Why Black Metal Failed[views:2202][posts:19]____________________________________ [Dec 21,2005 2:40pm - infoterror ""] This article examines an enduring question raised by subcultural studies: how youth culture can be challenging and transgressive, yet ‘fail’ to produce wider social change. This question is addressed through a case study of the black metal music scene. The black metal scene flirts with violent racism, yet has resisted embracing outright fascism. The article argues that this is due to the way in which music is ‘reflexively antireflexively’ constructed as a depoliticizing category. It is argued that an investigation of such forms of reflexivity might explain the enduring ‘failure’ of youth cultures to change more than their immediate surroundings. (Translation: youth culture always becomes more about socialization and buying products to socialize about, thus loses all impetus. Punk. Hippies. Death metal. Black metal. Techno. All failed, all for the same reason: popularity became greater than ideology. The crowd took over.) Full PDF text: http://ecs.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/7/1/95.pdf |
| __________________________________ [Dec 21,2005 2:57pm - litacore ""] hmm--that was a fairly interesting read I wonder what Kahn-Harris thinks of the Blues scene |
| ______________________________ [Dec 21,2005 3:13pm - Yeti ""] blah blah blah |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 21,2005 3:35pm - Drone Droid ""] So what genre hasnt failed? |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 21,2005 5:04pm - thirdknuckle ""] To proclaim that it failed requires that there be a specific goal. It's just music. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 21,2005 7:31pm - infoterror ""] If it's just music, why does music communicate meaning? That's the dumbest fucking thing I've heard all day, yet it's so popular many people are saying it. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 21,2005 7:41pm - dreadkill ""] my question is who gives a shit? most of the musicians involved in the original black metal scene make heavy progressive rock now anyway. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 21,2005 8:19pm - CNV ""] Dead accomplished his goal Aim for the star kiddies! |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 21,2005 10:22pm - infoterror ""] A genre or artistic movement is bigger than its members... STOP THINKING IN TERMS OF PERSONALITY AND OWNERSHIP THERE'S A WORLD OUT THERE |
| ______________________________ [Dec 22,2005 4:26am - CNV ""] infoterror said:A genre or artistic movement is bigger than its members... STOP THINKING IN TERMS OF PERSONALITY AND OWNERSHIP THERE'S A WORLD OUT THERE I guess it really does not matter being that every false empire crumbles and dies. All the essay reports do not amount to shit in the grand scheme of things. Watch it burn and if you happen to survive after shit really hits the fan Kill and Claim this world as yours |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 7:54am - MASlayer ""] black metal is a sub genre of a bigger picture...HEAVY METAL...and that has NOT failed |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 8:10am - SacreligionNLI ""] infoterror said:That's the dumbest fucking thing I've heard all day, yet it's so popular many people are saying it. and you're the one claiming that a genre of music can "fail"...i didn't realize it was on a quest to begin with...as long as people are expressing themselves through it, it will never fail that's what the beauty of music is |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 8:11am - Messerschmitt ""] the more you know |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 8:12am - SacreligionNLI ""] what? ...canada sucks! |
| _______________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 11:40am - MorbidMike BMR Bass ""] Black Metal Has'nt Failed! |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 11:42am - Arthur_ATD ""] i think that anything trying to stay underground will enivatebly get popular, because people will start wondering whats so special that it has to be kept a secret. if black metal bands come out and are like hey, lets get really popular really fast, people won't want them to, and therefore they'll be underground again, use reverse pshycology on mtv...... i bet it'd work |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 2:26pm - anonymous ""] Black Metal only failed when you realized your favorite bands had been left behind. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 7:33pm - infoterror ""] BLACK METAL ACHIEVED NOTHING EXCEPT AMUSING SOME FOOLS AS WE CAN SEE BY RESPONSES HERE MAYBE YOU SHOULD FIND MUSIC THAT GLORIFIES MASTURBATION THEN YOU WILL (FOR ONCE) NOT FAIL. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 7:43pm - swamplorddvm ""] Yeah, I don't like some of the facist shit that SOME of it may have. I'm with the whole "anti-christianity" or anything monotheistic. But it's good music. Black Metal=good music. Goal achieved ass whipe. Hear that? it's a breakdown. go pick up some change! |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 24,2005 7:04pm - infoterror ""] YIP AND YAP IF YOU WANT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY BLACK METAL CHANGED NOTHING -|- |