Horn Of Valere show in Philly this saturday is cancelled because of a bunch of whiney cowards that call themselves the ADL[views:8753][posts:43]______________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 10:57am - Christraper ""] Its true. :pukeface: |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 10:59am - KillerKadoogan ""] for fuck's sake |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 11:01am - Christraper ""] no shit. gaysauce. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 11:02am - paganmegan ""] why are people running around cancelling shows at whim? It makes me sick |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 11:26am - Christraper ""] Its because of people like The Anti Justice League and the down syndrome they spread. |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 12:06pm - KillerKadoogan ""] [img] plus [img] equals [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 12:40pm - Christraper ""] Is he wearing an Arby's hat? |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 12:47pm - Boots wtf ""] yum. i love retarded nose hairs in my burgers |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 1:14pm - Christraper ""] Its roast beef OK?!?!? Get it right! |
| ______________________________ [Apr 25,2005 2:04pm - CNV ""] Damn... I thought the club put the show back on ? They cancelled it twice? That's fucked up. |
| _______________________________ [Apr 25,2005 2:21pm - denis ""] someone should spit some detail on this |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 2:30pm - Kinslayer ""] The A.D.L. & A.R.A. Declare War on Black Metal April 30th was approaching. The date of one of the best underground black metal shows ever scheduled on the east coast. Inquisition, Bloodstorm, Horn of Valere, Demon Sword, & Incursus. Plane tickets were bought for the bands, venue was secured, and hotel reservations made for the music fans flying in from all around the country. This would be a night to remember. Unbeknownst to the concert-goers, a certain special interest group was slithering beneath the surface in an attempt to foil this landmark event. 3-4 weeks prior to the concert, a decadent anarchist group known as the A.R.A. (anti-racist action) had contacted the venue owner and attempted to mislead him with false tales of “racism” and “bigotry” on behalf of the bands involved. Immediately after the A.R.A. spewed these falsehoods, the show was announced canceled. The lies told by the A.R.A. had intimidated the club owner enough that he was not prepared to take any chances, and did not want to bare the liability. This cancellation was seen as absolutely ludicrous by members of the metal community, as it is common knowledge that this was NOT going to be a National Socialist Black Metal show. None of the bands involved are N.S.B.M., and there was to be nothing political in nature about this show whatsoever. In response to this unprecedented display of idiocy, the metal community pulled together, and informed the venue owner of the true nature of the bands. Thus, at this point, the show was reinstated, and would go on as scheduled. (I must backtrack for a moment here, and say that the only connection this show had with pro-White ideals, is that someone listed it on the Aryan Nations message board. This is something than anyone is capable of doing, and was not done by any of the promoters or bands. It is also something that could easily be done by a group such as the A.D.L. or A.R.A. in order to “justify” this type of harassment.) The A.R.A., obviously wallowing in the stench of defeat, were not content to let these artists continue with their planned event, and took it upon themselves to bring in the granddaddy of all degenerate, low-life, civil rights violators, the notorious A.D.L. (Anti-Defamation League). Unconverted Image For those of you unfamiliar with the A.D.L., they have made quite a reputation for themselves at the expense of our freedom. The motto across the top of their website is: “To stop the defamation of the Jewish people...to secure justice and fair treatment for all.” Anyone even remotely familiar with their actions will tell you that they are quite simply a pro-Jewish special interest group that is hell-bent on the destruction of all cultures and values that do not coincide with Jewish doctrines. For example, they are up in arms at the thought of Christmas in public schools, yet demand that Hanukah be acknowledged. They stand in opposition to any pro-white organizations, yet they themselves are a pro-Jewish organization. According to them, it is okay for Jews to look after one another, but any other ethnicity that does so is deemed “racist.” They have become so focused on their agenda of Jewish supremacy, that they have earned themselves the unofficial nickname J.D.L. (Jewish Defense League). The A.D.L. has accumulated a lot of muscle in this country due to continually dangling Holocaust theories over the heads of the white public. Anyone who dares to question their self-indulgent methods is accused of “anti-Semitism.” And in the eyes of the public, “anti-Semitics” and “racists” have become even more feared than child molesters and murderers. So when the venue owner was contacted by the A.D.L., and the future of his business and livelihood was put into question, he canceled the show as most club owners would. What transpired between the club owner and the A.D.L. is only known by those 2 parties, but we can only imagine, given the reputation of the A.D.L., A.R.A., and their associates. The A.R.A. alone has a notorious reputation for threatening business owners with boycotts and vandalism. So who knows what a group such as the A.D.L., that tries to assume Police-like authority, would brandish before a small business owners eyes. Kinslayer, from one of the scheduled bands, Horn of Valere, had this to say about the cancellation: “I think it's completely absurd that the show was shut down ecpecially considering the fact that no actual NS bands were playing. Hell, one of the bands is fucking COLUMBIAN! What kind of 'white power' show would book a Columbian band to headline?... If you read up on the matter you'd see that both the club owner and the ARA took the time to look a little deeper into the bands on the bill in hopes of pulling up little tidbits of info that will credit their 'white power' claims. For example: my band, Horn of Valere once played a show with Grom, a known NSBM band, so that in turn makes us and all the other bands that played that show National Socialist?... Never mind the $1000+ spent on air fare for the bands or the 100+ people planning on attending and supporting these live bands; they don't matter. The rights of the Jewish citizens to not feel threatened is more important. This is no longer a moral issue; it's a legal one and we are on the losing end. This shit is only going to continue and get worse unless we step up and make our voices heard.” Unconverted Image This is a scenario that is becoming all too common in America. This blatant abomination of Constitutional rights was once only bestowed on the more right-wing RAC/Oi!/Punk bands. But now these Communistic tactics are beginning to rear their ugly heads in our metal scene. Not only are the A.D.L./A.R.A. showing obnoxious hostility towards other interests and cultures, but they are stomping on the fundamentals of which this nation was founded. Freedom of _expression is an issue that was so significant to our founding fathers, that it was covered in the FIRST Amendment. Not the 5th, not the 13th, the FIRST. And if these elitist Jewish groups have such a problem with our Constitution and way of life, I would suggest that they take their opinions elsewhere. Maybe to a country like Israel where this type of behavior is encouraged. Hopefully this act of terrorist-like intimidation will serve to “awaken” the non-political metal fans in our scene. The time has come to take a stand for our beliefs. Even if you are passive and don’t want to get involved, we have reached a Y in the road, and have to make a choice. We cannot sit idly by, or we will be herded along with the masses onto the path of least resistance. To quote the words of Historian Howard Zinn, “You can’t stand still on a moving train.” Despite the financial losses of the promoters, fans, bands, and even the venue owner, the most unfortunate victim of this heinous violation is the future of our way of life. Little by little, blow by blow, step by step, these so-called “civil rights” organizations are taking away just that, OUR civil rights. As mentioned earlier, this nation was established as a haven for certain freedoms. One of them also being political freedom. Even if this was a pro-white or “Nazi” show, is that not one of the freedoms that we as American citizens are entitled? Are we not allowed to peacefully express our political opinions without fear of persecution? I would like to ask our readers to think about these questions, and about how they relate to their everyday lives, in and out of black metal. I would also ask that you do not take these freedoms, and also the availability of black metal, for granted. We may soon see the day when our art forms our no longer allowed. As these malicious groups sink their teeth deeper into our society, that day is grower ever nearer. |
| _______________________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 2:42pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] The Thought Police are watching!!! Kinslayer, they have you on they're page. http://onepeoplesproject.com/index.php?opt...n=content&task=view&id=696&Itemid=2 |
| _______________________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 2:43pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] Anyone ever read the book 1984? It's what this country is turning into. |
| _______________________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 2:53pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] I think that these organizations attempts to silence black metal are just going to back fire in their faces. All they are doing is creating more enemies for themselves. They just poured gas on a fire... |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 3:08pm - Christraper ""] Agreed. Especially after this bullshit. It wouldve been one thing if it actually was an NS show but this is absurd. And that shit with them posting about Horn is fucked up. Im going to be talking to a lawyer this week. I want to see what he has to say about this. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 3:11pm - Kinslayer ""] Wow, I'm honored... There isn't really much sense to taking legal action.. As my buddy Kurt pointed out: 'There are two problems with taking legal action against the ARA/ADL in this situation. Firstly, and most obviously, is that the ADL probably has the finest lawyers in the country on their side (for, again, obvious reasons). Secondly, you would have to attain messages that were sent from said organizations to the owner of the venue. It is NOT slander/libel if the organizations said anything to the effect of "In our opinion...". Moreover, if this did go to court, all they would have to ask either the bands involved or the promoter is if they have ANY attachment to ANYTHING NS/WP/et cetera. And since FPR does in fact distribute said music, they would have to answer yes. It's a bullshit situation, and something must be done about it, but pursuing it legally would only cost FPR more money than they've already lost without any benefit to this situation or future ones.' |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 3:13pm - Christraper ""] But thats like saying we can't play a show because my grandfather was a member of the SS |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 3:41pm - ArmageddAnne ""] I was flying for that show, plane tickets bought 2 weeks ago. Oh well, I'm still going to Philly and hang out and go to 2 punk shows instead. Gee. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 3:43pm - Christraper ""] Fucking FUCK!!!!!!!!! I was so looking forward to playing this show!!! |
| _______________________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 3:46pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] Someone should talk to the Outlaws (biker gang) in PA about hosting the show. They have tons of private property and would spit in the faces of ARA fascist faggots... |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 3:46pm - swamplorddvm ""] Fucking stupid. You know a good way to fight "facism" is to show "them"(or those who they accused of being facist) that non-facist people can be nice, good people and no asswipes. Canceling good shows will not help. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 4:08pm - Christraper ""] Exactly! Im not racist but people like this make me want to shave my head and start seig heiling everywhere i go. |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 4:10pm - swamplorddvm ""] Christraper said:Exactly! Im not racist but people like this make me want to shave my head and start seig heiling everywhere i go. HAhaha they just make me want to go to this show even more. (For some weird reason.) oh wait, it's cancelled. I hate crackers with white guilt. |
| _______________________________ [Apr 25,2005 4:24pm - denis ""] wow, thats the worst bullshit ive ever heard. metal will overcome! |
| ______________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 4:26pm - swamplorddvm ""] Always does. \m/ |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 4:42pm - Christraper ""] coldnorthernvengeance said:Someone should talk to the Outlaws (biker gang) in PA about hosting the show. They have tons of private property and would spit in the faces of ARA fascist faggots... You wouldnt by any chance know how to get in contact with them would you? |
| _______________________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 4:52pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] I'll see if I can get the contact. |
| ______________________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 4:58pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] "An intellectual is someone whose mind watches itself." -Albert Camus "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." -Noam Chomsky |
| _______________________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 5:10pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] Alright Christraper... I've contacted someone that may be of assistance. I'll do anything I can to help out with this. Don't let those fucking cocksuckers beat us... |
| ___________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 10:04pm - arillius ""] I know some people in Philly... I'll see if their college can hook up the show.. or maybe somewhere around the Philly area, like Camden New Jersey.. |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 25,2005 10:18pm - the_reverend ""] you should go to the ADL (if their name means anything) and say that you were defamed... |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 26,2005 9:08am - Christraper ""] I wouldve thought theyd have better things to worry about |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 26,2005 11:05am - destroyyoualot ""] Wow, this is fucking bullshit... You know, I have no problem with the practice of rubbing people's noses in their bullshit - if you have a problem with a person or band's beliefs, confront them about it, fine. But to get something shut down and deny somebody the rights to express those beliefs is 100% pure fascism, no matter what name you have on your letterhead. Even contacting a promoter and making them aware of a band's politics - if it's part of their show, and not just a personal belief - makes some sense, some promoters might not want to expose themselves to that kinda shit, or take part in it. But to just get something shut down because you don't like it, fuck that noise. Anybody else hear jackboots? And, for fuck's sake - at least do some research, get your shit right. Its not like there aren't actual NS/Nazi bands to harass, if you're gonna be doing that anyway. I mean, it's Pennsylvania, for fuck's sake, it's like RAC heaven out there. Morons. |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 26,2005 11:24am - Kinslayer ""] Anyone that has info regarding a LEGITIMATE possible place for thie show to take place email: tomasfpr@hotmail.com Don't waste his time with "try this place, try that place..." put some effort it and if it looks like a go...email them |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 26,2005 12:02pm - projectilevomit ""] wow and a band that was columbia was gonna play shit man people wound up way to tight these days |
| _______________________________________ [Apr 28,2005 11:11am - ArmageddAnne ""] coldnorthernvengeance said:Anyone ever read the book 1984? It's what this country is turning into. I've been thinking about that a few times already... |
| ___________________________________________ [Apr 28,2005 11:24am - BestialOnslaught ""] Didn't see this before. The ADL is NOT the same as the JDL, as the article states. The JDL is/was basically a terrorist group with similar aims to the ADL, but operating on more sketchy (and sometimes blatantly illegal) grounds. The ADL is just obnoxious, but legally legitimate nonetheless. |
| ___________________________________________________ [Apr 28,2005 2:08pm - Zionist Destruction Unit ""] The ADL is a SYMPTOM, organized Jewry is the DISEASE. |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 28,2005 3:25pm - destroyyoualot ""] Zionist Destruction Unit said:The ADL is a SYMPTOM, organized Jewry is the DISEASE. I'm GLAD they haven't broken into your HOME, and stolen your CAPS LOCK KEY, yet. |
| __________________________________________________ [May 3,2005 1:56pm - Zionist Destruction Unit ""] Wow. That was an intelligent response from the Peanut Gallery. |
| _________________________________________ [May 3,2005 2:30pm - BestialOnslaught ""] ... says the guy talking about "organized Jewry"... ha! |
| _______________________________ [Oct 7,2014 4:49pm - Orsus ""] ORSUS is a racist band |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 7,2014 7:31pm - LOL detector ""] hi, orsus guy |