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[QUOTE="DrinkHardThrashHard:424152"]For the most part I agree with everything you say (even though my earlier post did say that I could see them as a borderline death metal band). There is definitely a strain of death metal that carried forth the over the top Satanic imagery and lyrics that Venom brought to the table (and Black Widow, Sabbath, Kiss, and others before them). First into Possessed, Hellhammer, etc like you mention and then on into 5 million other bands (Necrophobic, Vital Remains, etc). But even listening back to the first two albums right here on my PC, the music has a far more evident pentatonic blues chord base with a lot of 70s hard rock riff flair, some of the tunes were simply NWOBHM style but with a filthy, aggressive production. Whereas when you got into 'Scream Bloody Gore' it was pure speed picking and power chords, not to mention Death, Slayer and Possessed (and by extension Onslaught, Sarcofago, etc) had far creepier chord progressions that are truly iconic to what I view as 'death metal' simply because that is when it came into creation. Retrospectively, arguments could be made that Venom, and even Sabbath and Metallica, and other bands are in fact prototype death metal (certainly through some of their lyrical concepts). I just have the perspective of growing up entirely to metal music, so I have a tendency to stick with the classifications that were originally there before people even threw around terms like 'black metal' and 'death metal'. I think also death metal solidified itself with the more guttural vocal style, that's an important factor we shouldn't overlook. Basically, Venom was such an early and revolutionary band that they influenced almost ALL metal from thereon. Can we agree to that? But if some kid comes over and says, "You old bastard, what is this....this death metal" I am going to throw in Mallevs Malifecarvm, Consuming Impulse, Scream Bloody Gore, Leprosy, Seven Churches, Left Hand Path, Nocturnal Silence, Realm of Chaos, Altars of Madness, etc. I'm not going to play him Welcome to Hell. Because he probably won't be ready to get that yet :)[/QUOTE]
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