Black My Heart, attacks Tub Ring on stage[views:16671][posts:68]________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 12:01am - from smnnews ""] TUB RING have released the following explanation about the confrontation that took place between them and BLACK MY HEART at a recent show: Carmel, IN 3-11-2006 - Tub Ring plays last out of 6 bands. All are hardcore / straight edge. - Tub Ring sets last 35 minutes, no banter between songs, TR plays song to song to song, non-stop. NOTHING was said to the audience through the PA except right before TR starts playing... when jokingly TR remarks "you are going to need to listen to Elton John for a week to get all that hardcore out of your systems" - Tub Ring plays for about 20 minutes, as TR plays, members of all the opening hardcore bands gathering on both sides of the stage watching TR play. FULL bottles of water begin to be thrown @ TR by these band members, then... a metal lock box, then out of nowhere a HUGE barstool is hurled, which hits TR's guitarist JEFF, breaking the headstock off of his guitar. Another chair hits Rob in the head, and then smashes his keyboard up. - Tub Ring stops playing, and bassist Trevor follows fleeing hardcore band assailants out into the hall behind the stage. Trevor confronts a dozen or so band members - not knowing who had thrown the barstool... and asks "what was that all about, and who's paying for that guitar?" - he is met by numerous responses including "you talk SH*T about hardcore, that's what you get". Trevor is then HEADBUTTED by Wheeler (singer of "Black My Heart") leaving both of them with bleeding cuts. Trevor now needs stitches on his face. - All 5 hardcore bands begin to flee the scene, but thanks to a couple of quick thinking TR fans, their vans get boxed in the parking lot. Cops arrive & take pictures of the damage to Tub Ring's equipment and of Trevor's injuries, and Wheeler singer of "Black My Heart" is arrested and taken to jail. Nobody could confirm who actually had thrown the barstool which broke Tub Ring's equipment, but when asked all members of all 5 bands were heard to respond with comments such as "that's what you get for talking SH*T about hardcore" or "you're lucky the cops are here now or else we'd finish you off". if anyone wants to dispute this story, or wants to claim TR said ANYTHING @ all derogatory about any of the HC bands or the SE way of life from stage that night... we have video of the whole show available shot by a fan. Unfortunately the video did not have an angle which can identify the person who threw the barstool. Just a side note - when TR members asked the H/C band memebers "what did we say about H/C music that offended you?" - none of them even knew. None of them even brought up the Elton John statement, they all just said "we heard you were talking shit about H/C + S/E" |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 12:08am - davefromthegrave ""] 5 against 1. real tough guys. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 12:10am - brian_dc ""] that's the retarded gang mentality surrounding HC and SE for ya. sucks that equipment and faces got broken over people not getting a fucking joke. |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 12:21am - davefromthegrave ""] brian_dc said:that's the retarded gang mentality surrounding HC and SE for ya. sucks that equipment and faces got broken over people not getting a fucking joke. If the joke was the music you made, you wouldn't laugh either. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 12:28am - xTuffx ""] Wow, Black My Heart beating someone up? That's unheard of. Real typical, real lame. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 15,2006 12:45am - cav ""] OOOH THATS TUFF |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 12:51am - BornSoVile ""] I hope Alan is okay. lol |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 12:55am - brian_dc ""] davefromthegrave said:brian_dc said:that's the retarded gang mentality surrounding HC and SE for ya. sucks that equipment and faces got broken over people not getting a fucking joke. If the joke was the music you made, you wouldn't laugh either. I don't know...I'd get the joke in a metal context. If someone said the same thing at MDF about death metal if you take that as a jab at the genre, you are not bright. Get it...they had just listened to a lot of hardcore. Elton John's not hardcore...oh my god, harmless joke turned into throwing chairs, nevermind it totally makes sense now. |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 12:59am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] I thought Black My Heart were the backing band for Joan Jett. What are they doing at a hardcore concert? |
| __________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 1:00am - brian_dc ""] throwing waterbottles, barstools, and headbutting people named Trevor. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 1:00am - MarkFuckingRichards ""] what the fuck...i don't know who tub ring is, but i have respect for that one dude in the band who confronted 12 guys without doing stupid shit like black my heart and the rest of those dumbasses. black my heart must have napolean complexes all around. they're all either 5'4" or weigh 110 pounds, and their guitarist got beat to pulp by xmikex from this board with ease, hahaha. fucking retards. and why would tub ring talk shit about hardcore if they're playing a hardcore show and more than likely are hardcore or affiliated to the genre? |
| ________________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 3:19am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] i believe tub ring is x members of mr. bungle , i could be wrong though. if its the same band they do an excellent salsa version of that outkast song from a couple summers ago |
| _______________________________ [Mar 15,2006 11:12am - craz ""] What the fuck is wrong with these hardcore / sxe kids? Jesus it's a fucking joke. No too hardcore to laugh. I have no problem with hardcore music but it's shit like this that just pisses me off. Never hear of Tub Ring but props to Trevor for talking to these kids in a civilized manner instead of just fighting 12 people. I bet those kids felt like asses when he tore them a new one. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 11:14am - Messerschmitt ""] they're a bunch of niggazzzz |
| _______________________________ [Mar 15,2006 11:18am - craz ""] I guess so. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 11:21am - Beorht-Dana ""] Hardcore fans are the worst. It's like they all decided to de-evolve back into neanderthals or something. "Yeah, violence is totally the way to improve the scene." |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 11:22am - the_reverend ""] the funniest part of this post is that the band has keyboards. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 11:41am - RustedAngel ""] someone post a picture of the guitar player with a black eye who got his ass beat by our very own xmikex. |
| ____________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 11:42am - jared_the_zompire ""] "the funniest part of this post is that the band has keyboards." I'm glad I wasn't the only person that noticed that. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 3:33pm - dertoxia ""] [img] ....singer of Black My Heart being arrested |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 3:37pm - RichHorror ""] Black My Heart isn't hardcore. |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 3:40pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] HEY! I HEARD YOU GUYS WERE SHIT TALKING HXC, SXE, AND MXC! NOBODY DISSES GUY LADOUCHE ON MY WATCH! |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 3:48pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] THE FACE OF A TUFF GUY, YOU DO NOT WANT TO FUCK WITH THIS 8 FOOT TALL TWO TON FIST SMASHING MACHINE [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 3:49pm - RichHorror ""] Yes, hardcore is dead. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 4:01pm - sacreligion ""] is there a link to the video? |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 4:07pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] it is true that black my heart isn't hardcore. i don't think i want to acknowledge them as any type of music at all actually. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 4:08pm - sacreligion ""] it is true that all those bands are pussies |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 4:09pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] what sucks is that my friends burn in silence are touring with black my heart...they're all cool dudes, especially since 3 of them are in goratory. i know they wouldn't do any of that shit since they're not retards, but they'll probably get caught up in this for no reason |
| ____________________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 4:10pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] RustedAngel said:someone post a picture of the guitar player with a black eye who got his ass beat by our very own xmikex. hahah, I've seen that picture countless times, but I never knew it was xmikex who did it. Someone please explain this story or link to a thread that explains it. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 4:16pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] xmikex came up to me at the fallen friends benefit show at the palladium last may and gave me a brief rundown. i guess mike said he didn't like black my heart or something to that effect, then the guitarist from BMH started talking shit about mike. so mike beat the shit out of him in like 5 minutes, just to make an example out of him. hopefully mike will see this thread and give the whole story, cuz i'm sure i got something wrong, haha. mike shea, i salute you. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 4:17pm - sacreligion ""] this one time at a show in shrewsbury these emo kids were running around doing cartwheels and shit and one came by right in front of us and almost kicked me in the face so i told him he sucked...then some giant samoan and 40 14 year olds came out of the woodwork with bats and stuff good thing i wasn't angry...you wouldn't like me when i'm angry [img] |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 5:08pm - davefromthegrave ""] My fucking penis has a greater diameter than that guy's arms. I guess that steroid freak from the other thread must have stolen this guy's triceps or something. No wonder he had to try so hard to seem tougher than someone else. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 5:25pm - davefromthegrave ""] also, his hairstyle is gay. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 5:26pm - sacreligion ""] davefromthegrave said:also, his hairstyle is gay. that was hilarious |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 5:27pm - dreadkill ""] what a bunch of gayness. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 6:32pm - davefromthegrave ""] brian_dc said:davefromthegrave said:brian_dc said:that's the retarded gang mentality surrounding HC and SE for ya. sucks that equipment and faces got broken over people not getting a fucking joke. If the joke was the music you made, you wouldn't laugh either. I don't know...I'd get the joke in a metal context. If someone said the same thing at MDF about death metal if you take that as a jab at the genre, you are not bright. Get it...they had just listened to a lot of hardcore. Elton John's not hardcore...oh my god, harmless joke turned into throwing chairs, nevermind it totally makes sense now. what I was implying, is that the music those people make is a joke. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 6:54pm - brian_dc ""] whoops! I should've figured. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 7:29pm - anonymous ""] tub ring is gay who cares if they got beat up. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 7:30pm - anonymous ""] and i doubt they would feel like asses when that trevor guy confronted them, didn't het get his guitar broken and face smashed. Who really felt like the ass? |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 7:32pm - sacreligion ""] you because you're anonymous and stick up for pussies |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 9:04pm - anonymous ""] black clothes |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 9:06pm - davefromthegrave ""] anonymous said:tub ring is gay who cares if they got beat up. your momma does. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 9:34pm - ArrowHead nli ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said:i believe tub ring is x members of mr. bungle , i could be wrong though. Incorrect. Tub ring does have a very bungle-ish sound, but they're unrelated. The ex-bungle band you're thinking of is called Secret Chiefs, or Secret Chiefs 3 or something like that. |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 10:36pm - MCstillannoysme ""] I know a handfull of nasty real metal guys that would love to snap the spines of some of these puny hc/mc tough guys.. it's no contest. snap your fingers snap your neck! |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 15,2006 11:07pm - anonymous ""] MCstillannoysme said:I know a handfull of nasty real metal guys that would love to snap the spines of some of these puny hc/mc tough guys.. it's no contest. snap your fingers snap your neck! how does this have anything to do with metal? i'm pretty sure tub ring was not metal, homo.... |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 16,2006 12:37am - MarkFuckingRichards ""] i don't think he's implying it has anything to do with tub ring. it seems like a generalized statement. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 16,2006 1:20am - CTborderpatrol ""] brian_dc said:throwing waterbottles, barstools, and headbutting people named Trevor. http://trevorisunworthy.ytmnd.com/ |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 16,2006 2:38am - anonymous ""] stupid statement then, just because you sing about evil stuff doesn't mean you are actually evil and could hurt anyone..... jackass jncos are not cool anymore homos |
| _________________________________ [Mar 16,2006 11:04pm - xmikex ""] I'm not about to belch about who's hardcore, what's hardcore, and what it takes to be tough. What I will bring up is the fact that nonsense like this is a real nice way to get a venue shut down. Venues that will book hardcore/metal/whatever shows are tough to come by wherever you go. If you want to talk about respect for a form of music, how about some respect for the process. Somebody went to a great deal of trouble to book a show, promote it, and give bands a chance to play. Now that kid is liable, a venue is in jeopardy, and a shit example is set to the younger kids of that area who don't know anything about scarcity of venues, or what it takes to make things happen in hardcore (and who probably already think that everything should be handed to them). I'm not about to pass a judgement, I don't even know what happened, and by all logic I've got no right to an opinion here. But I've got to ask; Was it all really worth it to prove a point to "Tub Ring." No judgements, no insults. Bottom line: I've been around long enough to see the consequences of such actions first hand, certain other aforementioned people have not. Figure it out. And anyone who wants to know what happened with me and whatshisname are welcome to come see me in person and inquire. I'm not doing the messageboard thing..... and bring a blank VHS. p.s. I don't care that Tub Ring got beat up. |
| _________________________________________________ [Mar 16,2006 11:23pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] ArrowHead nli said:whiskey_weed_and_women said:i believe tub ring is x members of mr. bungle , i could be wrong though. Incorrect. Tub ring does have a very bungle-ish sound, but they're unrelated. The ex-bungle band you're thinking of is called Secret Chiefs, or Secret Chiefs 3 or something like that. hmm i was told they were they keyboard and horn section of bungle. i dont know i never looked into it too deeply after that, so you could ever well be right. and the song was Hey Yeah |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 17,2006 9:53am - Reality Check ""] If Tyler had something to do with a band getting beat for disrespecting "hardcore" then that's the worst thing I've ever heard. That kid will always be an emo loser, no matter how many wardrobe changes he goes through. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 17,2006 10:43am - danny p nli ""] trevor dunn was in mr bungle |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 16,2006 7:18pm - anonymous ""] The Trevor in Tub Ring is NOT Trevor Dunn. The only connection to Bungle is that Trey - the guitar player for Bungle produced one of Tub Rings albums. Get your facts right. |
| ________________________________________________ [Apr 16,2006 7:20pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] haha no |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 16,2006 7:54pm - anonymous ""] i like hardcore but stuff like this makes me sick...... beating someone up cause what they said (in this case it was what they thought they said) give me a break it makes me sick that people would fight over words not even an action, i can't believe i support these bands. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 17,2006 1:18pm - kenscanna ""] well dont support them then....and to confirm Tub Ring has no members of Mr Bungle |
| ______________________________ [Apr 17,2006 1:25pm - Yeti ""] you never hear much about shit like this at metal shows. you never hear about Magus Caliglia from Dark Funeral beating up Fenriz from Darkthrone or anything like that. stupid hardcore. |
| _______________________________________________ [Apr 17,2006 1:35pm - slowlypeelingtheflesh ""] Yeti said:you never hear much about shit like this at metal shows. you never hear about Magus Caliglia from Dark Funeral beating up Fenriz from Darkthrone or anything like that. stupid hardcore. No, but you hear about dudes from Mayhem eatting each others skulls |
| __________________________________ [Apr 17,2006 1:56pm - niccolai ""] xmikex said:I'm not about to belch about who's hardcore, what's hardcore, and what it takes to be tough. What I will bring up is the fact that nonsense like this is a real nice way to get a venue shut down. Venues that will book hardcore/metal/whatever shows are tough to come by wherever you go. If you want to talk about respect for a form of music, how about some respect for the process. Somebody went to a great deal of trouble to book a show, promote it, and give bands a chance to play. Now that kid is liable, a venue is in jeopardy, and a shit example is set to the younger kids of that area who don't know anything about scarcity of venues, or what it takes to make things happen in hardcore (and who probably already think that everything should be handed to them). I'm not about to pass a judgement, I don't even know what happened, and by all logic I've got no right to an opinion here. But I've got to ask; Was it all really worth it to prove a point to "Tub Ring." No judgements, no insults. Bottom line: I've been around long enough to see the consequences of such actions first hand, certain other aforementioned people have not. Figure it out. And anyone who wants to know what happened with me and whatshisname are welcome to come see me in person and inquire. I'm not doing the messageboard thing..... and bring a blank VHS. p.s. I don't care that Tub Ring got beat up. How about I bring two blank VHSs, give you one, and trade for the damn patch? |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 17,2006 3:34pm - intricateprocess ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:THE FACE OF A TUFF GUY, YOU DO NOT WANT TO FUCK WITH THIS 8 FOOT TALL TWO TON FIST SMASHING MACHINE [img] xmikex did that? he is honestly the superhero of this message board |
| ________________________________________ [Apr 19,2006 11:54pm - Night Ruiner ""] Hardcore and SXE = Jocks in punk's clothing. |
| ______________________________ [Apr 20,2006 1:56am - nick ""] Night Ruiner said:Hardcore and SXE = Jocks in punk's clothing. where have you been, going to hardcore shows these days is like going to a JV basketball tryout. its all basketball shorts, cut off t-shirts, basketball shoes, and baseball hats. |
| __________________________________ [Apr 20,2006 8:35am - niccolai ""] I don't know man, any hardcore shows I've been to as of late consist of K swiss, Redsocks hats, and fucking camo wu-wear. |
| ____________________________________ [Apr 25,2006 3:01pm - anonymous ""] I was at this show. As for the venue, it's in a stuck-up suburb of Indianapolis. For some reason Tub Ring was booked with 5 hxc bands. So a lot of us Tub Ring fans showed up in support because we knew they wouldn't be recieved well. The show was supposed to start aroun 7 and didn't until 8:30 or so. Tub Ring finally got to play at after midnight and the only people still there were Tub Ring fans out of some couple of a hundred people. We all had a good time and it was ruined by some angry jerk-offs. Not to say that it was because the were hxc or sxe who cares, I saw their band, they were not good. Tub Ring got into a situation that they did not ask for and were not informed on the type of venue they were playing at. Anyone who lives in Central Indiana know's CPAC=retarded stuck up scene hxc kids with no idea of what good music is. Somehow Tub Ring got booked there and I'm glad because the half hour they played was awesome. |
| ______________________________________________________ [Apr 25,2006 3:50pm - bring your xDANCING SHORTSx ""] nick said:Night Ruiner said:Hardcore and SXE = Jocks in punk's clothing. where have you been, going to hardcore shows these days is like going to a JV basketball tryout. its all basketball shorts, cut off t-shirts, basketball shoes, and baseball hats. its not basketball shorts its xDANCINGshortsx [img] |
| ______________________________ [Apr 25,2006 5:09pm - nick ""] bring your xDANCING SHORTSx said:nick said:Night Ruiner said:Hardcore and SXE = Jocks in punk's clothing. where have you been, going to hardcore shows these days is like going to a JV basketball tryout. its all basketball shorts, cut off t-shirts, basketball shoes, and baseball hats. its not basketball shorts its xDANCINGshortsx [img] christ im out of the loop. |
| __________________________________________ [Apr 25,2006 6:50pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] terrible |
| _____________________________________ [Apr 25,2006 10:32pm - anonymous ""] lmao. I think the guy WAS wearing those same shorts or at least something that said SXE. gawh |
| _______________________________ [Apr 26,2006 10:31am - Egon ""] The camo G*Unit look was so last year. Let's see: 1. Organized Dance Moves 2. Cliques 3. Fashion Trends 4. Act cool in groups / insecure when along Am I describing a High School cheerleader squad? Nope, just the hardcore scene. |