Michael Moore's letter to Bush[views:16554][posts:91]_____________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:02pm - Christraper ""] Friday, September 2nd, 2005 Dear Mr. Bush: Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag. Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with? Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her! I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike? And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ! On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that. There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland. No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this! You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit. Yours, Michael Moore MMFlint@aol.com www.MichaelMoore.com P.S. That annoying mother, Cindy Sheehan, is no longer at your ranch. She and dozens of other relatives of the Iraqi War dead are now driving across the country, stopping in many cities along the way. Maybe you can catch up with them before they get to DC on September 21st. |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:09pm - dan_bloodblister ""] he's like a really clever 9th grader |
| ______________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:13pm - nate ""] I'll bet you he posted this on a blog and never sent a real letter, or on his website. Ridicule and sarcasm isn't going to get anything done. He was probably sitting at his desk eating a cheeseburger and scratching his fat sweaty ass while he wrote this. His 2 movies did nothing to sway voters so I think it's time for this lard ass to shut his mouth or do something rather than writing and doing movies, it's gotten him about as far as Bush has gotten with our "war on terror". |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:13pm - Christraper ""] hahaha yea but at least someones saying something. although i doubt Bush actually read it but whatever. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:16pm - succubus ""] MMFlint@aol.com email him and tell him =) |
| ______________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:17pm - nate ""] the point is, he is saying something not doing anything about it. People don't want to see spliced together tape and overdubs, they want facts and Michael Moore is nothing but a messenger delivering messages to deaf ears. |
| ______________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:17pm - gwb ""] and what has Mr Moore done to help in this time of need. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:18pm - succubus ""] i hear ya email him and tell him =) seriously, i'm just curious to see if he'll say anything...mr moore that is.. ask him what he's doing about it |
| ______________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:18pm - nate ""] I did... I've messaged him before... and like I'm sure Bush doesn't read his stuff I'm sure MM doesn't read anything sent to him... I have never received a response from him and have mailed him several times! |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:19pm - RustedAngel ""] I don't think he delivers messages to deaf ears. Check out his show 'The Awful Truth' there is a lot of interesting segments in the 2 seasons he did. |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:20pm - the_reverend ""] I think that is funny. but then again, I'm constantly called imature, |
| __________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:22pm - succubus ""] i don't think i've ever called you immature |
| ______________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:23pm - nate ""] not trying to argue with ya Tom but what I meant by deaf ears is, all his movies and letters didn't stop people from putting GWB in office for a second term. So, I'd have to say more than 50% of the people in America have deaf ears when it comes to MM. But that's just my take on all of this... |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:32pm - the_reverend ""] 20% of american still think the earth is flat. and bush won cause people don't want guys kissing. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:46pm - hoser ""] gwb said:and what has Mr Moore done to help in this time of need. As usual, he sat back and feasted off of the money that all of the dumbass liberals paid to see his piece of shit movie. He's nothing more than a politician himself. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:50pm - hanlon666 ""] I'm not a big Moore fan, but I think he is pretty spot on in his letter. |
| ______________________________ [Sep 2,2005 12:51pm - nate ""] he may be spot on, but he's still a piece of shit when he's condemning someone and all he's doing is writing letters and eating cheeseburgers |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:24pm - BornSoVile ""] The way people bash Moore is proof that he is a threat. Not to mention anyone who disagrees with him goes out of the way to make fun of his weight and politics (despite the fact he lost over 80 lbs). Everyone slanders the shit out of him at any opportunity. I'm glad somebody is saying something these days. I'd vote him in as president, maybe the people would get some justice. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:33pm - hanlon666 ""] Michael Moore is a filmaker he isn't a member of the administration or the government, I don't see how his failure to respond, if indeed he hasn't, is even remotely comparable to the governments failure. The whole idea that you have to do something to critique it is one of the stupidest notions on Earth. I've never made a movie, I am free to like or dislike his movies. I am not the president, I can certainly comment on the job he is doing. Do you really expect him to jump in a boat and go perform heroic feats? He is a fat nerdy guy who makes movies. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:35pm - dan_bloodblister ""] everyone slanders the shit out of the president too, it doesn't make him any less of a dumbass. it doesn't take that smart of a guy to realize that michael moore is an opportunist prick that cant be taken seriously. id vote ann coulter before him. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:38pm - BornSoVile ""] moore was doing shit during the clinton years, the whole preception that he's soley out for Bush is wrong, Bush is too much of a retard to do anything right-that's why he's pegged for everything. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:41pm - retzam ""] hoser said:gwb said:and what has Mr Moore done to help in this time of need. As usual, he sat back and feasted off of the money that all of the dumbass liberals paid to see his piece of shit movie. He's nothing more than a politician himself. As usual, you're just condemning anything and everything that has to do with liberalism. You sound like your nothing more than a politician yourself. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:43pm - dan_bloodblister ""] ive seen his tv show and movies. i think they are funny. like when he had all the poor people storm that beach in CT. that was hilarious. but you said earlier that youd vote him for president so maybe people would get some justice. well i sure as fuck wouldnt vote him for anything, i mean i know he doesnt claim to be a politician...and rightfully so because hes not. id like to see him hold elected office and see how good he does. see how many people he can keep happy. see exactly how he would handle certain situations and the outcomes that would arise from his dealings...until then hes just some fat nerdy guy who makes movies. |
| ______________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:44pm - hoser ""] Bite my farts Retzam. You're not right. Michael Moore sucks fat hogs and you know it. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:48pm - dan_bloodblister ""] liberals are worse than neocons because at least neocons have a set agenda. liberals are meandering middle class suburban jackass, by in large, that are more interested in why gas prices are so high than why inner city crime rates are skyrocketing. conservatives care about things that directly effect them and make no qualms about that. liberals care about things that directly effect them but try to play it off like they are worldly and want this like, eutopian impossibility that if actually did happen, they wouldnt be able to stomach. fuck liberals. fuck conservatives. mass suicide NOW |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:48pm - BornSoVile ""] dan_bloodblister said:ive seen his tv show and movies. i think they are funny. like when he had all the poor people storm that beach in CT. that was hilarious. but you said earlier that youd vote him for president so maybe people would get some justice. well i sure as fuck wouldnt vote him for anything, i mean i know he doesnt claim to be a politician...and rightfully so because hes not. id like to see him hold elected office and see how good he does. see how many people he can keep happy. see exactly how he would handle certain situations and the outcomes that would arise from his dealings...until then hes just some fat nerdy guy who makes movies. I would like to see that too, he would at least send some food and water to the people within 5 days. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:50pm - dan_bloodblister ""] i dont know man, i mean thats a nice thought. but being the president of the united states is actually a pretty hard job, believe it or not. i dont think theres been one president yet who has actually got it right. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:50pm - BornSoVile ""] dan_bloodblister said:liberals are worse than neocons because at least neocons have a set agenda. liberals are meandering middle class suburban jackass, by in large, that are more interested in why gas prices are so high than why inner city crime rates are skyrocketing. conservatives care about things that directly effect them and make no qualms about that. liberals care about things that directly effect them but try to play it off like they are worldly and want this like, eutopian impossibility that if actually did happen, they wouldnt be able to stomach. fuck liberals. fuck conservatives. mass suicide NOW that's wrong, most liberals are minorites in the lower class. go look at the house of reps and the senate, by large minorities and women are liberal- 2 things conservatives fear, minorities and women. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:50pm - BornSoVile ""] dan_bloodblister said:i dont know man, i mean thats a nice thought. but being the president of the united states is actually a pretty hard job, believe it or not. i dont think theres been one president yet who has actually got it right. true. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:51pm - dan_bloodblister ""] i dont think most minorities label themself as liberal...i think they just fall into that category by default. |
| _____________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:51pm - nate ""] 2 things conservatives fear, minorities and women. Isn't Condoleeza Rice black and female?? Sorry had to give you some shit on that one Josh! |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:52pm - BornSoVile ""] Yeah, and she's a disgrace to her people, ask one! Lately they've been promoting people like that to improve the image of the party. Hilary Clinton's opposition for the senate is a black women. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:53pm - dan_bloodblister ""] actually, i think holding one of the highest offices in the US as a black female is an incredibly impressive achievement - whether you agree with her politics or not. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:53pm - dan_bloodblister ""] i definetly didnt vote for bush. i definetly dont support him or his administration in any way...but i just dont see the point in reactionary statements... |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:54pm - BornSoVile ""] It is a great achivement, but it doesn't change the fact that she sucks. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 2,2005 1:59pm - retzam ""] hoser said:Bite my farts Retzam. You're not right. Michael Moore sucks fat hogs and you know it. I don't have any real respect for him. His efforts didn't really do much for the election anyway. All I was saying with my post is that liberals are just as notorious for Bush bashing as conservatives are for liberal bashing. I'm sick of the whole bandwagon business that you mentioned in your other thread, except I'm getting pissed off at the tendancy for hatred between liberals and conservatives just on the basis of those two labels. I'm fucking sick of it to be honest. People need to shut there mouths. By virtue of the fact that I consider myself liberal, I know upon meeting a conservative that I'm going to completely disagree with them on almost every political stance, so I avoid talking about that shit. God knows I'm not going to change their opinions and they aren't going to change mine. It's pointless. |
| ______________________________ [Sep 2,2005 2:02pm - hoser ""] C'mon up and live in NH (not anywhere near hippy Portsmouth) and you'll see why we're that way. The only reason that I can't stand liberals is due to the fact that they, like some Conservatives, are constantly attacking the 2nd Amendment. We're the biggest super-power in the world for a reason, dude. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 2:04pm - dan_bloodblister ""] we're the biggest super power in the world because some hicks in new hampshire have a shotty under their bed? |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 2:05pm - BornSoVile ""] It gets my blood pumping!! |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 2:12pm - the_reverend ""] if neocons have such a great agenda that they follow, then why don't any neocons follow that agenda? I think you mis-spoke. neocons have a stated agenda that they never follow. but liberals don't have an agenda to follow. |
| ________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 2:19pm - SacreligionNLI ""] they're all reptilian shapeshifters involved in a conspiracy as old as time the bastards! *shakes fist* either that or they're all spoiled brats who don't give a fuck about the state of the country after their term is up |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 2:21pm - the_reverend ""] [img] SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZSTACKZZZZZ ATTACKZZZZZZ!!!! |
| _____________________________ [Sep 2,2005 2:24pm - gwb ""] where is Mr. Moore's contribution to this disaster. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 2:25pm - succubus ""] [img] to quote you, it would help if you linked it properly=) |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 2:26pm - the_reverend ""] huh? |
| ________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 2:27pm - SacreligionNLI ""] there's bush right there! ...look at him...all snug in his confinery...he's mocking us |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 2:32pm - thedeparted ""] dan_bloodblister said:he's like a really clever 9th grader ha |
| _________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 2:34pm - succubus ""] [Sep 2,2005 2:26pm - the_reverend] huh? !~~ easy to type "huh" after you edit your post to be correct...you must have special TEXT... |
| _______________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 4:05pm - mark fucking richards ""] all i have to say is that i wanna start a band called sleeztak. that's my political statement on the matter. |
| _____________________________ [Sep 2,2005 4:38pm - nate ""] he still hasn't e-mailed me! He must be to busy to talk to the common folk. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 6:05pm - george w. bitch..ummmbush. ""] vote for me again.....wait...whattaya mean to tell me i cant be chief again?????? but thas aintis fair......well we will have to change that. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 6:05pm - fuck off ""] [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 7:19pm - grundlegremlin ""] the_reverend said:[img] SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZSTACKZZZZZ ATTACKZZZZZZ!!!!Have you been reading David Icke? |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 8:58pm - RustedAngel ""] nate said:he may be spot on, but he's still a piece of shit when he's condemning someone and all he's doing is writing letters and eating cheeseburgers well, he's doing more than that obviously, he's had a tv show, made two box office hit movies, as well as dvd's and shit. I didn't dig ferenheight 911, but bowling for columbine and his series 'the awful truth' he did make a difference in other issues. there isn't much any one person can do to stand up against a president unless you have nbc and fox on your side, but he did a lot more than any of us here could. A lot more. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 9:32pm - powerkok ""] Why even waste internet space on that fat cunt? |
| ______________________________ [Sep 2,2005 9:49pm - jabu ""] [img] |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 10:46pm - dyingmuse ""] mike moore is a cunt |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 10:50pm - dyingmuse ""] ha ha ha....dude, kok you and i think so alike sometimes i began reading the "letter" when after 1 paragraph i posted mike moore is a cunt it in disgust and had to close the thing. i look back and what can i say....we speak the same language.....you smell what i am stepping in props! \m/ i look back and you called hime a cunt |
| ________________________________________ [Sep 2,2005 11:48pm - DomesticTerror ""] RustedAngel said: there isn't much any one person can do to stand up against a president unless you have nbc and fox on your side, but he did a lot more than any of us here could. A lot more. and no liberal will ever have nbc or fox side with them against GWB or any other right wing asshole. Fox is owned by right winger Rupert Murdoch, and NBC by corporate world polluter General Electric. What would they do if Bush wasn't in the White House, deregulating the industries of his campaign supporters, or giving waivers to media giants who violate market standards? oh wait, i'm not a conservative. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'll have to go ask one of my bandwagon friends... |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 12:01am - davefromthegrave ""] if micheal moore stopped eating so much, new orleans would have food |
| ________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 12:06am - retzam ""] hoser said:C'mon up and live in NH (not anywhere near hippy Portsmouth) and you'll see why we're that way. The only reason that I can't stand liberals is due to the fact that they, like some Conservatives, are constantly attacking the 2nd Amendment. We're the biggest super-power in the world for a reason, dude. The second amendment puzzles me. I have no idea what to think on that issue. I agree that we have the right to arm ourselves. But let's face it, when that amendment was written the most powerful weapon a person could own was a musket. But on the other hand, if people attack an amendment, that leaves all amendments, including the first, up for grabs, and that's no good. Then again, Prohibition was an amendment and they undid that one, but it wasn't on the bill of rights. As you see I'm very confused as to what to think. Myself, I hate guns, make me very confortable to be around and all. I don't think you should be complaining about the rigors of the process of obtaining a firearm legally. If I could just walk into the police station and get a license just by slapping down my name and 30 dollars it would scare the hell out of me, cause that would mean any psycho could do the same thing. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 12:20am - dreadkill ""] i'm a bit more liberal than conservative, but i can't stand people who lean too far one way or another. i like michael moore's films for what they are, but he's putting just as much spin on the facts as anyone else. he's pretty much a politician in his own way. he fights propaganda with propaganda, so i don't put all my faith in his films or his opinions. the truth lies somewhere in the middle. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 12:23am - dyingmuse ""] davefromthegrave said:if micheal moore stopped eating so much, new orleans would have food ahhhh ha ha hah ah ah a!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 that .......was a good one!!!! \m/ |
| ________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 12:31am - retzam ""] dreadkill said:i'm a bit more liberal than conservative, but i can't stand people who lean too far one way or another. i like michael moore's films for what they are, but he's putting just as much spin on the facts as anyone else. he's pretty much a politician in his own way. he fights propaganda with propaganda, so i don't put all my faith in his films or his opinions. the truth lies somewhere in the middle. It's true, when I saw Fahrenheit 911 I kept getting the feeling that he was being just as bias as anyone else. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 3,2005 8:12pm - dan_bloodblister ""] michael moore still sucks |
| ______________________________ [Sep 4,2005 1:05am - hoser ""] and he's still super fat. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 4,2005 1:57am - retzam ""] hoser said:and he's still super fat. Hahaha fits right in with the majority of America then I suppose. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 7:53am - MASlayer ""] Michael Moore never got the attention from mommy and daddy he needed...so he decided to be an "exposer" of an administration he disagrees with to be embraced by bleeding hearts everywhere...remember people...the weak shall inherit NOTHING. I'm curious to know what he donated...besides this ridiculous letter |
| __________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 8:55am - nate nli ""] I've e-mailed him a few times asking the same question. I was even civil about it so that way maybe he'd respond. I guess he's to much of a Hollywood Elite now to answer though. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 9:00am - MASlayer ""] he's a fraud who distorts the truth...not saying i'm ultra conservative hwo believes everything he reads/hears but liberals are wayyyyyyyyyy to extreme these days |
| __________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 9:18am - nate nli ""] That's way things have become, you're right. There doesn't really seem to be much of a grey zone anymore. It's either far far right or far far left. Yes there are people in the middle still but up in the big house that's hard to find. |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 11:42am - BornSoVile ""] He does more than the average person does. Worked his way up from Flint, MI-one of the WORST shit holes in America. I still don't understand why people fear him so much and reject him in absolute disdain. He's sticking up for the average American, and asking questions that NONE of the media is asking! |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 12:13pm - MASlayer ""] Dude...he DISTORTS the truth for his OWN purposes. he's "feared" (and I use that very loosely) because he may convince some people to believe his false propaganda. And if you look at the media, it's ALL at a left slant and I find it sickening. And if he's sticking up for the "average American" let me be the first to say I RENOUNCE him, his views and politics...he DOES NOT speak for me. He's a worse liar than any republican I've seen |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 12:18pm - BornSoVile ""] I think the only reason people say the media is "liberal" (which never happened until W Bush became President) is because they've caught him fucking up more than once and the American people, regardless of the media, are pissed off at him. The media wasn't at all liberal with Clinton. What are some of his lies?? |
| __________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 1:02pm - nate nli ""] "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky." "I tried marijuana but I never inhaled" When the USS Cole had a hole blown in it all Clinton did to retaliate was have a bomber blow up and empty warehouse and called it a day. I could swear there was something called "Whitewater" that happened as well. Clinton was no better than Bush. While Osama Bin Laden was planning attacks and bombing our ships Clinton was to bust getting bj's in the Oval Office. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 1:04pm - nate nli ""] I hear they also nearly caught Osama but botched that one... |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:04pm - anonymous ""] MASlayer said: And if you look at the media, it's ALL at a left slant and I find it sickening. How the hell do you come to that conclusion? Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity said so? Or was it Jerry Callahan? Right wing Clear Channel owns 11% of the market. I already mentioned News Corporation (Murdoch) and NBC earlier on this thread. All networks are owned by big corporations such as GE, Disney, etc. Didn't Westinghouse build nuke plants? You really think these groups support or lean left? This doesn't sound like a complete conflict of interest to you? I never hear about how much lead so and so has put into my water. The only liberal shit I ever hear is how the Panda's haven't fucked. |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:07pm - DomesticTerror ""] sorry, that was me. fucking Mcaffree... |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:14pm - tbone_r nli ""] MASlayer said:...liberals are wayyyyyyyyyy to extreme these days i completely agree. you know what we need? more right wing christian fundamentalists, there just don't seem to be enough around these days. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:28pm - BornSoVile ""] nate nli said:"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky." "I tried marijuana but I never inhaled" When the USS Cole had a hole blown in it all Clinton did to retaliate was have a bomber blow up and empty warehouse and called it a day. I could swear there was something called "Whitewater" that happened as well. Clinton was no better than Bush. While Osama Bin Laden was planning attacks and bombing our ships Clinton was to bust getting bj's in the Oval Office. yeah, I phrased that wrong- What are some of MOORE's lies? I've never doubted that Clinton lied to save his ass, but the whole notion that he compltely corrupted the well being of social morality in his two terms is too extreme for me to soak up. Politicians aren't angels, just pay Ken Starr 10 mil a year to probe somebody, he'll find all sorts of things for you. |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:46pm - DomesticTerror ""] of course we all know that there is no difference between lying about an extra-marital affair and lying about WMD to wage a war against another nation. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 2:49pm - MASlayer ""] Liberal media has been brewing for years now...Hannity I O'Reilly are JUST coming to light NOW...did you hear of them 10-15 years ago like this? Ann Clouter would NEVER have gotten recognition like she;s getting back then...the big conglomerates (NCB, CBS, ABC, CNN) are ALL with liberal slant, that's a fact. look at the NY Post, Washington Times and Newsweek...again all with liberal slant. And if yuou don't think these big corporations play both sides of the field, you're WAAAAAAYYYYY off on that assumption. Those big corporations are in it for THEMSELEVS and will side with whoever can give them most benefit...again, look beyond what you see and things will become clearer |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 3:05pm - BornSoVile ""] We're agreeing to disargee here Rich! I still feel the liberal slant that you see is just simply reflecting the current state of the nation, badly, which when you look at the facts things are pretty shitty right now. |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 3:28pm - DomesticTerror ""] I see the media pandering to both sides with the small issues, feel good stories, etc. that, to me, aren't even really news. Noble soldier stories, or some woman with 9 kids who has defeated foot cancer. Hours upon hours of insipid 2 minute bits that distract from what really goes on. I see what little objectivity we actually do have smeared as "liberal." And I see the corporations who own the media putting their commercial interests ahead of our right to information. What is there to see beyond that? Please tell me. (i'm not trying to be a dick. this is some good discussion.) |
| __________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 9:12pm - MASlayer ""] When you look at the reports it's a very "anti-Bush" sentiment that reflects an opinion of the media...unless you see a (useless) poll that favors Bush, there is nothing good being said about him or his policies...hell look at all the useless coverage from that retard who camped out on his TX vacation home (forgot her name)...TONS of press. The military moms who disagreed and went on a caravan tour got very little press. Why? The one mom expressed the liberal side and the media ate it up like candy? Why not equal time for the moms who actually honored their sones & daughters instead of disgracing them by frutiless antics? Her "sit in" was only a ruse anyway to start the "peace movement" and she said that herself!! A Phony, hypocrite... |
| ________________________________________ [Sep 4,2005 10:30pm - DomesticTerror ""] i don't recall her name either. that might be saying something of the coverage. I DO recall the talk radio jeers calling her a whiner and the constant sound bits of her chanting. I'll be the first to admit that i listen to way too much right wing talk radio though. I do agree with you on her though, she seems to be a bit loopy. as far as Bush press, i've seen very little criticism, UNTIL recently. He's in a bit of a mess now, and everyone's scrambling to get away from him. As happy as this makes me, i think it's sad that it took a natural disaster costing maybe thousands of lives, and a Louisiana senator claiming she might "punch him" to get this attention. Although most of the bush articles today are about Renquist, or how Bush said the relief effort is "unacceptable." 46% of people polled are fine with Bush's handling of the NO relief. Whatever. I'm sure within the next week or so, there will be something terror related that will put this all in the back pages of the newspapers. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 5,2005 8:40am - MASlayer ""] well...where I sometimes listen to Jat Severen or Laura Ingram, that's on a small Boston station. Compared to BIG affiliates in the media and press, she's made out to be some "mourning martyr". Liberal press eats this up because it serves their own personal agenda. She's a fraud and a disgrace |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 5,2005 9:09am - armageddanne ""] Christraper said:hahaha yea but at least someones saying something. although i doubt Bush actually read it but whatever. He propably doesnt know how to read. |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 5,2005 11:00am - intricateprocess ""] michael moore is a fat piece of shit |
| ___________________________________________ [Sep 5,2005 1:16pm - Hung_to_Bleed_nli ""] If half the things that Michael Moore said were true, the fat bastard would be laying dead in a ditch somewhere with his tounge cut out |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 5,2005 2:21pm - BornSoVile ""] Saying the media is liberal is the just the same as saying conservatives have been victimized. People need to stop crying and denying the fact Bush has done a bad job. After all the Rovian tactics used to slander Clinton for charges that multiply daily, it's a fraud for anyone who to realize the same things are happening now. It's a fucking shame they've slander the media (though not the greatest in the world) so now we're not supposed to believe anyone or anything that gives us news, cause it's liberal. Good job negating free press and terminating a major part of the American spirit. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 5,2005 2:32pm - MASlayer ""] I never said conservatives were victimized...just that liberalism is a cancer that needs to be extracted because it does NO good, history shows it. If YOU want to pay all the tax hikes to fund their "programs" go right ahead. Half the things they want funding for is useless anyway |