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Obama orders 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan

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[Dec 2,2009 12:50pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

FuckIsMySignature said:thank you dya for introducing me to the pink sock dillema


LOL, any time.

It's an apt analogy, FWIW. You really can't just have everybody mount up and peace the fuck out of there all at once, the sudden power vacuum would be devastating.

Also, ANALogy. TEE HEE
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[Dec 2,2009 12:56pm - RyanPlegics ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:Also, ANALogy. TEE HEE


You win.
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[Dec 2,2009 1:00pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

RyanPlegics said:
DestroyYouAlot said:Also, ANALogy. TEE HEE


You win.



I ALWAYS DO

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[Dec 2,2009 1:03pm - brian_dc ""]
HAHAHAHA...YES!
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[Dec 2,2009 1:04pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
You should probably just read all of my posts in the Robert Goulet voice. It's how I envision them myself, at least.
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[Dec 2,2009 1:26pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
Gouuulettttt Gouleetttttt
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[Dec 2,2009 1:35pm - dontlivefastjustdie ""]
nuke the middle east and be done with it, jeeeesh!
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[Dec 2,2009 2:44pm - ark  ""]
I just watched the speech.
I liked the manner in which he alluded to the illicit drug trade.
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[Dec 2,2009 4:27pm - Eddie ""]

pam said:Everyone can say we don't belong there until they're dead, the fact remains that Bush Jr got us into a fucking mess we can't just say "fuck ya'll" and walk away from.

I have no bloody idea how to fix the problem or if it's even possible but I do know we knocked down two fucking countries and it's now our mess to clean up.

I would say give Obama a chance to try his plan but I know asking that on RTTP is pointless. Carry on!



Wrong. Afghanistan is Bush Sr.'s and Clinton's mess. Iraq is Bush Jr.'s mess. Please try reading a book.

RIP Massoud
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[Dec 2,2009 4:30pm - aril  ""]
Al CIAda is rampant in the moutainous caves. Let us use drones and bomb civilians!
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[Dec 2,2009 5:22pm - porphyria  ""]

aril said:Al CIAda is rampant in the moutainous caves. Let us use drones and bomb civilians!


yeah, because civilian's are being bombed on purpose.......innocent people are killed in war especially when the enemy is hiding among them. If you read more than just conspiracy theory websites and watch recent documentaries (dispatches, bbc, ect.) it will give you a slightly better idea that more than just civilian deaths are occurring. There are in fact afghanis that are glad there are u.s./british troops there keeping the Taliban at bay in some areas.

I support the incremental removal of troops there but who knows what that will accomplish at this point.
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[Dec 2,2009 8:28pm - aril  ""]
Thanks for telling me what I read and watch.
I only post conspiracy shit on here because
a.) it pisses people off
b.) you guys don't read enough alternative media
and c.) people need to think outside of the box of MSM and question EVERYTHING. It's not unpatriotic to question the propaganda you're fed.
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[Dec 2,2009 10:40pm - porphyria  ""]

aril said:
b.) you guys don't read enough alternative media
and c.) people need to think outside of the box of MSM and question EVERYTHING. It's not unpatriotic to question the propaganda you're fed.



Why do you feel as though you know what we see/hear? I'm pretty sure 95% of the people aren't avid FOX news fans, except maybe Hoser and Conservationist. :spineyes:

If you do in fact want to make some kind of difference why waste your time here when you could be posting on Boston Herald articles instead of Boston.com.
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[Dec 3,2009 3:29am - DestroyYouAlot ""]

porphyria said:
aril said:
b.) you guys don't read enough alternative media
and c.) people need to think outside of the box of MSM and question EVERYTHING. It's not unpatriotic to question the propaganda you're fed.



Why do you feel as though you know what we see/hear? I'm pretty sure 95% of the people aren't avid FOX news fans, except maybe Hoser and Conservationist. :spineyes:



LOL - I'm pretty sure Conservationist has more esoteric news tastes than FOX, to say the least.
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[Dec 3,2009 7:45am - aril  ""]
I do like reading your take on stuff like this, among others. But to answer your question, Perhaps because I'm anti-Right/left paradigm. It's destroying our country and splitting the populous as each day passes. If a conservative republican hears anything that opposes their way of thought then the other people are quickly branded as a dumbass liberal - a term overused to the point where it should be self-evident of this country's growing gap. I'm both convservative and liberal on different items politically, but I do not buy into the democrat/republican split.
The founding fathers should literally be turning in their graves right now: both our civil liberties are being attacked as well as the American population- with propaganda.
My way of thinking completely changed when I saw what modern bipartisianship is doing to our country, mainly because we are force fed a bunch of deceitful lies on both ends of the candle. It has come to the point where we the people are only seen as sheep and cattle-why not think outside the box and question the corporate owned mainstream media we are fed? We lived in a world of corporatism with corrupt bankers and corporatons running it. I realized this when my father worked for enron and lost evrything he had saved up. The left right paradigm is false, and our government has alterior motives for just about everything, and our minds are poisoned against questoning it through the usage of media and left right paradigm politics.
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[Dec 3,2009 7:47am - TheRidersofDoom ""]
Here's the bottom line.

If anyone here supports a draft, they can burn in hell

the draft is the government saying "we own you and can do what we like with you"

much like the income tax is the government saying

"we own your labor, you are a slave we allow to keep some of the benefits of your labor...but just enough"
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[Dec 3,2009 8:05am - aril  ""]

TheRidersofDoom said:

If anyone here supports a draft, they can burn in hell



I don't think many people support a draft. Who wants to get drafted? Nobody.
But be prepared for reinstating the draft and a proposal for war tax to help pay off the wars. History always repeats itself.
The Vietnam protests increased when the public was more directly involved with the war. If there's a draft or tax, expect major protests agaisnt the war and Obama will never be viewed the same.
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[Dec 3,2009 10:21am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
the war tax scares me the most. i think that will be the breaking point.
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[Dec 3,2009 10:29am - arktouros ""]

aril said:
But be prepared for reinstating the draft and a proposal for war tax to help pay off the wars. History always repeats itself.



History isn't a science, we'll see what happens...but there is no demand for a draft. A war tax would be vetoed. IF something like that actually makes it through congress...if it does then I'll be joining the lynch mobs!
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[Dec 3,2009 10:37am - arktouros ""]

ShadowSD said:
zyklon said:I hope he succeeds


Me too.



So do I. I voted for him fully knowing that he would be sending more troops. Obviously he's a CIA puppet, what president isn't, but the drug trade in Afghanistan is just one of the many reasons why US troops are there. I appreciate what Obama is trying to do and I fully stand behind our president. But I won't be pleased until the Taliban is decimated and the Patriot Act is repealed.
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[Dec 3,2009 10:45am - aril  ""]
I'll appreciate Obama more of he goes against what that snivelling rat Rahm Emanuel and other bilderbergers tell him to do.
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[Dec 3,2009 12:47pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

aril said:The left right paradigm is false, and our government has alterior motives for just about everything, and our minds are poisoned against questoning it through the usage of media and left right paradigm politics.


FUCKING THANK YOU
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[Dec 3,2009 1:03pm - Fist  ""]
There will be no draft, are you kidding me. How many Americans do you think would rise up against the government if that happened? People will take jail time instead. Stop watching that turd on infowars he's a liar and a fear monger.
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[Dec 3,2009 1:09pm - aril  ""]
Fist, obviously my point on the draft is misunderstood.

As for Alex jones, I don't agree with him on a lot of things. it's funny how asshurt everyone gets over a few statements that the msm doesn't admit
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[Dec 3,2009 1:09pm - arktouros ""]

Fist said:There will be no draft, are you kidding me. How many Americans do you think would rise up against the government if that happened? People will take jail time instead. Stop watching that turd on infowars he's a liar and a fear monger.


FUCKING THANK YOU
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[Dec 3,2009 1:21pm - aril  ""]
I'm not for the draft one bit. But perhaps if we had one in the beggining of the war it would have been a shorter conflict and the country wouldbe more involved. That's all I was saying..
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[Dec 3,2009 1:37pm - aril  ""]
To make a long story short- on order for an empire or nation state to succeed, it needs to be united. This country is not united one bit.
War has the ability to strengthen a country, or destroy it within.
We are destroying sovereignty and liberties as each day passes. It will be a miracle if the us still stands as it is in 20 years (or less).
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[Dec 3,2009 1:48pm - aril  ""]
Aight, I'll stop posting in this thread. It does more harm than good and everyone thinks I'm a kook haha
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[Dec 3,2009 1:50pm - arktouros ""]
There's always been a division in this country as there is today. Remember that the split between Tories and Patriots was almost 1:1. Confederate/Union, Right/Left...that's why political parties formed even after Washington's warning against the formation of them.

The sovereignty of the states is more important than anything else. That's why states are not just "provinces" but fully contained that could govern themselves entirely if necessary. Wouldn't it be fantastic if I could just live in the country of MASSACHUSETTS and be done with it.
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[Dec 3,2009 1:54pm - arktouros ""]
Jim I don't think you're a kook at all. Skepticism is very important. I actually think I'm a kook for not dismissing the notion that this country is actually on the right track and will be better in 20 years.
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[Dec 3,2009 1:57pm - Martins ""]
He's a kook. Have you tried his homemade bolognese sauce? Delicious.
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[Dec 3,2009 1:58pm - Fist  ""]
No i'm with you on the conspiracy shit. I believe most of the shit your saying. it's just theres no point to get wrapped up in it because knowing this stuff will never change anything unless you do something about it, that's the problem that the people have in this country. Everyone talks but noone acts.
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[Dec 3,2009 1:59pm - Martins ""]
Where's Noone at, then? He could really help us out here.
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[Dec 3,2009 2:08pm - aril  ""]
Alright last post for real.

Alex jones = Christian undertones about everything. he thinks abortion is a eugenics operation. Fuck that.

Rusted angel and fist are right. Posting this shit on a music board is nonsense. I really need to do something about it rather than writing letters to senators and shit.
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[Dec 3,2009 2:16pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]

aril said:Rusted angel and fist are right. Posting this shit on a music board is nonsense. I really need to do something about it rather than writing letters to senators and shit.


for awhile i was letting this shit get to me real bad...like to the point where i was developing an ulcer i think. i have recently decided to stop giving a shit. although i do continue check up on those news sites out of curiousity. its still a good idea to stay informed but theres no sense in letting it affect your daily life.
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[Dec 3,2009 2:24pm - Martins ""]
Relax.
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[Dec 3,2009 2:36pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
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[Dec 3,2009 2:41pm - SkinSandwich ""]
Don't worry, Hammerhead will fix everything.

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[Dec 3,2009 8:05pm - pam ""]

Eddie said:
pam said:Everyone can say we don't belong there until they're dead, the fact remains that Bush Jr got us into a fucking mess we can't just say "fuck ya'll" and walk away from.

I have no bloody idea how to fix the problem or if it's even possible but I do know we knocked down two fucking countries and it's now our mess to clean up.

I would say give Obama a chance to try his plan but I know asking that on RTTP is pointless. Carry on!



Wrong. Afghanistan is Bush Sr.'s and Clinton's mess. Iraq is Bush Jr.'s mess. Please try reading a book.

RIP Massoud



I know that you fucking jerk-off, I was referring to the wars that were officially started by Bush Jr. sending troops in during his reign of terror, I'm well aware it wasn't sunshine and farts there beforehand and I was kinda fucking alive during the Clinton and Bush Sr. terms so shut your whore mouth.

Please try not being a cunt.
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[Dec 3,2009 8:07pm - pam ""]

arktouros said:
Fist said:There will be no draft, are you kidding me. How many Americans do you think would rise up against the government if that happened? People will take jail time instead. Stop watching that turd on infowars he's a liar and a fear monger.


FUCKING THANK YOU



Both sides use shit like this to scare people. It's the only thing that works in this country full of ignorant lazy morons.

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