the phenom that is Pillorys drummer[views:10974][posts:72]_______________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 10:32am - Jesus_Slaves ""] i didnt think it was humanly possible to move that fast. i've never seen a person move like that. not to mention the rest of the band kept up with him. last night was a sick show. too bad Despised Icon didnt show, but the people who went and stayed got a damn good show. thanks to everyone who checked us out. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 10:34am - brian_dc ""] Yes, Derek (sorry, meant Darren) is good...and I love what he's done with Burn in Silence's stuff..love it. See Pillory and BiS locally in front of small crowds while you can. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 11:08am - Anthony nli ""] brian_dc said:Yes, Derek is good...and I love what he's done with Burn in Silence's stuff..love it. See Pillory and BiS locally in front of small crowds while you can. Darren, not Derek |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 11:43am - brian_dc ""] shit, and I knew that...it's my day off! |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 4:00pm - BornSoVile ""] The drummer for GORATORY is much much better. |
| _______________________________ [Jun 30,2005 4:04pm - denis ""] yeah hes incredible. i came a little late, but i was also really impressed with the drummer from tyag, it was my first time seeing them with the new lineup. excellent additions. great show all around. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 4:05pm - KeithMutiny ""] BornSoVile said:The drummer for GORATORY is much much better. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 4:39pm - powerkok ""] Ive never seen Pillory but Ive dld their mp3s and ya that guy is a fucking madman. Nick/LAZ is another drummer I would consider 'phenom' |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 4:43pm - largefreakatzero ""] powerkok said:Nick/LAZ is another drummer I would consider 'phenom' Yeah, but don't let him know that -- he's already getting a big head and complaining about his goddamn triggers, drum sound, etc. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 5:00pm - powerkok ""] they need a whole new set. period. Those things are utter ass. Which I dont understand, because they are decent drums. They just sound fuckin horrible. Im sure the 'sunlite' bass head dosent help. |
| ________________________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 6:01pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] KeithMutiny said:BornSoVile said:The drummer for GORATORY is much much better. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 8:04pm - ArrowHead nli ""] Good, great, awesome, whatever. The important part to remember is after back to back sets with 2 bands, that man's asscrack REEEEKS. By the way, our drummer (Pillory) is WAY better than the guy in Goratory or Burn in Silence. Our's sings backup vocals TOO! |
| ________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 8:05pm - Hooker ""] Anthony nli said:brian_dc said:Yes, Derek is good...and I love what he's done with Burn in Silence's stuff..love it. See Pillory and BiS locally in front of small crowds while you can. Darren, not Derek Stop posting. Forever. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 8:12pm - SUBJUGATE ""] ArrowHead nli said:Good, great, awesome, whatever. The important part to remember is after back to back sets with 2 bands, that man's asscrack REEEEKS. By the way, our drummer (Pillory) is WAY better than the guy in Goratory or Burn in Silence. Our's sings backup vocals TOO! keep your nose out of his ass after he plays then . . . . . . . . . . sorry couldn't pass that up |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 8:25pm - ArrowHead nli ""] SUBJUGATE said: keep your nose out of his ass after he plays no no no, we're talking across the ROOM smell. Not rimjob smell. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 8:28pm - SUBJUGATE ""] hahaha nice get him some baby wipes for Xmas |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 8:42pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] ArrowHead nli said:By the way, our drummer (Pillory) is WAY better than the guy in Goratory or Burn in Silence. Our's sings backup vocals TOO! That guy from virulence was better. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 8:48pm - SUBJUGATE ""] why you get over looked when so many bands have hit you up to play for them puzzles me |
| ________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 8:59pm - Hooker ""] we wanted him. but his asking price of $6,000 was a big steep. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 9:01pm - SUBJUGATE ""] hahahaha thats a bargain, i have been in a band with him since i think 97 |
| __________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 9:03pm - powerkok ""] Cuz nobody notices him, cuz Jim's always "OOOOOOH LOOOOOOK AT MEEEE OOOOOOH" hahahahahaha |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 9:05pm - mOe_RK_in jersey ""] like, omfg he totally blasts so fast LOLOLOLLLZZZ |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 9:07pm - SUBJUGATE ""] yea thats me NOT! |
| __________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 9:18pm - powerkok ""] hahaha that was the whole point jim. Jim is the cool quiet rocker. Can I call you slim jim from now on? |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 9:20pm - ArrowHead nli ""] menstrual_sweatpants_disco said: That guy from virulence was better. Is that another Darren reference, or are you talking about thier original drummer? That kid was one of my favorites of all time. I finally had to download Conflict Scenario because Chris wouldn't make me a copy. I loved virulence. Dormant Strains isn't quite as good, but Conflict is just awesome. |
| ________________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 9:22pm - ArrowHead nli ""] powerkok said:Cuz nobody notices him, Are you talking about the drummer in BOE? I can't even take my eyes off him, he's awesome. Saw him once with his side project, great rock drummer too. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 9:25pm - Anthony nli ""] Hooker said:Anthony nli said:brian_dc said:Yes, Derek is good...and I love what he's done with Burn in Silence's stuff..love it. See Pillory and BiS locally in front of small crowds while you can. Darren, not Derek Stop posting. Forever. [img] It was definitely worth the five minutes it took to do that. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 9:57pm - powerkok ""] ArrowHead nli said:powerkok said:Cuz nobody notices him, Are you talking about the drummer in BOE? I can't even take my eyes off him, he's awesome. Saw him once with his side project, great rock drummer too. does anybody read a whole thread before mumbling poop out they lips? It was me poking fun at slim jim. |
| _____________________________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 10:01pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] SUBJUGATE said:why you get over looked when so many bands have hit you up to play for them puzzles me shut up! what have you done! ArrowHead nli said:Are you talking about the drummer in BOE? I can't even take my eyes off him, he's awesome. Saw him once with his side project, great rock drummer too. Thanks homie, I appreciate it. :D ArrowHead nli said:Is that another Darren reference, or are you talking about thier original drummer? That kid was one of my favorites of all time. I finally had to download Conflict Scenario because Chris wouldn't make me a copy. I loved virulence. Dormant Strains isn't quite as good, but Conflict is just awesome. Yeah, it was a Darren reference. I wasn't even aware that they had another drummer in that band. If so, who played on which CDs? Virulence was awesome. Now that I think of it, I'm not sure which CD even came out first, A Conflict Scenario or Dormant Strains I always thought Dormant Strains was first. Considering how much I like brutal DM, people always think I'm crazy for liking Pillory and Virulence more than the new Goratory |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 11:24pm - DEATH2ALL ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said:KeithMutiny said:BornSoVile said:The drummer for GORATORY is much much better. was |
| _____________________________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 11:54pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] I did like goratory a lot more when you were in the band. Looking forward to seeing your new projects. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jun 30,2005 11:56pm - mOe_RK_in jersey ""] Ditto |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 1,2005 12:55am - BornSoVile ""] Jay's drumming had more heart and feeling, Darren is engineering measurements. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 1,2005 6:40am - SUBJUGATE ""] powerkok said:hahaha that was the whole point jim. Jim is the cool quiet rocker. Can I call you slim jim from now on? it's all good :krusty: i'm just very shy untill i get a guitar in my hands if you have to but i think i would prefer just jim , j or aj |
| __________________________________ [Jul 1,2005 8:17am - DEATH2ALL ""] Thanks guys, can't wait to get this shit going. But I wasn't talking about me. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 1,2005 9:26am - powerkok ""] SUBJUGATE said:powerkok said:hahaha that was the whole point jim. Jim is the cool quiet rocker. Can I call you slim jim from now on? it's all good :krusty: i'm just very shy untill i get a guitar in my hands if you have to but i think i would prefer just jim , j or aj Fair enough, pal. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 1,2005 9:30am - SUBJUGATE ""] cool |
| ___________________________________________________________________ [Jul 1,2005 11:39am - Pillory/Goratory/Burn in Silence Drummer ""] Jesus_Slaves said:i didnt think it was humanly possible to move that fast. i've never seen a person move like that. not to mention the rest of the band kept up with him. last night was a sick show. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 1,2005 1:04pm - mOe_rk_in Jersey ""] did you just quote a post thats just a compliment of you?? wow |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 1,2005 1:21pm - KillerKadoogan ""] ahahahaha yea he did i say we have a drum competition between me and darren. WINNER TAKES ALL! |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 1,2005 1:22pm - mOe_rk_in Jersey ""] can i be the mystery 3rd opponent? I'll bring the hand percussion blasts! |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 1,2005 1:23pm - KillerKadoogan ""] LET'S DO IT |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 2,2005 1:24am - ArrowHead nli ""] Darren didn't play on any of the virulence cd's. I forget the other drummers name, but that's him on the discs. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 2,2005 6:20am - DEATH2ALL ""] KillerKadoogan said: i say we have a drum competition between me and darren. WINNER TAKES ALL! do it. I wanna see that. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 2,2005 11:10am - KillerKadoogan ""] i'll blow darren out of the water. Don't fuck with this: [img] |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 2,2005 12:13pm - BestialOnslaught ""] "the phenom that is Pillorys drummer " I can't be the only one that thinks this is the gayest thread title EVER! |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 2,2005 2:02pm - ArrowHead nli ""] BestialOnslaught said:"the phenom that is Pillorys drummer " I can't be the only one that thinks this is the gayest thread title EVER! No, that would be my thread titled "I just gave Joe Notcommon a blowjob". Now that thread was REALLY gay. |
| ___________________________________________________ [Jul 2,2005 2:46pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] ArrowHead nli said:Darren didn't play on any of the virulence cd's. I forget the other drummers name, but that's him on the discs. WHAAAA? Woah... I got some really bad info then. And this info has been with me for years. Darren was in virulence though right? I'm looking at the metal-archives info for them. He just wasn't on any cds? |
| ________________________________ [Jul 2,2005 4:50pm - Paulll ""] Virulence was the sickest band from mass. The drumming was sicker then pillory i think |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 2,2005 5:06pm - ArrowHead nli ""] Yeah. Darren joined Virulence after Dormant Strains. Thier other drummer moved to NY or something. |
| ___________________________________________________ [Jul 2,2005 5:09pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] ahh, then my original joke still works kind of then I guess. haha. Is there anybody else in Pillory who was in Virulence? |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 2,2005 7:12pm - anonymous ""] chris was |
| __________________________________ [Jul 2,2005 7:23pm - DEATH2ALL ""] KillerKadoogan said:i'll blow darren out of the water. Don't fuck with this: Hmmm? I can set this up @ my house, if Darren is up for it.......... |
| __________________________________ [Jul 2,2005 8:55pm - cdan nli ""] darren joined after the second CD "a conflict scenario" ...played some shows and helped write new material, which was never recorded. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 3,2005 12:41pm - KillerKadoogan ""] DEATH2ALL said: Hmmm? I can set this up @ my house, if Darren is up for it.......... haha oh man that'd be sweet. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 3,2005 1:36pm - dreadkill ""] darren is ridiculously good. definitely one of the best drummers around. how many bands is he in right now? 3? that's a hardworking drummer. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 4,2005 6:31am - DEATH2ALL ""] dreadkill said:darren is ridiculously good. definitely one of the best drummers around. how many bands is he in right now? 3? that's a hardworking drummer. No doubt....... But can he handle the devasting skills of Killer? When he blasts, it's like a f16 @ top speed. He's got a seat belt on his drum throne, to keep him from falling off! Kid wears a helmet to protect him from flying shrapnel when he hits the cymbals! |
| _________________________________ [Jul 4,2005 9:03am - powerkok ""] and when the cymbals fall over from his massive fisting. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 4,2005 11:13am - Joe/NotCommon ""] ArrowHead nli said:BestialOnslaught said:"the phenom that is Pillorys drummer " I can't be the only one that thinks this is the gayest thread title EVER! No, that would be my thread titled "I just gave Joe Notcommon a blowjob". Now that thread was REALLY gay. I didn't say anything, leave me out of this! |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 4,2005 11:17am - noone cares ""] Why is everyone kissing Darren's anything overinflated ego? He likes to play but he does a lot of shit for money. His ego is too big and he hasn't even made it big, stop kissing his ass. He's a cheap egomaniac who needs an attitude adjustment. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 4,2005 11:19am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Why don't you adjust his attitude then? Oh wait, you're a faggot, thats why. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 4,2005 12:13pm - KillerKadoogan ""] i wear a seatbelt and/or helmet at all times, really. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 4,2005 12:15pm - anonymous ""] Amen, "noone cares" |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 4,2005 2:11pm - BestialOnslaught ""] I, too, don't see the point of kissing someone's ass if they're gonna go the "drummer for hire" route. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 4,2005 2:26pm - BornSoVile ""] my last post on this, since my comment ruined Darren's night on Friday, allow my to clarify more.... I miss the days of going to see Goratory pratice every night in Framingham. I miss getting shitfaced and burning up while banging my head til I turned purple and dizzy. I miss seeing Jay, behind the kit, popping vics, drinking beer, with a cigarette hanging out his mouth. I miss the feeling of hearing Pig Fucker and Cream of Fetus and George Clinton for the first time, all the while, while Jay is incorporating his style into the song. That shit was real. Darren is emmensly talented, I have never doubted that or shatted on it. It's incredibly different for me to see them write a song, with Darren writing everything on staff, on the computer around guitar tracks. TWO COMPLETLY DIFFERENT STYLES/APPROACHES to this. I'm not saying that one is better than the other nor am I criticizing styles and techniques. Darren is unreal. There are two simple facts to me about this issue Darren took Goratory to a new level. I miss the old days. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 5,2005 12:35am - ArrowHead nli ""] Food for thought: If Darren was doing what he does "for money", do you really think he'd be playing death metal? A full berklee education, Private instruction from Mangini, and a practice regimen that would give my blisters blisters, you think he couldn't pick up a gig with some top 40 band and build up a nice nest egg? Darren is in three bands, all of whom he writes for, puts a shitload of work into, and is very professional about. He's not jumping on for a ride, he's putting all his effort into each project. Yes, if he can pick up a gig here or there recording, playing a show, or programming drums for some money, he's going to do it. The kid has no job, and is 100% dedicated to pushing his playing as far as he can. If a contractor picks up an extra job on the weekend would that make him a bad contractor? How about a cop picking up a detail shift? Darren has yet to dick ANY band he's in over, and he has yet to ditch a band because something bigger and better came along. It gets pretty annoying hearing so many people bash the kid because he has the sheer audacity to be PROUD of what he can do. I think people are just having problems with the idea that someone with his skill is taking a different approach to music than they themselves would. As for BornSoVile's comments, I have never seen Jay with Goratory, but I have both discs. I like the tunes on the new album a lot better, but after seeing Jay play with Compost Pile in Natick it's pretty obvious that BOTH of them are two of the best damned drummers in New England. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 5,2005 12:40am - ArrowHead nli ""] noone cares said:Why is everyone kissing Darren's anything overinflated ego? He likes to play but he does a lot of shit for money. His ego is too big and he hasn't even made it big, stop kissing his ass. He's a cheap egomaniac who needs an attitude adjustment. Here, let me correct your grammar a bit: "Why is everyone singing Darren's praises? Sure, he likes to play, but he also enjoys being able to pay his bills and eat food once in a while. He's proud of the friends and fans he's made, and he still has so much further he can go with it. He's a broke musician that loves doing what he does, and his pride can easily be mistaken for pomposity by the petty and narrow minded" See that? If you pulled your head out of your ass you might realize that there's so many ways of seeing things, if you just take the time to try seeing them from someone elses point of view. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 5,2005 12:36pm - DEATH2ALL ""] Wow, this is a heated subject. I miss those daze too Josh! You really did turn purple!! Non stop head banging no matter what. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 5,2005 12:48pm - DEATH2ALL ""] ArrowHead nli said:Food for thought: If Darren was doing what he does "for money", do you really think he'd be playing death metal? A full berklee education, Private instruction from Mangini, and a practice regimen that would give my blisters blisters, you think he couldn't pick up a gig with some top 40 band and build up a nice nest egg? Darren is in three bands, all of whom he writes for, puts a shitload of work into, and is very professional about. He's not jumping on for a ride, he's putting all his effort into each project. Yes, if he can pick up a gig here or there recording, playing a show, or programming drums for some money, he's going to do it. The kid has no job, and is 100% dedicated to pushing his playing as far as he can. If a contractor picks up an extra job on the weekend would that make him a bad contractor? How about a cop picking up a detail shift? Darren has yet to dick ANY band he's in over, and he has yet to ditch a band because something bigger and better came along. It gets pretty annoying hearing so many people bash the kid because he has the sheer audacity to be PROUD of what he can do. I think people are just having problems with the idea that someone with his skill is taking a different approach to music than they themselves would. As for BornSoVile's comments, I have never seen Jay with Goratory, but I have both discs. I like the tunes on the new album a lot better, but after seeing Jay play with Compost Pile in Natick it's pretty obvious that BOTH of them are two of the best damned drummers in New England. I agree with you & BornSoVile.... He's amazing. 2 totally different styles. He is dedicated to extreme metal. On the other hand, He went way out of his way to insult me in the last thread, created to praise Darrens tallent. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 5,2005 5:02pm - BornSoVile ""] Yeah, Darren "threw the first punch" with that comment a few months ago, something along the lines of "Jay had alot to learn about drumming", but that was relatively squashed at the time. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 5,2005 6:17pm - ArrowHead nli ""] I don't know why Darren ever said that, but you're right. It was a pretty cocky thing to say. Knowing the amount of patience he's had with a shitty drummer like me (I'm always bugging him for tips and lessons) I really believe that it was more fueled by booze and misplaced humor than any real feelings towards Jay. I could be wrong, but I just don't see how he could be encouraging and patient with a hack drummer like me and turn around to insult a pro like Jay. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 5,2005 6:50pm - DEATH2ALL ""] I don't know if "threw the first punch", fits this scenario, but I think my point helps you get yours across. As far as why it was said...... It's the result of speach without thought. regardless, It was squashed right away. I'm neutral on the subject. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 5,2005 6:53pm - ArrowHead nli ""] DEATH2ALL said: It's the result of speach without thought. Ha, messageboards tend to bring that out in everybody. |