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Obama's Gun Control

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[Jan 17,2013 8:16am - Yeti ""]
the only solution is ED-209.
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[Jan 17,2013 8:18am - Yeti ""]
everywhere.
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[Jan 17,2013 8:34am - arilliusbm ""]
The only solution to this is to invent lightsabers and bring back real melee combat.
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[Jan 17,2013 9:00am - North Korean Unicorn  ""]
The real question that begs to be asked is, when will our goverment step in and take away WATER GUNS from litttle asshole kids? Sometimes those fuckers have Super Soakers and those fuckers shoot far. Congress needs to call for stricter laws regarding this matter.

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[Jan 17,2013 9:17am - rand ark thor  ""]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders

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[Jan 17,2013 9:33am - xmikex ""]
THERE IS NO REASON FOR A CHILD TO HAVE ANYTHING OVER A SUPER SOAKER 50. LIKE THIS STATUS IF YOU AGREE.
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[Jan 17,2013 9:35am - arilliusbm ""]
Wow, the last two presidents.....
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[Jan 17,2013 9:39am - largefreakatzero ""]

arilliusbm said:Wow, the last two presidents.....


Indication of the downward spiral of this nation. Expect even worse in years to come.
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[Jan 17,2013 9:57am - rand ark thor  ""]
i'm more looking forward to when the shit doesn't hit the fan.
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[Jan 17,2013 10:22am - largefreakatzero ""]
Rallies on Saturday -- find your state here: http://www.facebook.com/events/144639815690301/

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[Jan 17,2013 10:33am - arilliusbm ""]
Thought you ain't have no facebook?
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[Jan 17,2013 10:50am - largefreakatzero ""]
I don't. I got this email from Gun Owners of NH this morning:

MINUTEMAN ALERT

Clarification About The Proposed

"Guns Across America" Event,

Saturday, January 19, "High noon",

at the State House in Concord, NH
NOTE: THIS EVENT IS NOT SPONSORED BY GO-NH
This Saturday, January 19, 2013, there MAY be a rally at the NH State House (or nearby) in Concord, NH, starting at noon, according to several mailings GO-NH members have received in recent days. There are supposed to be similar rallies at state capitols across the country, also on Saturday, Jan. 19. GO-NH does not have full information on this proposed rally, as this rally is not the work of GO-NH.

GO-NH is neither encouraging nor discouraging members from attending this or any other (non GO-NH sponsored) rally in support of the right to bear arms or the U.S. Constitution, but is warning its members (as it does for any official pro-firearms rally) that the press may be present and may be looking for any and all negative images of firearms owners, in order to disparage NH, the right to keep and bear arms, and firearms rights advocacy groups. To this extent, GO-NH offers these recommendations for anyone planning to attend the proposed rally on Saturday (or any other pro-firearms rally, for that matter):

Do not wear camouflage clothing; Wear the best clothing possible for the weather conditions
Do not litter or leave signs, posters, etc. behind after the rally, except in approved trash recepticles
If you carry openly, keep handguns holstered and carry long guns in a safe and non threatening manner; Note that, due to the overwhelmingly negative reporting by most press organizations, GO-NH recommends that you NOT carry openly at any pro-firearms rally
If you don't have a license to carry concealed, make sure no part of your clothing obscures the firearm from view (i.e it is "openly" carried) and also be sure that you do not carry the firearm loaded and/or concealed in a motor vehicle (per RSA 159:4)
Be aware that RSA 111:15 Armed Civilian Groups (link here) provides penalties (including misdemeanor charges and firearms confiscation) if you are armed and perceived as participating in a "combination of persons" as described in the statute
In general, avoid contact with the press but, if you must make contact with them, be respectful and stick to relevant points when speaking about firearms and your right to own them; The press is always looking for an attendee to who is inarticulate and will present firearms advocates in a bad light: Don't be that attendee!
If you do see someone behaving poorly or stupidly, and you have a still or video camera, please take as many pictures or record as much video of the miscreant as possible -- It may be a plant from one of the many anti-firearms civil rights organizations, and your video or stills could help to identify the person and their anti-firearms organization
If you do attend the rally, you are encouraged to take pictures and videos of the rally, to show how peaceful and respectful lawful firearms owners really are.

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So I went ahead and googled the event and found the Fagbook page. No, I probably won't attend. Ice-fishing > gun rallies.
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[Jan 17,2013 10:54am - largefreakatzero ""]
Site was messing with me earlier. Double post.
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[Jan 17,2013 10:59am - rand ark thor  ""]
i'm sure these rallies will be half misinformed people that thinks the government wants to ban guns and change the 2nd amendment, and counts any discussion about gun crime control as an affront to their civil liberties, while the other half will just be a harmless circle jerk about which ones they own.
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[Jan 17,2013 12:28pm - Boozegood ""]

rand%20ark%20thor said:i'm sure these rallies will be half misinformed people that thinks the government wants to ban guns and change the 2nd amendment, and counts any discussion about gun crime control as an affront to their civil liberties, while the other half will just be a harmless circle jerk about which ones they own.


Well the 'government' doesn't, at least some of them and hopefully they will be the ones that protect the 2nd Amendment in congress. But, please explain how Obama doesn't want to ban guns/change the 2nd Amendment?
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[Jan 17,2013 1:24pm - rand ark thor  ""]
it's politically impossible to change an amendment, and in the 23 executive orders, banning any gun isn't even mentioned. so the burden is actually on you to explain why he does want to ban them or change the amendment.
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[Jan 17,2013 1:49pm - Boozegood ""]

rand%20ark%20thor said:it's politically impossible to change an amendment, and in the 23 executive orders, banning any gun isn't even mentioned. so the burden is actually on you to explain why he does want to ban them or change the amendment.



Because he has said over and over in the passed weeks that he wants an 'assault weapon' ban, among other things?

Like I said (I hope) congress will protect that from actually happening.



This is just the first quote I could find very fast:

“Weapons designed for a theater of war have no place in a movie theater,” Obama continued. “A majority of Americans agree with us on this. And, by the way, so did Ronald Reagan – one of the staunches defenders of the Second Amendment – who wrote to Congress in 1994 urging them – this is Ronald Reagan speaking – urging them to listen to the public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of military-style assault weapons.”


EDIT:

Here is another -

“But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets. And so what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap hand guns.”
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[Jan 17,2013 2:02pm - rand ark thor  ""]
fair enough - i think the fear of losing civil liberties and personal gun ownership is just totally being blown out of proportion after the US media was done covering the fiscal cliff and sandy hook.

New York just passed a tough law. It's up to the states. I guess they banned magazines with more than 7 clips. It's kind of silly, it's also silly to see people that are worried that they won't be able to fight back and shoot feds with less than 8 bullets when the race war or civil war or revolution or disarming of civilians or whatever is totally gonna happen.
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[Jan 17,2013 2:03pm - rand ark thor  ""]
so what is wrong with the assault weapons ban? do you see that as a slippery slope? forgive me if this has been discussed a million times.
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[Jan 17,2013 2:17pm - Boozegood ""]

rand%20ark%20thor said:so what is wrong with the assault weapons ban? do you see that as a slippery slope? forgive me if this has been discussed a million times.


Yes it is a slippery slope, but also 'assault weapons' aren't a real thing.


http://www.assaultweapon.info/
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[Jan 17,2013 2:41pm - rand ark thor  ""]
good site, i did know the difference and fuck me i'm guilty of political semantic. but i didn't know the ineffectiveness of the ban or how terrible that law actually was. i always thought when people talked about that they were talking about the ban on machine guns.
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[Jan 17,2013 2:54pm - Burnsy ""]
Excellent link. Thanks for sharing.
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[Jan 17,2013 2:55pm - arilliusbm ""]
NEED MOAR AWP
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[Jan 17,2013 3:01pm - rand ark thor  ""]
i'm skeptical that the 2nd amendment is actually under attack, period. if it is, i'm personally way more concerned about amendment #1 if we're talking slippery slopes. i don't think the "awb" will be introduced. it shouldn't, it's a bad law. The NRA isn't making themselves look any better these days either.

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[Jan 17,2013 3:03pm - rand ark thor  ""]
like anything they need regulation. totally in favor of background checks and douchebag screens so people like dukemanjunk don't have a LTC that makes their mindcock an inch bigger.
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[Jan 17,2013 3:12pm - arilliusbm ""]
You had me at mindcock.
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[Jan 18,2013 9:42am - largefreakatzero ""]

Boozegood said:
rand%20ark%20thor said:so what is wrong with the assault weapons ban? do you see that as a slippery slope? forgive me if this has been discussed a million times.


Yes it is a slippery slope, but also 'assault weapons' aren't a real thing.


http://www.assaultweapon.info/



Haha, I own 2 of the firearms featured on that site.
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[Jan 18,2013 12:06pm - Boozegood ""]

largefreakatzero said:

Haha, I own 2 of the firearms featured on that site.



If one of them is a SCAR 16S then I am jelly. My friend has one; they are going for $5000.00+right now, fuuuuu-.

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[Jan 18,2013 12:09pm - arilliusbm ""]
Good gun.
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[Jan 18,2013 1:37pm - largefreakatzero ""]
Nah, the Mini-14 and the S+W shrouded hammer wheel gun are mine.
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[Jan 18,2013 7:59pm - ShadowSD ""]
Re: Burnsy and Boozegod

Tanks, guys.

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[Jan 18,2013 8:57pm - Burnsy ""]
Fantasy has no place in this thread, Shadow.
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[Jan 19,2013 9:01am - ShadowSD ""]
Fantasy? If you get shot, you spin around and the other guy gets a point, just like in real life. DAT SHITZ REAL YO

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