Promoter Says 'Straight Edgers' Are To Blame For DIECAST Concert Fight[views:12088][posts:48]______________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 10:26am - RustedAngel ""] "Matthew D. LaPlante of The Salt Lake Tribune is reporting that a Midvale concert promoter whose heavy metal concert was ruined last week when fans started fighting with band members and with security is blaming local devotees of the Straight Edge movement — and he now plans to exclude members of the anti-establishment group from future shows. "Every band I talk to is worried to come to Salt Lake because they're worried about the Straight Edgers here," said Solid Entertainment promoter Bobby Baugh, who noted that the group, in most other communities, practices a lifestyle free of violence. Many Straight Edgers describe their group as an unaffiliated network of people with a similar ideology that eschews drugs, alcohol, sex and civic participation, such as voting. Most members, proponents say, also renounce violence. Baugh said he will have bouncers screen ticket holders at the door and keep out those who appear to be Straight Edgers. Baugh said a metal group known as DIECAST was on stage at a downtown Midvale Club on Saturday evening when several Straight Edgers took the stage and began to attack the singer. When members from another band, HATEPIECE, attempted to intervene, they were attacked as well. Baugh said he invited a Sacramento group, THE HOODS, to play a short set at the concert at the last minute. Though he knew THE HOODS had a Straight Edge following, Baugh figured their late addition to the ticket would prevent many Straight Edge fans from showing up. "That's where I was wrong," said Baugh, who had five security guards and about 150 fans on hand. "They got on the phone with their friends. Word got out they were here. I really didn't expect it to turn out that way." No arrests have been made in the fight, in which several security guards and band members were injured. Officers from six agencies responded, but those involved in the fight had left. Utah gang officers say members of the Straight Edge movement comprise the largest gang in the state. Individual members sometimes affiliate with animal liberation and environmental extremists and have a terroristic bent, police claim." |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 10:43am - Josh_Martin ""] RustedAngel said:Baugh said he will have bouncers screen ticket holders at the door and keep out those who appear to be Straight Edgers. Do they all have those gay Xs on their hands? How do you appear straight edge? He should have a big mirror with a few hundred lines cut out on it. Anyone who won't do a line doesn't get in. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 10:44am - assuck ""] ha |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 10:48am - RustedAngel ""] Josh_Martin said: Do they all have those gay Xs on their hands? How do you appear straight edge? He should have a big mirror with a few hundred lines cut out on it. Anyone who won't do a line doesn't get in. HEHEH. I'll try to find out from diecast what exactly happend. I think it's gay when edgers fight people for not being edge. There are still a few really cool edge kids who aren't gay about it at all, Dave/STF being one of them. There are those who ruin it for the rest of the bunch just like any other scene. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 10:50am - the_reverend ""] I'm sure they had vegan super strength |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 10:51am - the_reverend ""] they should all just get group married. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 10:55am - litacore ""] 'a heavy metal concert', yeah right BLASPHEMY! that movie 'SLC Punk' was entertaining though |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 10:55am - RustedAngel ""] aaron, i know where you live, don't make me jump you. i've heard about your drinking habit. hahahhaah. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 11:02am - Timma nli ""] if any straight edger tried to give me shit i'd pound a fifth of jager in front of their face, smash the bottle on my head, and bring on the pain drunken asshole style. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 11:23am - pisscup ""] hahahaha |
| __________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 11:29am - damnose ""] hahaha, the irony here is delicious. I've seen FSU/tuff guys try to beat up another band at a diecast show a few years ago, because the band wasn't hardcore enough. now, they've been attacked for not being straight edge? group mentality thugs really need to get their enemies straight! |
| _____________________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 11:29am - Todd(bombshelter) ""] it is easy to tell straight edge kids, I usually can |
| __________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 11:33am - pisscup ""] Todd said:it is easy to tell straight edge kids, I usually can yeah, they're the one's not having fun. |
| _________________________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 11:39am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] this is all so wrong and yet so funny. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 11:42am - timMa ""] i really don't have a problem with straight edge kids. my only issue is when they try to act tough because of it. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 11:46am - XmikeX ""] 1. Who fights the dude from Breeding Ground? Like that's even worth it. STOOOOOPID |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 11:47am - Joe/NotCommon ""] nice going xMikex, tell your friends in Salt Lake City to cut the shit. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 11:49am - XmikeX ""] Joe/NotCommon said:nice going xMikex, tell your friends in Salt Lake City to cut the shit. Salt Lake City can eat my ass. There's only one guy I respect in Utah, and he's not even straightedge.... http://www.xmission.com/~maddox |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 12:02pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] what's the point of being sXe in Utah? Mormons are more edge than them anyway. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 12:30pm - jake ""] hilarious. funny thing about the utah straight edge team squad - someone started a rumor in this area not too long ago having to do with said straight edge gang coming up here to literally blow up a PAL hall or some VFW during a show. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 12:33pm - SuperFly ""] straight edgers are to blame for all the worlds problems. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 12:57pm - XmikeX ""] jake said:hilarious. funny thing about the utah straight edge team squad - someone started a rumor in this area not too long ago having to do with said straight edge gang coming up here to literally blow up a PAL hall or some VFW during a show. they'll never own the fall river PAl like toss a fish crew did. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 1:18pm - Christraper ""] I never understood straight edgers. I can understand not wanting to do drugs or drink (sort of) but no sex??? C'mon! Dont these people realize that almost all serial killers were sexually frustrated?? This is not a state of mind you want to be in! If i go more than a week without sex i start getting violent. Imagine what these idiots must be going through! |
| _________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 1:20pm - pisscup ""] I don't think the edgers swear off sex nowadays... or homosexuality for that matter. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 2:02pm - DaveSTF ""] Yeah it really doesn't. It's the belief of living a clean lifestyle. And to some, promiscuous(sp?) sex is unpure. to some it's not. It makes sense guys like Christraper don't understand that because they just got lines of women waiting to fuck them. You know... guitars for a black metal band, satan worships, frequent visits to RTTP, all characteristics that chicks just are waiting to find in a man to fuck.:bow: just kidding buddy. I'm indifferent to this whole thing cuz you're hearing one side of a story, it's quite possible that it was just a fight that had nothing to do with a straight edge alliance. Maybe it was a bunch of hardcore kids in general. you never know. Unfortunate anyways. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 2:06pm - Christraper ""] DaveSTF said:It makes sense guys like Christraper don't understand that because they just got lines of women waiting to fuck them. You know... guitars for a black metal band, satan worships, frequent visits to RTTP, all characteristics that chicks just are waiting to find in a man to fuck.:bow: just kidding buddy. Word.:spineyes: |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 2:07pm - the_reverend ""] anyone remember Earth Crisis playing manch-vegas in the late 90's at the cafe downtown? non-se'ers got the beat down with poolsticks. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 2:08pm - DaveSTF ""] ha!:NEWHORNS: |
| _________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 2:10pm - pisscup ""] the_reverend said:anyone remember Earth Crisis playing manch-vegas in the late 90's at the cafe downtown? non-se'ers got the beat down with poolsticks. I wonder how many NEFAC members also rock the edge. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 2:11pm - Josh_Martin ""] DaveSTF said:It's the belief of living a clean lifestyle. When your were little did you destroy lots of Oscar the Grouch dolls? He's pretty dirty y'know. What about Pigpen from Peanuts? He must give you guys coniption fits. If you get mud spattered on you how long do you have to get to a shower before its considered breaking your edge? It must be hard being clean constantly. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 2:13pm - DaveSTF ""] you sounds like a two year old. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 2:16pm - Josh_Martin ""] I act like one too. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 2:18pm - Josh_Martin ""] How many straight edgers does it take to change a light bulb? 21. 1 to change the bulb and 20 to "watch his back" |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 2:18pm - swamplorddvm ""] I blame breakdowns. Those breakdowns always create such anger. You go away momy, poopy head!!! gggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| ________________________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 8:48pm - humanbonedeathmachine ""] Josh_Martin said:How many straight edgers does it take to change a light bulb? none, edgers havent changed a gooddamn thing |
| ______________________________ [Jan 27,2005 8:52pm - blue ""] why cant we all just get along? the only thing diecast brings is the OOOOOOOOOOOOOOWOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 9:21pm - mikehuntstinks ""] I'm all for anyone wanting to assult or murder diecast straight edge or not stra:gun::duffbeer:ight edge |
| ________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 9:40pm - retzam ""] Way to go hardcore morons. It's amazing how they continue to create a bad name for the simple concept of abstainance from drugs. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 10:40pm - tbone_r ""] every time there's a fight at a show you hear "234190 fsu kids jumped a 12 yr old girl", when in actuality there probably weren't any fsu kids there in the first place and the 'fight' was 2 kids kissing. it's probably the same way w/ sxe kids over there... especially the kissing |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 10:47pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] tbone_r said:every time there's a fight at a show you hear "234190 fsu kids jumped a 12 yr old girl", when in actuality there probably weren't any fsu kids there in the first place and the 'fight' was 2 kids kissing. it's probably the same way w/ sxe kids over there... especially the kissing Exactly what I've been saying anytime someone starts an "FSU BEAT UP MY FREND!" thread |
| __________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 10:59pm - DaveSTF ""] Check this out... Diecast Respond To Violence At Utah Show [ 1.27.2005 ] In response to the earlier Blabbermouth posting in regards to violence at the recent DIECAST show in Utah bassist Jeremy Wooden checks in to tell everyone what really happened. First off DIECAST never condoned this press release. Not once did we feel threatened or endangered during our performance. The show was going well until the promoter got extremely unorganized and the band's set times started getting cut in half. Both local band played full sets, while the national acts (Winter Solstice, Hoods and us) were limited to 15 min. Once the crowd found out those bands could only play a few songs they started getting upset. Our set started off great and the hardcore kids were dancing and singing along. It appeared that the security have never worked this type of show before and once kids started coming on stage to sing along to "Disrepair" the security began to violently push them away from the stage. Tired of being repeatedly being pushed away, the kids retaliated on the security. This went back and forth through the remainder of the song and ended up getting way out of hand. It appears that having the kids singing along got misconstrued into them attacking Paul (vocals) and none of DIECAST were attacked or harmed during this performance. It was unfortunate that we only got to play two songs for the fans that came out to see us and we can't wait to come back to play a venue in Utah where the security knows how to handle this type of event. Due to this press release being issued and the unprofessional actions of promotor Bobby Baugh, DIECAST will never play another event for Solid Entertainment. We thank everyone that came out to support this tour and we will be back soon. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 28,2005 7:26am - tbone_r ""] kissing, singing along, same thing |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 28,2005 11:00am - thegreatspaldino ""] god do i hate Diecast |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 28,2005 11:35am - danny p ""] blue said:the only thing diecast brings is the OOOOOOOOOOOOOOWOOOOOOOOOOOO hahahahahahaah WHOA-LOOOOOOOO-OOOOOEEEOOOO |
| _________________________________ [Jan 28,2005 12:33pm - XmikeX ""] thegreatspaldino said:god do i hate Diecast then quit the band. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 28,2005 12:39pm - tbone_r @work ""] ooooooo |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 28,2005 12:40pm - tbone_r @work ""] spalding likes diecast, pass it down |
| __________________________________ [Jan 25,2007 12:58pm - orchidx ""] i was there when it happened. fun show. that bobby baugh guy is a white supremacist too he has the ADOLF HITLER THIRD REICH NAZI SYMBOL tattooed on him and his head shaved. and seriously what diecast said about it was exactly what happened noone in diecast was injured and they even finished playing the song. just think of the big sing along in the song disrepair "now is the time to live" "Now is the time to fight" and think of a big sing along riot fight. good times. haha. but really. good times... |
| _______________________________ [Jan 25,2007 1:32pm - aeser ""] RustedAngel said: Many Straight Edgers describe their group as an unaffiliated network of people with a similar ideology that eschews drugs, alcohol, sex and civic participation, such as voting. since when did straight edge involve not voting? this reads like a sensationalist pile of shit suitable for the herald. |