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Ideas for "Comp" for Wacken and Party.San

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[Jun 22,2009 9:39am - RustyPS ""]
In case you missed the original thread: http://www.returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=61167

long story short: HeavensJail offered to pass out band merch when he goes to Wacken and Party.San over the summer...my idea is instead of him lugging a ton of different bands' merch over to Germany, it would be more logical to throw together a comp on CD-Rs, put them in plastic sleeves, and have him hand out those

first off, anyone else think this is a good idea? I know Tom and a couple other said it was a good idea, but there wasn't many replies

second, who would be willing to help out with this?...Tom said he would, but 2 guys wouldn't be able to pull this off alone...keep in mind, you won't be paid for anything...this is so bands from the area can get exposure to a huge metal audience overseas, and nothing more

third, suggestions? (number of bands/tracks, artwork, number of copies, etc.)


I'm pumped to do this, but again, help is needed to do this and do it right
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[Jun 22,2009 10:28am - sinistas ""]
I think this is a good idea, but I'm not very good at anything.
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[Jun 22,2009 10:43am - dreadkill ""]
i like this idea and may be able to contribute some artwork
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[Jun 22,2009 10:53am - arilliusbm ""]
good idea, however I am not sure how willing the people there would be in taking one and actually listening to it. most people that go there are there to party and listen to live music under the influence of something. so it'd be a tough market to deal with unless done the right way.
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[Jun 22,2009 10:56am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""]
I love the idea. I haven't discussed it with the guys yet. but I'm sure BC would throw on a track.

I can also offer some assistance with production. Once we have a master disk, i could copy all the others at my work. We have two towers that copy 10cds at a time. It takes about 30seconds, so i could do at least a couple hundred... which brings up another point, i don't think this kid wanted to hand out cds. I'm pretty sure he said he wouldn't do it, a couple hundred cds is a lot to carry.

On the other hand, we could just put together a compilation ourselves to hand out in the states. Something low budget, maybe just a cd in a blank paper sleeve with band/track listing printed on cd?
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[Jun 22,2009 11:00am - RustyPS ""]

BoarcorpseJimbo said:I love the idea. I haven't discussed it with the guys yet. but I'm sure BC would throw on a track.

I can also offer some assistance with production. Once we have a master disk, i could copy all the others at my work. We have two towers that copy 10cds at a time. It takes about 30seconds, so i could do at least a couple hundred... which brings up another point, i don't think this kid wanted to hand out cds. I'm pretty sure he said he wouldn't do it, a couple hundred cds is a lot to carry.

On the other hand, we could just put together a compilation ourselves to hand out in the states. Something low budget, maybe just a cd in a blank paper sleeve with band/track listing printed on cd?



What he said about taking CDs:

HeavensJail said:haha, not sure that I could bring CDs in by the crate and convince Danish customs it wasn't for commercial purposes, let alone man-pack said crate around the campground, but a hundred or so in slimlines or sleeves would definitely be doable.


so wecan give him 100 or so to take with him, then reproduce a bunch to ditribute around here
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[Jun 22,2009 11:02am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""]
word, i can pump out a hundred at my work in minutes. We should buy good quality cdrs though, the cheap ones skip like crazy. I could also print the labels for them at my work, we'd still need to buy the actual labels, but i can do em all full color for nothing.
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[Jun 22,2009 11:06am - HeavensJail_nli  ""]
I'm still working on pack capacity; as in the earlier thread, I'd prefer to take stuff that's small, not super-heavy, and already exists.

An ambassador comp is not a bad idea though. Hanging out in the beergarden and talking to random people last year, I got leads on like eight bands, but only really remembered Slogstorm and Dawn of Demise...and only got a CD from the second because they're on Deepsend and actually have distro here. This might be more if people from bands had music samples with them.

Comp or no comp, I was planning to load up a MP3 player with samples from anyone whose merch I was bringing over, in case anyone asked, "yeah, but what do they actually sound like?"
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[Jun 22,2009 11:07am - RustyPS ""]

arilliusbm said:good idea, however I am not sure how willing the people there would be in taking one and actually listening to it. most people that go there are there to party and listen to live music under the influence of something. so it'd be a tough market to deal with unless done the right way.
but that's what I'm looking for, suggestions to figure out how to properly do this
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[Jun 22,2009 11:08am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""]
^It sounds like your really into the local music scene, at least by how much your offering to help. Do you play in a band? There isn't a band called "heavensJail" that i haven't heard yet, is there?
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[Jun 22,2009 11:09am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
my buddy is willing pass out like a 100 or so of these too.
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[Jun 22,2009 11:09am - RustyPS ""]

HeavensJail_nli said:I'm still working on pack capacity; as in the earlier thread, I'd prefer to take stuff that's small, not super-heavy, and already exists.

An ambassador comp is not a bad idea though. Hanging out in the beergarden and talking to random people last year, I got leads on like eight bands, but only really remembered Slogstorm and Dawn of Demise...and only got a CD from the second because they're on Deepsend and actually have distro here. This might be more if people from bands had music samples with them.

Comp or no comp, I was planning to load up a MP3 player with samples from anyone whose merch I was bringing over, in case anyone asked, "yeah, but what do they actually sound like?"



yea, keep us posted on that, so if we actually go through with this, we can figure out what will work for you logistically

that's a good idea with the mp3 player...might make people more likely to take what you bring
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[Jun 22,2009 11:13am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""]
Aril buddy, if you take that attitude, then why record music at all? People have better things to do then check out a comp, yes. A good portion of cds that get handed out never get even one play, but some of them do, and that's why you do it. If the cd is in a slim sleeve, or something similar, it'd be easy to toss in a pocket or a bag till you get somewhere where you can listen to it.
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[Jun 22,2009 11:13am - HeavensJail_nli  ""]
No, not in any bands; I'm the guy with the ridiculous patchjacket with the Judas Priest stud belts on the shoulders. I just dig the local music scene around here immensely -- helps that there are so many good bands -- and want to do what I can to spread the word.
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[Jun 22,2009 11:14am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""]
badass man. Good attitudes are in short supply these days. As you know, Dick is Bro.
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[Jun 22,2009 11:16am - RustyPS ""]
yea, HeavensJail, anything you can do in support of local bands, is very appreciated, no matter what it is
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[Jun 22,2009 11:22am - arilliusbm ""]
It's not my outlook. I'm only being realistic. It will never hurt to try this (I've done it before) but you have to figure out how to break that barrier to utilize maximum listenage. It's all about marketing, man.
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[Jun 22,2009 11:24am - arilliusbm ""]
But I can tell you the Germans are very interested in their metal. one of my band's demos was released in Germany and it always seemed they're more into listening to underground type-stuff than your average American fan
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[Jun 22,2009 11:25am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""]
i think that's Europe in general man.
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[Jun 22,2009 11:30am - boblovesmusic ""]
Obviously the lineup for this comp will depend on which bands will/can contribute, however it'd be cool if the comp could show the variety of bands from the NE area. I mean, the scene is just all death metal or all thrash. Just a thought.

(haha, can't contribute much more than suggesting this haha)
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[Jun 22,2009 11:33am - arilliusbm ""]
I like the idea, though. It'd probably be smart to include "New England" in the title of the comp only because it could increase the interest in listening to bands all from the same area. You dont want people to think it's a comp of all these random bands from all over.
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[Jun 22,2009 11:34am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
also ... would like to get Scaphism on this if possible.
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[Jun 22,2009 11:34am - arilliusbm ""]
someone put Pi on the mix.
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[Jun 22,2009 11:35am - RustyPS ""]
I was planning on that, aril...not sure what to call it exactly though
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[Jun 22,2009 11:36am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
NEW ENGLAND IS STILL WICKED PISSED: PART DEUX
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[Jun 22,2009 11:44am - arilliusbm ""]
just simply "New England USA Metal"
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[Jun 22,2009 11:45am - sinistas ""]
Srsly.
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[Jun 22,2009 11:45am - sinistas ""]
sorry, the srsly was to NEIWP Vol. II
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[Jun 22,2009 12:07pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""]
"[Jun 22,2009 11:34am - arilliusbm]
someone put Pi on the mix."

Are you refering to a band "pi" or a song.. like maybe an (ouch) song?
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[Jun 22,2009 12:13pm - boblovesmusic ""]
PUT (OUCH) ON THE COMP! BEST SONG IN NE!
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[Jun 22,2009 12:33pm - the_reverend ""]
I loved the idea of the first comp...
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[Jun 22,2009 12:48pm - badsneakers ""]
i think this is a good idea.
I don't have much for ideas on the best way to pass them out but I'd think going to a pressing plant to have the copys made would be a goo idea and not to much money. Which all the bands involved could pitch in for dup costs.

Also my band, who carries the lantern would be interested in being on this
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[Jun 22,2009 12:52pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""]
Sure, pressing plant is a great idea, but it's gonna make the cost higher.
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[Jun 22,2009 12:54pm - RustyPS ""]
yea, I'd personally rather just do the CD-Rs, especially if we want to go beyond Germany, and continue to distribute this around here too
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[Jun 22,2009 12:58pm - Yeti ""]

FuckIsMySignature said:also ... would like to get Scaphism on this if possible.
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[Jun 22,2009 1:04pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""]
So.... in order for this to actually happen, someone's gotta take the lead. Is that gonna be you Rusty? I'd be happy to be a partner in this venture.
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[Jun 22,2009 1:05pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""]
basically i'll help as much as you need, i don't wanna sound like i'm trying to take over your idea.
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[Jun 22,2009 1:10pm - RustyPS ""]
oh you don't sound like that at all....unless someone else wants to step up and take the lead off of my hands, I'll gladly do it
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[Jun 22,2009 1:10pm - RichHorror ""]
I am only good at sending mp3s of my band.
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[Jun 22,2009 1:14pm - RustyPS ""]

RichHorror said:I am only good at sending mp3s of my band.
...and you'll get your chance to show off that talent soon enough
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[Jun 22,2009 1:16pm - RichHorror ""]
I am good at drinking and throwing up on things too.
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[Jun 22,2009 1:18pm - RustyPS ""]
great talent to have, just doesn't translate to putting something like this together
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[Jun 22,2009 1:21pm - dreadkill ""]
if you throw up on something, you let it know you own it.
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[Jun 22,2009 1:22pm - RichHorror ""]
Same thing with jizzing on it. There is an essay on this subject by Richard Tiberius Horror, Esq elsewhere on this website.
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[Jun 22,2009 1:24pm - RustyPS ""]
TIBERIUS! YES!
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[Jun 22,2009 2:05pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""]
I definitely don't want the lead, but i will do the duping and printing all the labels too.
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[Jun 22,2009 2:10pm - RustyPS ""]
...which is beyond appreciated
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[Jun 22,2009 2:15pm - BoarcorpseJimbo ""]
likewise^^ I don't like heading up things like this. I would assume it's tough deciding who to put on etc.. but it's a great idea, and i wanna see it happen.
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[Jun 22,2009 2:22pm - RustyPS ""]
well here's my idea bands-wise:

20-25 bands, depending on song lengths

first come, first serve...although if you can help me out in some way and you're in a band, the band will cut the line and make it on

while I want a diverse lineup of bands, that's the only way I can see it being fair...but that's the point of this thread, if someone else can come up with a better way while still being fair, post it

btw, don't send me anything yet...not ready to put shit together
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[Jun 22,2009 2:31pm - dreadkill ""]
my take on throwing up on things was an allusion to the jizzing essay by r.t. horror, esq.

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