Adam Yauch (mca) of the Beastie Boys is dead[views:18788][posts:82]___________________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:18pm - arillius_the_white ""] http://m.pitchfork.com/news/46406-rip-adam-yauch-of-the-beastie-boys/ HEAF SEAU |
| _______________________________ [May 4,2012 1:19pm - KEVORD ""] Sad. |
| _______________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:20pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] [img] |
| __________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:22pm - arktouros ""] lol at pic. and well this blows a lot. |
| _________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:23pm - CurlyRed ""] Sucky |
| _______________________________ [May 4,2012 1:23pm - KEVORD ""] Old joke is old. |
| _______________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:28pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] All the best ones are. |
| _________________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:30pm - largefreakatzero ""] :( |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:31pm - Alx_Casket ""] Besides maybe one or two songs, beastie boys were always just a whiny reminder of why whitey shouldn't rap. With that said, sucks that he died so early. |
| _______________________________ [May 4,2012 1:32pm - xmikex ""] [img] |
| ____________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:33pm - trioxin_245 ""] GIRLS all I really want is GIRLS to do the laundry GIRLS to do... YOURE DEAD |
| ___________________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:34pm - arillius_the_white ""] Alx_Casket said:Besides maybe one or two songs, beastie boys were always just a whiny reminder of why whitey shouldn't rap. With that said, sucks that he died so early. Uhhhhhhhhh.... They were extremely influential in the development of a genre of music. doesn't matter if theyre white. |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:35pm - Alx_Casket ""] Tell me, who lists the beastie boys as one of their influences? I've never heard anyone mention their name in that context. |
| ______________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:35pm - ABastard NLI ""] :( |
| _______________________________ [May 4,2012 1:35pm - KEVORD ""] xmikex said:[img]Now that's funny. |
| _______________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:36pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Alx_Casket said:Besides maybe one or two songs, beastie boys were always just a whiny reminder of why whitey shouldn't rap. Good po- OH WAIT bennyhillifier > 99% of nowadays hardcore bands |
| _______________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:38pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Alx_Casket said:Tell me, who lists the beastie boys as one of their influences? I've never heard anyone mention their name in that context. ITT: dudes ashamed of listing white guys as influential, still steal from shamelessly |
| __________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:39pm - arktouros ""] yikes. |
| _______________________________ [May 4,2012 1:48pm - xmikex ""] [img] |
| _______________________________ [May 4,2012 1:52pm - xmikex ""] Alx_Casket said:Tell me, who lists the beastie boys as one of their influences? I've never heard anyone mention their name in that context. this. |
| ____________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:56pm - trioxin_245 ""] xmikex said: Alx_Casket said:Tell me, who lists the beastie boys as one of their influences? I've never heard anyone mention their name in that context. this. not that it matters, but I have definitely at least heard eminem mention them. in b4 "who cares eminem is gay, bla bla" he's still pretty damn big |
| ___________________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:57pm - arillius_the_white ""] So the argument is that the Beastie Boys aren't influential because they're not listed a lot as an influence? Hahahha. |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:58pm - Alx_Casket ""] :point: arillius_the_white said:doesn't matter if theyre white. You haven't really given much of an argument yet, aril. You never mentioned what they influenced, and just laugh at my supported point. Tryharder. |
| ___________________________________________ [May 4,2012 1:59pm - arillius_the_white ""] Hitler said::point: arillius_the_white said:doesn't matter if theyre jewish. warning level raised. Fixed. |
| ___________________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:00pm - arillius_the_white ""] Watch it. Watch all the MCs come out and show support now that he is dead. Mark my words, Alx. |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:01pm - Alx_Casket ""] Damn, I edited my post after you quoted me :| Still, you're immature and have no argument. |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:02pm - Alx_Casket ""] arillius_the_white said:Watch it. Watch all the MCs come out and show support now that he is dead. Mark my words, Alx. Obvi, I'm sure there will be tribute albums and much pac love. You can expect that if anyone who made some hit records croaked. |
| ___________________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:07pm - arillius_the_white ""] You think a bunch of bling bling inner city black guys would have the balls to admit the music they participate in was influenced by some scrawny white Jewish NYC kids in the 80s? The argument here is how they affected the development of a genre. I think the counter argument has no reason to be said. You're a fool for not realizing their importance. Give it up. |
| __________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:08pm - narkybark ""] beastie boys were fucking terrible. |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:11pm - Alx_Casket ""] arillius_the_white said:Give it up. No, you. [img] |
| _____________________________ [May 4,2012 2:12pm - Lamp ""] Alx_Casket said:Besides maybe one or two songs, beastie boys were always just a whiny reminder of why whitey shouldn't rap. With that said, sucks that he died so early. That's racist. Nobody should be rapping, regardless of the color of their skin. Worst genre of music ever. |
| __________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:15pm - arktouros ""] [img] |
| __________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:16pm - arktourOs ""] rap isn't music, it's rap. |
| _____________________________ [May 4,2012 2:18pm - Lamp ""] Okay, with my asshole statement out of the way, the Beastie Boys were something I listened to and took enjoyment in as a kid. The news did startle me for a second because I hadn't heard anything about the guy's cancer, but when it comes down to it, the music just hasn't been relevant to me in ages. I briefly considered going back and listening to some of it but so much more of me was just like "nahhhh" that I didn't bother. 47/48 is too young to die. |
| __________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:20pm - nagoodak ""] I have been influenced by the Beasties. Paul's Boutique is proof of how good sampling can be. RIP I still say if rap isn't music than neither is metal. |
| _____________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:20pm - the_reverend ""] the 4th wasn't with him. |
| ___________________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:21pm - arillius_the_white ""] Licensed to Ill ('86) was the first "rap" album to reach no.1 on US Billboards. YET NOBODY IS INFLUECED BY THEM, RIGHT? |
| _____________________________ [May 4,2012 2:22pm - Lamp ""] I think of rap as poetry set to a beat. Not really the most challenging genre from a structural soundpoint, I guess, but it still takes skill. I just HATE (and I mean really hate) the way it sounds. |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:23pm - Alx_Casket ""] The new khand track does have some beastie boys influence, I take it all back. |
| __________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:23pm - arktouros ""] well technically it's not. rap isn't based on notes. it can't really be transcribed. yeah rap "contains" music but by the classical definition of music, it's not, whereas metal is. rap is still a temporal art. it's not devalued just because you can't call it "music". anyway it's a stupid timeless argument. rap is rap. |
| ______________________________ [May 4,2012 2:24pm - yummy ""] Saying that the Beastie Boys had no influence on me would be like pretending I never ate pasta |
| __________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:26pm - dreadkill ""] the guy was a hell of a flautist |
| __________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:39pm - narkybark ""] monotone into a mic with echo effects about it |
| _____________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:45pm - beastie fan ""] bennyhillifier |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:47pm - Alx_Casket ""] I'm sure they've inspired many auctioneers' flow. I do like hip hop, sampling, and I find the turntablism movement pretty interesting. They had some catchy melodies, but I wouldn't say they were huge influences on any of those things. |
| ________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:58pm - RustyPS ""] Alx_Casket said:I'm sure they've inspired many auctioneers' flow. I do like hip hop, sampling, and I find the turntablism movement pretty interesting. They had some catchy melodies, but I wouldn't say they were huge influences on any of those things.Then you're not paying attention. |
| _______________________________ [May 4,2012 2:58pm - KEVORD ""] Rappers never give props to the Beasties? bennyhillifier |
| ____________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:58pm - trioxin_245 ""] wow this thread is still going? jesus. |
| __________________________________ [May 4,2012 2:59pm - arktouros ""] RustyPS said: Alx_Casket said:I'm sure they've inspired many auctioneers' flow. I do like hip hop, sampling, and I find the turntablism movement pretty interesting. They had some catchy melodies, but I wouldn't say they were huge influences on any of those things.Then you're not paying attention. seriously dude. before licensed to ill the term "gangsta rap" didn't even exist. funny that it started off as a joke. |
| ___________________________________________ [May 4,2012 3:01pm - arillius_the_white ""] http://m.allhiphop.com/?device=66&url=http...&cms=wordpress×tamp=1336157598 GOOD READ |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 3:03pm - Alx_Casket ""] trioxin_245 said:wow this thread is still going? jesus. Just keeping the fire going with the sole intent of further ruining your life. |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 3:38pm - xgodzillax ""] alx is a self hating jew, because the beaties boys are jews, and apparently jews cant rap. |
| ________________________________ [May 4,2012 3:49pm - snowden ""] xmikex said:[img] Okay, that was kind of funny. Maybe Serch and Pete Nice will come out of the woodwork to bury the hatchet with the remaining Beastie Boys? |
| ______________________________________________ [May 4,2012 4:21pm - illinoisenemaBradness ""] arguing that rap isn't real music. seriously? really? [img] |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 4:50pm - arktourap ""] Missing my point. It's funny that people get offended by the fact that rap doesn't fit the classical definition of music. Rap has it's own definition. Go ahead and transcribe a rap song. You can't. Also lol again at the "if rap isn't then metal isn't either" chestnut. Don't get offended bros. Rap is rap and rap is not music, shit's been confuurmed by smarter people than you or I. |
| ___________________________________________ [May 4,2012 5:02pm - arillius_the_white ""] Snoop Dogg tweeted about it calling him a true pioneer. Bunch of other rappers and hip hop artists are too. NO INFLUENCE? Where are you alx, you need to admit you were wrong here. |
| ________________________________ [May 4,2012 5:19pm - RustyPS ""] This "if you don't play instruments, you don't play music" argument is so tired. The Beastie Boys were absolutely influential. If you don't get that, no amount of logical explanation is going to change your mind. Anyways, RIP MCA. What a shame. |
| _____________________________________ [May 4,2012 5:24pm - beastie fan ""] they all played instruments and did a whole instrument cd and tour. |
| ___________________________________________ [May 4,2012 5:26pm - arillius_the_white ""] Rev? |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 5:29pm - arktourap ""] Im just talking about the actual definition of thr word here |
| _____________________________________ [May 4,2012 5:34pm - hot carlton ""] arktourap said:Im just talking about the actual definition of thr word here http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Here |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 6:05pm - Alx_Casket ""] arillius_the_white said:Snoop Dogg tweeted about it calling him a true pioneer. Bunch of other rappers and hip hop artists are too. NO INFLUENCE? Where are you alx, you need to admit you were wrong here. OK, compare that to Michael Jackson. People gave credit to him as an influence all the time when he was ALIVE. Sympathy tweets don't count. I know you're smart enough to know that much. I'm not denying that they were a talented and successful group, but it pisses me off when the short attention spanned majority gives this level of attention to someone who most of us (let's face it) haven't heard about in years. When someone dies, all of a sudden our cohort sees it fitting to have an anniversary of their death every year and play their music on that day. It's as if you only play those songs to remember their lives. You didn't fucking know them! Music is music, listen to it when the mood strikes. Sorry I didn't immediately respond, I was grocery shopping in Chinatown. |
| ________________________________ [May 4,2012 6:17pm - snowden ""] arktourap said:Missing my point. It's funny that people get offended by the fact that rap doesn't fit the classical definition of music. Rap has it's own definition. Go ahead and transcribe a rap song. You can't. Also lol again at the "if rap isn't then metal isn't either" chestnut. Don't get offended bros. Rap is rap and rap is not music, shit's been confuurmed by smarter people than you or I. I think the problem is that you're using "the classical definition of music" and "music" as if they were the same thing. That's one way to look at it, but it's not the only one and certainly not the "right" one by any objective standard. |
| ________________________________ [May 4,2012 6:20pm - snowden ""] Alx_Casket said:I'm not denying that they were a talented and successful group, but it pisses me off when the short attention spanned majority gives this level of attention to someone who most of us (let's face it) haven't heard about in years. I don't think this "most of us," i.e. people posting on a New England heavy metal messageboard, are a very good barometer of a rapper's cultural relevance. |
| ___________________________________________ [May 4,2012 7:09pm - arillius_the_white ""] It is a commonality that musical relevance increases after death. Nice job pointing that out!! |
| __________________________________ [May 4,2012 7:21pm - arktouros ""] snowden said: arktourap said:Missing my point. It's funny that people get offended by the fact that rap doesn't fit the classical definition of music. Rap has it's own definition. Go ahead and transcribe a rap song. You can't. Also lol again at the "if rap isn't then metal isn't either" chestnut. Don't get offended bros. Rap is rap and rap is not music, shit's been confuurmed by smarter people than you or I. I think the problem is that you're using "the classical definition of music" and "music" as if they were the same thing. That's one way to look at it, but it's not the only one and certainly not the "right" one by any objective standard. oh absolutely. |
| ___________________________________ [May 4,2012 7:24pm - Alx_Casket ""] arillius_the_white said:commonality HATE that word. You win. |
| __________________________________ [May 4,2012 7:25pm - arktouros ""] alx we are in a state of total commonality in our hatred. |
| ________________________________________ [May 4,2012 7:54pm - Headbanging_Man ""] arktourOs said:rap isn't music Also, homework sucks, and never trust anyone over the age of 17! |
| _______________________________________ [May 4,2012 7:56pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Alx_Casket said: arillius_the_white said:Snoop Dogg tweeted about it calling him a true pioneer. Bunch of other rappers and hip hop artists are too. NO INFLUENCE? Where are you alx, you need to admit you were wrong here. OK, compare that to Michael Jackson. People gave credit to him as an influence all the time when he was ALIVE. Sympathy tweets don't count. I know you're smart enough to know that much. I'm not denying that they were a talented and successful group, but it pisses me off when the short attention spanned majority gives this level of attention to someone who most of us (let's face it) haven't heard about in years. When someone dies, all of a sudden our cohort sees it fitting to have an anniversary of their death every year and play their music on that day. It's as if you only play those songs to remember their lives. You didn't fucking know them! Music is music, listen to it when the mood strikes. Sorry I didn't immediately respond, I was grocery shopping in Chinatown. I feel like the hip-hop world has acknowledged the Beastie Boys' influence plenty by SAMPLING THEM NONSTOP FOR DECADES, to the point where it didn't really need to be acknowledged out loud. (Except, it has been acknowledged, out loud and in print, by tons and tons and tons of artists in the field. Since the beginning. How you are not aware of this is another discussion entirely.) |
| ________________________________________ [May 4,2012 8:01pm - Headbanging_Man ""] You guys are obviously forgetting the classic Dwell Records release No Sleep Till Beastie: A Tribute To The BEASTIE BOYS... Love BLACK WITCHERY's take on "She's Crafty" though I coulda done without the ROCKAPELLA track. |
| ____________________________________ [May 5,2012 2:46am - NSBM_SCENE ""] JEWS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY MUSIC |
| ______________________________ [May 5,2012 10:50am - BSV ""] some instrumental stuff is ok. sabotage was a cool video. never really been a rap fan. i never understood why they would got played on aaf or bcn all the time, must be cause their jewish. where can i hear the stuff they did when they were a hardcore band? |
| ___________________________________ [May 5,2012 11:10am - arktouros ""] Headbanging_Man said: arktourOs said:rap isn't music Also, homework sucks, and never trust anyone over the age of 17! Fuckin A. I LIKE RAP. i wouldn't group it next to schubert. GAWD. |
| ________________________________________ [May 5,2012 11:14am - DestroyYouAlot ""] BSV said:some instrumental stuff is ok. sabotage was a cool video. never really been a rap fan. i never understood why they would got played on aaf or bcn all the time, must be cause their jewish. where can i hear the stuff they did when they were a hardcore band? Most of it's collected on "Some Old Bullshit". |
| ________________________________________ [May 5,2012 11:16am - DestroyYouAlot ""] ^ chick from Luscious Jackson on drums |
| ________________________________________ [May 6,2012 11:31am - hungtableeeed ""] Alx_Casket said:Besides maybe one or two songs, beastie boys were always just a whiny reminder of why whitey shouldn't rap. With that said, sucks that he died so early. ...Wrong. Easily some of the best rappers around today are white as fuck. |
| ________________________________________ [May 6,2012 11:31am - hungtableeeed ""] bennyhillifier |
| ________________________________ [May 6,2012 11:35am - KEVORD ""] BSV said: i never understood why they would got played on aaf or bcn all the time, must be cause their jewish. That must be why they play Cypress Hill all the time too. |
| ____________________________________ [May 6,2012 12:33pm - xgodzillax ""] BSV said:some instrumental stuff is ok. sabotage was a cool video. never really been a rap fan. i never understood why they would got played on aaf or bcn all the time, must be cause their jewish. where can i hear the stuff they did when they were a hardcore band? bennyhillifier this is from 1996, this ep was all hardcore. also, most of their records have atleast one hardcore song |
| ___________________________________ [May 6,2012 1:04pm - xgodzillax ""] bennyhillifier |
| _______________________________________ [May 6,2012 2:21pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Notable: bennyhillifier |
| ______________________________________ [May 10,2012 1:55am - the_reverend ""] bennyhillifier |