Your thoughts on Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth[views:7850][posts:43]________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 2:40pm - xmikex ""] I hate Al Gore. I really do. But when I heard he did a "documentary" on a worthwhile topic I wasn't sure what to think. Has anyone actually seen this thing? I can tell you straight up I'm not paying to see it no matter what. I already wasted that $10 on Farenheit 9/11. It just seems like it's an attention grabbing stunt that's typical of Gore. Also Colbert made fun of it to no end, and called it a powerpoint presentation. Anyone have an opinion on this? Oh, and this was prompted by last night's episode of South Park where Al Gore hunts Manbearpig. I'm totally cereal. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 2:43pm - the_reverend ""] that made me want to see it to. I ain't seen it. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 2:59pm - brian_dc ""] remember that in general, Colbert makes fun of things in a sarcastic manner. But yeah, I haven't seen it either...thus, the extent of my thoughts. I totally saved everybody. Everyone is totally digging on me, even if they don't know it. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 27,2006 3:17pm - Yeti ""] i am weary about it as well. you are probably right, its most likely just misconstrued information molded into a piece of "shocking" propaganda. i have a difficult time buying into this whole "earth crisis" bullshit, i mean he may present stunning information that could spell out ultimate doom, but then again so did Michael Moore with Farenheit 9/11. its an easy way for him to mislead the public into believing things are way worse than they are, and presenting a mediocre "solution" that in a time of despair seems otherwise brilliant. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 3:24pm - Beaver McD ""] I heard on the radio once that Al Gore has a house of chicken and ribs in the south. I don't know if that was just rumor, but i heard after he lost running for president he started one. |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 3:26pm - anonymous ""] the majority of goons who saw 'farenheit 9/11' liked it because they felt marginally intellectual afterwards. ok, bush sucks, i get it. why would anyone see that movie? to further justify saying 'bush sucks', to feign political interest, and to say 'look at me. i watch smurt documentaries.' when they know, THEY KNOW they'd rather be watching 'juwanna man' with a 6 pack. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 3:44pm - Josh_Martin ""] xmikex said:Oh, and this was prompted by last night's episode of South Park where Al Gore hunts Manbearpig. I'm totally cereal. What was the deal with that "cereal" thing. Did Gore actually say that or were the Southpark guys just being goofy? |
| ________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 4:02pm - xmikex ""] Josh_Martin said:xmikex said:Oh, and this was prompted by last night's episode of South Park where Al Gore hunts Manbearpig. I'm totally cereal. What was the deal with that "cereal" thing. Did Gore actually say that or were the Southpark guys just being goofy? Al Gore uses the word "serial" (The closed captioner captioned every occurrence of this word in the episode as "cereal") in place of "seriously/serious". This is in reference to his gaffe on The Oprah Winfrey Show when he was asked for his favorite cereal and his answer was "Oprah", mistaking the word "cereal" for serial. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 5:39pm - NickReddy ""] This was really really good. Come to the coolidge theater in brookline on tuesday, wednesday, or thursday evening and i'll hook you up for fr33. its really worth seeing. -Jonah.. not nick |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 5:47pm - hungtableed ""] The liberal accusations of the causes of global warming are a crock of crap. This earth has seen numerous ice ages that have thawed out as well...it's a cycle and we shouldn't be too surprised at any climate changes because it is inevitable. Al Whore is just making a stink about anything that the cool aide drinkers will buy into to feed his inferiority complex he has developed since losing to Bush. |
| _____________________________ [Jul 27,2006 6:12pm - mOe ""] i heard he showed up in a caravan of SUV's and limos to the premier |
| _________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 6:13pm - tbone_r ""] crap on Al Gore all you want, but if it wasn't for him you'd have no choice but to talk shit to peoples faces. seriously though, could al gore have had an easier time getting elected? people loved bill clinton. if al gore wasn't 50% robot he would have been a shoe-in. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 6:58pm - hungtableed ""] tbone_r said:crap on Al Gore all you want, but if it wasn't for him you'd have no choice but to talk shit to peoples faces. right.... because Al Whole created the internet...I remember it all now.... |
| _______________________________ [Jul 27,2006 6:59pm - Troll ""] This sorry ass country will make him President...just you watch. Fear him more than Bush. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 27,2006 7:02pm - Troll ""] Oh, and after you fear him.... ...Go here this weekend. [img] |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 7:04pm - ct borderpatrol ""] its probably a whitewashumentary like moores vids. theres something goin on when my parents generation got to play in 4' of snow and dug tunnels when now we're lucky if we get 4" on every storm. i want the days of HUGE blizzards and entire states shutting down to come back |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 9:31pm - BornSoVile ""] i saw it. the powerpoint presentation comment is basically true. because the entire film is him giving the presentation to several glossy college audiences around the country. he doesn't hide it though, he talks alot about how he's down 1000's of them throughout the world, so naturally they show him around the world too. as far as information goes and the overall presentation, it's not that bad, powerful facts, well approached, coherent dialouge etc. You can see where law school helps with shaping powerful politicians. What drags on the film and hurts it is that at times, is Gore coming with a somewhat egotistic suave that trys to hard to make the viewer form a personal attactment with him (talking about his son hit by a car, working the farm as a kid, shit like that). On the poster it says, "The Most Terrifying Movie You'll Ever See", on some levels, it's true, but overall it fails dramatically (what a shock) simply because they steered clear of tapping into the countless apocalyptic scenarios that could happen. Instead he talks about Manhattan and Florida getting flooded and how the bark beetle is causing forest fires. I felt they should rolled with that a little more, but most likely they didn't because they didn't want the debunkers coming back with claims of scare tactic propaganda or whatever. watch it though, make up your own mind. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 9:42pm - the_reverend ""] anyone that doesn't believe in global warming at this point should probably also join the flat earth society. gore is gay, but big fat douche or a stupid turd, which do you like best? |
| ________________________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 9:47pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] if theres a late movie i might go see this tonight |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 9:58pm - hungtableed ""] the_reverend said:anyone that doesn't believe in global warming at this point should probably also join the flat earth society. gore is gay, but big fat douche or a stupid turd, which do you like best? I'm not of the opinion that global isn't happening, however, it being a issue that fat douche politicians think they can prevent or at the very least have the slightest impact in preventing is almost laughable. Like I said, we have learned that this earth has gone through numerous ice ages that had in time thawed out through no other possible means other than the earth warming up. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 10:02pm - the_reverend ""] well, d'uh.. but the warming up from ice ages takes 1000s of years and the heat is coming from the position of the earth around the sun on a 10K year cycle. not from under 100 years of dip shit spreading 10mpg down the highways cause their ass is too fat to wattle 1/4 mile to mcdonalds. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 10:09pm - the_reverend ""] also, if the politicians can't stop global warming who can? wouldn't it make sense if the people in power are the ones who affect the change? we are all guity of complicity in this. I hardly ever recycle cause is doing help my fat ass get fatter. I also drive alone everywhere (albiet in a hybrid). right now, I have 3 computers on at home (one of which I haven't touched for probably 4 months), my ps2's been pause for months. etc..etc...etc.. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 10:20pm - litacore ""] we must stop Man Bear Pig |
| _______________________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 10:25pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Why can't we go back to a simpler time when the only issue in Washington was "Women:Should they be able to vote and own property or not?" |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 27,2006 10:28pm - the_reverend ""] or white stains on dresses. |
| _________________________________________________ [Jul 28,2006 12:11am - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] just got back thought it was a good movie some of the parts where Gore brings his life into the movie were kind of dragged out but i still think the over all flow of the movie was good and it was done so dulled down that even someone as dumb as someone who grew up in Texas could flow it. god save the queen. |
| ________________________________ [Jul 28,2006 8:32am - xmikex ""] He's half man half bear No he's half man half bear half pig How's that even possible Maybe he's half bear half manpig. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 28,2006 8:44am - the_reverend ""] "I don’t know if he’s gay. But Al Gore — total fag." |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 28,2006 9:14am - CaptainCleanoff ""] [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 29,2006 9:50pm - xanonymousx ""] i haven't seen this movie probably never will |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 30,2006 10:13am - ShadowSD ""] Come on dude, you know you want to see a slideshow. |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 30,2006 11:08am - JonahBloodbath ""] "The liberal accusations of the causes of global warming are a crock of crap. This earth has seen numerous ice ages that have thawed out as well...it's a cycle and we shouldn't be too surprised at any climate changes because it is inevitable. Al Whore is just making a stink about anything that the cool aide drinkers will buy into to feed his inferiority complex he has developed since losing to Bush." He spends a few minutes talking about why this isn't true. Anyway, I already said I'll let any of you tool bags in for free, so no excuses. Watch the movie and come back here and say this shit isn't a big deal. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 30,2006 11:26am - the_reverend ""] but then they would be brain washed into liberal-hippie-treehuggers who smell of safron and curriander |
| _______________________________ [Jul 30,2006 11:33am - Yeti ""] JonahBloodbath said: Anyway, I already said I'll let any of you tool bags in for free, so no excuses. Watch the movie and come back here and say this shit isn't a big deal. people said the same thing about Farenheit 9/11. its all just sensationalist claims taken out of context. its easy to swoon armageddon mongers when you shove one sided disaster laden information down their throats. i was listening to some douchebag claiming that the heat of this summer and the intensity of the thunderstorms is due to global warming. we've had heat waves for as long as i am capable of remembering. remember that year that it got so hot that cows and chickens were exploding? its all just weary conservatives blowing smoke out of their asses. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 30,2006 12:29pm - Dankill ""] So, how about that John McCain, eh? |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 30,2006 1:09pm - HailTheLeaf ""] the_reverend said:well, d'uh.. but the warming up from ice ages takes 1000s of years and the heat is coming from the position of the earth around the sun on a 10K year cycle. not from under 100 years of dip shit spreading 10mpg down the highways cause their ass is too fat to wattle 1/4 mile to mcdonalds. yep, natually it takes thousands of years to cause the amount of warming that the industrial revolution and an addiction to oil has caused in 150. I haven't seen the movie, I've already been scared shitless about this topic for years and find Gore to be as boring as a stump. Hopefully others will see it and start to question their lifestyles and the effects they cause on all life on earth. Some people seem to have a mental problem whereby they assume that they are the only thing on earth that matters and everything else is expendable. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jul 31,2006 9:08am - Man_of_the_Century ""] To the all the people that believe global warning is caused by humans... What is the piece of evidence that disproves natural causes? There is a lot of evidence that points to people, and a lot that points to a natural shift. Science doesn't have the information yet to throw out one or the other. If you look at reports put out by the scientific community, 95% of them won't say one or the other. They'll say they believe one side more, but its not 100% proven. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 31,2006 12:37pm - ShadowSD ""] If you found a lump on yourself, and the doctors couldn't prove 100% that it wasn't cancerous, would you be more inclined to play it safe and ask them to continue looking into it, or would you tell people to stop worrying because regardless of whether the doctors believe it's more likely to be malignant, it's not 100% proven? In matters of survival, erring on the side of caution is only common sense. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 31,2006 12:43pm - Yeti ""] i definitely dont disagree with the idea to thwart the "crisis", but to sling this crap around as if its impending doom about to befall the world in a year is a bit absurd. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 31,2006 12:51pm - ShadowSD ""] Anyone who says the world is ending in a year is an idiot. However, if someone is making the argument that there's a limited amount of time we have left to change things before we pass a point of no return, that's much more realistic. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jul 31,2006 1:48pm - Man_of_the_Century ""] ShadowSD said:If you found a lump on yourself, and the doctors couldn't prove 100% that it wasn't cancerous, would you be more inclined to play it safe and ask them to continue looking into it, or would you tell people to stop worrying because regardless of whether the doctors believe it's more likely to be malignant, it's not 100% proven? In matters of survival, erring on the side of caution is only common sense. It wouldn't be such an easy answer... Lets say that its a dark spot on my skin that's in question. Let them cut it off. One one side, if it is cancer it would cause big problems down the road. The other is a slight chance of infection and a scab. Now, if that lump was on my heart, it wouldn't be so easy. If they went to take it out, that would involve open-heart surgury, heavy blood loss... an overall chance of death. Then, I would wait till I knew more. It would also depend on what the chances are that it is something else. That is the message. You have 49% chance it is human caused, 49% chance its natural, and 2% chance its something undiscovered. Its not like its 99% human and 1% other things. I'm not opposed to doing minor things to start off with... Like better emissions in cars, cleaner fuel, better processes to making products. The things I don't want to see till a cause can be agreed apon are things like eliminating oil without something to replace it. That is not a good answer to the problem, and will cause way more problems than just some warm weather. I also don't like someone like Gore telling me that things have to change now or the planet will self-destruct before the year 2007. Like the cancer thing, I will listen to the direct opinion of the doctor, not the guy next to me in the waiting room, who has no experiance in the field. |
| __________________________________________ [Jul 31,2006 1:48pm - SinisterMinister ""] Don't be surprised when Florida and the entire Gulf Coast get washed up within ten years. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 31,2006 2:05pm - ShadowSD ""] Man_of_the_Century said:ShadowSD said:If you found a lump on yourself, and the doctors couldn't prove 100% that it wasn't cancerous, would you be more inclined to play it safe and ask them to continue looking into it, or would you tell people to stop worrying because regardless of whether the doctors believe it's more likely to be malignant, it's not 100% proven? In matters of survival, erring on the side of caution is only common sense. It wouldn't be such an easy answer... Lets say that its a dark spot on my skin that's in question. Let them cut it off. One one side, if it is cancer it would cause big problems down the road. The other is a slight chance of infection and a scab. Now, if that lump was on my heart, it wouldn't be so easy. But, to follow the analogy, removing this lump does not require heart surgery; there is no fatal threat to the earth if we try to make things better. The only liability to changing our policies is financial, which I think is comparable to not wanting to pay the doctor to keep looking if he's not 100% sure that the cancer is malignant. Despite the fact that you and I are more reasonable, there are plenty of people out there who would put their own greed over all of our survival; many people can go a lifetime purely on denial, rationalization, and self-delusion. Man_of_the_Century said:I'm not opposed to doing minor things to start off with... Like better emissions in cars, cleaner fuel, better processes to making products. The things I don't want to see till a cause can be agreed apon are things like eliminating oil without something to replace it. I agree with you on all of that. (Although I wasn't aware that eliminating oil before we have alternatives was seriously being argued by anyone substantial in this debate, and it's certainly not the position of the scientific school of thought that believes humans are a cause of global warming.) Man_of_the_Century said:I also don't like someone like Gore telling me that things have to change now or the planet will self-destruct before the year 2007. Like the cancer thing, I will listen to the direct opinion of the doctor, not the guy next to me in the waiting room, who has no experiance in the field. I haven't seen this movie yet, and I've never liked Gore, but the doctors in our analogy are actually much more comparable to scientists, most of whom believe it is more likely that we are a partial cause of a global warming (even if they can't prove it). |
| ____________________________________________ [Jul 31,2006 2:44pm - Man_of_the_Century ""] ShadowSD said:But, to follow the analogy, removing this lump does not require heart surgery; there is no fatal threat to the earth if we try to make things better. The only liability to changing our policies is financial, which I think is comparable to not wanting to pay the doctor to keep looking if he's not 100% sure that the cancer is malignant. It didn't fit the analogy too well, but I was refering to the complications it would (or could) cause for the people of the world, especially those that can't afford it. ShadowSD said:(Although I wasn't aware that eliminating oil before we have alternatives was seriously being argued by anyone substantial in this debate, and it's certainly not the position of the scientific school of thought that believes humans are a cause of global warming.) That wasn't a point for you, it was for those that have mentioned that in the past. |