Dissection vocalist killed himslef. Jon Nödtveidt 1975-2006[views:65329][posts:161]__________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 6:56pm - pam nli ""] Suicide is selfish and retarded. You disagree, feel free to do it. Religion is also stupid. Have fun at your rituals. :middlefinger: |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 6:57pm - DomesticTerror ""] "I'm going away for a long, long time. I'm going to Transylvania." If those were his last words to somebody, then I'm glad this doorknob is dead. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 7:01pm - powerkok ""] I thought the same thing when I read that. Pretty silly. OOOh hes gonna be a vampire.....a hongry polite, vampiiiiire. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 7:04pm - pam nli ""] powerkok said:Fuck Josh Martin in his filthy cunt, and anyone like him. I beg Josh to say shit to my face. I like you more and more each day. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 7:06pm - powerkok ""] Hey, what can I say....I do my best. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 7:15pm - brian_dc ""] Loved The Somberlain and Storm of the Nightsbane and the Early Years thing. Can't feel bad when a) The guy helped kill a person seemingly motivated purely by homophobia and b) He wanted to die by his own philosophy. I could say more, but it's Saturday night. Fuck it. |
| ___________________________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 7:22pm - babyshaker not logged in ""] pam nli said:CNV said:babyshaker not logged in said:this is why i think black metal/satanism/odinism is for the most part fucking stupid ....they spawn a few good bands but other than that its silly and the people involved take themselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to seriously...give it up theres no satan or odin or any of that bullshit...so to kill yourself according to that stuff makes you a dickface This is a very biased and one sided statement Have you ever actually read the Satanic bible ? It is based on rock bottom common sense and how to attain goals I think being in the black metal band, you are not without bias here, either. There's a lot of really sensible stuff in the Satanic Bible, stuff I read and thought made a lot of sense and still do. HOWEVER, there are also a lot of silly rituals and nonesense about white witches in there too. Killing yourself is a faggot pussy thing to do, I don't care what belief you follow. You shoot yourself in the head, you're a fucking moron. i believe one of the first lines in my first response was "for the most part" not "all" and be it a person following the bible for there life or the satanic bible following a book makes you kinda an idiot in my mind thats my opinion....if you dont like it play some black metal in a dark club with sun glasses on douche |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 7:36pm - anonymous ""] DomesticTerror said: "I'm going away for a long, long time. I'm going to Transylvania." If those were his last words to somebody, then I'm glad this doorknob is dead. that was a refrence to DEAD, when dead killed himself he was wearing an "I love transylvania" shirt it wasnt about being a vampire |
| ___________________________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 7:43pm - theaccursedvokillist nli ""] I agree with the chicken shit way out... be a man and deal with the pain. but on the other hand, he wasnt in pain, i guess he figured he hit the peak of his life and the only way to go was down, so he ended it. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 19,2006 7:57pm - CNV ""] babyshaker not logged in said:pam nli said:CNV said:babyshaker not logged in said:this is why i think black metal/satanism/odinism is for the most part fucking stupid ....they spawn a few good bands but other than that its silly and the people involved take themselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to seriously...give it up theres no satan or odin or any of that bullshit...so to kill yourself according to that stuff makes you a dickface This is a very biased and one sided statement Have you ever actually read the Satanic bible ? It is based on rock bottom common sense and how to attain goals I think being in the black metal band, you are not without bias here, either. There's a lot of really sensible stuff in the Satanic Bible, stuff I read and thought made a lot of sense and still do. HOWEVER, there are also a lot of silly rituals and nonesense about white witches in there too. Killing yourself is a faggot pussy thing to do, I don't care what belief you follow. You shoot yourself in the head, you're a fucking moron. i believe one of the first lines in my first response was "for the most part" not "all" and be it a person following the bible for there life or the satanic bible following a book makes you kinda an idiot in my mind thats my opinion....if you dont like it play some black metal in a dark club with sun glasses on douche ahhh ok then like I said the Satanic bible is based on following what suits you best and there is strength in numbers there is strength in the imagery and the archetype these sorts of things combined can change things (maybe you know what I mean and maybe not) and for me ritual and trance is necessary Either you get it or you do not:middlefinger: |
| __________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 7:57pm - powerkok ""] well...then good...more air for me. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 19,2006 8:11pm - Dar ""] powerkok said:I will agree that the satanic bible is about one general thing: Looking out for #1. I also will agree that this whole theory is thrown out the window, once you become a responsible parent. Its not about selling out, being weakend, or succumbing to the rigors of everyday parenthood/life. Although it may be my own fault for this, I do not look back or regret anything. Hence, satanism, again, so.....there you have a full cycle. Which raises the question......what exactly is worship? Well, you could look it like once you become a parent you're looking out for someone other than you, but I think the view of the satanic father might be that his child is an extension or a continuation of himself. In that way putting your kid before yourself could perhaps be in line with the principles of modern satanism...reproduction as a way to immortality, that kinda thinkin. Just a thought... On the other hand, a different breed of satanist might take the conscientious route and decide the last thing this world needs is another kid. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 19,2006 8:15pm - Dar ""] Oh and hey Paul, since you are posting here and you just mentioned ritual and trance let me derail the thread a bit further...you ever read The Cosmic Trigger series by Robert Anton Wilson? I'm starting them, it's FASCINATING SHIT. From what I know of you I think you would find it very interesting |
| __________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 8:34pm - powerkok ""] Dar said:powerkok said:I will agree that the satanic bible is about one general thing: Looking out for #1. I also will agree that this whole theory is thrown out the window, once you become a responsible parent. Its not about selling out, being weakend, or succumbing to the rigors of everyday parenthood/life. Although it may be my own fault for this, I do not look back or regret anything. Hence, satanism, again, so.....there you have a full cycle. Which raises the question......what exactly is worship? Well, you could look it like once you become a parent you're looking out for someone other than you, but I think the view of the satanic father might be that his child is an extension or a continuation of himself. In that way putting your kid before yourself could perhaps be in line with the principles of modern satanism...reproduction as a way to immortality, that kinda thinkin. Just a thought... On the other hand, a different breed of satanist might take the conscientious route and decide the last thing this world needs is another kid. Yep, you have a point. As far as the world needing another kid....The world needs ALOT more, educated, smart, courteous and vigilant kids. If either of my children become just ONE of those things, then I will be proud. I would agree that the world does NOT need 8, lazy, welfare, theif kids, per family. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 9:05pm - Abbath ""] the guy says he felt he accomplished everything in life, if he doesn't want to live then he doesn't want too. i don't think he was really hurting, he was just bored with this plain of existence. i have no problem with people killing themselfs |
| _______________________________ [Aug 19,2006 9:15pm - Murph ""] I think that what I think si what I think that I think. There, I thought it. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 19,2006 9:58pm - Troll ""] the Satanic Bible doesn't seem like his style. Cops don't know shit. MLO's belief seem far from LaVey's Humanism.Hmm... This is fucked though...What a waste. This is how he apearently wanted it. To each his own. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 10:01pm - Troll ""] [img] |
| _______________________________ [Aug 19,2006 10:40pm - nate ""] you said himslef, that's funny! |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 19,2006 11:18pm - powerkok ""] Troll said:[img] Kel-Tek? |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 1:12am - DomesticTerror ""] anonymous said:DomesticTerror said: "I'm going away for a long, long time. I'm going to Transylvania." If those were his last words to somebody, then I'm glad this doorknob is dead. that was a refrence to DEAD, when dead killed himself he was wearing an "I love transylvania" shirt it wasnt about being a vampire Oh...well, ...um that changes everything... |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 2:30am - ArrowHead nli ""] Just to clear something up: Satanism does NOT = satan worship. Satanism is simply a stance of opposition to the established churches and their practices. It has nothing to do with devil worship. Most satanists do not believe in any deity, good or bad. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 20,2006 3:24am - CNV ""] Correct this is laveyan satanism which I have the utmost respect for His brand of satanism attracted someone greater His name is Uncle Boyd Rice [img] Now you know and knowing is half the battle (GI JOE) |
| _____________________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 3:25am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] I'd be damned if the Satanic Bible wasn't a 'plant' by the media or police to try and once again make a scapegoat out of extreme metal. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 20,2006 3:27am - CNV ""] maybe, maybe not the world may never know |
| _____________________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 3:28am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] babyshaker not logged in said:this is why i think black metal/satanism/odinism is for the most part fucking stupid ....they spawn a few good bands but other than that its silly and the people involved take themselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to seriously...give it up theres no satan or odin or any of that bullshit...so to kill yourself according to that stuff makes you a dickface Do NOT bring Odinism into this, it has absolutely nothing to do with the situation. Til dřd ! |
| _______________________________ [Aug 20,2006 6:51am - Troll ""] powerkok said Kel-Tek? Italy's finest |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 10:07am - powerkok ""] Berretta? |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 10:55am - hung_to_bleed ""] Personally, I think suicide is pretty weak. But, I say: To each his own. I fucking love Dissection and to be quite honest I think I was more upset by the fact that they were not allowed into America than to learn of Jon's suicide. If he wanted out so bad that he decided to act on it, more power to him- I guess - I'm sure he had his reasons. The Somberlain: I fell deeper and deeper as light now was gone I could feel the dark embrace my soul Agony was no more, and so was pain At this point of solitude I knew I was there There where I belong Thus far a long journey through my souls infinity It has been a journey far beyond mortality I have found what I wanted, tranquillity I'll thrive on evil, eternally I flew over crystal ground My existence, numb Over orchards of grievance, sorrow and tears This beautiful silence calls me now Black fog devours me but I can see it all The monument of my past, this land of seven horizons before my eyes I reach the land of spiritual rest Its the dawn of descending - I am the Somberlain down to evil divine domain Lord of infernal, gather my strength Carry me through the gates Its the dawn of descending - I am the Somberlain down to evil divine domain For Im eternal night - Im the Somberlain Precede my evil divine domain |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 11:00am - hung_to_bleed ""] [img] that must have been one hell of a fucking show to catch..... |
| _________________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 12:17pm - NippleViolater ""] Satan's so awesome and black metal's so not cheesy. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 20,2006 1:12pm - Troll ""] ...and the Network is gay. There, I finished your sentence. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 20,2006 1:46pm - CNV ""] hahaha they do suck a hard and heavy dick |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 2:15pm - anonymous ""] Troll said:[img] awesome |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 6:01pm - infoterror ""] ^^^ whole thread full of posing and bullshit you people are whitish niggers jon n. was one of the few contributors |
| __________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 8:08pm - Aegathis ""] Abbath said:the guy says he felt he accomplished everything in life, if he doesn't want to live then he doesn't want too. i don't think he was really hurting, he was just bored with this plain of existence. i have no problem with people killing themselfs Agreed, except in the case of parents and shit taking theyre own lives, ive got no respect for that. My dad would have successfully killed himself if i didnt catch him in the act, and i probably wouldnt be here if he did. I dont agree with most of the people on here complaining about it being the chicken shit way out or what ever, leaving behind friends and family yea thats one thing, but what if ya dont have any of that to show for what ever reason. Cause your too damn ugly or stupid or are fucked mentally for what ever reason and just cant live life on your own. If i was physically uncapable of living life to the fullest, or as in the case of Jon here, in a position where i got nothing else left to do, Id more than likely follow his foot steps. I'm also not really bothered by his death, sure i loved Dissection, but he was a cold blooded murderer wasnt he??? |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 8:25pm - dyingmuse ""] to each his own. that's all i have to say. why a huge debate on something that ultimately, is that persons choice. if one decides to do it...let em! fuck em' |
| __________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 8:28pm - powerkok ""] I dont really care about him, but wanted to say that he is a pussy. Thats all. Also, I would like to fight someone over it. |
| ___________________________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 8:36pm - babyshaker not logged in ""] powerkok said:I dont really care about him, but wanted to say that he is a pussy. Thats all. Also, I would like to fight someone over it. hahah |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 8:46pm - dyingmuse ""] let's go tough guy! |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 9:09pm - DJ Death ""] "I'm going away for a long, long time. I'm going to Transylvania." If those were his last words to somebody, then I'm glad this doorknob is dead. Fuck off Domestic Terror, his beliefs was that he was alike the "Transylvanian Son".... The son who lived death like on this earth. You wont understand. My regards go to Jons family, and his friends, as well as his very sadened girlfriend. I understand why he did this though. Reversal of life, that was his belief, and you cant take that away. I hope you wonder about life every day when you eat your cereal, and do the same thing over and over and over. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 9:10pm - DJ Death ""] Read the lyrics to Frozen, on the Somberlain album... |
| _______________________________ [Aug 20,2006 9:45pm - Troll ""] infoterror said:^^^ whole thread full of posing and bullshit you people are whitish niggers jon n. was one of the few contributors You think I'm a poser coward? What constitutes as poser? Your a fucking idiot. Who uses the term poser anyways? Posers. Go get fucking fucked you fucking worm. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 10:02pm - powerkok ""] DJ Death said:Read the lyrics to Frozen, on the Somberlain album... ya, ok, mr dj. wont you play me a bumpin vinyl, soz I can crump, and get stupid? |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 10:03pm - powerkok ""] and ghost ride my whip |
| ________________________________ [Aug 20,2006 10:25pm - ethos ""] He's dead. Damn drama fests won't help/change it. His life, his choice. Christ, leave the damn guy alone. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 21,2006 1:58am - OCR ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:Killing yourself takes guts, you choose to end it your way, I respect suicide. Might just do it myself someday, cross your fingers. can I have your cd collection after you kill yourself |
| __________________________________ [Aug 21,2006 2:10am - powerkok ""] Or just kill him and take it. Then youd both be happy. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 21,2006 2:52am - AUTOPSY_666 ""] I would rather go out like Jon and Dead, not like Euronymous did. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 21,2006 10:48am - anonymous ""] noone here should have any opinion on suicide untill its something you've been through.. and see someone do.. i'm sure you'd all feel differently if that was the case |