ATTN Nerds: Installing RAM in my desktop tower[views:5629][posts:54]_______________________________ [Feb 27,2010 2:04pm - Pires ""] I know NOTHING about computers, except how to delete a system32 folder (which I have already done, and it wasn't the brightest idea). However, I'm trying to install more RAM as I only have 512 MB right now, and being that it is 3-4 years old, it's starting to work slowly. I want to install 4gb. It doesn't seem that hard (thanks youtube), however, I can't find just one 4gb "stick". All they sell is 2-2gb "sticks" in one package. Is that the same thing as one 4gb "stick"? And what is the difference between DDR, DDR2, DDR3? How do I know what my computer supports? Specs: Processor Intel® Pentium® 4 processor 515 Operates at 2.93 GHz; 1 MB L2 Cache and 533 MHz FSB System Chipset Intel 915GL Memory 512 MB DDR (400 Mhz), dual channel expandable to 4 GB Memory Technology Four DIMM sockets on the motherboard that support the following: * 2.5 V (only) DDR SDRAM DIMMs with gold-plated contacts * Unbuffered, single-sided or double-sided DIMMs with the following restriction: Double-sided DIMMS with ×16 organization are not supported. * 4 GB maximum total addressable system memory. * Minimum total system memory: 128 MB * Non-ECC DIMMs * Serial Presence Detect * DDR 400 MHz and DDR 333 MHz SDRAM DIMMs * Support for dual channel memory mode Video Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 64 MB Shared Video Memory Audio Intel High Definition 6-Channel Audio (5.1) Hard Drive 160 GB (7200 RPM, Serial ATA, 8 MB Cache) Optical Drives DVD +/- RW, Double Layer Multi-Format: * Write max: 8X DVD +/-R, 4X DVD +/- RW * 32X CD-R and 16X CD-RW Disks * Reads 12X max. DVD-ROM Disks * Reads 40X max. CD-ROM disks CD-ROM Drive: 48X max. Read Media Reader 8-in-1 Digital Media Manager supports the following: * CompactFlash Card * IBM MicroDrive * Memory Stick * Memory Stick Pro * SmartMedia Card * Secure Digital(SD)/MMC * USB 2.0 Modem 56 K ITU V.92 ready Fax/Modem Network 10/100 Mbps Ethernet LAN Interfaces * 7 - USB 2.0 ports (2 in front bezel, 1 in Media Manager, 4 on rear) * 1 - VGA external connector * 3 - IEEE 1394 Ports (2 in front bezel, 1 in back) * 1 - Serial Port * 1 - Parallel Port * 2 - PS/2 Ports (Keyboard and Mouse) * Audio In and Out * 1 - RJ-11 Modem * 1 - RJ-45 Ethernet LAN Slots 1 - PCI-E x16 1 - PCI-E x1 2 - PCI (one available) Bays * 4 - 3.5-inch (2 available) * 2 - 5.25-inch |
| ______________________________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 2:06pm - twinkle twinkle little slar ""] throw it off a cliff and buy a mac |
| _________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 2:08pm - reimroc ""] DDR is just the name of a class of ram. It has something to do with the timing and process transfer rates and other things that would bore even me to talk about. Anyways with your current set-up you would need to buy DDR class ram. 2x2 GB sticks is the same as one 4 GB stick. lolmath. You can also buy 4x1 GB sticks. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 2:12pm - reimroc ""] http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....62&name=DDR%20400%20%28PC%203200%29 Buy 2 of these and you have your 4 GBs. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 27,2010 2:12pm - Slag ""] [img] |
| _______________________________ [Feb 27,2010 2:21pm - Pires ""] reimroc said:http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010170147%201052107965%201052308477%201052407862&name=DDR%20400%20%28PC%203200%29 Buy 2 of these and you have your 4 GBs. would I be able to fit 4 sticks in there? |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 2:33pm - the_reverend ""] p4? throw it out. 4GB, you will need a 64-bit Os or only 3.2-3.5 will be usable. also, remiroc might be wrong. open your tower and see how many ram slots you have. with that PC, over 2GB is a waste. i have that 3GHz version of that at my work. |
| ______________________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 2:35pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] [img] RAAM, IN MY DESKTOP TOWER? |
| _________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 2:50pm - reimroc ""] the_reverend said:p4? throw it out. 4GB, you will need a 64-bit Os or only 3.2-3.5 will be usable. also, remiroc might be wrong. open your tower and see how many ram slots you have. with that PC, over 2GB is a waste. i have that 3GHz version of that at my work. I'm guessing he has 4 slots available but if he doesn't then yea he will just have to use 2 instead. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 2:51pm - reimroc ""] rev is right though 4 would be a waste with the OS you have. best to just get 2 GBs or completely upgrade your mobo, cpu and OS. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 3:03pm - the_reverend ""] then just buy another computer. unless you are putting win7 on this, it wont use more than 2gb and if it did, windows xp would used more hd caching so you would get slowed down after 2.1gb anyhow. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 3:14pm - LPCustom ""] Haha...RAM. |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 4:33pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Just spray some WD40 in the RAM slots so the data flows faster. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 5:23pm - Spaldino ""] i wouldnt waste the money on this rig. you can pick up a dual core computer with ddr2 ram (which is cheaper) for like 300 bucks. look around. i picked up a comp with a quad core phenom processor, 4 gigs of ddr2 ram (upgradable to 8), and 600 gig hard drive for 500 bucks a year ago. should be cheaper now. look around. you are gonna spend over 100 bucks for the ram you want. thats 1/3 the price of a new WAY FASTER computer. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 5:27pm - Spaldino ""] also my comp came with an hdmi port on the back so you can hook that shit up to your giant tv and watch downloaded movies or play wow on like 52" of screen real estate. shit is SICK. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 5:48pm - the_reverend ""] i agree with what spaldino says. it is the truth. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 6:13pm - Spaldino ""] by the way... i bought my computer brand new from BEST BUY for $534 with tax... just to put shit into perspective. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 6:19pm - Spaldino ""] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883147030 Brand HP Series Pavilion Model A6807C(NC825AAR) Recommended Usage Home / Home Office Processor Intel Pentium dual-core E2220(2.4GHz) Processor Main Features 64 bit Dual Core Processor Cache Per Processor 1MB L2 Cache Memory 5GB DDR2 800 Hard Drive 500GB SATA 7200RPM Optical Drive 1 DVD+/-R/RW 16X 12X +/-DL LS 12X RAM SuperMulti SATA drive Graphics Intel GMA 3100 Audio High Definition Audio Ethernet Integrated 10/100/1000 Base-T networking interface Power Supply 300W Keyboard HP multimedia keyboard Mouse HP PS/2 optical mouse Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit Motherboard Chipset Intel G33 CPU CPU Type Pentium dual-core Installed Qty 1 CPU FSB 800MHz CPU Speed E2220(2.40GHz) L2 Cache Per CPU 1MB CPU Socket Type LGA 775 CPU Main Features 64 bit Dual Core Processor Graphics GPU/VPU Type Intel GMA 3100 Graphics Interface Integrated video Memory Memory Capacity 5GB DDR2 Memory Speed DDR2 800 Form Factor DIMM 240-pin Memory Slot (Total) 4 Maximum Memory Supported 8GB Hard Drive HDD Capacity 500GB HDD Interface SATA HDD RPM 7200rpm Optical Drive Optical Drive Type DVD Super Multi Optical Drive Spec DVD+/-R/RW 16X 12X +/-DL LS 12X RAM SuperMulti SATA drive DVD-RAM: Up to 12X DVD-R DL Write Once: Up to 12X DVD+R DL Write Once: Up to 12X DVD+R Write Once: Up to 16X DVD+RW Rewritable: Up to 8X DVD-R Write Once: Up to 16X DVD-RW Rewritable: Up to 6X DVD ROM Read: Up to 16X CD-R Write Once: Up to 40X CD-RW Rewritable: Up to 32X CD-ROM Read: Up to 40X Audio Audio Chipset Integrated Audio Features High Definition audio Communications Modem 56K LAN Chipset Integrated LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps Front Panel Ports Front USB 2 Front Audio Ports 2 Card Reader Front panel 15-in-1 memory card reader: supports SmartMedia, xD, MultiMedia Card, Secure Digital (SD), Mini Secure Digital, Compact Flash I, Compact Flash II, IBM Microdrive, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, Memory Stick Duo, Memory Stick Pro Duo, RSMMC, MMC Mobile, MMC+ Back Panel Ports PS/2 2 Video Ports 1 VGA Rear USB 4 Rear IEEE 1394 1 RJ45 1 port Rear Audio Ports 6 ports S/P DIF SPDIF in SPDIF out (coaxial) Expansion PCI Slots (Available/Total) (1/1) PCI (1/1) PCI Express x16 (1/2) PCI Express x1 379 and that thing would SMOKE your machine even if it could read all 4 gb of your ram. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 6:41pm - the_reverend ""] tax? what's that? |
| _____________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:16pm - HTR ""] Free fix: xubuntu |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:17pm - the_reverend ""] i think you missed that he wants a desktop computer that he can run his applications on. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:24pm - HTR ""] the_reverend said:i think you missed that he wants a desktop computer that he can run his applications on. Yea, I just kinda skimmed. :spineyes: But realistically, unless he's just going to play video games, or use something that is very specialized, LINUX has reached the point where it has pretty much the equivalent software packages (for FREE). There is not a whole lot I use Windows for any more... |
| _______________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:25pm - Murph ""] DON'T TALK TO THE COPS. |
| _______________________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:37pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] i Just bought a new desktop at WALMART. I was going to build, but this ting had all the specs for cheaper CPU1 : AMD Athlon™ II X2 Dual-Core Processor 250u (1.6GHz, 2MB total cache) Operating System2 : Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit Chipset : NVIDIA® GeForce® 6150 SE Memory3 : 4GB DDR2 dual-channel (2 × 2GB) Expandable to 8GB 4 DDR2 slots total, 2 DDR2 slots available Hard Drive4 : 750GB 7200rpm SATA Optical Drive : 16x DVD±R/RW SuperMulti drive Write max: 16x DVD±R, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD+RW, 8x DVD±R DL, 5x DVD-RAM, 48x CD-R and 32x CD-RW Read max: 16x DVD-ROM, 40x CD-ROM Media Reader5 : Multi-in-one digital media card reader CompactFlash® I & II, CF+™ Microdrive, Secure Digital™ (SD) Card, miniSD™ Card, MultiMediaCard™ (MMC), MMCmobile™, MMCmicro™, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard™ (RS-MMC), Memory Stick™ (MS), Memory Stick Pro®™ (MS Pro), Memory Stick Duo™ (MS Duo), Memory Stick Pro® Duo™ (MS Pro Duo), Memory Stick Micro™ (MS Micro), xD-Picture Card™ Video3 : Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce® 6150 SE graphics Audio : 8-channel (7.1) high-definition audio USB Speakers Network : 10/100 Fast Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 port) Peripherals : eMachines® PS/2 keyboard and mouse Ports : 6 - USB 2.0 (2 front, 4 rear) 2 - PS/2 (keyboard and mouse) 1 - VGA 1 - High-definition headphone jack 1 - Microphone jack 6 - Audio ports 1 - RJ-45 Ethernet Dimensions : 14.2" H x 7.1" W x 16.2" D Weight : 18 lbs. (system unit only) Warranty6 : 1-year parts and labor limited warranty with toll-free tech support Software : * Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit * Microsoft® Works * Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2007 Trial7 * Norton Internet Security™ 2009 Trial8 * eMachines® Recovery Management * Adobe® Flash® Player * Adobe® Reader® * Google Toolbar™ * Nero® 9 Essentials * WildTangent® Demo Games9 Price : $398.00 fuckin A khed, works great. I was multitracking with Cool Edit, downloading with soulseek from 5 different people, burning a cd, watching a youtube HD video all at the same time, just for gits and shiggles. Not even a hiccup. When i started a virus scan is when it started gettin jiggy yeah I know, "eMachines aren't troo, blah blah blah" Fuck off, I have 2 kids and limited funds |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:38pm - arilliusbm ""] Brad. Imma have to buy that. That's a deal! |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:40pm - the_reverend ""] awesome, please find me a free version of: photoshop cs lightroom3 adobe audition adobe illistrator microsoft MSDN (only need C/C++/C#) microsoft communicator |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:42pm - arilliusbm ""] I have a free version of 3 of those things. Be more specific of auditin. 1.5 or 2+? 1.5 is waay better IMHO. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:45pm - Spaldino ""] the_reverend said:awesome, please find me a free version of: photoshop cs lightroom3 adobe audition adobe illistrator microsoft MSDN (only need C/C++/C#) microsoft communicator its called the internet, you can get all that shit for free if you look for more than 2 nanoseconds. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:46pm - the_reverend ""] spaldino please find me the free linux version of those programs that i use. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:49pm - arilliusbm ""] nevermind. Linux? Haven't used ubuntu in a few years. I was gonna upload illus, audition 1.5, and ps but oh well |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:50pm - the_reverend ""] i use audiotion 3 and 4. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:51pm - arilliusbm ""] Gross man. I hate everything after 1.5. Hell I prefer cool edit ;) it's not in my genes to like anything after adobe audition 1.5. My bad. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:57pm - the_reverend ""] these are all applications that i would need running on linux before i could switch to linux. linux is great for servers and embedded ssystems. thats about it. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 9:58pm - Spaldino ""] you cant use them with wine? it runs almost anything now-a-days. |
| ________________________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 10:05pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] arilliusbm said:Gross man. I hate everything after 1.5. Hell I prefer cool edit ;) it's not in my genes to like anything after adobe audition 1.5. My bad. Cool Edit is a great, easy to use bedroom one man band recording program. Although on this new desktop there is a slight lag in the monitoring of what i am recording, so i just mute it and I'm fine. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 11:44pm - xanonymousx ""] what you could do, is go to crucial then just put in your system info and they'd tell you what type of ram and how much your machine can support then you can either buy ram from them or use the information to go to new egg or something. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 27,2010 11:45pm - xanonymousx ""] the_reverend said:spaldino please find me the free linux version of those programs that i use. rev check out the show Hack5 on http://revision3.com i think you'd like that show. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 28,2010 12:32am - the_reverend ""] Spaldino said:you cant use them with wine? it runs almost anything now-a-days. cool idea. My windows PC isn't fast enough as it is... let me run a windows emu so that it runs even slower. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 28,2010 12:34am - the_reverend ""] xanonymousx said: the_reverend said:spaldino please find me the free linux version of those programs that i use. rev check out the show Hack5 on http://revision3.com i think you'd like that show.leet? |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 28,2010 12:36am - the_reverend ""] oh and get my Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED working on linux. |
| ____________________________ [Mar 2,2010 7:03pm - htr ""] the_reverend said:awesome, please find me a free version of: photoshop cs lightroom3 adobe audition adobe illistrator microsoft MSDN (only need C/C++/C#) microsoft communicator Ok: photoshop cs = G.I.M.P. lightroom3 = see above adobe audition = Ardour, Audacity, etc... adobe illistrator = Inkscape, Xara, etc... microsoft MSDN (only need C/C++/C#) = Fox, Pycxx, etc... microsoft communicator = Pidgin, empathy, etc... |
| ____________________________ [Mar 2,2010 7:07pm - htr ""] the_reverend said:oh and get my Nikon Coolscan 9000 ED working on linux. try VueScan |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:03pm - the_reverend ""] gimp is the shittiest program I have ever use in my entire life. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:05pm - the_reverend ""] I did try vuescan with one of the holders. It took me hours to get anything out of it and what I got wasn't any good. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:07pm - the_reverend ""] if Pidgin could connect to the exchange server at work, I wouldn't be able to use any of the phone system that we use and most of the multimedia stuff we use every day. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:09pm - the_reverend ""] G.I.M.P. doesn't do a single thing that lightroom does. and I meant lightroom 2. G.I.M.P. also doesn't support any of the RAW files that any of my camera use unless I process them in another program which takes any any reason for taking the pictures in raw. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:10pm - the_reverend ""] audacity does about 1/10 of what audition does and with a much worse interface. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:12pm - the_reverend ""] Inkscape seems to be the only applicaton that in any way shape or form comes close to what I would need. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:15pm - the_reverend ""] Pycxx isn't for C#, it's for python. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:17pm - the_reverend ""] so far, I've gotten about 1/1000 useablity here from these applications compared to what I usually have. Not to mention all the jumping through hoops to get that 1/1000. I do write most of my code in java/php with all my enviroments other than c# caring about the OS. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:23pm - xanonymousx ""] do you have a unh id? you could use that and get adobe student software for cheappp |
| ____________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:47pm - htr ""] Well we both have different wants and needs. For example, I think it's easier to do color separations in GIMP than in photoshop for screen printing, layouts, etc, but I'm not a photo/camera guy. Ardour is would be preferable over audacity and has good support for a lot of fire-wire devices. Like I said Linux dose not cover everything out there in the specialized software world, but for the average user who just wants to get online, burn CDs, email, do office stuff, and be entertained, I don't see a reason to spend $$$ on Windows or a Mac unless you have to. And for anyone who wants to try Linux, most of the ISO's have a live CD feature where you can try Linux without installing to your hard drive. It's a pretty groovy feature. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:53pm - the_reverend ""] part of my job is making live CDs. I also disagree with your statement. even with the latest ubuntu, something is always not right with the hardware support. then you go and get a new webcam and there a no drivers available. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:54pm - the_reverend ""] xanonymousx said:do you have a unh id? you could use that and get adobe student software for cheapppI have all these programs already and use them every day. This is about ethan thinking linux can do it when it can't. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 2,2010 8:54pm - the_reverend ""] people out there aren't going to go to the terminal to get things working. |