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[Feb 17,2009 4:30pm - sacreligion ""]
the guy who posts on here as lamp really isn't a lamp?
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[Feb 17,2009 4:32pm - arilliusbm ""]
i don't know but it's a good thing there isn't a "coffee table" or "end piece" that posts here
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[Feb 17,2009 4:33pm - sacreligion ""]
fishcakes must smell bad
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[Feb 17,2009 4:45pm - MikeofdecrepitudE ""]

arilliusbm said:i've heard stories of people taking doses of DMT and literally "talking" to aliens and dimensional beings. some believe it as a temporary gateway to other dimensions


I subscribe to this belief. It allows the user to achieve what I consider to be "4th dimensional" consciousness.
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[Feb 17,2009 9:19pm - ouchdrummer ""]
yeah, it's called the logos.
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[Feb 17,2009 9:30pm - ouchdrummer ""]
Rick Strassman wrote a book ya'll should read. It's called "The Spirit Molecule". It is basically a journal by the one doctor who EVER did a government funded study using human subjects for DMT testing. It was all done IV, it was 99.999% pure DMT made in a government lab. All the people knew exactely what they were getting into, and i'll tell ya... I've done DMT more times than most anyone, but these people have the same exact type of strange communication with "machine transforming elves" or "Hyper intelligent pan-dimensional beings"... I don't really believe you shift through realities/dimensions... but it REALLY feels that way.
When it comes on strong from a big freebased hit, it's the wierdest thing you'd ever feel. your entire reality swirls into abstract art, and suddenly you can't see or feel your body, you're floating energy experiencing something you can't even comprehend. I still can't "understand" what's happens when i do it. I love it.
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[Feb 17,2009 11:05pm - My_Dying_Bride ""]
why would you go back to reality after this?
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[Feb 17,2009 11:30pm - Lamp ""]

sacreligion said:the guy who posts on here as lamp really isn't a lamp?


My light bulb burned out years ago.
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[Feb 18,2009 12:52am - douchebag_patrol ""]
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[Feb 18,2009 3:42am - deadlikemurf ""]

Lamp said:
sacreligion said:the guy who posts on here as lamp really isn't a lamp?


My light bulb burned out years ago.



but your legend neveeeeeeer dddddddiiiiiiiiiid.




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[Feb 18,2009 7:33am - MikeofdecrepitudE ""]

ouchdrummer said:yeah, it's called the logos.


Well, the word Logos stems as far back as ancient Greece, and has been interpreted in different ways. McKenna, for one, describes the logos as a voice he hears during his psychedelic journey's (the "divine word"?), which ties into his concept of the "other". I don't think we can successfully describe, or place a specific name on the alien realms DMT can propel us into. Due to its highly subjective nature, I prefer the term "4th dimensional consciousness", because it defines the phenomenon in a more modern context. DMT and psychedelic's in general, prove that the mind operates like a radio. You change the station and suddenly you're experiencing a completely different channel (wave-length). I believe that esoteric forms of meditation can achieve this without the aid of a chemical or organic catalyst, but DMT can instantly facilitate the direct experience with the indescribable beyond.
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[Feb 18,2009 7:39am - MikeofdecrepitudE ""]
I'd recommend reading Jeremy Narby's "The Cosmic Serpent" if you're more interested in Ayahuasca-based DMT consumption and shamanic ritual. The hypothesis that Narby puts forth, which makes connections between the Ayahuasca experience and molecular biology is quite intriguing. I also wish Strassman could have gone further in his experiments with DMT. I feel he was only being to scratch the surface. Hopefully MAPS will attempt more psychedelic therapies with DMT; I'm not sure what they're up to these days.
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[Feb 18,2009 7:55am - MikeofdecrepitudE ""]

My_Dying_Bride said:why would you go back to reality after this?


The conditioned, western mind could not exist in these altered states of consciousness 24 hours a day; they're extremely overwhelming. Eventually the lines between reality and imagination would blur and you'd most likely slip into madness. Plus, Peruvian Ayahuasquero's can consume high amounts of Ayahuasca and Tobacco that would kill a regular person.
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[Feb 18,2009 8:45am - ouchdrummer ""]
I just wanna say, with people like me, and MikeofdecreptitudE talking about it, it seems that it would be wonderful for anyone. Which it is for most, but it's so intense that there are people who absolutely hate it. I AM an advocate of trying this substance, and even doing it frequently if you can handle it. It makes you look at your own existence in total ego-less ways that help you identify priorities/problems/and goals within your life. With all of that said though, I don't think Ayahuasca/DMT should be treated lightly.

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