The real cost of war.[views:8745][posts:42]_______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 12:03pm - diamond_dave ""] fuck war-- all wars, not just this one-- and fuck you if you support it. what problem did this solve? was it worth it? [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 12:28pm - ryanfromhbbsi ""] [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 1:10pm - PatMeebles ""] How many of those kids were actually killed/maimed by American Troops? Isurgents? How many less people were killed because we invaded? Based on UN numbers, because we invaded, the Iraqi death rate dropped to a point where by now 50,000 less people have died. War sucks, but the idea that if it isn't perfect it's useless is pretty naive. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 2:00pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] Fuck those kids. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 2:01pm - the_reverend ""] MSD: boo for your comment. I was expecting a "hot" comment. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 2:05pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] Well, maybe I meant it literally. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 2:14pm - HailTheLeaf ""] Over 100,000 Iraqi civilians dead and still counting..what have they ever done to us? nothing. For shits and giggles you can also look up how many died as a result of the U.S./Britian and several other European countries helping Saddam into power and giving him weapons...and how many died later because of sanctions. What aren't all the assholes in our government who supported Saddam over the last 25 years also on trial? |
| ____________________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 2:22pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] You know, it's not very metal to have such strong feelings. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 3:03pm - MorbidMike BMR Bass ""] Support The Troops and yes War is bad But Terrorists are much worse.And they don't care who they hurt atleast we are'nt trying to kill innocent people on purpose!<img src="http://www.rp-online.de/layout/showbilder/722-USA_TERROR_JAHRESTAG_CHRONIK_FRA503.jpg"> |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 3:17pm - PatMeebles ""] HailTheLeaf said:Over 100,000 Iraqi civilians dead and still counting..what have they ever done to us? nothing. For shits and giggles you can also look up how many died as a result of the U.S./Britian and several other European countries helping Saddam into power and giving him weapons...and how many died later because of sanctions. What aren't all the assholes in our government who supported Saddam over the last 25 years also on trial? You do realize that the 100,000 civilians toll is based off the fact that it's between 8,000 and 198,000? That's the range of numbers that the survey created where the 100,000 comes from. It's not accurate at all. the 26,000 number is waaaaaaay closer. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 4:54pm - DaveFromTheGrave ""] these pictures actually bother me, cause I really do feel bad for those poor kids. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 22,2005 5:03pm - nick ""] shoot kids ! |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 5:05pm - diamond_dave ""] PatMeebles said:War sucks, but the idea that if it isn't perfect it's useless is pretty naive. pat, i actually agree with you here. my thing though is that i don't support any war for any reason ever*. no matter what side you're on, most of the people that die are innocent (and i'm including soldiers here), and the people who are responsible (presidents/dictaors/whatever, commanders, generals) are lauded as heroes. *aside from simultaneous global holcaust of course. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 5:19pm - the_reverend ""] the pictures bother me too. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 5:21pm - the_reverend ""] [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 5:22pm - the_reverend ""] KILLFUCKINGEVERYTHING |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 5:35pm - GoatOfCatalyst ""] Humanity had a pretty shitty run - I'd say it's time something come along and end it promptly. We shouldn't be offered the dignity of doing ourselves in |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 7:04pm - Hoser NLI ""] Welcome to war, hippies. Instead of sitting here and whining about war, try being one of the troops that see that shit 1st hand. War sucks no matter how you cut the cards, and no American enjoys causing that kind of pain to children. It happens, get used to it. There will always be innocent casualties. There always has been, since the beginning of time. Too bad the liberal media doesn't publish the pictures of the gassed and dead that Saddam was responsible for. Instead they publish whatever they think could defame their President and Commander in Chief. It's a sick world that we live in. |
| ________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 7:10pm - Bradd ""] i just cranked Insults "i wanna be a burn victim" War! What is it good for! Burning flesh and suffering! Say it again! WAR! We rule, we are the best, we are the ultimate superpower and some people feel guilty about it. Tough shit. If we listened to the liberals we'd be so fucked right now. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 7:24pm - George W ""] Abolish freedom. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 7:39pm - slowlypeelingtheflesh nli ""] Hoser NLI said:Too bad the liberal media doesn't publish the pictures of the gassed and dead that Saddam was responsible for. Instead they publish whatever they think could defame their President and Commander in Chief. To bad that was 10 years ago |
| _______________________________ [Dec 22,2005 8:23pm - sever ""] HailTheLeaf said:Over 100,000 Iraqi civilians dead and still counting. You're about 80,000 off there. granted thats still a pretty big number. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 8:42pm - DomesticTerror ""] we're ignoring the REAL issue here. Did we take back the key to city of Detroit that we gave Saddam waaay back? I hope so... |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 8:44pm - the_reverend ""] um... in which direction? GWB himself said something like 35K |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 8:46pm - the_reverend ""] Hoser NLI said:Too bad the liberal media doesn't publish the pictures of the gassed and dead that Saddam was responsible for. Instead they publish whatever they think could defame their President and Commander in Chief. It's a sick world that we live in. wrong, I've seen footage of those people.. guess where, on liberal bullshit media sites. oh and hoser, say hi to your governor baldacci for me. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 9:13pm - CarrotsandSticks ""] damnit, damnit....damnit |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 9:30pm - diamond_dave ""] Actually, after doing further research, maybe i was wrong. Here's a video of US freedom being spread through out Iraq. They are doing a good job of rebuilding and making things stable over there. http://www.iraqvictims.com/Video/special_action_iraq_victims.rm |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 9:38pm - Anthony nli ""] Hoser NLI said:Welcome to war, hippies. Instead of sitting here and whining about war, try being one of the troops that see that shit 1st hand. War sucks no matter how you cut the cards, and no American enjoys causing that kind of pain to children. It happens, get used to it. There will always be innocent casualties. There always has been, since the beginning of time. Too bad the liberal media doesn't publish the pictures of the gassed and dead that Saddam was responsible for. Instead they publish whatever they think could defame their President and Commander in Chief. It's a sick world that we live in. Do you honestly think that, in general, the 'liberal' media isn't on the side of the government? Who owns and controls nearly all media outlets (and certainly all mainstream ones)? Not liberal activists, that's for sure. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 10:00pm - the_reverend ""] [img] |
| _______________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 10:03pm - entangled in sludge ""] Its funny how people look down on such groups as cannibal corpse's lyrics while real live murder goes on everyday,war is never the answer,even after annilating a certain group of people,problems never cease. You can never kill off a certain group,and for those who think this certain war wasnt in vain,I ask you where the fuck is Osama? |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 11:21pm - PatMeebles ""] the_reverend said:um... in which direction? GWB himself said something like 35K When asking the question, the person said "including civilians, insurgents, military, and police." While it's sad that police and military iraqis have died, those are the people expected to fight the insurgents. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 11:29pm - DomesticTerror ""] Anthony nli said:Hoser NLI said:Welcome to war, hippies. Instead of sitting here and whining about war, try being one of the troops that see that shit 1st hand. War sucks no matter how you cut the cards, and no American enjoys causing that kind of pain to children. It happens, get used to it. There will always be innocent casualties. There always has been, since the beginning of time. Too bad the liberal media doesn't publish the pictures of the gassed and dead that Saddam was responsible for. Instead they publish whatever they think could defame their President and Commander in Chief. It's a sick world that we live in. Do you honestly think that, in general, the 'liberal' media isn't on the side of the government? Who owns and controls nearly all media outlets (and certainly all mainstream ones)? Not liberal activists, that's for sure. you mean Rupert Murdoch isn't liberal!??? who'da thunk... |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 11:30pm - the_reverend ""] liberal enough to buy myspace... |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 22,2005 11:32pm - DomesticTerror ""] i know...serious conflict of interest going on...next thing you know, Coors will buy RTTP. then i'm fucked |
| _____________________________________________________ [Dec 23,2005 12:14am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] We're getting off topic here... I'll help out. [img] |
| _________________________________ [Dec 23,2005 1:29am - DOMNLI ""] EAT BABY MEAT!!! |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 23,2005 1:41am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Those pictures would be a billion times better if they were North Korean kids getting their fucking faces melted off by radiation. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Dec 23,2005 6:23am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:North Korean kids getting their fucking faces melted off by radiation. That so happens to be my fetish. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 23,2005 8:34am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:North Korean kids getting their fucking faces melted off by radiation. That so happens to be my fetish. YOU TOO? So this is what it feels like...when doves cry. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Dec 23,2005 8:58am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 23,2005 9:42am - Hung_To_Bleed ""] ITS CALLED COLLATERAL DAMAGE. WHO's SIDE ARE YOU ON? [img] Dead babies suck, but in military terms, it is called colateral damage Is it American sharpshooters? American laser guided precision bombs? or the fucking rag head car bombers? [img] I Blame the car bombers |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 23,2005 9:50am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] [img] I thought this one was because the kid has a red afro, which sucks for him in that he'll never get any pussy but isn't related to the war. Then I saw the body below him. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 23,2005 11:34am - diamond_dave ""] Hung_To_Bleed said:ITS CALLED COLLATERAL DAMAGE. WHO's SIDE ARE YOU ON? Dead babies suck, but in military terms, it is called colateral damage Is it American sharpshooters? American laser guided precision bombs? or the fucking rag head car bombers? if you notice, i never said "look at these kids killed by americans." i said it's the cost of war. i don't know which "side" they were killed by, and i don't care. my point in this post is that war sucks, always, for everyone. it's never a solution. i know it's called collateral damage, and i know it happens in times of war. but i think that would be a little harder to accept if there were ever another war on our turf. these kids are people's children, and they certainly haven't done anything to deserve this. i don't know if any of you guys have kids, but i don't think you would find any solace in saying, "ah well it sucks, but you know, it's collateral damage." |