they killed the wrong guy![views:5513][posts:49]__________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 9:34am - litacore ""] http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/25/london.tube/index.html did he panic, or was he just stupid to run? :wiggam: |
| _______________________________ [Jul 25,2005 9:39am - sever ""] old news. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 9:40am - litacore ""] by two days I was in class all weekend |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 9:44am - the_reverend ""] no shit. I knew that the minute I heard it. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 9:44am - the_reverend ""] "it" meaning that they chased and shot someone. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 9:45am - SUBJUGATE ""] serves him right for running and not stopping when he was told to |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 9:47am - SUBJUGATE ""] and if i remember correctly he was already being watched by the police in england before he was killed |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 9:47am - the_reverend ""] what would you do if two guys in plain cloths pull their guns on you? snoopdawg tried to pull a gun on me at an ATM. I pushed passed his GF and ran too. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 9:49am - Messerschmitt ""] i'm sure when they pulled out the gun they said STOP!!! POLICE MOTHER FUCKER!!!!! he's a moron. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 9:52am - SUBJUGATE ""] the_reverend said:what would you do if two guys in plain cloths pull their guns on you? snoopdawg tried to pull a gun on me at an ATM. I pushed passed his GF and ran too. first of all if you are an INNOCENT person you have no need to run secondly if they don't say they are cops well than yea running is an option altho can you out run a bullet . ? . ? i thought not! say what you will but the fool got what he deserved sure it is sad but in these times of terroist bombing you kinda have to go with instint if they said stop police don't move and he ran well obviouly he was guilty of somthing HUH! |
| __________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 9:58am - litacore ""] wasn't he weaing a thick jacket in July? I dunno, this argument could go either way. Just be conscientious of your surroundings, that city is fucking tense with those four douchebags plus more on the loose. |
| _________________________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 9:58am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] "first of all if you are an INNOCENT person you have no need to run " that has been proven completely inaccurate throughout history. There's been plenty of times people have been fucked over big time, if not hurt irreversably, when they were innocent. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:03am - litacore ""] Richard Kimball |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:09am - SUBJUGATE ""] well you keep running then and please paint a target on your jacket we don't want em to miss |
| ____________________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:33am - the rev drifting ""] well, I guess next time someone tries to hold you up at gun point and you see a way out, you can just stand there and take it. some people would run. myself, the first time a person pointed a gun at my head froze, saw my life flash before my eyes as I slowly backed away from that situation. luckily, they just wanted me away from their car and didn't want to shoot me. in the "grand scheme" of things, this guy was probably guilty of something at some point, but we aren't going to start punishing people for original sin are we? he could have just run cause he thought they were thieves and he was scared or cause he was a drug dealer... who knows. I think the bottomline is that this was bound to happen, but if anyone out there who doesn't see tragedy in this is a pretty shitty american. granted, since this is america, you can have what ever opinion you would like. it's your right after all. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:36am - anonymous ""] damn |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:38am - Messerschmitt ""] eh... shit happens. i'm the shittiest american. duhn duhn dah dah! shit shit shit |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:41am - anonymous ""] heh |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:45am - the_reverend ""] I think tragedy is the wrong word there... I just can't think of the right word. Honestly, I don't really give a shit about the guy getting killed. I knew that he had nothing to do with terrorism the minute I heard about it, but it's no skin off my teeth that he got killed. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:46am - SUBJUGATE ""] acceptable loss |
| ___________________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:50am - Jeff Pierce/PIV ""] YOU GUYS ARE ALL FAGGOTS. WE ARE LOSING THE WAR ON ERRORISM AND PEOPLE KEEP GETTING KILLED. WHEN IS THE KILLING GONNA END? I NKOW YOU ALL THINK ITS COOL BECAUSE YOUR ALL SO INTO "DEATH" METAL BUT WISE UP AND REALIZE WE ALL HAVE TARGETS ON OUR HEADS. I MAY NOT LIKE YOU PEOPLE BUT I DO LOVE AMERICA AND OUR RIGHT TO BE FREE. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:52am - Messerschmitt ""] shut the fuck up |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:52am - litacore ""] what Voivod said: ------------------- The Chaosmongers prefer to get away When people fall down But they killed the wrong ones *move over Nostradamus* |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:53am - ATNFAC_Vokillz ""] Jeff Pierce/PIV said:LOSING THE WAR ON ERRORISM anyone else realize that thats funny? |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:53am - SUBJUGATE ""] what thte hell is errorism,, and how are we losing this war |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:54am - litacore ""] Jeff Pierce/PIV said:YOU GUYS ARE ALL FAGGOTS. WE ARE LOSING THE WAR ON ERRORISM AND PEOPLE KEEP GETTING KILLED. WHEN IS THE KILLING GONNA END? I NKOW YOU ALL THINK ITS COOL BECAUSE YOUR ALL SO INTO "DEATH" METAL BUT WISE UP AND REALIZE WE ALL HAVE TARGETS ON OUR HEADS. I MAY NOT LIKE YOU PEOPLE BUT I DO LOVE AMERICA AND OUR RIGHT TO BE FREE. [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:55am - ATNFAC_Vokillz ""] everything this dickhead says is in caps. who the hell is he? |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:57am - SUBJUGATE ""] you know why terrorist target civilians? beacause they are cowards and afraid to go up against trained military personel. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:58am - litacore ""] good point. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:59am - SUBJUGATE ""] i mean it is also to bring fear to the public but still thats the cowards way out |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 10:59am - the_reverend ""] you sound like the british in any colonial war movie. [img] |
| ___________________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 11:00am - dan_bloodblister ""] probably could have been handled better...but this is definetly bullshit: "They just kill the first person they see, that's what they did." no. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 11:01am - the_reverend ""] you know what isn't cowardly? [img] sitting a few minutes from a target and clicking a button. oh wait.. oh well, it's like a vieo game. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 11:01am - litacore ""] [img] hahahaha, Cartman's idol |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 11:02am - the_reverend ""] minutes=miles |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 11:03am - SUBJUGATE ""] crashing planes into buildings full of civilions takes guts huh |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 11:05am - Josh-Martin ""] I am so glad this faggot got shot, he was probably a faggot. Faggots should be sent out on an island and executed. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 11:08am - dan_bloodblister ""] SUBJUGATE said:crashing planes into buildings full of civilions takes guts huh honestly, yeah it kind of does. i dont think id have the balls to hijack a plane and then fly it into a building with me inside of it. just sayin |
| _________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 11:58am - retzam ""] dan_bloodblister said:SUBJUGATE said:crashing planes into buildings full of civilions takes guts huh honestly, yeah it kind of does. i dont think id have the balls to hijack a plane and then fly it into a building with me inside of it. just sayin completely agree... It is pretty ridiculous that people are just shrugging this off. "Eh, shot the wrong guy, whatever, he deserved this". Pretty ignorant. Probably will just make fun of me for calling you guys ignorant. They're not fucking superheros just cause they put on uniforms and funny little badges. Police are humans, and humans are morons. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 1:20pm - davefromthegrave ""] Another thing that takes shitloads of Courage is doing what the invisible man in the sky tells you to do, instead of thinking for yourself ever. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 25,2005 4:08pm - ArrowHead nli ""] SUBJUGATE said: first of all if you are an INNOCENT person you have no need to run If you're innocent, you're most likely not used to having cops drop guns at you. People react to situations like that in unexpected ways, especially if it's something they've never experienced or didn't expect. I used to work security for a company in New Bedford "Sheehan & associates" or something. One gig involved "patrolling" a kinda slummy neighborhood about 10 minutes away from where I lived. My drummer at the time lived there. I wasn't some powertripping toughguy, I was friendly, cool, lazy, and pretty much let everything slide. I'd go to my drummers house, drink beers, smoke a joint, and every 45 minutes go do my rounds and log as required. It was pretty mild, thus it was an unarmed assignment. Anyways, open alcohol containers weren't allowed in the common areas/road. I came across a gaggle of guys sitting out on a stoop. One was drinking a can of beer. I stopped, and just told him it wasn't allowed, and asked him if he'd just run inside and pour it into a cup, so I wouldn't get in trouble. Kid pulled out a fucking GUN on me! Pointed it right in my face and started giving me a bunch of shit, pretty much all the "who'd the bitch now!" cliches. Again, I'm not a hardass, and I'm not a toughguy. As I would have expected myself to do, I started shaking, tried hard not to pee myself, and begged the guy not to shoot me and to back off. He put the gun around, turned away from me, and I did something I WOULDN'T expect. I cracked his fucking skull open with the 8 cell mag light on my belt. Didn't think before I did it, totally reflex action. Probably the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life, besides our bassists' mom. secondly if they don't say they are cops well than yea running is an option altho can you out run a bullet . ? . ? i thought not! You've never really been around firearms, have you? Distance and motion create proportionate room for error. The further it is, and the more it moves, the harder it is to hit it. In other words, YES, I think you can outrun a bullet. Easier than you can duck it from 2 feet away, anyhow. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 28,2005 2:55pm - the_reverend ""] OK, here's the worst part: http://teotwawki23.blogspot.com/2005/07/its-okay-he-was-brown.html they tailed the dude for 30 minutes BEFORE they shot him.. that removes the whole "in the heat of the moment" argument. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 28,2005 3:00pm - swamplorddvm ""] SUBJUGATE said:i mean it is also to bring fear to the public but still thats the cowards way out Using you $3,498,698,369,365,896,496,956 to keep people down is also cowardly. So is burning churches and killing munks or giving virus infected blankets to people... :nuke: |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 28,2005 3:01pm - swamplorddvm ""] AND fire bombing cities... |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 28,2005 3:04pm - dan_bloodblister ""] i dont see how it removes the argument. they didnt shoot him until he did something suspicious. the fact that they were trailing him and he wound up at a train station gave them reason to persue him...then he did something sketchy and unfortunately got shot. the whole 'racist' edge this dipshit put on the article really makes me not give a fuck about his opinion. guess what? terrorists are brown. yeah. i mean, you know. there have been white and black and yellow terrorists. but the ones in question...they are brown. he lived in a house that was under suspicion for terrorist activity, he wound up at a train station and he was acting sketchy. those are 3 pretty big coincidences that turned out to be exactly that. unfortunate, but not racist. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 28,2005 3:07pm - the_reverend ""] it's lame that our world is coming to this on ALL sides. ps: any argument about is coat is moot. check out the weather in the uk http://www.intellicast.com/Local/IntlLocal...duct=Forecast&prodnav=none&pid=none |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 28,2005 3:10pm - dan_bloodblister ""] i just dont get what either side wants to happen. it happened it sucks its done. hopefully it wont happen again, it probably taught alot of people about using discretion. what more can be done? nothing is going to happen to the police, if the family sues they will either settle or lose. terrorists are still gonna blow shit up and police are still gonna fuck up. what more is there to say?? |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 28,2005 3:19pm - swamplorddvm ""] the_reverend said:it's lame that our world is coming to this on ALL sides. The world today is quite tame really... compared to the rest of our history. |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 16,2005 5:31pm - the_reverend ""] http://www.itn.co.uk/news/1677571.html even more evidence... he was just wearing a jean jacket... |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 16,2005 10:20pm - anonymous ""] ATNFAC_Vokillz said:everything this dickhead says is in caps. who the hell is he? HES OBVIOUSLY JOE SACHRIANNI... |