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Black Metal Show March 5th Cancelled

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[Feb 16,2005 2:24pm - anonymous  ""]
New England Black Metal Show Cancelled due to threats

March 5th show has been cancelled due to CNV and threatening the venue and acts that will be performing the show.
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[Feb 16,2005 2:36pm - BestialOnslaught ""]
Serious? I fucking hate PC fags.
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[Feb 16,2005 2:39pm - armageddonday ""]
What do you expect Alex? That people are to embrace the "nazi"shit?Seriously, I don't think you have to be a PC fag to not support that shit.
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[Feb 16,2005 2:40pm - RustedAngel ""]
I love PC's.

down with macs.
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[Feb 16,2005 2:40pm - RustedAngel ""]
armageddonday said:What do you expect Alex? That people are to embrace the "nazi"shit?Seriously, I don't think you have to be a PC fag to not support that shit.


amen sister anne.
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[Feb 16,2005 2:41pm - Hooker ""]
UH OHHHHHH.

300 + replies.
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[Feb 16,2005 2:44pm - BestialOnslaught ""]
armageddonday said:What do you expect Alex? That people are to embrace the "nazi"shit?Seriously, I don't think you have to be a PC fag to not support that shit.


There's a difference between "not supporting" and making threats.

CNV is a good band.
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[Feb 16,2005 2:46pm - RustedAngel ""]
I'll threaten anything with my size 9.
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[Feb 16,2005 2:47pm - Hooker ""]
Is that shoe size?
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[Feb 16,2005 2:49pm - litacore ""]
I support black metal ESPECIALLY New England Black Metal, although as a rule I don't endorse NSBM. Where is the line drawn, however.
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[Feb 16,2005 2:51pm - RustedAngel ""]
Hooker said:Is that shoe size?


no, dong length. yes shoe size.
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[Feb 16,2005 2:59pm - swamplorddvm ""]
nazis are fags. I'm not saying CNV are. But the word 'nazi' came up on this thread. All I'm saying is nazis are ignorant retards.
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[Feb 16,2005 3:04pm - litacore ""]
swamplorddvm said:nazis are fags. I'm not saying CNV are. But the word 'nazi' came up on this thread. All I'm saying is nazis are ignorant retards.


Nazis need to be drowned like rats. Give 'em a taste of their own medicine.:gun:
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[Feb 16,2005 3:04pm - armageddonday ""]
swamplorddvm said:nazis are fags. I'm not saying CNV are. But the word 'nazi' came up on this thread. All I'm saying is nazis are ignorant retards.



yeah when I say nazis I basically included a few other terms that would be more appropriate...which to me are as crappy, it's just a terminology really. All the ideologies the nazis had as far as race, homosexuals, handicapped...are one thing that really bothers me.
I would assimilate it with white power shit.
I certainly don't include heritage pride or anything like that.
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[Feb 16,2005 3:43pm - Kinslayer  ""]
I was just talking to someone from Perpetual Winter. I don't think this show is canceled unless it happened in the last 30 mins..
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[Feb 16,2005 4:09pm - Christraper ""]
if this is true its a whole mess of homosexual
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[Feb 16,2005 5:19pm - Abbath ""]
why are people so hellbent on ruining black metal in new england?
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[Feb 16,2005 5:26pm - thegreatspaldino ""]
RustedAngel said:I'll threaten anything with my size 9.


dude... if you are going to threathen anyone with a boot... dont do it with a size 9... do it with a 16, like i have
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[Feb 16,2005 5:31pm - Hooker ""]
There you go.
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[Feb 16,2005 5:46pm - Strep_Cunt ""]
Abbath said:why are people so hellbent on ruining black metal in new england?


I'd have to ask the same question. I don't see any groups threatening any BROOTAL DEATH shows, hardcore shows, etc. Is this simply for one band in the area? It's really fuckin horrible. CNV, from what I understand, is not a nazi band and they're GREAT!!!! It's so unfortunate that they have to get all this shit flung at them.
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[Feb 16,2005 5:46pm - frozenforest  ""]
i know cnv, they do not preach there beliefs upon anyone they just like to play blackmetal,anonymous is a fucking retard
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[Feb 16,2005 6:44pm - Kinslayer  ""]
This show is still going on for those of you wondering. I have just confirmed that. Unless for some reason this sorry-ass local 'anti-facist' group decide to contact the venue and request that the show be shut down...it will go on...

Please do not spoil this show for us. This show has no political ties; it is merely a live event showcasing some of the local black metal talent and I do hope those of you that support black metal musically and ideologically will come out and show support for this show...

Keep in mind it is also a canned food drive for the local homeless. Your entry price will decrease upon presentation of some type of non-perishable food...

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[Feb 16,2005 6:46pm - Demogorgon  ""]
You fucks know nothing of National Socialism. Your just ignorant little hippie faggot college kids who know nothing about the true meaning behind BM in general. BM is based off of hate. Hate for christians. but, NSBM is so horrible? get a fucking clue. NS doesn't equal Hitler.
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[Feb 16,2005 6:55pm - Kinslayer  ""]
Let's avoid a big dramatic arguement and all ignore the above comment...while there is some validity to what Demogorgon says, it's just instigation...

Let it alone...
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[Feb 16,2005 7:06pm - Demogorgon  ""]
another perfect example. since when is BM about avoiding an argument and not causing waves? your all caught in satyr's bull shit goal of bringing BM to america. BM isn't just the style of music. It is where it comes from as well.
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[Feb 16,2005 7:11pm - Dissector ""]
Oh man, here we go...
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[Feb 16,2005 7:12pm - Kinslayer  ""]
Demogorgon, feel free to IM me on AOL .. kinslayerwar is the name. We can talk. Believe me, for the most part, I'm 100% on your side but this is not the message board for this type of shit.. I avoid this board like the plague but when shit happening on it directly affects my band, I have to speak up...Honestly. Leave this board be. Shoot me an IM.
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[Feb 16,2005 8:01pm - Demogorgon  ""]
its sad. people like this make one ashamed to say they listen to BM in america. do you have any idea what the stereotype of an american is to a wegie? hah
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[Feb 16,2005 8:03pm - anonymous  ""]
Keep in mind it is also a canned food drive for the local homeless.

is this what black metal has come to?
in my day we SHOWED NO MERCY for human scum
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[Feb 16,2005 8:16pm - Demogorgon  ""]
you have got to be kidding? wow. american BM is something else.
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[Feb 16,2005 8:57pm - BestialOnslaught ""]
Haha well at least the homeless people in Vermont are bound to be white, right?
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[Feb 16,2005 9:49pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
WELCOME BACK DYMITRY!
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[Feb 17,2005 12:13am - rachel  ""]
I can like a band without following their ideology. People need to realize it is just an opinion and everyone should be able to speak what they believe even if it hurts a few feelings.
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[Feb 17,2005 12:16am - the_reverend ""]
funny that people are ok with certian polish national bands...
but they are against cnv
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[Feb 17,2005 3:24am - Demogorgon  ""]
BM isn't just about the music. get a fucking clue.
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[Feb 17,2005 3:46am - thegreatspaldino ""]
i dont see why people that like and play black metal have to follow a certain mindset in order to be considered BM... its just a fucking style of music that sounds good to the listener. i listen to death metal... so now i am going to have to enjoy watching horror movies, fantasize about killing people and eating thier sexual organs? i listen to power metal, so now i have to be all goofy and talk about middle-earth like i fucking lived there? fuck no. music is music, it accompanies life in all of its shitty "glory". the music you listen to should not mold your lifestyle. you do that on your own, based on your moral beliefs. acting a certain way because thats the stereotypical behavior of the kind of music you listen is fucking GAY. also, assuming that every person follows the stereotype is also ignorant. take some time to evaluate the scene around here... the only stereotype that most of us are guilty of is a little close-mindedness when it comes to musical diversity (and a little hate torwards homosexuality, but hey thats everywhere), but besides that, thats about it. (unless you count the hardcore people, then a lot those kids follow the stereotypical army hat/punch people for no reason fad). but yes, there is no church burning or hate crimes being committed. and BM isnt just about the music... to total fucking idiots.
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[Feb 17,2005 4:16am - Demogorgon  ""]
BM has always been about more than just the music. its more than just a genre. BM itself was created as a lifestyle with the music itself coming along to be a further expression of the lifestyle. Just because death and power metal are just genres of music, that doesn't mean scum like you should water down black metal. You'll never understand being an elitest because quite frankly, your lacking superiority of any kind.
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[Feb 17,2005 8:26am - Joe/NotCommon ""]
thegreatspaldino said:RustedAngel said:I'll threaten anything with my size 9.


dude... if you are going to threathen anyone with a boot... dont do it with a size 9... do it with a 16, like i have



and then threaten to sue people who stand up to you?
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[Feb 17,2005 8:34am - the_reverend ""]
Demogorgon said:BM has always been about more than just the music.... created as a lifestyle


and we all know where that leads...
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[Feb 17,2005 9:23am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
When you blindly follow BM ideology you fall into the same category as those you oppose and call weak-minded. Starting a club for people who want to express their misanthropy is really cool.
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[Feb 17,2005 10:02am - Christraper ""]
thegreatspaldino said:i dont see why people that like and play black metal have to follow a certain mindset in order to be considered BM... its just a fucking style of music that sounds good to the listener. i listen to death metal... so now i am going to have to enjoy watching horror movies, fantasize about killing people and eating thier sexual organs? i listen to power metal, so now i have to be all goofy and talk about middle-earth like i fucking lived there? fuck no. music is music, it accompanies life in all of its shitty "glory". the music you listen to should not mold your lifestyle. you do that on your own, based on your moral beliefs. acting a certain way because thats the stereotypical behavior of the kind of music you listen is fucking GAY. also, assuming that every person follows the stereotype is also ignorant. take some time to evaluate the scene around here... the only stereotype that most of us are guilty of is a little close-mindedness when it comes to musical diversity (and a little hate torwards homosexuality, but hey thats everywhere), but besides that, thats about it. (unless you count the hardcore people, then a lot those kids follow the stereotypical army hat/punch people for no reason fad). but yes, there is no church burning or hate crimes being committed. and BM isnt just about the music... to total fucking idiots.


word


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[Feb 17,2005 12:01pm - damnose ""]
Demogorgon said: You'll never understand being an elitest because quite frankly, your lacking superiority of any kind.


I'd say that two spelling errors in one sentence doesn't give you much to be superior about. Nice name though; thanks for overthrowing Jupiter and releasing Prometheus!

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[Feb 17,2005 4:31pm - thegreatspaldino ""]
Demogorgon said:BM has always been about more than just the music. its more than just a genre. BM itself was created as a lifestyle with the music itself coming along to be a further expression of the lifestyle. Just because death and power metal are just genres of music, that doesn't mean scum like you should water down black metal. You'll never understand being an elitest because quite frankly, your lacking superiority of any kind.


sure thing, Necrobobsledder. go ice skate at the northern most fjord of Hjardskylaslf while drinking virgin goat's blood at the top of the highest and most northern grim and frostbitten mountain at midnight.
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[Feb 17,2005 4:36pm - Christraper ""]
The way hes talking down to everyone youd think hes already done that
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[Feb 17,2005 4:38pm - pisscup ""]
what the hell is going on now???
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[Feb 17,2005 4:38pm - Josh_Martin ""]
thegreatspaldino said: sure thing, Necrobobsledder. go ice skate at the northern most fjord of Hjardskylaslf while drinking virgin goat's blood at the top of the highest and most northern grim and frostbitten mountain at midnight.


HAHA!

Oh fuck, you almost made me miss being in that band.

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[Feb 17,2005 4:46pm - thegreatspaldino ""]
hahaha... that album cover is the best. i need to find a picture of that again... just looking at it makes me giggle a lot for hours.
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[Feb 17,2005 5:06pm - InVitroCannibalization ""]
thegreatspaldino said:i dont see why people that like and play black metal have to follow a certain mindset in order to be considered BM... its just a fucking style of music that sounds good to the listener. i listen to death metal... so now i am going to have to enjoy watching horror movies, fantasize about killing people and eating thier sexual organs? i listen to power metal, so now i have to be all goofy and talk about middle-earth like i fucking lived there? fuck no. music is music, it accompanies life in all of its shitty "glory". the music you listen to should not mold your lifestyle. you do that on your own, based on your moral beliefs. acting a certain way because thats the stereotypical behavior of the kind of music you listen is fucking GAY. also, assuming that every person follows the stereotype is also ignorant. take some time to evaluate the scene around here... the only stereotype that most of us are guilty of is a little close-mindedness when it comes to musical diversity (and a little hate torwards homosexuality, but hey thats everywhere), but besides that, thats about it. (unless you count the hardcore people, then a lot those kids follow the stereotypical army hat/punch people for no reason fad). but yes, there is no church burning or hate crimes being committed. and BM isnt just about the music... to total fucking idiots.




This is quite possibly the most intelligent thing that I have read all day.
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[Feb 17,2005 6:16pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""]
These people seriously need to get a fucking life...
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[Feb 17,2005 7:06pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""]
I guess the guy that is putting on the show has been getting tons of emails saying that we are a nazi band and this and that. Even the guy that runs Nasty Habits managed to put his two cents in. There was even one kid that said we were nazis because there is a Thor's Hammer in our logo?!!! To all these self righteous, holier than thou, and delusional sheeps , if CNV was a supposed nazi band don't you think that I would be bold enough to come out and clarify that we are a Nazi band? Have any of you ever met me? Have I had a fucking single conversation with any of you people? These little children that have absolutely NOTHING to do with black metal except the fact that they like a blast beat on a Dimmu Borgir record need to slap a label on something they do not understand and never will understand because it gives them comfort. Like brain dead ignorant christians they'll burn you at the stake for not fitting their oppressive mold. I've said it before and I'll say it again not that it really matters: I am not a nazi , I pledge allegiance to no one's idealogy, I have no interest in political black metal, and I have no interest in preaching to people. CNV is a OCCULT band with no boundaries. Very influenced by Paganism and nature and very misanthropic about the world. CNV is for the Occultic and magick ones only...
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[Feb 17,2005 7:10pm - Ninkaszi187 ""]
so is CNV doing this show or not? i can't believe people are making this such a big deal.
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[Feb 17,2005 7:15pm - Phil E.  ""]
wow, this is lame. Plenty of people are pagan and not sepratist homos anyway.
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[Feb 17,2005 7:54pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""]
The show will go on....Mike do you still want to do session vox for this?
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[Feb 17,2005 8:39pm - Demogorgon  ""]
HAHA GET THE FUCK OVER IT. ITS A CHARITY FOOD DRIVE BLACK METAL SHOW. that is the most fucking rediculous thing i have ever heard of in my life. BM for the good of bums. you guys are a great front for "american black metal"
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[Feb 17,2005 11:19pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Sitting at home stewing over how bad and not-KVLT BM is the only way to be tr00
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[Feb 17,2005 11:24pm - Abbath ""]
ahhhhh duh! and listening to borknager is tottally awesome, numbers bitches numbers
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[Feb 17,2005 11:32pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
If people were as evil as they claim wouldn't they have already slaughtered the posers and bathed in their blood?
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[Feb 17,2005 11:33pm - Abbath ""]
NUMBERS BOB NUMBERS
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[Feb 17,2005 11:35pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
I'm working on graph theory in my math class and whenever the professor starts talking about real world applications of it I start thinking "NUMBERS ARE THE ESSENCE OF ALL THINGS!" and I play the entire song on my desk with a pen
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[Feb 17,2005 11:37pm - Abbath ""]
awesome.
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[Feb 17,2005 11:39pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Somehow I'm the best student in the class despite being a total retard when it comes to calculus and algebra. I credit my success to Borknagar teaching me of the spatial relations of the astral spheres and how numbers reflect the cosmos around us.
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[Feb 18,2005 12:23am - -Baren-  ""]
Demogorgon the show is not a fucking benefit show. You find us another place to play, that is their fucking policy, and since the Helvet shut down, and other places are booked, and if your so fucking black metal then find us a place to play and we'll play there. There are no rules to fucking black metal their is no code to black metal.

You might as well call yourself a fucking christian if you think there is a certain lifestyle that someone has to live to be in black metal. Do you have to worship Satan to be in black metal? Do you have to burn a fucking church down to be black metal? You have to suck Varg's dick to be black metal? Do you have to go to a fucking cemetery and sacrifice some cats to the pagan gods to be black metal? Who gives a fuck what they do with the fucking food! The only thing that matters is its a fucking place to put on shows...

-Baren-
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[Feb 18,2005 12:42am - Demogorgon  ""]
whatever helps you sleep at night. keep telling yourself that its just a place to play. rent some fuckig PA equipment and set up in a god damn field if your so desperate to put on your little show.
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[Feb 18,2005 12:43am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Watch out guys I heard Demogorgon is so evil that he pk'ed Joe Christianni in Everquest for being such an untr00 poser
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[Feb 18,2005 12:52am - Demogorgon  ""]
i'm not tr00 at all. i'm fucking american too. which means, you can't be BM. how the fuck am i going to be pissed at christianity for destroying scando culture in wegie and sweedish heritage. get a fucking clue.
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[Feb 18,2005 1:04am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
BM didn't arise out of american blues influenced music, Sarcofago, Bestial Warlust, Impiety never existed, neither did Venom, blah blah blah you have no concept of music history and base your view of BM on whatever you think sounds coolest and grimmest. If you can't be your narrow conception of BM why listen to it? Oh that's right because you enjoy the music, like everyone you disagree with in this thread to show your adherence to the BM "lifestyle"
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[Feb 18,2005 1:09am - Demogorgon  ""]
you fucks are hopeless.
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[Feb 18,2005 1:10am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Demogorgon said:you fucks are hopeless.


I know it's only rock and roll but I like it.
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[Feb 18,2005 2:08am - Demogorgon  ""]
hmmm... and we wonder why the rest of the world looks at us as a joke...
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[Feb 18,2005 2:39am - coldnorthernvengeance ""]
Please enlighten us as to how to go about doing things the correct way oh master Demogorgon.
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[Feb 18,2005 2:42am - coldnorthernvengeance ""]
I'm not Scandinavian either...I'm English and like to split people's faces open.
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[Feb 18,2005 3:01am - Demogorgon  ""]
ahhh, i bet you go about spliting quite the vast number of faces open.
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[Feb 18,2005 3:10am - Demogorgon  ""]
its a shame your such a faggot because you don't make bad music.
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[Feb 18,2005 8:24am - Kinslayer  ""]
Demogorgon, I told you to can it. THERE IS NO POINT ARGUING THIS SHIT ON THIS PARTICULAR BOARD. It's PC... You and I have talked outside of this board, I felt like we saw eye to eye and believe you me, CNV, if they don't mind my speaking on their behalf, share the same ideals that I do but the fact of the matter is that this board it not the place for such discussions. LET IT GO...please..

and to my comrades in CNV...what is the deal with this weekend?

MIKE - are you going up there for practice this weekend? If so we should work out a ride situation...see my PM on the Helvete board...
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[Feb 18,2005 10:55am - anonymous  ""]
Demogorgon said:you fucks are hopeless.


Isn't being hopeless the essence of being Black Metal? Nobody can save us, not god, satan, or you. So kvlt of us.

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[Feb 18,2005 10:56am - Joe/NotCommon ""]
anyone who takes themselves too seriously is gay, and being gay is against being black metal, so you failed.
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[Feb 18,2005 10:58am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Essence of Black Metal the new cologne from Calvin Klein combines the woody earthy tones of a forest at night with the frosty moonlit snow scent of ice, comes in a black leather bottle covered in rusty spikes
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[Feb 18,2005 11:00am - Christraper ""]
Eau De Metal Negro
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[Feb 18,2005 11:07am - dneirflrigruoydeliani ""]
i think this is fucking funny shit, i told you this wouldnt go over in Vermont. I have a hard enough time listening to BM and nto laughing my ass off. Oh well there are plent of Posi-Core shows to go to with My Revenge in Vermont hahah
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[Feb 18,2005 2:30pm - ninkaszi  ""]
andrew, yeah i am going up there on saturday. what time? i don't plan on staying after we are done practicing. the earlier the better because i have some stuff to take care of.
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[Feb 18,2005 2:39pm - Josh_Martin ""]
coldnorthernvengeance said:Even the guy that runs Nasty Habits managed to put his two cents in.


That kid is a total faggot.
A couple years ago I asked him to add an Adolf Satan gig to their concert report. He told me he couldn't say the word "adolf" on the air. I told him I also have a broadcasting license and I know that's total bullshit. I also mentioned how when I was in Anal Cunt they had no problem at all plugging our shows. He changed his story, saying he just didn't want to say "adolf" on the air. I said we have nothing to do with nazis and we're not even a politcal band. I asked if he would just mention the other bands on the show. He got all flustered and hung up on me.

I hope that kid trips and falls into an oven.




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[Feb 18,2005 2:39pm - Abbath ""]
Demogorgon said:i'm not tr00 at all. i'm fucking american too. which means, you can't be BM. how the fuck am i going to be pissed at christianity for destroying scando culture in wegie and sweedish heritage. get a fucking clue.



hahahahah oh man, to me it seems that the only kvlt bmetalers that are so obsessed with being elite are in fact americans. i've talked to bmetalers all over the world and none of them are assholes, except for you and a bunch of other fakes
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[Feb 18,2005 5:04pm - Demogorgon  ""]
you are so fucking ignorant. its really quite funny. ever consider the fact that hmmm.... the true elitests won't talk to your dumb ass because your american? go read lords of chaos again and tell yourself you know black metal.
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[Feb 18,2005 5:08pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
How elite can you be while sitting behind a computer wasting all your time typing? If you are elite as you say you are where are all of the victims of your hate? How many people have you killed? How many churches have you burned? You have done nothing because you are not elite, you are weak, and elitism is your crutch.
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[Feb 18,2005 5:20pm - Demogorgon  ""]
i'm not referring to myself. its obvious americans can't be BM much less BM elitests. that was my original point.
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[Feb 18,2005 7:40pm - CNV nli  ""]
Demogorgon said:its a shame your such a faggot because you don't make bad music.



Call me that to my face and we shall see who's the faggot. This guy's cult is so elite that he's the only member. I could care less what the European bands think of my band. I know for a fact that a lot of people over in Europe enjoy our stuff but I guess it really does not matter. I never started CNV to try and impress the European bands.
Demogorgon is on the rag again. Go sop up your cunt and do something productive instead of pissing and moaning on a message board.
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[Feb 18,2005 8:00pm - Boots ""]
cnv- i'm listening to your mp3 right now. good stuff man. too bad i didn't get to see you guys play around here.
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[Feb 18,2005 10:45pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli  ""]
Demogorgon said:i'm not referring to myself. its obvious americans can't be BM much less BM elitests. that was my original point.


Then follow you own logic and stop talking about shit you don't understand.
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[Nov 27,2011 12:44am - euronygrishnachthammer  ""]
what a bunch of black metal faggotry
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[Nov 27,2011 1:38am - arilliusbm ""]
hahaha, is this the show that was in brattleboro?
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[Nov 27,2011 1:39am - arilliusbm ""]
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[Nov 27,2011 5:56am - AndrewBastard NLI  ""]
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