rev i think you have pics in a BTBAM ad in the next Metal Maniacs[views:4897][posts:42]______________________________ [Aug 31,2005 8:45pm - wade ""] a full page ad at that. I'm guessing they're yours since you said they've been using a lot of your stuff in various marketing materials. pretty cool review of this year's NEMF in the issue (Opeth cover, out soon) by MetalGeorge Pacheco and Kevin Stewart-Panko, too. I opted out of covering the fest as a writer this year, only supplying pics. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 8:52pm - succubus ""] yes they are his and that ad is in a million ads uncredited awesome |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 8:57pm - thedeparted ""] thats awesome, ive been trying to hold out from listening to the new album on the web. and waiting to buy it on the 6th...i hear another one of the new songs the other night when you played it rev, friggen awesome |
| ______________________________ [Aug 31,2005 8:59pm - wade ""] succubus said:yes they are his and that ad is in a million ads uncredited awesome rev, you need a friggin' unreasonably cocky and heartless agent...like that guy, uh, Terrell Owens' agent. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:01pm - succubus ""] i could easily be his agent bcz he's too nice to people that's why half the time he asks me to call people for him this ad used the photos without his permission |
| ______________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:08pm - wade ""] did they acquire them at all with his permission? or did they just dload from the site? they (labels) tend to fall into that "give 'em an inch and they take a mile" category... |
| __________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:12pm - succubus ""] i'll let him answer..but i'll say that i saw the ad in the magazine i work for and showed him and then saw it in 4 more.. |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:13pm - the_reverend ""] they acquired them with permission for use in a BTBAM sampler. I e-mailed them today to say WTF. my response was that they were sorry. the graphic designer used them with out my contacts knowledge and then I was asked "Any victory stuff I can throw your way for your troubles?" I'm trying to figure out how to say back "a check" in a polite way. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:14pm - succubus ""] i told you how to say it yer too soft be more of a prick |
| _________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:14pm - Slasher ""] wow, without permission? you need to bitch hard and make them all pay and/or link to rttp on all i run btbams message board, ill threaten to keep close it(one of our biggest forums, always active) if they dont pay up! ;p |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:16pm - DeOdiumMortis ""] Some of Victory's stuff is money, ask for that. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:18pm - succubus ""] hehehe Slasher i jsut read that to him... ok he's going to send a good email |
| ______________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:23pm - wade ""] fuckin labels are so arrogant about this shit, it's ridiculous. it gets hairy when you have a "friend" over at whatever label...THEY HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY but "small" budgets. I stopped doing favors a long time ago for bigger indies. it's not worth the aggravation. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:25pm - succubus ""] i just had a cover shot for an LA weekly and the label told them my name and to credit me and of course...the paper fucked up...i did it for the label so i'm getting paid, but it's a cover shot and not getting credit sucks!! i have another cover shot for a mag next month and i REALLY hope it doesn't happen again... |
| ______________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:30pm - wade ""] Josh from Trustkill called me one day like "dude i need a scan of that Bleeding Through pic for a news bit in AP" in 2003. They ran the pic, no credit and certainly no $. I think AP hates me already. didn't take long. probably doesn't help that I never have pics of bands they need. still no $ from issue 204. |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:40pm - the_reverend ""] that's ok... carina gets paid for pictures in AP. every month just about. I also reply with pictures, but they never take them. if they do, they go through the label and then get them free from me. I don't think it helps that my introduction to norman was... |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:40pm - the_reverend ""] > > I curious why photos that I've taken are in issue #192 > > of AP. > > last page: > > http://www.returntothepit.com/media.php?id...2004&pic=most_precious_blood025.jpg > > page 36 > > http://www.returntothepit.com/media.php?id...v052003&pic=backstabbers_inc080.jpg > > > > These were placed in your current issue without my > > knowledge. They were also taken off my site, the RTTP > > tag was removed and there is no mention anywhere of a > > photo credit. And then I actually had to buy the issue > > myself. > > > > The only reason I knew about these and went to look > > them up in your magazine is because someone else > > brought it to my attention. I'm curious how many other > > times your magazine has used my pictures without my > > knowledge since I'm too busy working a 40+ hr job to > > fund the expenses of shooting 2-7 shows a week and > > don't have the time to read most magazines. The only > > interaction I've had with your magazine was last week > > when I sent a ZAO picture (which I guess you didn?t > > use). > > Awaiting your response, > > rev aaron > > > > ===== > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > -- New England is Pissed > > -- http://www.returntothepit.com > > -- death.grind.black.metal.hardcore.aggression > > ------------------------------------------------------- |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:41pm - the_reverend ""] the bsi shot was credited (I just couldn't see it in the gutter). the mpb was not anything. |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:42pm - the_reverend ""] and they did use the ZAO shot too |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:43pm - the_reverend ""] and ALOL in the new issue along with the BTBAM |
| __________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:43pm - succubus ""] sorry i <3 AP and am officially photo staff and have pics in every month and i get in the issues in advance funny thing is that aaron introduced them (AP) to me and they loved my pics and i've been working for them for quite a few months now |
| __________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:44pm - succubus ""] but didn't AP tell you the LABEL gave them the pics? sorry but i blame the label |
| _________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 9:55pm - Slasher ""] even if the label gave them the pics, its the mags fault too. dude, bitch fucking HARD to both label and mag, only way they know not to fuck with you |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 10:05pm - BornSoVile ""] metal george writes for metal maniacs?? |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 10:09pm - Hooker nli ""] Dude, split the money 70/30 with powerkok. He'll go down to whatever office the dude works at and break his kneecaps. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 31,2005 10:10pm - wade ""] BornSoVile said:metal george writes for metal maniacs?? yeah. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 31,2005 10:12pm - wade ""] i'm getting paid. i invoiced both issue 204 and the new issue, which has my rufio pics. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 10:13pm - anonymous ""] wade said:i'm getting paid. i invoiced both issue 204 and the new issue, which has my rufio pics. and how proud we all are of you! ha ha |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 10:15pm - the_reverend ""] I need to get more checks so I can afford d2x = $5,000 70-200VR = $1,700 |
| _______________________________ [Aug 31,2005 10:15pm - wade ""] haha. good. you should be. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 31,2005 10:17pm - wade ""] anonymous said:wade said:i'm getting paid. i invoiced both issue 204 and the new issue, which has my rufio pics. and how proud we all are of you! ha ha i should quote more often so anon retards that can't read can reference comments. |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 11:07pm - brian_dc nli ""] I wish people would stop fucking you over, aaron...including bands I love like BTBAM....lame |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 31,2005 11:08pm - anonymous ""] wade said:anonymous said:wade said:i'm getting paid. i invoiced both issue 204 and the new issue, which has my rufio pics. and how proud we all are of you! ha ha i should quote more often so anon retards that can't read can reference comments. your still afuckstick cuntboy |
| _____________________________ [Sep 1,2005 6:44am - wade ""] anonymous said:wade said:anonymous said:wade said:i'm getting paid. i invoiced both issue 204 and the new issue, which has my rufio pics. and how proud we all are of you! ha ha i should quote more often so anon retards that can't read can reference comments. your still afuckstick cuntboy haha, that's awesome. you rule. |
| _____________________________ [Sep 1,2005 6:44am - wade ""] you're still an anonymous douche. |
| _____________________________ [Sep 1,2005 6:46am - wade ""] brian_dc nli said:I wish people would stop fucking you over, aaron...including bands I love like BTBAM....lame it's more the label than the band. i'm sure their hands are clean. |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 1,2005 9:14am - the_reverend ""] yeah, I'm sure the band knows nothing. I e-mailed them saying "well, this is the sort of thing that I get paid from labels for. this AD campaign is in a ton of huge magazines and is full page in them. Most of my other photographer friends (some of whom found the ad and contacted me about it) are telling me that they just send an invoice for 4x the going rate. I'm tempted to do that, but maybe I can talk it over with the person that handles print advertising. these images aren't suppose to be used as just stock images of the band. " |
| _________________________________ [Sep 1,2005 9:20am - succubus ""] i told him the last sentence was too nice other than that rawk |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 1,2005 9:20am - Jonah nli ""] be meaner! |
| _________________________________ [Sep 1,2005 9:24am - succubus ""] lol i had to tell him 10000 times to SEND it...and i can't wait for the reply |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 1,2005 12:16pm - wade nli ""] we all know these bigger labels have $ right now. they're not paying the bands! or so i hear... i actually like his last sentence. to the point, absolutely true and stated tactfully. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 1,2005 12:38pm - succubus ""] i didn't like how he's giving them a "Chance" by trying to talk to the advertising person..hence too nice we'll see what happens hopefully he gets what is coming to him |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 29,2005 7:20pm - the_reverend ""] hey carina, can you paste her response? |