red Chord.
"it's not gonna be alright!!......It's not gonna be ok!!"
[Jun 21,2005 11:01pm - blue ""]
hardcore death metal? as in pure death metal? or hardcore infused death metal?
[Jun 22,2005 8:55am - DreamingInExile ""]
ArrowHead nli said:Only one band ever truly combined hardcore punk and death metal, and that would be SLAYER. And in thier case, it wasn't crossover, just originality.
Slayer owns my soul :newhorns:
[Jun 22,2005 10:34am - Jesus_Slaves ""]
Cannibal fucking Corpse
[Jun 22,2005 10:50am - dyingmuse ""]
ahhh, hardcore, and deathmetal....that's kinda a double negative...you can't be both, you just can't can you?
[Jun 22,2005 11:18am - Distrust-Kevin ""]
NAPALM DEATH
[Jun 22,2005 11:37am - dan_bloodblister ""]
What king_of_the_mosh does
slipknot'korn.systemofa down,chimeira,poison the wall, madball. gwar
[Jun 22,2005 12:40pm - Jesus_Slaves ""]
i hope thats a joke
[Jun 22,2005 1:05pm - danny p nli ""]
clearly its a joke and the guy is a fake poster
[Jun 22,2005 3:25pm - Jesus_Slaves ""]
this king of the mosh character is a complete knob
[Jun 22,2005 3:26pm - Hooker ""]
speak the voive .... with the death metal and the MEHOIVEN FLAVIN!!!
[Jun 22,2005 5:05pm - Notorious_DUG ""]
isn't hardcore deathmetal deathcore? I thought that was the point of the post. I could be wrong. In either case . . . Despised Icon.
[Jun 22,2005 5:54pm - Spaldino on a fucking mac... lame ""]
despised icon owns the the "deathcore" genre
[Jun 22,2005 6:10pm - The_ExhumeD ""]
GORGASM
[Jun 22,2005 6:45pm - dwellingsickness ""]
This thread confuses me, I never knew there was such a thing as Hardcore Death Metal
[Jun 22,2005 6:57pm - Notorious_DUG ""]
never heard the term "deathcore?"
[Jun 22,2005 6:59pm - dwellingsickness ""]
Oh yea,not familiar with any of the bands in that particular genre though I guess
[Jun 22,2005 9:47pm - blue ""]
#1: who the fuck said slayer? seriously. dumbasses. as we all know fifty times over, slayer is not DM, and nor do they combine DM and punk rock. they combine metal and punk, which is THRASH, der.
#2: napalm death? uh, no. sorry.
#3: YES, it is extremely possible for hardcore and death metal to exist together in the same genre: dying fetus, despised icon, dripping and COUNTLESS other bands combine these genres. christ, thats the reason why raising kubrick came into existence.
ok, my rant is done.
[Jun 22,2005 9:52pm - ninkaszi ""]
what a stupid thread with stupid opinions.
[Jun 22,2005 9:56pm - ArrowHead nli ""]
blue said:#1: who the fuck said slayer? seriously. dumbasses. as we all know fifty times over, slayer is not DM, and nor do they combine DM and punk rock. they combine metal and punk, which is THRASH, der.
I said slayer, dumbass. While you're right that they started off speedmetal/punk influenced, some of us bought later albums like Diabulos and hear the DM influences.
Thanks, have a nice day, learn to disagree without being disagreeable.
[Jun 22,2005 9:59pm - blue ""]
diabolus had DM influence? couldve fooled me. diabolus sounded like it was full of a lot of suck more than anything else. im sorry for the 'some of us' who bought post seasons albums. if they had actually picked up some DM influence, i wouldve probably payed attention to them again. i love disagreeing, dont get the ol' panties in a bunch.
[Jun 22,2005 10:03pm - Notorious_DUG ""]
ninkaszi said:what a stupid thread with stupid opinions.
way to prove your own point.
[Jun 22,2005 10:06pm - ArrowHead nli ""]
blue said:i love disagreeing, dont get the ol' panties in a bunch.
Honstly, blue. Of the two of us, wouldn't you be the more likely to wear panties?
:shocker:
[Jun 22,2005 10:42pm - blue ""]
ill admit it, you have a point.
[Jun 22,2005 10:44pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
yeah but Blue has fantabulous titties, so he's got a right to wear panties !
[Jun 22,2005 10:45pm - blue ""]
score!
[Jun 22,2005 11:31pm - Robdeadskin ""]
blue said:#1: who the fuck said slayer? seriously. dumbasses. as we all know fifty times over, slayer is not DM, and nor do they combine DM and punk rock. they combine metal and punk, which is THRASH, der.
#2: napalm death? uh, no. sorry.
#3: YES, it is extremely possible for hardcore and death metal to exist together in the same genre: dying fetus, despised icon, dripping and COUNTLESS other bands combine these genres. christ, thats the reason why raising kubrick came into existence.
ok, my rant is done.
blue i am stunned....Yes slayer may not be death metal...they started somthing beyond human comprehention twards d.m.......and napalm death is the perfect band to co -exist in this catagory of hardcore death metal...yes they might be grind,,,but they have achieved all styles and out lived many...
NAPALM DEATH is the best band ever...besides slayer
and also exhorder and suffocation..because they are my favs too!
but not right in this thread i think!!?? im drunk whatever!
[Jun 23,2005 12:00am - blue ""]
Robdeadskin said:blue said:#1: who the fuck said slayer? seriously. dumbasses. as we all know fifty times over, slayer is not DM, and nor do they combine DM and punk rock. they combine metal and punk, which is THRASH, der.
#2: napalm death? uh, no. sorry.
#3: YES, it is extremely possible for hardcore and death metal to exist together in the same genre: dying fetus, despised icon, dripping and COUNTLESS other bands combine these genres. christ, thats the reason why raising kubrick came into existence.
ok, my rant is done.
blue i am stunned....Yes slayer may not be death metal...they started somthing beyond human comprehention twards d.m.......and napalm death is the perfect band to co -exist in this catagory of hardcore death metal...yes they might be grind,,,but they have achieved all styles and out lived many...
NAPALM DEATH is the best band ever...besides slayer
and also exhorder and suffocation..because they are my favs too!
but not right in this thread i think!!?? im drunk whatever!
dude, dont worry. i am in no way shape or form bashing slayer. im extremely aware that they paved the road to death metal, but that does not make them death metal. and ND, while made a couple albums that had DM influences on them, i still dont consider them death metal. my personal ravings. not trying to shit on people here.
[Jun 23,2005 12:10am - Spaldino on a fucking mac... lame ""]
slayer is fucking gay
[Jun 23,2005 12:38am - Robdeadskin ""]
blue i dont think that!! just metal heads spitting opinion bro!
[Jun 23,2005 12:38am - Robdeadskin ""]
slayer rules!
[Jun 23,2005 8:21am - Joe/NotCommon ""]
ninkaszi said:what a stupid thread with stupid opinions.
haha
[Jun 23,2005 9:10am - GoatCatalyst ""]
WOW! Dreaming In Exile mentioned the first Capharnaum CD! I didn't think anybody had that, let alone LIKED it! WWWWWOOOOOOOOWWWWWW!
[Jun 23,2005 9:38am - yodaslab ""]
GORELORD!!!!!!!! vomit the world!!!
[Jun 23,2005 9:40am - hunterhunter ""]
napalm death Harmony Corruption is almost death metal
So is Utopia Banished
[Jun 23,2005 12:00pm - dan_bloodblister ""]
slipknot'korn.systemofa down,chimeira,poison the wall, madball. gwar
[Jun 23,2005 12:42pm - DreamingInExile ""]
GoatCatalyst said:WOW! Dreaming In Exile mentioned the first Capharnaum CD! I didn't think anybody had that, let alone LIKED it! WWWWWOOOOOOOOWWWWWW!
it had potential, and it definately left you wondering what the next release would sound like...
I think their drummer was 12 or 13 when that CD was recorded too.
[Jun 23,2005 8:12pm - Distrust-Kevin ""]
blue said:[QUOTE
#2: napalm death? uh, no. sorry.
I've always thought that the Lee Dorian recordings sounded alot like the old Agnostic Front stuff(minus the vocal style and the blast beats) and the 90's albums when Danny Herrera started doing sick 7/8 beats with the crazy fills and shit mixed with the blasts and skanks just took it all to another level completely.
So anyways, I definitely heard hardcore influence in them from the get-go. They have also done covers of hardcore songs as well.
[Jun 23,2005 8:18pm - Distrust-Kevin ""]
i mess up that quote thing
[Jun 23,2005 10:28pm - blue ""]
Distrust-Kevin said:blue said:[QUOTE
#2: napalm death? uh, no. sorry.
I've always thought that the Lee Dorian recordings sounded alot like the old Agnostic Front stuff(minus the vocal style and the blast beats) and the 90's albums when Danny Herrera started doing sick 7/8 beats with the crazy fills and shit mixed with the blasts and skanks just took it all to another level completely.
So anyways, I definitely heard hardcore influence in them from the get-go. They have also done covers of hardcore songs as well.
you may be right on all of that, but that doesnt mean they are a death metal band. which was my point.
[Jun 23,2005 11:15pm - TheSweeping ""]
If you mean 'hardcore' as in who was pure death metal and responsible for starting all this shit, then the choices are obvious.
Death
Obituary
Possessed
Slayer
Napalm Death
Nihilist/Entombed
Carcass
Kreator
Bolt Thrower
Cannibal Corpse
Deicide
Pestilence
The reasoning here is of course that every other band you guys have named is pretty much just derivative of the above list. Sure, they might be more 'technical', since they simply borrow the ideas of the above bands, then play a little faster, a little crazier, etc. Maybe they are dorks who know their scales better. Who the fuck cares. But these bands above are certainly mandatory influences. I'm not saying I don't like Decapitated or Goregasm or Capharnaum or any of that, but none of that stuff is as impressive or shocking today as these bands were back then.
[Jun 24,2005 2:27am - Paulll ""]
lol dripping has no hardcore. Old school ND was grindcore and grind core is a mix of Thrash, hardcore, death metal. There are plenty of "metalcore" bands out there I dont quite understand "deathcore" though. The best death metal band was Suffocation .However a lot of bands now take what they did and make it sicker. But suffocation made death metal brutal.
[Jun 24,2005 2:57am - blue ""]
i dont know, dripping was a always a band that drew in a lot of influences.
[Jun 24,2005 3:02am - GoatCatalyst ""]
Hey Dreaming In Exile - thanks for the words. I was the "other" guitarist on the CD (aka NOT his crippled hebrew majesty, but rather the short-haired douche). Jordan, the drummer (now sick wigger royalty) had just turned 12 when he tracked his drum parts. He's never not been amazing. It's kind of scary. Especially that now he doesn't even own a kit and spends his time making "dope beats". If you were into Capharnaum back then, check out Catalyst, my current band and the band of a couple other CT Capharnaum refugees that didn't make the move to FL. myspace.com/unholycatalyst. we're playing with obituary and napalm death at the webster in sept.
[Jun 24,2005 9:50am - rotmaster ""]
napalm death
[Jun 24,2005 10:28am - DreamingInExile ""]
GoatCatalyst said: If you were into Capharnaum back then, check out Catalyst, my current band and the band of a couple other CT Capharnaum refugees that didn't make the move to FL.
Yeah, I think I remember hearing you guys back when mp3.com was still around.
I'll definately check you guys out on myspace too. we should do some shows together sometime. catch me on AIM and maybe we can set somethin up!