Riverside / Jolly US tour!
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[Jan 14,2013 2:06pm - arilliusbm ""]
Only 70s prog plz.
[Jan 14,2013 2:10pm - veqlargh ""]
Man, that Jolly band is even gayer than I could have ever imagined.
[Jan 14,2013 2:20pm - sinislazy ""]
Haven't liked the last couple of Riverside releases, but I'd like to check out a live show. The Reality Dream dvd is killer.
[Jan 14,2013 2:35pm - nekronaut ""]
Spence said:
nekronaut said:I listened to both bands and i'm claiming Riverside suck when it's really just me who sucks.
I listened to both bands, I don't like it. Fuck off, you little smug know it all piece of shit.
[Jan 14,2013 2:58pm - largefreakatzero ""]
You should headbutt Spence off the internet for his 18th birthday.
[Jan 14,2013 3:32pm - Spence ""]
nekronaut said:
Spence said:
nekronaut said:I listened to both bands and i'm claiming Riverside suck when it's really just me who sucks.
I listened to both bands, I don't like it. Fuck off, you little smug know it all piece of shit.
I'm sorry, but it's hard to take that comment seriously from someone with a username that starts with Nekro. What are you, 13? Only 13 year olds get upset and start internet fights over music.
[Jan 14,2013 3:36pm - Yeti ""]
i actually dig that first Jolly video, but the first 14 seconds almost deterred me completely. i hate that shit, just shut up and post your fucking video. we get it, you're so creative and down-to-Earth.
[Jan 14,2013 3:40pm - Yeti ""]
oh and this thread was for the most part very, very gay. I hate when people say "oh they sound like X band mixed with X band". Jolly sounds nothing like Tool or 311, and marginally like Porcupine Tree.
[Jan 14,2013 3:44pm - Spence ""]
Yeti said:Jolly sounds nothing like Tool
Yeah really, the reason I hadn't taken the time to listen to Jolly before was because i've heard on MULTIPLE(so not just one) occasions that Jolly are just a gayer/lamer version of Tool.
I guess I can see a Tool influence, but I don't see why anyone could say they sound like Tool.
This is exactly why everyone should listen to bands for themselves and not just write bands off based off what other people say.
ETA: in b4 "but you didn't listen to them right away", well duh, but i'm going to see them live so I would've heard them eventually anyway.
[Jan 14,2013 3:51pm - arilliusbm ""]
I'm still going to give both bands a fair shot because I'm not too familiar with them. Was certainly unimpressed upon initial listening. I really don't like modern sounding "prog" too much, oh noes.
[Jan 14,2013 3:57pm - nekronaut ""]
Spence said:
nekronaut said:
Spence said:
nekronaut said:I listened to both bands and i'm claiming Riverside suck when it's really just me who sucks.
I listened to both bands, I don't like it. Fuck off, you little smug know it all piece of shit.
I'm sorry, but it's hard to take that comment seriously from someone with a username that starts with Nekro. What are you, 13? Only 13 year olds get upset and start internet fights over music.
I didn't tell you to fuck off over your taste in music that I don't like. I told you to fuck off because I can't stand you.
[Jan 14,2013 3:57pm - Spence ""]
arilliusbm said:I'm still going to give both bands a fair shot because I'm not too familiar with them. Was certainly unimpressed upon initial listening. I really don't like modern sounding "prog" too much, oh noes.
Everything Steven Wilson touches is pretty much the only post-80'd prog that I truly listen to often. I don't even really consider Riverside that proggie, it's just "prog" fits them better than any other genre terminology. I've heard some people toss around that their first album is more ambient, but I don't know if I entirely agree or not.
[Jan 14,2013 3:58pm - Spence ""]
nekronaut said:
I didn't tell you to fuck off over your taste in music that I don't like. I told you to fuck off because I can't stand you.
Cool angst bro.
[Jan 14,2013 4:07pm - xgodzillax ""]
someone needs to beat some humility into this smug little faggot.
[Jan 14,2013 4:26pm - Spence ""]
Really don't understand what all the hemorrhaging over me is about. I seldom go to concerts now, I never go to local shows anymore because most(not all) of the local bands suck and I don't even post on this forum that much. When I DO post, it's because some of you have legit taste in music and i'm here to talk about music, not to be told by insecure 30 year olds that they hate me and think i'm a faggot. (and are also still narrowminded enough to think faggot is an appropriate insult and not totally homophobic)
I'm not part of your silly elitist scene at all, so I don't see why you people think insulting/borderline threatening me is going to make me say "OH WOW, BETTER CHANGE MY LIFE AROUND". I'm just here to hear about bands and offer my two cents every now and then, which I do. It's not like any of you will ever see me in person, and if you do, just flip me the bird and carry on with your day.
Of course, if you're personally offering to "beat some humility" into me, i'm afraid I must decline. I'm actually heterosexual, and don't particularly want your hand near my cock.
[Jan 14,2013 4:26pm - ArrowHead Logged In ""]
nekronaut said:I listened to both bands and they both suck.
I have way more respect for that than any of the other shit people have said thus far.
You earned your opinion.
[Jan 14,2013 4:29pm - ArrowHead Logged In ""]
arilliusbm said:I miss the old helloween Arrowhead; must have listened to too much post-Focus Cynic to where it turned him sour.
Actually, Jolly appeals to bouncy happy pete.
But old pete would recommend a band and people would actually LISTEN TO IT before calling it gay.
New Cynic is rumored to have more metal - I'll believe it when I see it.
New EXIVIOUS is coming, and sounds fucking monstrous. I have private video links of tracking they send me for pre-ordering the album. I can't wait for it to be finished. I have you to thank for turning me on to those guys.
[Jan 14,2013 4:33pm - arilliusbm ""]
Thanks for keeping it civil. I reread what I said and I sounded like a douche, as always. And metal Cynic? Yea right.
[Jan 14,2013 4:33pm - ArrowHead Logged In ""]
Yeti said:oh and this thread was for the most part very, very gay. I hate when people say "oh they sound like X band mixed with X band". Jolly sounds nothing like Tool or 311, and marginally like Porcupine Tree.
Should I break it down for you?
311 - the vocal harmonies and bass sound throughout ALL of "Where Everything's Perfect"
Tool - The polyrhythmic interplay in the middle of "The Pattern" as well as their love of 7/8, which is also the primary signature of most of Tool's catalog.
The Cure, The Smiths - faggy vocals and groovy ballads about love. They play Smiths covers.
Again - it's why I recommend people LISTEN to it instead of basing their view of my attempt to describe a band that most anyone here would have a hard time describing. I'm pretty musically literate, and you'll note even my description wasn't accurate to you - my entire beef with Dreadkill's claim.
[Jan 14,2013 4:37pm - ArrowHead Logged In ""]
xgodzillax said:someone needs to beat some humility into this smug little faggot.
This thread is smug faggot central. Which one of us do you mean?
[Jan 14,2013 4:42pm - veqlargh ""]
If something even remotely sounds like 311, even if only to one person, I want as little to do with it as humanly possible. However, I listened to the Jolly track and deduced that it actually is similar to 311, as both bands share the same uncanny ability to generate images of dicks rubbing together. All in all, I can say with 100% certainty that anyone who likes Jolly has bad taste in music.
Oh and by the way, using something as broad as a time signature is not an accurate way of comparing two bands. By that logic, Avril Lavigne sounds like Funebrarum because both have at some point used 4/4.
[Jan 14,2013 4:47pm - The Only Truth In This Thread ""]
Spence said: i'm a faggot
[Jan 14,2013 4:52pm - veqlargh ""]
Riverside: All those notes and not a single moment of discernible inspiration. The vocalist sounds almost as bored as I was listening.
[Jan 14,2013 5:16pm - Yeti ""]
BLAH BLAH BLAH it's all subjective.
[Jan 14,2013 5:17pm - Yeti ""]
veqlargh said:Oh and by the way, using something as broad as a time signature is not an accurate way of comparing two bands. By that logic, Avril Lavigne sounds like Funebrarum because both have at some point used 4/4.
bingo. Attila does not sound like Emperor because they use harsh vocals.
[Jan 14,2013 6:59pm - ArrowHead Logged In ""]
Yeti said:
veqlargh said:Oh and by the way, using something as broad as a time signature is not an accurate way of comparing two bands. By that logic, Avril Lavigne sounds like Funebrarum because both have at some point used 4/4.
bingo. Attila does not sound like Emperor because they use harsh vocals.
Quick, name another popular band that has multiple well known songs in 7/8
Most people hear 7/8 and say "that sounds like tool". Thus the many tool comparisons.
Glad you guys disagree, but I'm not really in need of a musical education here.
[Jan 14,2013 7:00pm - ArrowHead Logged In ""]
Yeti said:BLAH BLAH BLAH it's all subjective.
That's what I've been saying with the blah blah blah. Not sure what you think you're proving. Just listen, and like or dislike. Don't start pecking at the description I gave like a faggot.
[Jan 14,2013 11:17pm - xgodzillax ""]
ArrowHead%20Logged%20In said:Quick, name another popular band that has multiple well known songs in 7/8
Most people hear 7/8 and say "that sounds like tool". Thus the many tool comparisons.
Glad you guys disagree, but I'm not really in need of a musical education here.
im not gonna try and say that they necessarily use 7/8, but RUSH uses a lot of odd time signatures, as does dillenger escape plan, also neurosis, coalesce, etc etc etc..
#wonton
[Jan 15,2013 7:18am - veqlargh ""]
ArrowHead%20Logged%20In said:
Yeti said:
veqlargh said:Oh and by the way, using something as broad as a time signature is not an accurate way of comparing two bands. By that logic, Avril Lavigne sounds like Funebrarum because both have at some point used 4/4.
bingo. Attila does not sound like Emperor because they use harsh vocals.
Glad you guys disagree, but I'm not really in need of a musical education here. I am well aware that that is what YOU think, however, if the best you can come up with to compare a band to is 311 and Tool, not only do you have a limited musical knowledge, but it would appear to me that it is based entirely on the WAAF top 10 lineup circa 1997. But please, feel free to 'dazzle us with your knowledge of the fine arts' (let's see if you can tell me what band that is from without using google.)
[Jan 15,2013 7:33am - Alx_Casket ""]
I listened, sounds a LOT like 311. Not bad.
[Jan 15,2013 7:40am - Yeti ""]
ArrowHead%20Logged%20In said:
Yeti said:BLAH BLAH BLAH it's all subjective.
That's what I've been saying with the blah blah blah. Not sure what you think you're proving. Just listen, and like or dislike. Don't start pecking at the description I gave like a faggot.
i guess i was just trying to prove that this thread is gay.
[Jan 15,2013 9:30am - KEVORD ""]
I won't have my right to call someone here a faggot taken away by some little faggot. But I did like when Spence burned Notshaver.
[Jan 15,2013 12:08pm - ArrowHead is a Logger ""]
veqlargh said: compare a band to Tool, not only do you have a limited musical knowledge, but it would appear to me that it is based entirely on the WAAF top 10 lineup circa 1997.
Yet the only other band you could mention was Rush, which was a little earlier than 1997 if I recall...
Also first tool album was 1993, not 1997.
Meanwhile - people hear 7/8 and think of tool. Sorry that bothers you.
[Jan 15,2013 1:12pm - veqlargh ""]
When did I mention Rush? Do YOU even know what you are talking about?
[Jan 15,2013 1:15pm - Yeti ""]
hahaha oh no, nowadays Arrowhead is going the way of eyehatehippies.
[Jan 15,2013 2:15pm - nekronaut ""]
Didn't rush form in the 60's?
[Jan 15,2013 2:33pm - KEVORD ""]
nekronaut said:Didn't rush form in the 60's?NO
[Jan 15,2013 2:59pm - veqlargh ""]
Rush WAS formed in the 60's, although I don't see what that has to do with how gay 311 fans are, which is what I was talking about.
[Jan 15,2013 3:25pm - KEVORD ""]
Geddy Lee technically formed rush in 68. But the weren't really a solid band till the early 70's and released their first album in 74. So I wouldn't really consider them a 60's band.
[Jan 15,2013 3:38pm - veqlargh ""]
I didn't say they were a 60's band, I said they were formed in the 60's. Why are we talking about Rush all of a sudden? Let's talk about how gay Jolly is, and how anyone who likes them should be euthanized.
[Jan 15,2013 3:46pm - arilliusbm ""]
KEVORD said:Geddy Lee technically formed rush in 68. But the weren't really a solid band till the early 70's and released their first album in 74. So I wouldn't really consider them a 60's band.
They were a Zeppelin worship band until Neil joined.
[Jan 15,2013 3:50pm - KEVORD ""]
Exactly, The didn't really become Rush till Fly By Night.
[Jan 15,2013 4:21pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
ArrowHead%20Logged%20In said:
dreadkill said:Nothing sad or retarded about that.
You're right, nothing sad about ignoring 5 posted videos in a row and instead dismiss a band based on a comparison on the internet by a dude you clearly don't agree with.
In the end, it's about bands getting a shot at our ear. When you already enjoy the headliner, and it's only a sacrifice of a few minutes, not listening is asinine.
Right now Jolly is looking at some traumatic shit. They just lost their entire studio, rehearsal space, and home. All their gear, the entire new album that was being recorded, etc... gone. And that is added to the difficulty of them trying to build a following, just like you or any other musician has to deal with. And for every one person I've seen listen and say "this is great" or "this sucks", I've seen 5 guys like you who won't even bother to listen. Sad. Retarded.
To put it in perspective, when you first started promoting Dreaded Silence over on the Baystate Rock board some, what, ten years ago? I took the five minutes and listened. Granted, I'm not a huge fan, but I LISTENED. Same went for The Departed/Sacreligion, and all the other locals at the time. In fact, rarely will I see someone post a song, link, or video that I don't listen to it. Rarely do I dig it, but to me it's how I find a huge amount of music I've never heard of. Listening, not going off reviews, names, genres, or comparisons.
TLDR - listen to it. What's the worst that happens, you don't like a song?
Ken, you literally burned down their studio and crashed their van by not watching that video.
[Jan 15,2013 4:35pm - dreadkill ""]
Hurricane Sandy took all the credit for my handiwork.
[Jan 15,2013 7:40pm - ArrowHead is a Logger ""]
Err... no - I'm saying every chance to win a new fan is a good one for these guys.
They're not really the type of band that's going to have a massive popular appeal.
[Jan 15,2013 7:42pm - ArrowHead is a Logger ""]
Yeti said:hahaha oh no, nowadays Arrowhead is going the way of eyehatehippies.
I don't remember much about eyehatehippies, so not sure if it's funny or insulting.
If it's funny, haha I totally get the joke.
If it's insulting - you're bald. And you sound like 311.
[Jan 17,2013 7:44am - Yeti ""]
you're a weird guy Ace, weird guy.