why is it suddenly cool for hipsters to listen to esoteric metal?[views:7302][posts:59]_________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 1:15am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] someone fill me in on this. wherever I go across the web i hear of the kids that go to Plan-It X shows or Le Tigre shows jocking Emperor and shizzle. Why is it "cool" and "hip" to like a select handful of metal bands that are either esoteric, or gaudily dark? |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 1:17am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] I've seen like 10 myspace profiles that go something like "Music: The Clash, White Stripes, Sun0))), Deicide, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Menxgorisntu, Ben Folds Five..." ?!?!? |
| _________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 1:26am - W3nli ""] lame ! |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 1:28am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] the worst part is I don't know half the bands. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 14,2005 1:33am - blue ""] sunn0))) is like the hipster hipster's favorite band. |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 1:36am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] what the fuck do they sound like??? I just know it's the name of an amp company. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 1:41am - W3nli ""] SUNN0))) |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 4:45am - BestialOnslaught ""] EMPEROR wasn't exactly an obscure band. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 4:59am - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Chances are the band had a review on pitchforkmedia.com, I know SUNN0))), Emperor,High on Fire, and Mastodon did. I also know that hipster kids ride pitchfork's jock like there's no tomorrow which is why I'm very shocked that I've yet to hear any of those bands on WFNX, specifically Alter-Ego when I've been trapped in a car with hipsters. Ulver also appears to be quite popular, Hipsters get a bone from Ulver because the old stuff is ironic dumb metal while the ambient stuff makes them appear intelligent at the same time. I forgot to mention that nearly all of the reviews of metal on that and similar non-metal sites love to mention "this isn't the dumb metal the burnouts who beat you up used to listen to in highschool while you were in the drama club listening to The Smiths. This stuff is complex and intelligent mathmetal with shifting time signatures and chaotic cacophony" |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 8:20am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] It's not that emperor is obscure, it's that why are Hipster kids listening to them? also I don't even know half the bands they are jocking...or their names are Swedish and beats me as to pronounciation/spelling. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 8:57am - GoatCatalyst ""] i endorse the wholesale slaughter of all hipsters |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 9:00am - the_reverend ""] Le tigre either... |
| ________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 9:01am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] better watch out Jonah might come in here and start taking names. he'll find out where you live and leave nasty messages for you if you keep this up. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 9:43am - dreadkill nli ""] BobNOMAAMRooney said:Chances are the band had a review on pitchforkmedia.com, I know SUNN0))), Emperor,High on Fire, and Mastodon did. I also know that hipster kids ride pitchfork's jock like there's no tomorrow which is why I'm very shocked that I've yet to hear any of those bands on WFNX, specifically Alter-Ego when I've been trapped in a car with hipsters. Ulver also appears to be quite popular, Hipsters get a bone from Ulver because the old stuff is ironic dumb metal while the ambient stuff makes them appear intelligent at the same time. I forgot to mention that nearly all of the reviews of metal on that and similar non-metal sites love to mention "this isn't the dumb metal the burnouts who beat you up used to listen to in highschool while you were in the drama club listening to The Smiths. This stuff is complex and intelligent mathmetal with shifting time signatures and chaotic cacophony" i agree with you there. it seems like everyone and their mom just discovered ulver yesterday. i hear more people talking about them these days than almost any other band. |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 9:48am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] there's no mp3s of Sunn I can find. and I am pretty sure that's an amp company. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 9:48am - joe/notcommon ""] Sunno))) rules baby! I am the hippest hipster. |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 9:49am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] nevermind, found 1. |
| ________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 9:50am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:there's no mp3s of Sunn I can find. and I am pretty sure that's an amp company. it is an amp company, and their music is slow droned out tunes. i like it, it's a side project with members of Thrones and Goatsnake ! |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 9:50am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said:better watch out Jonah might come in here and start taking names. he'll find out where you live and leave nasty messages for you if you keep this up. the best was when I complimented his girlfriend's art (she is a BRILLIANT artist) and he said "Didn't I tell you to go fuck yourself on the RttP board earlier?" |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 9:51am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said:it is an amp company, and their music is slow droned out tunes. i like it, it's a side project with members of Thrones and Goatsnake ! dude I listened to them and Khanate...all it is is guys with detuned basses letting them ring out. This is what kids are jocking??? |
| ________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 9:54am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] i dont know about jocking but it's actually two gtrs and a bass....but yeah pretty much. i guess i'm just a hipster cause i like SUNN0))), then again i like Tribe of Neurot too. and as far as Jonah telling someone to go fuck himself, would it take an hour for him to comb his hair and then tell you to fuck yourself. |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 9:59am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said:i dont know about jocking but it's actually two gtrs and a bass....but yeah pretty much. i guess i'm just a hipster cause i like SUNN0))), then again i like Tribe of Neurot too. it's not that I don't like it -- and I like Tribes of Neurot from what I've heard (love Neurosis) -- it's that I can't understand why this is "hip" to listen to. when I used to listen to noise shit people weren't into it that were more in the mainstream, it was more a subculture. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 10:00am - joe/notcommon ""] It should become hip for those idiots to like Kevorkian's Angels |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 10:04am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:it's not that I don't like it -- and I like Tribes of Neurot from what I've heard (love Neurosis) -- it's that I can't understand why this is "hip" to listen to. when I used to listen to noise shit people weren't into it that were more in the mainstream, it was more a subculture. i dont understand how it can be considered hip either, i mean i love Sleep but one my friends tried putting on dopesmoker as were starting a 6hour car trip. not the best traveling music after about 15mins into the first song i had to change it and this is music i love. so i dont understand or see how it could be considered cool or hip, it's just music |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 10:04am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] joe/notcommon said:It should become hip for those idiots to like Kevorkian's Angels 3 - 6 months |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 10:15am - __THeMoor__ ""] dreadkill nli said:BobNOMAAMRooney said:Chances are the band had a review on pitchforkmedia.com, I know SUNN0))), Emperor,High on Fire, and Mastodon did. I also know that hipster kids ride pitchfork's jock like there's no tomorrow which is why I'm very shocked that I've yet to hear any of those bands on WFNX, specifically Alter-Ego when I've been trapped in a car with hipsters. Ulver also appears to be quite popular, Hipsters get a bone from Ulver because the old stuff is ironic dumb metal while the ambient stuff makes them appear intelligent at the same time. I forgot to mention that nearly all of the reviews of metal on that and similar non-metal sites love to mention "this isn't the dumb metal the burnouts who beat you up used to listen to in highschool while you were in the drama club listening to The Smiths. This stuff is complex and intelligent mathmetal with shifting time signatures and chaotic cacophony" i agree with you there. it seems like everyone and their mom just discovered ulver yesterday. i hear more people talking about them these days than almost any other band. well i did just discover them....but i ain't no freaking hipster. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 10:21am - dreadkill nli ""] you certainly don't strike me as the hipster type and i'd never label you as such. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 11:09am - dan. ""] esoteric? GOOD WORD! 4 syllables...i am impressed!!! |
| __________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 11:12am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] dan. said:esoteric? GOOD WORD! 4 syllables...i am impressed!!! is there some legitimate reason you don't register your username? is it too confusing? |
| ________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 11:15am - dan. ""] i am a diplomat and i would have to clear it with the albanian government. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 11:16am - RustedAngel ""] rhapsody is another band it's now cool to like if you're a hipster. |
| __________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 11:17am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] so are: Man O War Blind Guardian Dragonforce |
| ________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 11:17am - dan. ""] and let me be the first to say my tosk vlach is terrible! plus, its disrespectful to say 'wicked' to the leader of the peoples assembly. |
| __________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 11:18am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] dan. said:and let me be the first to say my tosk vlach is terrible! plus, its disrespectful to say 'wicked' to the leader of the peoples assembly. Albania? Like that place in upstate new york? |
| ________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 11:20am - dan. ""] no, you are thinking of anal-bania, the european gay sex club |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 2:28pm - BestialOnslaught ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:It's not that emperor is obscure, it's that why are Hipster kids listening to them? Probably the same reasons you pretend to be involved in Metal. |
| _______________________________ [Jun 14,2005 2:29pm - dan. ""] ha |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 2:39pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] BestialOnslaught said:the_taste_of_cigarettes said:It's not that emperor is obscure, it's that why are Hipster kids listening to them? Probably the same reasons you pretend to be involved in Metal. I do? |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 3:21pm - DeOdiumMortis ""] All I know is everyone keeps saying "jock" like it's a verb. I think that's where your problem is starting. I don't know what the fuck it's supposed to mean, which means it's a new "hip" word usage. Whoever mentioned people like shit because they think it's "ironic" has a good idea of what it's all about. Guess you have to fake it to be fake. It all makes me sick. Wicked boss, dude guy. |
| ____________________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 3:30pm - Spaldino on a fucking mac... lame ""] SUNN0))) is fucking terrible. so shitty. and its not wrong to like metal and other random shit. the only thing wrong aabout liking anything, from a musical point of view... is emo/chick punk/screamo/atreyu. that shit is not right and throws the world off balance... |
| _________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 4:36pm - danny_p ""] man talking about stuff is so not cool...and stuff...mannn |
| ________________________________________________ [Jun 14,2005 11:25pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] BestialOnslaught said:EMPEROR wasn't exactly an obscure band. I agree they are not obscure as far as a fan base but they are definately esoteric... |
| __________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 2:28am - gorgish ""] so when are you guys going to start talking trash on me? |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 9:44am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] gorgish said:so when are you guys going to start talking trash on me? you don't count. you were black/death/tech metal then went the hipster route, which is odd and uncommon, but not the topic here. |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 9:49am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] besides, it's not about talking trash. it's about why was metal about 4 years ago not even a topic of discussion to people that were interested in things like Vice, The Noise, The Phoenix, Honeypump, Makeoutclub, etc etc and now it's this thing that seeps through? It's like I don't even know these bands, they aren't like Iron Maiden or Slayer which you can hear about most anytime, they are bands that when someone drops the name you go "Who the fuck is that?" |
| __________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 9:52am - gorgish ""] glad my scene points stand for something! that's what unity is all about! |
| _________________________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 9:56am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Up Teh Punx |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 10:13am - dsfdfsd ""] this is the most pathetic thread ever. who cares what other people like dude. |
| __________________________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 10:22am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Just to clear up confusion it's not "How dare these hipsters..." or "condemn hipsters..." or "name hipsters..." it's a real question of "why" |
| _______________________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 10:26am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] I'm starting to get into Ted Leo and today I was contemplating a pair of tight pants. But seriously, Ted Leo is awesome. |
| __________________________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 10:38am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:I'm starting to get into Ted Leo and today I was contemplating a pair of tight pants. But seriously, Ted Leo is awesome. yeah my friend Alex got me into them. I'm glad music is opening up more, it's so odd how it does. All power to it I guess. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 10:46am - SacreligionNLI ""] i think the strangest place to ever be in the history of existence would be a SunnO)))) show at AS220 in providence... the providence-hipster deadite fans were weird enough |
| __________________________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 10:49am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] I'm not sure what bothers me more: People who do things just to be popular...I mean they look at what is really going to get them freinds, fans, support and just do it...regardless of ethics... Or the fact that I consider myself open minded but my prejudice and bigotry against those kinds of people reveals a subtext that goes against my views on my own identity, i.e. Bigotry is not part of open-mindedness. Which isn't to say you can't be open minded and still not like certain things, but I wouid like to strive to be a better person on that. It's a tough call. My best bet is to abandon any further contribution to this particular thread. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 10:53am - SacreligionNLI ""] you can be open-minded and hate hipsters...cuz they suck there's nothing close-minded about disliking something that blatantly sucks |
| ________________________________ [Jun 15,2005 10:54am - dan. ""] i think your best bet would be either jerking off in the mirror or investing in a diary. either way, please dont involve us. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 6,2011 10:54am - arilliusbm ""] bump |
| ______________________________ [Dec 6,2011 12:57pm - Yeti ""] esotericism = hipsterism |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 6,2011 2:07pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] BobNOMAAMRooney said:Chances are the band had a review on pitchforkmedia.com, I know SUNN0))), Emperor,High on Fire, and Mastodon did. I also know that hipster kids ride pitchfork's jock like there's no tomorrow which is why I'm very shocked that I've yet to hear any of those bands on WFNX, specifically Alter-Ego when I've been trapped in a car with hipsters. Ulver also appears to be quite popular, Hipsters get a bone from Ulver because the old stuff is ironic dumb metal while the ambient stuff makes them appear intelligent at the same time. I forgot to mention that nearly all of the reviews of metal on that and similar non-metal sites love to mention "this isn't the dumb metal the burnouts who beat you up used to listen to in highschool while you were in the drama club listening to The Smiths. This stuff is complex and intelligent mathmetal with shifting time signatures and chaotic cacophony" I'm fucking Nostradamus predicting the next decade of metal in this thread. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 6,2011 2:18pm - Mark_R ""] It's hard to deny that that was pretty damn accurate. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 6,2011 2:25pm - saxlbeckett ""] I blame Pantera for the burnout beatup phenomena |