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Considering the iPod?

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[May 16,2005 12:55pm - RustedAngel ""]
so I turn the big 22 this weekend, and I'm thinking of using some b-day cash to get an iPod for my car/work mainly because I'm sick of burning cd's and transporting them all over the place. I'm not resorting to the freeipod thing because I think it's annoying. hahaha. :spineyes:

I'm considering either the 40gig or the 60gig and getting an FM transmitter, stereo adapter, ect with it.

2 things kind of scare me about these damn things...

1. The battery isn't easily changeable, you can't run it directly into an AC but only run it while the battery is charging. I guess if you use them a lot the battery will die within a year.

2. iTunes seems like a piece of shit. My gf has one and apparently you can't have more than one 'library' of music which means if you go to a friends house you can't hook your iPod up to their machine just to get an album or a couple of songs, you'd have to replace all the file's on your iPod. Is there any other software that works and allows you to have more control over what you put and take off your ipod?

anything else I should know about these things?
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[May 16,2005 1:04pm - blue ""]
ive heard hell stories about the screen burning out within the year. and yes, ive also heard stories like that concerning the battery life.
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[May 16,2005 1:14pm - the_reverend ""]
the batteries are now easily changeable.
screens burning out within a year will be fixed free.

you can have more than one library in itunes. I actually like the itunes program a lot. the only thing I want them to do is have the title of the song show up in the task bar.

I don't have the time right now, could someone go through and find all the posts where to said that ipods were gay and that we should just use laptops?
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[May 16,2005 1:15pm - ~Carina~  ""]
sign up for a free one under the rev!
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[May 16,2005 1:18pm - RustedAngel ""]
the_reverend said:the batteries are now easily changeable.
screens burning out within a year will be fixed free.

you can have more than one library in itunes. I actually like the itunes program a lot. the only thing I want them to do is have the title of the song show up in the task bar.

I don't have the time right now, could someone go through and find all the posts where to said that ipods were gay and that we should just use laptops?



how are the batteries easily changable?

how can you have more than one library in itunes?

yes, I said you should use your laptop to play select mp3's since you already have it sitting next to you while you do your radio show.
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[May 16,2005 1:20pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
this is all great cause i was considering buying one myself. so please continue it's helping me figure out what to buy.

how easy is it to use as a car stereo is the main question i got, i hate using burnt cds in my truck, they get scratched and die quickly.
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[May 16,2005 1:22pm - RustedAngel ""]
whiskey_weed_and_women said:this is all great cause i was considering buying one myself. so please continue it's helping me figure out what to buy.

how easy is it to use as a car stereo is the main question i got, i hate using burnt cds in my truck, they get scratched and die quickly.



you can get one of those tape things if you have a tape player, or what I'm going to do is get the FM transmitter which allows you to just tune into whatever unused radio signal you select to hear your shit.

or you can get it professionally setup with your car stereo somehow.
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[May 16,2005 1:29pm - dreadkill ""]
don't get an fm transmitter. i had a tape deck in my truck and i plugged the ipod into that using the adapter i had from a discman. the sound wasn't great, but it wasn't good enough. i bought a new stereo for my truck a couple years ago, thinking i could just get an fm transmitter to use with the ipod. dumbest move ever. the sound quality sucks. it's like trying to listen to a weak radio station with lots of static and fading out. i should have bought a stereo with an aux input to plug my pod in directly. i lug cds around now. it sucks.
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[May 16,2005 1:31pm - RustedAngel ""]
dreadkill said:don't get an fm transmitter. i had a tape deck in my truck and i plugged the ipod into that using the adapter i had from a discman. the sound wasn't great, but it wasn't good enough. i bought a new stereo for my truck a couple years ago, thinking i could just get an fm transmitter to use with the ipod. dumbest move ever. the sound quality sucks. it's like trying to listen to a weak radio station with lots of static and fading out. i should have bought a stereo with an aux input to plug my pod in directly. i lug cds around now. it sucks.


my gf has an fm transmitter by monster cable and I can't tell the difference in sound quality, I've never heard it fade in and out ever. If it ever does all you gotta do is change the station. I'm sure there are shitty quality transmitters you can buy, and I guess it would depend on your car too if it's old?
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[May 16,2005 1:31pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""]
dreadkill said:i lug cds around now. it sucks.


yeah trying to avoid that, i do it and now....i've lost so many and others have just gotten destroyed.

so i like the idea of an ipod, i just wanna know it works in a car before i get one. cause i need a new stereo anyways
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[May 16,2005 2:44pm - DreamingInExile ""]
RustedAngel said:1. The battery isn't easily changeable, you can't run it directly into an AC but only run it while the battery is charging. I guess if you use them a lot the battery will die within a year.

2. iTunes seems like a piece of shit. My gf has one and apparently you can't have more than one 'library' of music which means if you go to a friends house you can't hook your iPod up to their machine just to get an album or a couple of songs, you'd have to replace all the file's on your iPod. Is there any other software that works and allows you to have more control over what you put and take off your ipod?



1.) if you buy the apple care protection plan, they will replace the battery for free for 3 years

2.) iTunes sucks, go to the winamp website and download the iPod plugin for winamp, I use it, it PWNS!

3.) the FM Transmitter to get is the iCarPlay by Monster (I have one) it's another $65 or so, but well worth it!

4.) remember to have a free USB 2.0 port that's DIRECTLY on your motherboard (not one of the front panel ones) because the iPod charges over the USB 2.0 connection and it requires a "high power" one.

I love my iPod (20GB) I wouldn't give it up for anything. but do yourself a favor, and get a case for it, mine looks like it was in downtown Baghdad during the air campaigns and I only got it at xmas...

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[May 16,2005 2:54pm - the_reverend ""]
just create another playlist.
I think the ipods have to have different usernames.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10165_7-5503617-1.html

changing the battery:
http://www.ipodlounge.com/index.php/faqs/a...i-replace-the-ipods-battery-myself/
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[May 16,2005 2:57pm - ~Carina~  ""]
aaron link your freeipod linky link
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[May 16,2005 2:59pm - the_reverend ""]
http://www.freeiPods.com/?r=13213414
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[May 16,2005 3:06pm - Niccolai ""]
To me, the deciding factor is the battery.

What?! I can replace te battery for only a hundred bucks, PLUS I get to lose all the sons I had saved on my Ipod and haveto send it in for 2-4 weeks? SWEET!

Aaron, wich one of those offers would you say is easiest to complete?
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[May 16,2005 3:09pm - the_reverend ""]
you don't lose the songs since they will be on your computer. plus, this is a harddive, not RAMdrive.
the battery lasts about 18 months of constant use and then you can pay $99 for a new battery.
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[May 16,2005 3:20pm - ~Carina  ""]
Niccolai, what are the offers now?
i know that the credit card app is free...if you tell me what the other offers are i can tell you
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[May 16,2005 3:28pm - RustedAngel ""]
DreamingInExile said:

1.) if you buy the apple care protection plan, they will replace the battery for free for 3 years

2.) iTunes sucks, go to the winamp website and download the iPod plugin for winamp, I use it, it PWNS!

3.) the FM Transmitter to get is the iCarPlay by Monster (I have one) it's another $65 or so, but well worth it!

4.) remember to have a free USB 2.0 port that's DIRECTLY on your motherboard (not one of the front panel ones) because the iPod charges over the USB 2.0 connection and it requires a "high power" one.

I love my iPod (20GB) I wouldn't give it up for anything. but do yourself a favor, and get a case for it, mine looks like it was in downtown Baghdad during the air campaigns and I only got it at xmas...




2. do you have more control over what goes on each ipod with that winamp plugin?

3. yeah that's the one my girlfriend has, apple has one made for the ipod but I wonder if it's as good?

4. yeah, I can't get usb 2.0 to work on my mb which has it! so I'll just use firewire. fuck usb.
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[May 16,2005 3:29pm - anonymous  ""]
iPods are shit. In a momentary lapse of all reason I went out and purchased a 60g iPod for the 450 plus tax. Now I have a ton of music so it took me approx. 12 hours to get all my shit into iTunes and organized. Then had troubles because my laptop refused to recognize it once I plugged it in. Once I got it all solved worked like a charm for exactly 9 days. One the 9th day the thing up and dies. It refuses to turn on. So I take it to the store (the apple one in the Cambridge side). I tell the front desk its broken and I want a new one. They send me to the back to the "Genius Bar". Its too easy to make jokes so I won't. All said and done I sat there in "queue" for 2 1/2 hours waiting to be told what I already knew. During this time I counted no less than 15-20 other iPod customers that had all various problems 75% of them had to get shipped out to be "fixed/replaced". After the 2 1/2 hours I still wasn't helped so I got up and found the manager... he confirmed it was dead and I could go to the front and get a new one. Needless to say I went to the front and got my money back... took the cash walked to Cambridge Sound Works and bought a 60g Creative Zen for 299.99. It took 4 hours to organize my music and upload it into the player and has been working like a charm for weeks. FUCK APPLE FUCK THE IPOD and U2!!!
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[May 16,2005 3:38pm - dreadkill nli  ""]
if you download a program called senuti, you can pull songs off a friend's ipod onto your computer. my friend and i rape each other's pods all the time with that program. it's great.
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[May 16,2005 3:42pm - Niccolai ""]
I don't like the 99$ battery idea.
and I think when it comes to replacing them, alot of customers will have problems with the battery as well (wether or not they knew about the battery when they bought a unit) so hopefully in the very near future, Ipods will have a mnuch more interchangable design for the batteries.
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[May 16,2005 3:48pm - litacore ""]
fuckit, just make yourself mix tapes

I used to sneak all kindsa shit on those for my friends: Lubricated Goat, Bastards, The Waitresses, Scatch Acid, even interspersed some crank phone calls in for transitional purposes from one song to another!

ah, the 90's . . .
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[May 16,2005 3:51pm - the_reverend ""]
mix.. tapes?
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[May 16,2005 3:53pm - Niccolai ""]
anonymous person, what's the deal with the battery in the zen?
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[May 16,2005 3:54pm - RustedAngel ""]
zen is a bit bigger, doesn't support firewire, or the FM transmitter thing.
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[May 16,2005 3:55pm - the_reverend ""]
I liked the zens when they first came out... but they are way too bulky.
IMHO, the ipods are the only way to go. If you are a bitch about the battery, look at online and you can find directions for replacing it yourself for $30.
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[May 16,2005 4:00pm - DreamingInExile ""]
RustedAngel said:

2. do you have more control over what goes on each ipod with that winamp plugin?

3. yeah that's the one my girlfriend has, apple has one made for the ipod but I wonder if it's as good?

4. yeah, I can't get usb 2.0 to work on my mb which has it! so I'll just use firewire. fuck usb.



--> Yes, you can chose songs, albums, even entire artists and load 'em on. make a sick playlist? you can add the .pls file and it'll add all the corresponding tracks.

--> The iCarPlay PWNS, hands down, the apple one won't charge while you use it, so it's kinda silly to get that one, seeing since apple reccommends the monster one too... lol!

--> What motherboard do you have? I can probably find the chipset update for you that will enable USB2.0
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[May 16,2005 4:05pm - RustedAngel ""]
abit ic7-max3, I checked, there was but only for win me/98. xp pro with sp2 should support 2.0
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[May 16,2005 4:05pm - Niccolai ""]
I'm having a tought time chosing between the zen and Ipod.
The zen is a tiny bit bigger, they both have the same features that I would use (the Ipod has a bit extra, but I wouldn't get use out of it), the zens cheaper but doesn't work with the Itrip...
I guess it will boil down to the usability of the software they come with.
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[May 16,2005 4:06pm - the_reverend ""]
didn't you just buy you mb and a mega mega moster computer?
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[May 16,2005 4:07pm - defnasty ""]
www.iriver.com I can't believe none of you have heard of this?
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[May 16,2005 4:08pm - the_reverend ""]
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[May 16,2005 4:08pm - defnasty ""]
IRIVER IS THE FUCKING BEST!
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[May 16,2005 4:09pm - the_reverend ""]
nope.. 6gc is too small for me.
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[May 16,2005 4:10pm - litacore ""]
the_reverend said:mix.. tapes?


yes! good old fragile CASSETTES! :satancross:
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[May 16,2005 4:11pm - the_reverend ""]
oh lady of the past and her dracionian language.
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[May 16,2005 4:11pm - DreamingInExile ""]
anonymous said:It took 4 hours to organize my music and upload it into the player and has been working like a charm for weeks.


if you're smart, and you use winamp, all your music should be organized in the first place and you wouldn't have to waste 4 hours of your life organizing shit...

Artist \ Album \ ## - title.mp3 -> ID3 tags are the shit! that's where all my orginazation comes from.

WinAMP's media library beats out everythign else I've tried by far

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/mlipod/iPod_Support_v1_14.exe?download

WinAMP Media Library screenie: (with iPod attached)(too tall for the forum)
http://home.comcast.net/~behindspace/waml.jpg
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[May 16,2005 4:13pm - succubus ""]
the past?
no, that would be 8 track
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[May 16,2005 4:14pm - the_reverend ""]
winamp beats everything... especially since the company is now only 5 people and randomly crashes on you

itunes beats everyone at using up way too much RAM

wmp beats everyone at having a shitty ui and tell microsoft and the FBI what you are doing.
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[May 16,2005 4:17pm - DreamingInExile ""]
USB 2.0 driver: http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/download...s/intel/usb20/ich5/1.1.0.2/1102.exe

Intel Chipset Driver: http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/download...nf_update/6.2.1.1001/6.2.1.1001.exe


or just go to the motherboard homepage: http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/driver/drivers.php?categories=1&model=130
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[May 16,2005 4:18pm - litacore ""]
cassettes are kvlt and troo and particularly necrogrim

HAHAHAHA
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[May 16,2005 4:19pm - DreamingInExile ""]
litacore said:cassettes are kvlt and troo and particularly necrogrim

HAHAHAHA



HAHAHAHA! That's awsome! my new quote of the day!!!
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[May 16,2005 4:21pm - DreamingInExile ""]
is that a socket 478 or 775?

I need a new computer... I'm actually willing to sell mine to buy a new one
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[May 16,2005 4:29pm - RustedAngel ""]
DreamingInExile said:is that a socket 478 or 775?

I need a new computer... I'm actually willing to sell mine to buy a new one



478
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[May 16,2005 5:59pm - defnasty ""]
buy an IRIVER and dont be stupid.
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[May 16,2005 6:03pm - infoterror ""]
No - I wouldn't buy anything from that piece of shit company, Apple. Anything that eventually even offends Middle Easterners for its business practices should be avoided.

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[May 16,2005 8:56pm - slowlypeelingtheflesh ""]
My ipod burned on me, but they were totaly awesome and they are sending me a new one..it should be her in three-four days
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[May 16,2005 11:35pm - th3rdknuckle ""]
the problem with the transmitters isn't static or 'fading in and out', it's just the sound quality in general. it does suck, i'm sorry to say.

also note: if you have any music on your hard drive and iPod ONLY, (meaning no disc/back-up copy) you are risking losing it if your computer crashes. iPods are a 1-way-only device; you send music from computer to iPod, but NOT vice versa. Last fall my i had to wipe & re-install my OS and lost all of my tunes... i thought 'no problem, they're all in my iPod'. WRONG. if i connected the iPod to the computer after iTunes was wiped clean, that would have erased everything on the iPod. I would have lost a ton of music that i had downloaded but never burned to disc.

i had to download IpodRip, which was being beta-tested at the time, in order to send my tunes from my iPod back to my computer. it worked fine, thankfully.

i wouldn't say iPods suck, but you better be ready for some WORK in setting them up and then maintaining them. if you're up for that, they're great. how else can you carry 500 albums around in your pocket?
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[May 17,2005 7:44am - anonymous  ""]
Niccolai said:anonymous person, what's the deal with the battery in the zen?



The battery is under the front cover (released by a switch) and is similar to a cell phone battery... and just as easy to replace. I still have had no problems with the zen (its is a little bigger than the iPod) but its a small trade off to not have to deal with a fucking "genius bar" and come on $299 for 60 gig, a cover (a small thing but iPod comes with nothing), and the ease of replacing the battery (which by the way ran continuously for almost 20 hours) is a great price. I like the iriver but its not big enough yet...
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[May 17,2005 8:39am - RustedAngel ""]
th3rdknuckle said:the problem with the transmitters isn't static or 'fading in and out', it's just the sound quality in general. it does suck, i'm sorry to say.



what transmitter did you have? like I said earlier, my gf has the monster cable on which is about 60 or 70 bucks and it sounds pretty damn good.

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