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wow, I might actually want to see this movie

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[Mar 17,2006 10:20am - HailTheLeaf ""]
Anarchism, Hollywood-Style

'V for Vendetta' is a pro-revolutionary, action-adventure romp that makes other political films look like 'Little House on the Prairie.'

http://www.alternet.org/movies/33579/
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[Mar 17,2006 10:33am - F.A.C.E. ""]
JUST DON'T ASK ME TO SEE IT WTH YOU
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[Mar 17,2006 10:37am - HailTheLeaf ""]
I bet it'll be more badass than the Matrix...
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[Mar 17,2006 10:38am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
I saw it last night. If you enjoyed the comic you will probably like the movie.
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[Mar 17,2006 10:42am - HailTheLeaf ""]
is it worth $10?
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[Mar 17,2006 10:56am - F.A.C.E. ""]
I think you could find a better way to spend $10, may be put it towards an exhaust fund.HA!
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[Mar 17,2006 10:58am - Moran NLI  ""]
I'd rather see Snakes on a Plane.
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[Mar 17,2006 11:01am - HailTheLeaf ""]
I think I'd rather dump money into my new car than waste $400 fixing the truck, screw the exhaust
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[Mar 17,2006 11:04am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
I saw it in IMAX and had free tickets...I enjoyed the movie for the most part, the performances were great and it was quite loyal to the graphic novel. There are a few flaws, but there usually are in these big budget flicks. The Wachowski brothers did a pretty good job, and it's based on an Alan Moore story...and the guy wrote the greatest comic book ever (Watchmen, which is also becoming a film).
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[Mar 17,2006 11:06am - RichHorror ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:and it's based on an Alan Moore story...and the guy wrote the greatest comic book ever (Watchmen, which is also becoming a film).


Yeah, and he isn't happy about it, either.
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[Mar 17,2006 11:07am - the_reverend ""]
I think carina and I are going to see it on sunday
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[Mar 17,2006 11:08am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
RichHorror said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:and it's based on an Alan Moore story...and the guy wrote the greatest comic book ever (Watchmen, which is also becoming a film).


Yeah, and he isn't happy about it, either.



About Watchmen? Neither am I, because there is no way they could improve upon perfection. Watchmen should just be left alone.
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[Mar 17,2006 11:08am - RichHorror ""]
Or about V for Vendetta. He's fighting mad.
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[Mar 17,2006 11:09am - RichHorror ""]
When it comes to campaigns of vengeance, a fracas between a writer of comics, his publisher and a movie producer is bound to be less cinematic than a scheme to blow up London's Houses of Parliament. Nevertheless, Alan Moore has been very vocal about his unhappiness with the new adaptation of V for Vendetta, his 1988 graphic novel about a future fascist Britain. Last weekend The New York Times reported on Moore's decision to not only remove his name from the movie's credits but -- as a shot at DC Comics and its corporate parent Time Warner -- have his name removed from every work controlled by his former publisher.

The cause of Moore's displeasure is not the movie itself. No, Moore was upset because producer Joel Silver claimed that Moore had given it his blessing. When DC Comics failed to get Silver to retract the remarks, which were based on a meeting with Moore when Silver optioned the material nearly two decades ago, Moore severed any relationship with the company. His reaction may seem out of proportion to the affront -- aren't movie producers expected to be creative with the facts? Yet it's easy to see why Moore has run out of patience when the system has been so cruel to his vivid and imaginative creations.

The British writer, who began his career as a cartoonist for British rock magazines in the late seventies, has long had a wary relationship with the film industry. For one thing, he has not written or collaborated on any of the screenplays -- unlike David Lloyd, V for Vendetta's illustrator who is credited as a writer on the film. As Moore once told the Guardian, "If someone's going to butcher my baby, I'd just rather it wasn't me." Including V for Vendetta, four of Moore's works have been made into movies. Another, Watchmen, has failed to make the jump despite innumerable attempts. Filmmakers have been consistently stymied by both the complexity of Moore's storytelling and his quintessentially English preoccupations.

From Hell (2001) was based on Moore's exhaustively researched inquiry into the mystery of Jack the Ripper. The filmmakers opted to present the story as a murky whodunit, disregarding Moore's wider examination of how societal conditions in 19th-century England set the stage for the Ripper's crimes and future atrocities. In the case of the 2003 adaptation of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen -- about the adventures of a crime-fighting team of fictional heroes including Allan Quartermain and Captain Nemo -- Moore's playful reimagining of the Victorian era's fantastic literature was lost amid a cacophony of explosions. The 2005 thriller Constantine was based on a character that Moore invented while writing Swamp Thing. It was Sting who inspired the image of demon-fighter John Constantine. He was played on screen by Keanu Reeves; in the words of Stan Lee, "nuff said." As for Watchmen, Moore's revered series about the murder of superheroes, the film project has been linked to Terry Gilliam, Darren Aronofsky and, most recently, Paul Greengrass.

Ironically, of all the movies based on Moore's comics, V for Vendetta is the most faithful. Though a work that was originally intended to demonize Thatcher's Britain now includes references to America's war on terror, it remains Moore's dark vision at its core. There's even a new scene in which a police inspector is given information by a mysterious gentleman who, with his unkempt, greying hair and long beard, bears a distinct resemblance to the now-uncredited author. However, if this hirsute figure is not intended as an homage to Moore, then Mick Fleetwood should sue.

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[Mar 17,2006 11:11am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Aaah...that's unfortunate. This is probably why they took his name off the titles but included David Lloyd (the artist). I thought that was strange.

A lot of writers feel this way, I can't say I blame them at all, but that's what happens when you sign your IP over to a corporation.

At least he can be happy that the Wachowski brothers (or brother and sister) gave it a more loyal treatment than so many other properties. It had a few problems but not once did I question whether these directors loved the material they were filming.

If Watchmen sucks, I will take arms.
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[Mar 17,2006 11:14am - RichHorror ""]
Agreed on Watchmen. That's tied with 'The Dark Knight Strikes Again' for greatest graphic novel ever.
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[Mar 17,2006 11:16am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
I loved the Dark Knight Returns and the Dark Knight Strikes Again both. I was kind of confused as to why so many comic fans hated Strikes Again, I thought it was brilliant, especially that part with the Green Lantern. After that I thought to myself "Why didn't he just do that in the first place?"
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[Mar 17,2006 11:19am - RichHorror ""]
Nothing beats Batman laying the smackdown on the Man of Steel.
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[Mar 17,2006 11:22am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Hahahah, the thing I love about Superman though, and I hate the character of Superman (Batman will always be my fave DC), but no matter how people portray that guy, in the end he will always save you, no matter what. And even though Batman gave him a well-deserved flogging, I kind of thought it actually ended up glorifying Superman (which is a nice twist).

Oh yeah, the promo for the Superman flick was at V for Vendetta, but there's not much to it.

Have you read Kingdom Come? Also great.
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[Mar 17,2006 11:23am - RichHorror ""]
No, I've heard a lot of rave reviews though. I really need to pick it up.

Welcome to www.returntothecomiccon.com
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[Mar 17,2006 11:26am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Did you read Batman: Thrillkiller? That was pretty interesting, Dan Brereton illustrated it and it was a pretty good match for his 60s glossy morbid comic style (like he used for some of the Rob Zombie paintings, etc). Story was nothing special but the art was great. The Joker was a butch, a hot one too.
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[Mar 17,2006 11:29am - RichHorror ""]
Interesting. I might have to read it like a bum at B&N, if not actually pick it up.
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[Mar 17,2006 11:34am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
It's definitely an 'art buy', the story isn't worth the $12.95. There are a bunch of those Batman Elseworlds titles, set in the parallel universes.

Kingdom Come is completely worth the price though. And Transmetropolitan, which I've proudly spent hundreds of dollars on (the trades).
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[Mar 17,2006 1:11pm - hungtableed  ""]
I bet it sucks dick. Big budget action films are gay
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[Mar 17,2006 1:21pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
It's not entirely an action film, there are a few fights.
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[Mar 17,2006 1:32pm - pisscup ""]
HailTheLeaf said:I think I'd rather dump money into my new car than waste $400 fixing the truck, screw the exhaust


Typical hypocritical hippie. Get out of your armchair and fix your exhaust. You are destroying the environment.
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[Mar 17,2006 4:24pm - HailTheLeaf ""]
No, I'd be destroying the environment by fixing it and continuing to drive it, instead I'm putting my new car on the road, and never buying gas again...
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[Mar 17,2006 4:46pm - scoracrasia ""]
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[Mar 17,2006 4:56pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Gawddamn shame.
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[Mar 17,2006 6:15pm - DomesticTerror ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:

Have you read Kingdom Come? Also great.



For some reason, Gog and Magog popped into my head today..weird.
You guys ever read Batman: The Long Halloween? I loved that. Gotta go dig it out now...


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