Clinton tells right wingers to go fuck themselves[views:7869][posts:55]____________________________________ [Sep 26,2006 2:32am - PatMeebles ""] ShadowSD said:WHATEVER number you accept have been killed as a result of Bush's actions is still vastly greater than the number killed by Clinton's actions. So you've done nothing to counter the actual point being made there. Except for the fact that all Bush did was follow through on the Clintonian policy of regime change in Iraq. And besides, this is like saying "well, Chamberlain's policies were better because not as many people died under him than under Churchill." Shadow SD said:If Bush really wanted to put troops in the Sudan, he wouldn't have put all our troops in Iraq; most UN peacekeeping forces are to a large extent American We've been pushing for the African Union to take control of the region, not just an average UN force. ShadowSD said:No, the main source was a Republican who spearheaded the whole project No, that's the guy who wrote the script. If you watch the movie, both administrations get the blame, while Richard Clarke looks like the messiah. ShadowSD said:The movie glaringly contradicted the 9/11 commission report. It's a DocuDRAMA. It can make up scenes, as long as it adheres to the general history that it's relating to, which is that Clinton, when handed Bin Laden on a silver platter multiple times, refused. ShadowSD said:At the end of the day, if those three things are true, you have to admit the movie is biased with a pro-Bush/anti-Clinton slant, regardless of whether the rest of the movie also criticizes Bush for stuff the 9/11 report says he should be criticized for. That statement contradicts itself. If it criticizes Bush for what he did wrong, then it's not being Pro-Bush. ShadowSD said:Let's say it's not 42% then, for the sake of debate. Certainly he spent more time vacationing than other presidents, even conservatives don't try disputing that. What conservatives do you talk to? Do you even think that Bush is ever REALLY on vacation? ShadowSD said:Last I heard, [Leiberman] still is a member of the party Well, it's not like anyone can stop the guy from registering as one. |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 26,2006 2:34pm - HailTheLeaf ""] Anti-Racism said:The last 3-4 American presidents have been scumbags. I'd go back further than 3-4..but yeah...pretty much. Clinton was definately a scumbag, but they impeached him for bullshit, he should've been impeached for Waco, or Kosavo, the first attack on the world trade center, or any other number of similar things. That said, the current administration is far worse and I'm glad he told them to fuck off. Bush was in office when 9/11 happened, Bush ignored the memos warning of an attack, and Bush sat in a classroom with a book he probably couldn't even read and his thumb up his ass for over 5 minutes after he was told about the attacks, and he blocked the 9/11 commision from getting documents. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 27,2006 11:38am - ShadowSD ""] This was just on the news five minutes ago about the memo the Bush administration received over a month before 9/11: "The August presidential daily brief, warning the President that there was the possibility of Bin Laden attacking, was specifically written by George Tenet's people at the CIA to try to get the President's attention. He was at his ranch, and they were trying to again alert him to the fact that Bin Laden was a threat. They had been warning, and as the 9/11 commission testimony indicated, George Tenet's 'hair was on fire' over this issue - so they didn't do anything, but they were trying to get the President's attention, they said, and it was too late." Andrea Mitchell, NBC News Washington Correspondent, 9/27/06 at 11:25 am on MSNBC Any President who's that out of it, whether Bush or Clinton, Republican or Democrat, deserves all of our disdain. Competence is not a left or right issue, it's a requirement we should all demand in our leadership; otherwise, national security becomes nothing but a catchphrase. |
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| _____________________________________ [Sep 27,2006 5:21pm - Anti-Racism ""] HailTheLeaf said:Clinton was definately a scumbag, but they impeached him for bullshit, he should've been impeached for Waco, or Kosavo, the first attack on the world trade center, or any other number of similar things. That said, the current administration is far worse and I'm glad he told them to fuck off. Clinton was an anti-Slav racist who attacked Kosovo to make himself look better, but Bush is a white supremacist male supremacist homophobe Christian who wants us all to die in his anti-Muslim crusade. Luckily, however, he is very far from being anti-Semitic and I'm thankful for that, yes. |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 27,2006 6:41pm - anonymous ""] Anti-Racism said: Clinton was an anti-Slav racist who attacked Kosovo to make himself look better, but Bush is a white supremacist male supremacist homophobe Christian who wants us all to die in his anti-Muslim crusade. Luckily, however, he is very far from being anti-Semitic and I'm thankful for that, yes. "very far from being anti-semitic" is a goddamned understatemant. Hes more loyal to the jews than he is to his own and you know it. |