News Article: Bush to give "clear" plan for success in Iraq tonight[views:6317][posts:81]______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 2:19pm - the_reverend ""] http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/28/bush.speech/index.html this is going to be a bunch of horse shit, I can taste it already. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 2:27pm - SacreligionNLI ""] i was in 10th grade when he was elected and i barely knew anything about anything...but i could taste the horseshit back then |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 2:37pm - the_reverend ""] oops.. I think people are going to get confused between this thread and the korn singer thread |
| __________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 2:43pm - litacore ""] he has a strategery on Er-rack |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 2:47pm - yodaslab ""] FUCK BUSH! No doubt the worst president in history in regards to foreign relations, stable market economy, environmental laws and regulations, and national security. The only president to ever be elected after being arrested 3 times: 2 times for driving under the influence of alcohol and one time for possession of cocaine. what a fucking country!! |
| __________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 2:51pm - litacore ""] "It's a great country, but it's a STRANGE culture." --George Carlin. The Man. THE MAN. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 2:54pm - the_reverend ""] I listened to penises and rockets this morning. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 2:54pm - yodaslab ""] George Carlin is THE MAN no doubt about that |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 2:56pm - paganmegan ""] so why can't HE be the president goddammit? his speeches would be a little more, um, coherent |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 3:02pm - yodaslab ""] good fucking question, maybe we need a woman to run this fucking country. Perhaps instead of flushing this country down the toilet, as Bush is currently doing, a woman could see past all the bullshit and actually make a fucking difference! |
| __________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 3:06pm - litacore ""] yeah but someone like Hilary would be a bad move. She only gives a fuck about herself. Granted, she's a lot SMARTER than this current dill weed, so I guess I'd have to take that into account as well. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 3:18pm - the_reverend ""] a woman leader worked awesomely for the hesperian. and just look how they turned out... one of the most war fueled reigns ever. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 3:49pm - dan_bloodblister ""] i think it should be required by law for anyone who says 'gwb is the worst president ever' to have to add their top 5 list for best and worst presidents, because that is the most 'hey im gonna talk out of my ass' statement possible. im by no means a fan of w, but come on dude. hes not the worst president of all time. not yet anyways. grant, jackson, buchanan, harding, nixon.....all worse presidents... |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 4:21pm - the_reverend ""] the current president is always the worst. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 5:37pm - eddienli ""] yodaslab said:FUCK BUSH! No doubt the worst president in history in regards to foreign relations, stable market economy, environmental laws and regulations, and national security. The only president to ever be elected after being arrested 3 times: 2 times for driving under the influence of alcohol and one time for possession of cocaine. what a fucking country!! Do people have no historical knowledge? Hoover by far dumbass. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 6:06pm - BestialOnslaught ""] Historically, Bush may not be the worst, but really, in this day and age, it's as easy as ever for politicians to be corrupt, it's as easy as ever for them to set terrible foreign/domestic policy precedents and it's as easy as ever for them to abuse their offices. The executive branch, and more specifically the office of the president, has essentially continued to stretch over its entire 216 year existence like a rubber band, never returning to its original size... Times of crises in particular cause great stretching, expanding of executive power that is very rarely relinquished by future presidents, regardless of political orientation. The past 4 years have been a definite period of stretching executive authority, perhaps further than in any other presidency so far, so I don't think it's totally out of bounds or ignorant to assess Bush to be the worst. Helen Thomas was in the front row asking questions of 9 presidents and she has certainly made clear her opinions of Dubya, and I think that holds some significant weight coming from someone who interacted closely with Nixon. Jackson was a notorious Injun killer prior to office and was not a polished statesman, but his legacy isn't entirely negative. Grant, Buchanan and Harding were poor presidents but not actively destructive to the country in the way Bush II has been. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 6:12pm - DomesticTerror ""] yodaslab said:good fucking question, maybe we need a woman to run this fucking country. Perhaps instead of flushing this country down the toilet, as Bush is currently doing, a woman could see past all the bullshit and actually make a fucking difference! women don't understand the 3 Stooges. How the hell are they supposed to understand the complex world of the career politician... c'mon, that was funny! |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 6:37pm - dan_bloodblister ""] BestialOnslaught said: The past 4 years have been a definite period of stretching executive authority, perhaps further than in any other presidency so far, so I don't think it's totally out of bounds or ignorant to assess Bush to be the worst. if thats what we are going on, then maybe abraham lincoln should be considered the worst president...after all he suspended writs of haebus corpus a HUGE overstepping of his presidential bounds.. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 6:42pm - dan_bloodblister ""] also, i think that there could be a justification for any president to be considered "the worst". alot of people DO consider abraham lincoln to be the worst president. same with jfk. the fact that the president is the figurehead for a nation pretty much puts him kneedeep in any of the shit thats going on during his term...whether or not he was directly the cause. i mean, van buren had to deal with alot of jacksons shit...he isnt judged fairly because of that |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:00pm - the_reverend ""] ok, I'm listening to this retard in t-minus 5 minutes. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:03pm - the_reverend ""] sorry, he's on now. started off sucking off the servicemen beside him and their parents |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:05pm - BornSoVile ""] i'll tune it too. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:06pm - the_reverend ""] he's said nothing so far... |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:16pm - the_reverend ""] ok... 10 minutes and he's just been saying "blah blah blah". he just mentioned a "iraqi lead" operation... which was actually 1000 americans with about 120 iraqis. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:18pm - the_reverend ""] (and most of those 120 were in "field info") |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:22pm - wade ""] switching over from the 'Sox. yawn fest anyway. "It's hard work." how many times will that fall outta his mouth... |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:23pm - wade ""] "More Iraqis will step forward..." hahahaha |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:23pm - wade ""] "Democratic reformers in Saudi Arabia..." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:24pm - wade ""] love him popping in "morality". We have no ethics but we're moral so it's aight! |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:27pm - the_reverend ""] same bullshit. same words. there so far has been no need for this stupid announcement. it seems that a president with a continually sliding popularity grasping at straws. He looks really old now... his hair is almost all gray going towards white... he's obviously showing signs of being really stressed and he's got a lot more wrinkles now. Starting to look a lot like his dad did. some one's got a vietnam on their hands... |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:28pm - wade ""] this is so fuckin' saccharine (sp?) sweet and stagey. way to lay it out for us honestly...so far as expected. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:29pm - the_reverend ""] I heard him mention egypt and said "Egypt's not going to like that" will america like the draft? |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:29pm - wade ""] here we go....9/11. the ol' carte blanche trump card. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:30pm - the_reverend ""] wade, god bless you. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:31pm - wade ""] that was IT??! good fucking god....that was so ridiculously pathetic...i don't even know what to say anymore. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:31pm - succubus ""] i can't listen to him..when it came on aaron said "don't change the channel" .. like he could read my mind |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:33pm - the_reverend ""] oh... I believe that there are only about 40K total "trained" iraqi fighters and police. there are how many americans? 150,000? |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:33pm - wade ""] i hate paranoid theories and all that but seriously, the fucking brazen arrogance of this president is astounding. if his approval goes up, I'll be shocked. jaws drop everywhere... |
| ________________________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:35pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] I do not mean to exclude altogether the idea of patriotism. I know it exists, and I know it has done much in the present contest. But I will venture to assert, that a great and lasting war can never be supported on this principle alone. It must be aided by a prospect of interest, or some reward. - George Washington |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:41pm - wade ""] the_reverend said:wade, god bless you. interviewing Jason Netherton a couple years ago and we agreed, thinking critically about this stuff is suffocating. and that was TWO YEARS AGO. Gotta listen to the new Circle Of Dead Children now. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:41pm - the_reverend ""] if his poles go up, I will again be sad for humanity. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:43pm - wade ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said:I do not mean to exclude altogether the idea of patriotism. I know it exists, and I know it has done much in the present contest. But I will venture to assert, that a great and lasting war can never be supported on this principle alone. It must be aided by a prospect of interest, or some reward. - George Washington we're SAFER. we'll WIN (an impossible notion in this context) the WAR ON TURR. |
| ________________________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:45pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] wade said:whiskey_weed_and_women said:I do not mean to exclude altogether the idea of patriotism. I know it exists, and I know it has done much in the present contest. But I will venture to assert, that a great and lasting war can never be supported on this principle alone. It must be aided by a prospect of interest, or some reward. - George Washington we're SAFER. we'll WIN (an impossible notion in this context) the WAR ON TURR. hey hey how'd that whole crusades thing go anyways. did britian ever win or what. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:45pm - the_reverend ""] they need to bomb more brown people. my 401K needs to go up. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:47pm - the_reverend ""] britian's doing great! [img] if by great, you mean nipping at our scraps knocked out of the head of the world. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:50pm - wade ""] the_reverend said:if his poles go up, I will again be sad for humanity. oh fuck yeah, rev. his approval will probably get a nudge upward. enough people are easily swooned by these prepared speeches, that essentially are written with the language that gov't-hired PR firms have determined will have a positive effect. 911911911911911911911911911. Freedom. 911. Democracy. Brave Soldiers. 911. Sacrifice. 911911911. Win. 911. THEY WANT TO KILL OUR CITIZENS. oh yeah, 911. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:52pm - wade ""] can you imagine how many Bush would seduce if he could actually speak with passable conviction? |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:54pm - the_reverend ""] yeah, his speech sounded so much like his dad's as the economy was going to shit and his poles were sliding into the toilet. very neverous |
| ________________________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 8:56pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die. or Bazooko's Circus is what the world would be doing every Saturday night if the Nazis had won the war. This was the Sixth Reich. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 28,2005 9:00pm - the_reverend ""] sign #1 nazi pope... [img] 'nuff said |