the boycott thread[views:11286][posts:204]__________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:15am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Anthony nli said:ArrowHead nli said:the_taste_of_cigarettes said: justice works more than "We don't like this guy, he can go fuck himself!! LEAVE OUR SOCIETY!" That's exactly what this IS! Lemme explain this to the few webtards that decided to turn this into some kind of idealist debate: We played a show for Kenny. He fucked us, and everyone else there. He ran out early, and would accept no responsiblity. We gave him a second shot. He fucked us, and everyone there AGAIN. He asked us a third time, we said fuck you. There was a bill a while back that everyone wanted us to play in Worcester. AGAIN, it was a kenny show. We said no thanks. Guess what? Everyone there got FUCKED AGAIN! More bands decided to play NO MORE KENNY SHOWS. Soon a big list formed, and people started mis-representing it as a boycott. Take your idealist schemes of reform and tolerance and shove them up yer asses. Kenny's a piece of shit, and I for one don't think he deserves ANY chance. He needs to leave, and never try booking a show again. You don't agree? Fine. Get the fuck out of our thread with your political science garbage. Go play one of his shows, and get fucked. Then come back, like over a dozen other bands have now, and say "oh shit! Kenny's a dirtbag. We don't like him and want him to go away". As you might see, I REALLY don't like that kid, and I'm sick of seeing good repectable bands get unwillingly fucked. If I have a chance to post, boycott, or do ANYTHING to spread the word, I WILL. while i wouldn't have put it to you quite so harshly Nick, this is how I feel as well. this isn't a political ethics debate in some college discussion section, this is a local metal scene. The idea is still to have justice, but in a simpler way, like this: " you fuck local and national bands, get the fuck out of the scene." Kenny is lucky he's not getting the shit beaten out of him as well. Let's put it like this. You act on your feelings of anger and don't pursue things in a just way, what does that say about your "scene"? What does that say about how you view "justice"? I'm not a thug, I do things by a system that has integrity and honor. If you guys want to act like a lynch mob have fun but count me out. I respect myself and my ethics more than I care about getting paid at a show. I wouldn't work with Kenny again as he did blow us off (we asked for $10 in gas from the Neuraxis show and he claimed he was broke) and he did screw Josh and Blue over with something I was involved in (he dropped the ball on the PA last minute). I'm not joining this "boycott" in that it's clear to me people are just out for blood and don't care about anything besides revenge. If anyone wants to get this guy the right way I'm all ears, otherwise I'm stepping away from this "boycott" -- a boycott I view as pretty useless considering it has no goal other than that of an angry mob. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:20am - brian_dc ""] nick...i really think I fucked up in naming this "boycott" my most recent post says my intentions. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:23am - Anthony nli ""] you're mistaken Nick, this isn't about acting on feelings of anger. I think Kenny is a pathetic person and I dislike his actions, but I can't say I'm actually angry at him in any visceral sense. It's about not watching this same tired, played-out situation of Kenny ripping bands off happen again. I, for one, don't want to bother with convoluted schemes that better fit some roundabout idea of justice. He doesn't deserve another chance, period. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:31am - BornSoVile ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said: I wouldn't work with Kenny again as he did blow us off (we asked for $10 in gas from the Neuraxis show and he claimed he was broke) and he did screw Josh and Blue over with something I was involved in (he dropped the ball on the PA last minute). I'm not joining this "boycott" in that it's clear to me people are just out for blood and don't care about anything besides revenge. If anyone wants to get this guy the right way I'm all ears, otherwise I'm stepping away from this "boycott" -- a boycott I view as pretty useless considering it has no goal other than that of an angry mob. Dude, it's simple boycott 101 shit. nobody wants to get political about it. the whole "campaign" is motivated towards AWARENESS. hopefully over time nobody will work with him or go to his shows and he won't have a job. it's simple dude, trust me. there is no need for a maniphesto or declaration. just don't play his shows or go to them. it's as simple as that. |
| _______________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:32am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] In the interest of justice I am going to convene a summit between a KOHO Mario Lemieux Street Hockey Stick and Kenny Lanning's face. After initial talks fall through delegates from my right and left fists will introduce legislation to place sanctions upon Kenny Lanning's nose and ribs. In the further interest of justice my right foot will tack on a pork barrel addendum to authorize force against South Kenny Lanning's scrotal coast. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:34am - ArrowHead nli ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said: I wouldn't work with Kenny again as he did blow us off (we asked for $10 in gas from the Neuraxis show and he claimed he was broke) and he did screw Josh and Blue over with something I was involved in (he dropped the ball on the PA last minute). I'm not joining this "boycott" You just did. What did I just explain to you? It's not a fucking boycott of some toilet paper manufacturers. It's a list of who will no longer work with the kid... and you JUST ADDED YOURSELF TO IT. Get it now? You wanna save the world and have ethics, go join habitat for humanity. In a scene with a billion bands and like 4 clubs, there is NO ROOM FOR ACID TESTS. Kenny is done. If anyone continues working with him, they've been warned. Eventually, our list will get bigger and bigger, and Kenny just won't be able to get bands to play. That's nature, survival of the fittest. There's no room for morality in nature. |
| ___________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:35am - BestialOnslaught ""] Goddamn, Nick, don't you ever shut your sanctimonious, self-righteous mouth (keyboard)? Who the fuck are you to dictate scene politics to a bunch of bands that you don't have anything to do with, and don't sound a thing like yours. Looking at the list up there, I'd have to say it's pretty much all METAL bands, definitely don't see any Screamo in there. I really don't think anyone gives a shit if you join the boycott or not, why are you trying to force yourself upon it with the condition of writing this ripoff a notarized contract for redemption? This thread was started to make a list, not so you could play Scene Jesus. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:36am - BornSoVile ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:In the interest of justice I am going to convene a summit between a KOHO Mario Lemieux Street Hockey Stick and Kenny Lanning's face. After initial talks fall through delegates from my right and left fists will introduce legislation to place sanctions upon Kenny Lanning's nose and ribs. In the further interest of justice my right foot will tack on a pork barrel addendum to authorize force against South Kenny Lanning's scrotal coast. The above foremention exerpt is paragraph 4 section 2 taken from the complete boycotting manephesto against his tyrannical stuporness kenneth lanning. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:37am - Anthony nli ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:In the interest of justice I am going to convene a summit between a KOHO Mario Lemieux Street Hockey Stick and Kenny Lanning's face. After initial talks fall through delegates from my right and left fists will introduce legislation to place sanctions upon Kenny Lanning's nose and ribs. In the further interest of justice my right foot will tack on a pork barrel addendum to authorize force against South Kenny Lanning's scrotal coast. hahaha Janssen you are fucking hilarious |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:41am - brian_dc ""] BestialOnslaught said:Goddamn, Nick, don't you ever shut your sanctimonious, self-righteous mouth (keyboard)? Who the fuck are you to dictate scene politics to a bunch of bands that you don't have anything to do with, and don't sound a thing like yours. Looking at the list up there, I'd have to say it's pretty much all METAL bands, definitely don't see any Screamo in there. I really don't think anyone gives a shit if you join the boycott or not, why are you trying to force yourself upon it with the condition of writing this ripoff a notarized contract for redemption? This thread was started to make a list, not so you could play Scene Jesus. for the record, I love The Taste of Silver... |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:42am - brian_dc ""] and I think Nick's a good dude, too... |
| __________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:42am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] BornSoVile said:the_taste_of_cigarettes said: I wouldn't work with Kenny again as he did blow us off (we asked for $10 in gas from the Neuraxis show and he claimed he was broke) and he did screw Josh and Blue over with something I was involved in (he dropped the ball on the PA last minute). I'm not joining this "boycott" in that it's clear to me people are just out for blood and don't care about anything besides revenge. If anyone wants to get this guy the right way I'm all ears, otherwise I'm stepping away from this "boycott" -- a boycott I view as pretty useless considering it has no goal other than that of an angry mob. Dude, it's simple boycott 101 shit. nobody wants to get political about it. the whole "campaign" is motivated towards AWARENESS. hopefully over time nobody will work with him or go to his shows and he won't have a job. it's simple dude, trust me. there is no need for a maniphesto or declaration. just don't play his shows or go to them. it's as simple as that. a simple boycott includes terms. a boycott without terms is just a pack of people looking to unite to a common sensibility. If the boycott were asking something of Kenny or an attempt to make him change, then fine, that makes sense. But the boycott is just so someone will say "See Kenny, we don't like you. Go away". That really isn't worth my time at all. Not going to his shows or playing his shows is pretty unproductive. He'll just find other bands and other people, that have nothing to do with this board, will go. You'll never get rid of the problem unless you address it. And when someone does, do you want to address it in a way that's civil, or a way that says more about us than him? |
| __________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:44am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] BestialOnslaught said:Goddamn, Nick, don't you ever shut your sanctimonious, self-righteous mouth (keyboard)? Who the fuck are you to dictate scene politics to a bunch of bands that you don't have anything to do with, and don't sound a thing like yours. Looking at the list up there, I'd have to say it's pretty much all METAL bands, definitely don't see any Screamo in there. I really don't think anyone gives a shit if you join the boycott or not, why are you trying to force yourself upon it with the condition of writing this ripoff a notarized contract for redemption? This thread was started to make a list, not so you could play Scene Jesus. don't mind Alex, he's just experiencing downtime from his usual set of threads like this http://board.honeypump.net/t.php?id=32242&r=40 |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:46am - BornSoVile ""] If he'll find other bands they'll be metalcore BSR ones, NOT MY PROBLEM! |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:47am - brian_dc ""] though if BSR bands start getting to play with bands like Vital Remains, we will get pissed I'm sure. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:47am - DeOdiumMortis ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:That really isn't worth my time at all. But trying to play moderator to all this is worth it? *shakes head* |
| __________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:47am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] brian_dc said:though if BSR bands start getting to play with bands like Vital Remains, we will get pissed I'm sure. you mean like Skulltoboggan? What a genre conflict that must have been. |
| __________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:49am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] DeOdiumMortis said:the_taste_of_cigarettes said:That really isn't worth my time at all. But trying to play moderator to all this is worth it? *shakes head* adding my two cents so that a movement that could have ugliness to it acts in a civil way = worth my time joining a clique so that way someone can feel like shit = not worth my time pretty easy set of equations there |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:50am - BornSoVile ""] i don't know what's creepier, someone pretending their alex and purposefully slandering him or the number of people who had serious replies to that thread. |
| ___________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:51am - BestialOnslaught ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:BestialOnslaught said:Goddamn, Nick, don't you ever shut your sanctimonious, self-righteous mouth (keyboard)? Who the fuck are you to dictate scene politics to a bunch of bands that you don't have anything to do with, and don't sound a thing like yours. Looking at the list up there, I'd have to say it's pretty much all METAL bands, definitely don't see any Screamo in there. I really don't think anyone gives a shit if you join the boycott or not, why are you trying to force yourself upon it with the condition of writing this ripoff a notarized contract for redemption? This thread was started to make a list, not so you could play Scene Jesus. don't mind Alex, he's just experiencing downtime from his usual set of threads like this http://board.honeypump.net/t.php?id=32242&r=40 Dude, you can try to twist this around into something entirely different, but I don't see how the fact that I waste some of my time shooting the shit with hipsters online changes the fact that you're totally full of shit. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:51am - BornSoVile ""] brian_dc said:though if BSR bands start getting to play with bands like Vital Remains, we will get pissed I'm sure. yeah and there will be double backlash from the people who don't go here, they'll think the palladium hates metal or something. |
| ___________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:51am - BestialOnslaught ""] And anyways, that gauge piercings thread was cool. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 12:55am - BornSoVile ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said: joining a clique so that way someone can feel like shit = not worth my time and you're posting links about Alex on honeypump.... |
| _________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:00am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] BornSoVile said:the_taste_of_cigarettes said: joining a clique so that way someone can feel like shit = not worth my time and you're posting links about Alex on honeypump.... I'm not joining a clique to make Alex feel like shit. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:00am - BestialOnslaught ""] I really don't see how this has anything to do with making Kenny feel like shit, though I'm sure a lot of the people involved wouldn't mind. I think it's respectable that bands are putting their names out there to support the message, it's better than letting the rumor mill spread the word. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:02am - DeOdiumMortis ""] Seems to me that all it is is a collection of people who have a collective reason to say "no" if Kenny asks them to play on a show he books, nothing more. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:03am - BornSoVile ""] BestialOnslaught said:it's better than letting the rumor mill spread the word. exactly. as if this issue doesn't already have enough drama. |
| _________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:04am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] BestialOnslaught said:I really don't see how this has anything to do with making Kenny feel like shit, though I'm sure a lot of the people involved wouldn't mind. I think it's respectable that bands are putting their names out there to support the message, it's better than letting the rumor mill spread the word. I genuinely don't see what the point of the boycott is. And those "FOR" say "To get Kenny the fuck out of the scene". That stupid. What does taht solve? That we can run people out of town? Someone said "in a town with 4 venues". Fine, we have 4 venues and he has a right that if he is going to book at any of them he is to do it in an ethical and responsible way. Clearly he hasn't. What we REALLY want is for someone to act in accordance with the as-yet unspoken rules that are to pay bands, follow through on verbal promises, etc etc. That's my goal. It seems there is another goal that people are talking about that they don't like kenny and just want to get back at him for fucking them over. That's not something I care to share in. However, I do support the idea of being formal and systematic about the approach. I think it will do more good than any other method if you make significant, clear demands from him and give him the choice whether or not to meet them. |
| _________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:07am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] also I am under the impression that the "wrong" he has done is not pay these bands. I see no harm in asking him to pay those bands as part of the process, rather than just assuming bands will pay for their gas, van repairs, tour food, etc etc by way of us just running kenny out of town. If you really care that these people got fucked, why not make reparations part of what you are doing? If he doesn't pay you are where you are now, but you can at least let him know you aren't letting him get away with it, and that when he doesn't pay bands, they will group against him and cause some kind of action. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:09am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] The point of a boycott is to get someone to A) Change the way they conduct business or that failing B) Put them out of business People boycotting him just to cut him out of the scene have every right to. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:10am - brian_dc ""] nick, the only problem with that is that the very people who have no intention of dealing with him would then have to work with Kenny to do this...most people are sick and tired of his actions. That's why you're getting so much resistance. |
| _________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:10am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:The point of a boycott is to get someone to A) Change the way they conduct business or that failing B) Put them out of business People boycotting him just to cut him out of the scene have every right to. you're agreeing with what i am saying, then. Which is first make an action to CHANGE his business actions, and when that doesn't work, use the SAME action (if not a new or greater one) to then REMOVE him from business. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:12am - BornSoVile ""] fucking christ nick, way to be negative and shit on everything. if you were this concerned about the everything why did it take you this long to speak up? we're acting collectively here, there's no need for dictator to tell us how to do it. |
| _________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:15am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] brian_dc said:nick, the only problem with that is that the very people who have no intention of dealing with him would then have to work with Kenny to do this...most people are sick and tired of his actions. That's why you're getting so much resistance. you're right, but people are putting the cart in front of the horse. They are saying OK IF WE JUST BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF KENNY AND DRAG HIM IN THE STREETS, THAT WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM. The catch is how the fuck are we better than kenny then? We are the kind of people that drag people into the streets after beating the shit out of them. I'd rather put who I am before what I want and make sure that when all is said and done I am not a brute or some kind of person I don't respect. I'm not saying anyone has to join me, but I think this kind of call-to-arms (as people see it, not necessarily as you intended it) as just a chance to vent their anger in a new way. If Kenny weren't here and people were talking about shit beating and running people out of town, I'd be having the same discussion. I'm totally against people acting in lynch mob fashion, but I am totally for the idea of organizing with a common goal for something that is, in the end, fair. If Kenny fucks himself on a list of reasonable demands then he only has himself to blame. Truth is, right now dude's not getting it. When 50-100 bands approach him with a list of demands, dude will get it and have no choice but to answer to the list or deal with the consequences which will be CLEAR to him at that time. It's him deciding his fate, which to me is much sweeter in the end if he decided to be a douche. That, Josh, is boycott 101. Boycotts without a point are just ignoring the problem. I mean shit, I've been vegetarian for 7 years just about. Are they still selling meat? Yup. That's a boycott too ya know. |
| _________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:17am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] BornSoVile said:fucking christ nick, way to be negative and shit on everything. if you were this concerned about the everything why did it take you this long to speak up? we're acting collectively here, there's no need for dictator to tell us how to do it. dude you and I have a common thinking on this. Seems you are just mad that I would rather treat Kenny like a person rather than an "evil-doer". I'm being realistic about this. Treating him like Darth Vader is living in a fantasy land. |
| _________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:19am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] and I simply would not work with Kenny and that's that. I don't need to join a group to feel I understand my actions or ideas. when I saw this thread and people's responses, I mad a very valid, very useful suggestion which I stand by. I would like to see your botcott cause more good than bad. To be frank, BSV, I am being quite positive versus the negativity of, quote "FUCK KENNY LANNING". |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:21am - BornSoVile ""] whatever nick, everything was cool until it bogged down by politics. thanks. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:22am - BestialOnslaught ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:That, Josh, is boycott 101. Ha, whatever you say Professor. Look at how much diarrhea you've spewed in this thread compared to everyone else's basic, straightforward, short arguments. Are you just trying to raise your post count or something? |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:23am - BestialOnslaught ""] Seriously, let's see some credentials. How about some info on the last successful boycott you directed Nick? A little proof that you're not just spouting a bunch of total garbage for the sake of feeding your own bi-polar ego? |
| _________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:25am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] BornSoVile said:whatever nick, everything was cool until it bogged down by politics. thanks. if suggesting how to have a successful boycott is bogging things down, then I have even less empathy for whatever was originally intended with all of this. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:28am - BornSoVile ""] IT'S NOT A FUCKING PROFESSIONAL BOYCOTT, IT'S A BUNCH OF METALHEADS WHO PLAY EXTREME METAL AND DON'T WANT TO INVOLVED WITH A SCUMBAG PROMOTER, NOT AN ALL OUT PROFESSIONALLY DOCUMENTED SPITEFUL LEGAL ASSAULT. It's a fucking messageboard, don't pull that matyr shit on me. |
| _________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:29am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] BestialOnslaught said:Seriously, let's see some credentials. How about some info on the last successful boycott you directed Nick? A little proof that you're not just spouting a bunch of total garbage for the sake of feeding your own bi-polar ego? I'm not organizing a boycott. Clean your thick framed glasses and move that wave of teased hair from your eyes. I am suggesting if you make a list of demands you have the possibility of gaining more than if the boycott were simply about just getting revenge on someone. A Boycott that says "You can never book a show again" won't accomplish as much as making Kenny accountable for things and restoring what he set off-balance. A boycott without a goal that whoever or whatever you are boycotting can answer to (or would answer to) is just a dummy that is there for looks. The real goal is to make this something Kenny CAN answer to and that something real, tangible, and necessary can come from. I feel like I am speaking Taiwanese here....this isn't hard. |
| _________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:30am - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] BornSoVile said:IT'S NOT A FUCKING PROFESSIONAL BOYCOTT, IT'S A BUNCH OF METALHEADS WHO PLAY EXTREME METAL AND DON'T WANT TO INVOLVED WITH A SCUMBAG PROMOTER, NOT AN ALL OUT PROFESSIONALLY DOCUMENTED SPITEFUL LEGAL ASSAULT. It's a fucking messageboard, don't pull that matyr shit on me. SO THEN WHY HAVE YOU BEEN WRITING COUNTLESS POSTS ABOUT SOME KIND OF BOYCOTT and turn the caps lock off. What are we, in 10th grade? Keyboard courage, yeesh. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:31am - BestialOnslaught ""] I don't see how putting a ripoff out of business has ANYTHING to do with vengeance. It's good business. Face it, you're full of shit. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:32am - BornSoVile ""] Nick, you havn't expressed any interest in this at all until now and they only thing you've done is put down the efforts of everyone. We don't need or want your suggestions. I am asking you very nicely to not post about this topic if it bothers you that much. Thank you. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:32am - BestialOnslaught ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:BornSoVile said:whatever nick, everything was cool until it bogged down by politics. thanks. if suggesting how to have a successful boycott is bogging things down, then I have even less empathy for whatever was originally intended with all of this. BestialOnslaught said:Seriously, let's see some credentials. How about some info on the last successful boycott you directed Nick? |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:32am - brian_dc ""] I do see Nick's point...but I also think that gathering a list of bands who will not work with Kenny isn't totally useless. I don't think it's a formation of a clique or a mob. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:33am - BornSoVile ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said: SO THEN WHY HAVE YOU BEEN WRITING COUNTLESS POSTS ABOUT SOME KIND OF BOYCOTT like I said, IT'S NOT A FUCKING PROFESSIONAL BOYCOTT, IT'S A BUNCH OF METALHEADS WHO PLAY EXTREME METAL AND DON'T WANT TO INVOLVED WITH A SCUMBAG PROMOTER, NOT AN ALL OUT PROFESSIONALLY DOCUMENTED SPITEFUL LEGAL ASSAULT. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:33am - DeOdiumMortis ""] brian_dc said:I do see Nick's point...but I also think that gathering a list of bands who will not work with Kenny isn't totally useless. I don't think it's a formation of a clique or a mob. Way to remain neutral! |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:35am - ArrowHead nli ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said: I genuinely don't see what the point of the boycott is. And those "FOR" say "To get Kenny the fuck out of the scene". That stupid. What does taht solve? That we can run people out of town? Exactly. I have no morals or ethics binding me as you seem to. I'll gladly run him out of town, you can just stand by and watch. Keep thinking all you want. I've got 15 years of experience playing in bands, watching clubs close down, and watching fuckwits like Kenny come and go. Idealists like yourself never make a difference except maybe to prolong the dying throes of some fuckwit "promoter" for a while. Idealism is great. Morals are great. You took the high road, good for you. However, Kenny Lanning is still DONE. Sleep well. |