Death Metal Jazz????[views:18796][posts:53]__________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 1:42pm - metalguy ""] This is a long shot but I am gonna try anyways. I want to start a new Death Metal project that is a little different. And I already have the sound thought out. But I need to find people kinda unique. Desired Inspirations Cannibal Corpse Pat Metheny Carcass John Coltrane Wormed Miles Davis I am going for a fusion of Death Metal and Jazz if you haven't already figured it out. I have a MIDI demonstrating my idea if you want to email me for it. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 1:48pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Don't forget Cynic and Atheist. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 1:57pm - DreamingInExile ""] Demilich anyone? |
| _____________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:07pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] und Pestilence, und 'Obscura' by GorGUTs. Edit: not Gorgasm. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:12pm - JazzMetal?! ""] that band red tide was kinda like that also, watchtower! even believer! |
| _____________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:22pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] A little Believer, yep. Watchtower. Spastic Inc. And so on. Those weren't really death metal, but hey. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:26pm - Revocation ""] Martyr from Canada have some jazz/fusion influences people should definatey check them out. Dan Mongrain is one of the best guitarists in metal right now. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:28pm - davefromthegrave ""] www.myspace.com/corphagy It might not be exactly what you're looking for, but it's goddamn cool. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:39pm - Josh_Martin ""] Naked City and Painkiller already did this 15 years ago. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:43pm - Josh_Martin ""] [img] 1. Blood is Thin. (1:00) 2. Demon Sanctuary. (0:38) 3. Thrash Jazz Assassin. (0:45) 4. Dead Spot. (0:31) 5. Bonehead. (0:51) 6. Speedball. (0:37) 7. Blood Duster. (0:13) 8. Pile Driver. (0:33) 9. Shangkuan Ling-Feng. (1:14) 10. Numbskull. (0:29) 11. Perfume Of A Critic's Burning Flesh. (0:24) 12. Jazz Snob Eat Shit. (0:24) 13. The Prestidigitator. (0:43) 14. No Reason To Believe. (0:26) 15. Hellraiser. (0:39) 16. Torture Garden. (0:35) 17. Slan. (0:23) 18. Hammerhead. (0:08) 19. The Ways Of Pain. (0:31) 20. The Noose. (0:10) 21. Sack Of Shit. (0:43) 22. Blunt Instrument. (0:53) 23. Osaka Bondage. (1:14) 24. Igneous Ejaculation. (0:20) 25. Shallow Grave. (0:40) 26. Ujaku. (0:27) 27. Kaoru. (0:50) 28. Dead Dread. (0:45) 29. Billy Liar. (0:10) 30. Victims Of Torture. (0:22) 31. Speedfreaks. (0:29) 32. New Jersey Scum Swamp. (0:41) 33. S & M Sniper. (0:14) 34. Pigfucker. (0:23) 35. Cairo Chop Shop. (0:22) 36. Fuck The Facts. (0:11) 37. Obeah Man. (0:17) 38. Facelifter. (0:34) 39. N.Y. Flat Top Box. (0:43) 40. Whiplash. (0:19) 41. The Blade. (0:36) 42. Gob Of Spit. (0:18) Joey BARON: drums Yamatsuka EYE: vocals Bill FRISELL: guitar Fred FRITH: bass Wayne HORVITZ: keyboards John ZORN: alto sax |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:51pm - Josh_Martin ""] [img] 1. Scud Attack. (3:07) 2. Deadly Obstacle Collage. (0:21) 3. Damage to the Mask. (2:43) 4. Guts of a Virgin. (1:19) 5. Handjob. (0:10) 6. Portent. (4:00) 7. Hostage. (2:24) 8. Lathe of God. (0:56) 9. Dr. Phibes. (3:00) 10. Purgatory of Fiery Vulvas. (0:26) 11. Warhead. (1:12) 12. Devil's eye. (4:37) Mick HARRIS: drums Bill LASWELL: bass John ZORN: alto sax |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:52pm - RichHorror ""] Naked City is fucking awesome. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:55pm - JazzMetal?! ""] i saw naked city once, very very interesting group. the guitarist was like 50 years old and the drummer, whoa, the guy is incredible bald drummer! when i saw them they all had like music stands in front of them and were reading the music or something. that japanese guy was nuts! and the guy on the sax was crazy himself! |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:56pm - RichHorror ""] John Zorn is from another planet. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:57pm - animalrampage ""] Good to see other people into this kind of thing Naked City changed my life Anyone into them, Painkiller, etc. has got to check out Skerik's Syncopated Taint Septet and Electric Masada's At The Mountains of Madness theres a tune called "Metal Tov" that is the newest incarnation of Zorn's demonic side http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/...3/a/At+The+Mountains+Of+Madness.htm http://www.syncopatedtaint.com/themusic.html |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 2:57pm - notorious_D.U.G. ""] DrinkHardThrashHard said:und Pestilence, und 'Obscura' by Gorgasm. It's Gorguts broseph. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 3:09pm - Revocation ""] The only Naked City album I really liked was Radio everything else is a little too cracked out for me. But yeah Radio is awesome. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 3:10pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] notorious_D.U.G. said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:und Pestilence, und 'Obscura' by Gorgasm. It's Gorguts broseph. Eh, my bad, I'll fix it. I hate Gorgasm. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 3:10pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Josh_Martin said:[img] 1. Blood is Thin. (1:00) 2. Demon Sanctuary. (0:38) 3. Thrash Jazz Assassin. (0:45) 4. Dead Spot. (0:31) 5. Bonehead. (0:51) 6. Speedball. (0:37) 7. Blood Duster. (0:13) 8. Pile Driver. (0:33) 9. Shangkuan Ling-Feng. (1:14) 10. Numbskull. (0:29) 11. Perfume Of A Critic's Burning Flesh. (0:24) 12. Jazz Snob Eat Shit. (0:24) 13. The Prestidigitator. (0:43) 14. No Reason To Believe. (0:26) 15. Hellraiser. (0:39) 16. Torture Garden. (0:35) 17. Slan. (0:23) 18. Hammerhead. (0:08) 19. The Ways Of Pain. (0:31) 20. The Noose. (0:10) 21. Sack Of Shit. (0:43) 22. Blunt Instrument. (0:53) 23. Osaka Bondage. (1:14) 24. Igneous Ejaculation. (0:20) 25. Shallow Grave. (0:40) 26. Ujaku. (0:27) 27. Kaoru. (0:50) 28. Dead Dread. (0:45) 29. Billy Liar. (0:10) 30. Victims Of Torture. (0:22) 31. Speedfreaks. (0:29) 32. New Jersey Scum Swamp. (0:41) 33. S & M Sniper. (0:14) 34. Pigfucker. (0:23) 35. Cairo Chop Shop. (0:22) 36. Fuck The Facts. (0:11) 37. Obeah Man. (0:17) 38. Facelifter. (0:34) 39. N.Y. Flat Top Box. (0:43) 40. Whiplash. (0:19) 41. The Blade. (0:36) 42. Gob Of Spit. (0:18) Joey BARON: drums Yamatsuka EYE: vocals Bill FRISELL: guitar Fred FRITH: bass Wayne HORVITZ: keyboards John ZORN: alto sax That is definitely my fave NC record. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 3:22pm - Anthony nli ""] Sleep Terror |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 3:24pm - animalrampage ""] What's Sleep Terror a band? an album? |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 3:27pm - davefromthegrave ""] this thread rocks |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 3:32pm - DreamingInExile ""] Anthony nli said:Sleep Terror agreed: http://www.myspace.com/sleepterror it's one guy and he's insane on guitar, like BEYOND technical :bow: |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 3:33pm - Anthony nli ""] animalrampage said:What's Sleep Terror a band? an album? its a band from northern CA. Just a guitarist and drummer, no vox. The guitarist also plays bass on the records. When I first heard them I was like "oh my god, best shit EVER!" But, I have alot of their recordings now and they don't have as much impact on me anymore. every song kinda follows the same formula. They have wicked technical parts (kinda slammy DM style) and then jazz parts that trade off back and forth. Every song is like that. It is definitely amazing, though, check it out. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 3:36pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Eh, I couldn't get into it. The 'jazz' parts sound like the very worst instrumental record guitar masturbators of the 80s, or failures at Mr. Bungle/Naked City kookiness, some of the death/thrash riffs would be cool in a band with some vocals and songwriting. Gotta agree with Anthony that it's a little formulaic. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 3:42pm - animalrampage ""] Wow Sleep Terror Kills. I wish they were coming to Mass on their tour I would love to see that stuff live. Does Gorguts do a lot of jazz-influenced stuff or is it just one or two tracks to check out? |
| _____________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 3:45pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Just that one record Gorguts record "Obscura" was really strange, and contains some abstract jazz concepts. Their early albums were straight up death metal. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 3:48pm - GoatOfCatalyst ""] all us Catalyst dudes are HUGE Naked City fans. Our guitarist, Beard, has a Zorn tattoo on his taint. |
| ______________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 4:41pm - Infant_Skin_Suitcase ""] GoatOfCatalyst said:all us Catalyst dudes are HUGE Naked City fans. Our guitarist, Beard, has a Zorn tattoo on his taint. that is badass! |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 4:45pm - BornSoVile ""] PAVOR |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 5:41pm - animalrampage ""] Sleep Terror, Pavor and Gorguts are all Jazz influenced death while Skerik and others are Death influenced jazz but I think Zorn is the only one that created a balanced mix |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 5:47pm - BornSoVile ""] My hard on for DEMILICH still hasn't gone down. |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 5:59pm - KeithMutiny ""] death metal and jazz huh... didnt they alreayd do that? oh yea they did, its called GRIND. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 7:38pm - animalrampage ""] metalguy said:This is a long shot but I am gonna try anyways. I want to start a new Death Metal project that is a little different. And I already have the sound thought out. But I need to find people kinda unique. Desired Inspirations Cannibal Corpse Pat Metheny Carcass John Coltrane Wormed Miles Davis I am going for a fusion of Death Metal and Jazz if you haven't already figured it out. I have a MIDI demonstrating my idea if you want to email me for it. These are all amazing groups. Metheny bores me to death though. You would like this group called The Dead Kenny G's. I really can't wait for everyone that has commented to hear Animal Rampage. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 7:49pm - dwellingsickness ""] no one mentioned HUMAN REMAINS.. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 14,2006 8:03pm - nate ""] Virulence from Boston had a shitload of jazzy bass lines. I still miss this band! |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 8:17pm - intricateprocess ""] listen to John Zorn Naked City |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 8:18pm - dwellingsickness ""] nate said:Virulence from Boston had a shitload of jazzy bass lines. I still miss this band! yea, they were awesome |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 10:28pm - metalguy ""] Wow guys... wasn't looking for musical recommendations hahahahahaha.. But yea.. thanks..... anyways? |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 10:39pm - metalguy ""] On to the music!!! I have heard Naked City and that is definitely not the sound I am going for here. Think more along the lines of heavy use of symetrical scales over chord changes. Lots of swing during slams. Altered chords and half diminished chords rule here. For a vocals I had in mind someone who can do everything. From manic screams to Frank Sinatra esque singing. (Don't forget the sick gutterals)More or less inspired by bungle. All that shit guys posted is really good. But it really has nothing to do with the sound I am going for. Think more along the lines of Pysopus mixed with Necrophagist.... not really though.. :-\ |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 10:44pm - BornSoVile ""] KeithMutiny said:death metal and jazz huh... didnt they alreayd do that? oh yea they did, its called GRIND. I don't hear any Jazz on my Terrorizer and Repulsion cds!! |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 11:03pm - Seedbassist NLI ""] Cynic - Focus Athiest - Unquestionable Presence I think we're good to go |
| _____________________________________ [Jun 14,2006 11:05pm - BornSoVile ""] Seedbassist NLI said:Cynic - Focus Athiest - Unquestionable Presence I think we're good to go This is true. |
| _____________________________________________ [Jun 15,2006 1:00am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] No jazz is necessary on a Repulsion CD. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 15,2006 1:38am - GoatOfCatalyst ""] if you can hang with the vocals, WATCHTOWER and PSYCHOTIC WALTZ are fucking incredible musically |
| _____________________________________________ [Jun 15,2006 1:47am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Right, but again, they are not death metal jazz. They are more like prog metal jazz. Watchtower is fucking badass, and I've been listening to them for like 18 years now. You NEED to track down Spastic Ink if you like Watchtower, it has some of the same guys and they just go completely batshit. |
| _______________________________________ [Jun 15,2006 4:07pm - animalrampage ""] Metalguy send me the track at funkycantor@gmail.com |
| ___________________________________________________ [Jun 15,2006 4:46pm - babyshaker not logged in ""] sleep terror is so good he had a nasty drummer for awhile to but i guess its back to just him again...free form jazz and death metal rocks |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 15,2006 4:49pm - BornSoVile ""] I was booking Sleep Terror but they never got back to me with once I had a club and they just so happened to book something in NYC that night too. |
| _______________________________________ [May 19,2007 1:12pm - animalrampage ""] An Albatross's Blessphemy is pushing the envelope a bit |
| ___________________________________________ [May 19,2007 2:15pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] Where can I find audio samples of Torture Garden and Pain Killer? |
| ___________________________________________ [May 19,2007 2:20pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] wow.. and i just checked out Cynic for the first time. I can't beleve I wasn't aware of these guys. really impressed. |
| _________________________________ [May 19,2007 5:58pm - Anthny ""] FuckIsMySignature said:wow.. and i just checked out Cynic for the first time. I can't beleve I wasn't aware of these guys. really impressed. yeah man some of the best music ever made with gitter, bass and drums, in my opinion. If you don't dig the robot vocals, they're not on the demos, which I happen to prefer. The 89 and 90 demos are the best. |
| ____________________________________ [May 19,2007 8:50pm - fleshfries ""] Alan. Holdsworth. |