Some enlightening facts for you Democrats out there.[views:5759][posts:63]______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:09am - Hoser ""] In just one year. Remember the election in 2006? Thought you might like to read the following: A little over one year ago: 1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high; 2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon; 3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%. Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen: 1) Consumer confidence plummet; 2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon; 3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase); 4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses); 5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars; 6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure. America voted for change in 2006, and we got it! Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him. Quote of the Day........"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." -- Barack Obama Part 2: Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing. Www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show /151.HTML Taxes under CLINTON-1999 Taxes under BUSH-2008 Single earning: Single earning: 30K - taxed- $ 8,400 30K - taxed $ 4,500 50K - taxed $ 14,000 50K - taxed $ 12,500 75K - taxed $ 23,250 75K - taxed $ 18,750 Married earning: Married earning: 60K - taxed $ 16,800 60K - taxed $ 9,000 75K - taxed $ 21,000 75K - taxed $ 18,750 125K - taxed $ 38,750 125K - taxed $ 31,250 Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened. PART 3: You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this: Boy, am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS. I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts. 1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77 2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html 3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html 4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! Verify at: http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.HTML 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html 9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html 11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana , crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht 12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf 13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm 14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States." Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. Are we THAT stupid? |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:14am - brian_dc ""] goddammit it's not the democratic congress it's not the current administration the economy is more than that I hate politics I'm moving to Europe |
| ______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:26am - aril ""] oh, I forgot. all of the republicans in the past 40 years have made this country so much better. face the facts and stop aiming your focus on the bipartisan blame. THIS COUNTRY IS DOOMED. WE'RE AT OUR DEMISE. CHINA WILL OVERPOWER AMERICA. It's not the fault of one specific political party; it's the fault of our own damn government and the false ambitions that've been supplied to its people. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:29am - brian_dc ""] there is no middle class, there will be no middle class, every empire gets about 300-400 years, we had a good run |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:33am - the_reverend ""] they are already stealing our english. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:36am - aril ""] that's exactly what America has been: a modern day Empire. You can only have so much power and influence before something comes back and bites you in the ass. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:38am - Joshtruction ""] We need a second American Revolution. Let the blood spill, and make this a better place. We have the right to bare arms in case the government gets too powerful. I'd say it's time and they are too powerful. Oh thats right, they are so powerful they have been taking away the guns and making us think guns are bad. Oh gosh, what are we going to do now? |
| ______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:40am - aril ""] I just want to know the truth about UFOs. That's all. I want all documents on Project Bluebook and various other censored documents. theblackvault.org doesn't suffice. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:44am - largefreakatzero ""] the_reverend said:they are already stealing our english. That's "Engrish" to you. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:53am - the_reverend ""] actually, it's chinglish. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:54am - the_reverend ""] http://www.wired.com/culture/culturereviews/magazine/16-07/st_essay |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:57am - Joshtruction ""] This country was formed on the saying "don't tread on me" yet the modern day country treads all over it's people. It doesn't sit well with me. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:01am - aril ""] there's so much hidden stuff in our government. too many classified subjects and too many secrets. i don't want no govament to tread on me no more. let's take some action. REVOLT! |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:01am - RustyPS ""] Everyone says we need more parties, and I used to think that way, but the more I think about it, I think we should have no parties at all. People who are Democrats or Republicans seem to blindly follow whatever their party tells them is right, and if you add more parties to the 2, people of that party will blindly follow that party too. If you eliminate the party system, it will be the only shot to get someone in office that is actually being honest for a change. The whole government needs to be overhauled, both sides suck. I don't follow politics because I feel most politicians are feeding the people the company line, but that's just how I feel about it. |
| _____________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:03am - ZJD ""] I think it's that damn democrat president. wait. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:05am - metal_church101 ""] Fuck all politicians on all sides of the fence. You have shit and worse to chose from every election year, no matter what seat and what position they are running for. Not one of them really have to work for a living. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:12am - Joshtruction ""] aril said:there's so much hidden stuff in our government. too many classified subjects and too many secrets. i don't want no govament to tread on me no more. let's take some action. REVOLT! sad part is the government is so powerful we can't revolt, and if we follow the system they control we will never be heard. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:14am - metal_church101 ""] Joshtruction said: aril said:there's so much hidden stuff in our government. too many classified subjects and too many secrets. i don't want no govament to tread on me no more. let's take some action. REVOLT! sad part is the government is so powerful we can't revolt, and if we follow the system they control we will never be heard. Exactly. Here's to you, washington :bartmoon: |
| __________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:22am - Grizloch ""] FUCK THE MEXICANS!!!! THEIR KIDS ARE BORN WITH RAPE ON THE BRAIN AND SUPERIOR UPPER BODY STRENGTH AND ENDURANCE TO MOLEST OUR NATIONS PURE BLOODED WHITE WOMEN!!!!! |
| ______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:43am - Yeti ""] the thing is, its easy to speak of revolution when on a message board, but just where IS the action? the government banks on the American way, bitch about it but continue life as usual. sure there are activist groups and some people who will stand up and fight, but until you've got like entire sections of the country fighting, it won't do a damn thing. there are too many differing opinions for people to unite. too many whiny bitches that believe that "peaceful resistance" will get you anywhere. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:44am - Yeti ""] it would take an astronomically huge event for people to unite and actually do something about the disintegration happening. like a country trying to invade us or something. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:45am - dreadkill ""] i didn't read the thread, but republicans and democrats are both silly brainwashed groups of people and if you identify with either group, you're probably a weak-minded person who can't think for yourself. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:46am - Yeti ""] yeah you don't need to read the thread, its the same shit thats been spewed time and time again. factoids we already know. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:47am - metal_church101 ""] Yeti said:it would take an astronomically huge event for people to unite and actually do something about the disintegration happening. like a country trying to invade us or something. I thought we were being invaded from Mexico with our non existant fence and ecouraged illegal alien sactuaries. United States of Mexico. Mexi-fornia. Mexas. You get my drift. Let's drink a Corona. :duffbeer: |
| __________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 10:50am - Grizloch ""] dreadkill said:i didn't read the thread, but republicans and democrats are both silly brainwashed groups of people and if you identify with either group, you're probably a weak-minded person who can't think for yourself.NO INTELLIGENCE ON THE INTERNETS!!! PERSONAL FOUL!!!! 10 YARD PENALTY!!!! FIRST DOWN!!!! |
| _______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 11:03am - aril ""] I've always liked comparing 9/11 to when Nero started to burn Rome. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 11:05am - brian_dc ""] nero didn't burn rome.... |
| _______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 11:11am - aril ""] the great fire of Rome happened during his reign but I've read some sources (though, not proven) that he planned it, regardless of his relief efforts. my roman history is extremely rusty anyway =/ |
| _______________________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 11:27am - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] brian_dc said:nero didn't burn rome.... but it did burn my cd! OH! |
| __________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 11:28am - brian_dc ""] OH SNAP! |
| _______________________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 11:28am - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] Hoser said: 3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase); ? huh? so before it was at NEGATIVE 5%? |
| _______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 12:02pm - aril ""] hahahaha, good catch. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 12:14pm - RustyPS ""] Yeti said:the thing is, its easy to speak of revolution when on a message board, but just where IS the action? the government banks on the American way, bitch about it but continue life as usual. sure there are activist groups and some people who will stand up and fight, but until you've got like entire sections of the country fighting, it won't do a damn thing. there are too many differing opinions for people to unite. too many whiny bitches that believe that "peaceful resistance" will get you anywhere. Very true. Like I said, I don't follow politics, but with so many differing opinions and beliefs mixed with stubbornness and ignorance, it's hard to bring about true change. |
| _____________________________ [Jul 8,2008 12:23pm - W3 ""] NEWS FLASH FOR EVERYONE THE BOTTOM LINE IS bennyhillifier |
| ________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 12:30pm - samyam ""] if people don't like the ways things are and are going to be, do something about it. Like already mentioned, posting on a message board will do nothing. You may be helping to make people aware, but that's all it does. Our country is to content with their fatselves that we'll read about the problems, piss and moan about them AND THEN sit back down with a whopper and a budweiser. The same goes for people who don't vote, don't bitch if you weren't part of the process. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 12:32pm - W3 nli ""] samyam said:sit back down with a whopper and a budweiser. dood who are you hanging out with, its all about Jack 'n the Box and New Castle and as an American I'm proud to say what. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 12:33pm - brian_dc ""] I have no desire to stop the country from failing. It's a runaway train. I'm gonna sit back with a whopper and a budweiser and enjoy the ride I've been writing in Stay-Puft for every major position ever since I've reached voting age. It's just as good as voting for a major candidate. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 3:10pm - Conservationist ""] Some cultures last longer than others. Liberalism -- individual > collective goal -- is what destroys empires. You can't blame the Democrats for oil prices, but you can blame Clinton for the post-2000 depression. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 3:20pm - metal_church101 ""] "Liberalism is a mental disorder" |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 3:28pm - Eatshitanddie ""] OMG hoser the redneck blames democrats for everything. Big surprise! Did you overhear this stuff at the nascar race or the tractor pull? Both parties suck - get a clue shit for brains! |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 3:44pm - swamplorddvm ""] Taxes aren't a bad thing. republicans cut funding to social programs before they start to take effect. These things take time. instant gradification doesn't work. One must wait for the crops to grow. waaa boohoo I want to waste my money on material crap! I don't wanna pay my taxes! Sure more spending = better ecomny. but a better economy doesnt mean a just society. republicans wanted less government control is business. look where that left us. Anyways, both parties are full of crooks and liars (politians). |
| ______________________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 3:50pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] swamplorddvm said:Taxes aren't a bad thing. republicans cut funding to social programs before they start to take effect. These things take time. instant gradification doesn't work. One must wait for the crops to grow. waaa boohoo I want to waste my money on material crap! I don't wanna pay my taxes! Sure more spending = better ecomny. but a better economy doesnt mean a just society. republicans wanted less government control is business. look where that left us. Anyways, both parties are full of crooks and liars (politians). neither does yer spellcheck |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 4:29pm - Grizloch ""] FUCK PENS!!!!!!!!!! AMERICA'S NEW NUMBER ONE THREAT= POLITIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!! ... |
| ____________________________ [Jul 8,2008 5:11pm - pam ""] Anyone got a video link for Bush bragging about his veto pen?? Cause that'd be good. |
| ____________________________ [Jul 8,2008 5:19pm - pam ""] Actually maybe a quick lesson on how congress works...namely the part about how a slight majority means dick because you can't overturn a veto without 2/3rds of the congress- which the "democratic congress" doesn't have. But by all means, keep blaming them for the Republican administration's failures. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:11pm - powerkok ""] I want to shoot so many of you in the face, right now |
| ______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:13pm - Hoser ""] Joshtruction said:This country was formed on the saying "don't tread on me" yet the modern day country treads all over it's people. It doesn't sit well with me. Amen |
| ______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:15pm - Hoser ""] pam said:Actually maybe a quick lesson on how congress works...namely the part about how a slight majority means dick because you can't overturn a veto without 2/3rds of the congress- which the "democratic congress" doesn't have. But by all means, keep blaming them for the Republican administration's failures. Did you read the post? |
| ______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:17pm - Hoser ""] I'm not merely posting a rant against the Dems. I actually thought about re-wording the title, but then I just decided that it would grab more attention if I left it in the original context that it was written in. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:17pm - Hoser ""] Sorry to whoever it pissed off. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:17pm - Hoser ""] But...it's true. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:20pm - yummy ""] Fuck all of you except for Hoser. He's the only one making a difference. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:21pm - powerkok ""] dont be sorry. just shoot them in the face. fine, Ill do it |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:23pm - powerkok ""] dems=massholes. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:24pm - powerkok ""] reps=texholes |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:26pm - the_reverend ""] and slowly newhamshaholes. the live commie or die nh transplants. but hoser said sorry.. maybe it was he who had his balls removed. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:28pm - powerkok ""] iwas gonna say southern nh but really thats just northern mass |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:31pm - powerkok ""] ps3 input sux worse than yer stupid illegible spam filer |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:33pm - the_reverend ""] you got spam blocked while logged in? that shouldn't happen. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:40pm - powerkok ""] no...I logged in cuz ps3 dosent stay logged in, and I got sick of inputting 0f6d or was it 0f8D or was it Df8(6) D (o)...fuck it. I logged in. I just hooked up my mouse and keyboard tho, to write this. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:49pm - the_reverend ""] oh yeah, your compy shit it's self. logitech has a media bluetooth kb that I want for the ps3 (if it works with it that is). the bottom line of this thread is that the government show shit itself. we need to become a little more protectionist, have the government grow in r&d for power, employ the unemployed like in the new deal to get local projects done with all our excess man power, and give me my god damn hover bike. shit. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 8:59pm - powerkok ""] yes. Employing the unemployed is the key. Even if it has to be by force, for the freeloader types. Outsourcing is a problem, beyond the typical 'theyre just jobs no american wants' bullshit. Ask the next Circle K 'associate' you see, if they would rather work there, or answering phone calls for Dell. that said.....hover bikes! Any poor schmuck can ROLL, but only the real ballers can float down the skrip! Ya man, not only did my comp shit, but 2 days ago, my beloved backup, the 2001 ebuddy a900 desknote laptop hard drive starting making noises like hamsters were in there opening doors. It took a few hours of that nonsense before it just stopped booting. All done. Getting a new PC in a few weeks, and will cry for the duration of said delivery. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 8,2008 9:03pm - powerkok ""] Sorry to temporarily hijack this thread, Hoser, but Rev, did u get the 2.41 update today? Dunno if I could do it b4, but Im online AND listening to mp3s. wowzers. Oh and they added a clock. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 9,2008 7:49pm - swamplorddvm ""] IllinoisEnemaBradness said: swamplorddvm said:Taxes aren't a bad thing. republicans cut funding to social programs before they start to take effect. These things take time. instant gradification doesn't work. One must wait for the crops to grow. waaa boohoo I want to waste my money on material crap! I don't wanna pay my taxes! Sure more spending = better ecomny. but a better economy doesnt mean a just society. republicans wanted less government control is business. look where that left us. Anyways, both parties are full of crooks and liars (politians). neither does yer spellcheck Always the best rebuttal on rttp. |