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Who else thinks Mastodon is OVER RATED?

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[Sep 24,2006 12:53pm - tr00ness  ""]
biased poll, mmm hmmm
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[Sep 24,2006 12:54pm - pam ""]
right here! all hail the biased poll.
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[Sep 24,2006 12:57pm - espresso ""]
Yup... definately over rated
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[Sep 24,2006 12:59pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Not overrated for me. Honest straightforward musicians, great drumming, unique sound, creative lyrics and concepts, no gimmicks.

I'm afraid I had to feel special.

How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.
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[Sep 24,2006 1:01pm - SlavonicIdentity  ""]
I think they are.
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[Sep 24,2006 1:11pm - pam ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:
How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.



Mine as well.
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[Sep 24,2006 1:53pm - HailTheLeaf ""]
I'd say they're underrated if anything...
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[Sep 24,2006 2:05pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
I don't know about underrated, they're one of the most hyped metal bands in the world, and the overwhelming majority of metal and heavy music fans enjoy them. They're making some good money. And for once, I can feel like this successful band actually deserves it.

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[Sep 24,2006 2:13pm - NippleViolater ""]
pam said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:
How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.



Mine as well.



:point:

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[Sep 24,2006 2:18pm - HailTheLeaf ""]
I didn't know they were hyped, I still run into metal fans who've never heard of them.
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[Sep 24,2006 2:19pm - Kevord ""]
Cave dwellers
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[Sep 24,2006 2:26pm - brian_dc ""]
I voted to feel special.
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[Sep 24,2006 2:37pm - vomitthesoul ""]
All Metalcore bands are overated.The most overated one is from this area-Unearth
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[Sep 24,2006 2:38pm - Kevord ""]
Mastodon aren't metalcore dumbass.
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[Sep 24,2006 2:38pm - dreadkill ""]
mastodon isn't a metalcore band
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[Sep 24,2006 2:39pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
i don't think they're overrated, i just think it all depends on musical tastes. anyone who can't get into the music will most likely say they think they're overrated.

i finally got the new album and after listening to it a few times and watching the dvd, i have a lot more appreciation for them. i've been a fan since lifesblood came out, but now i like them even more after seeing how much they work but at the same time how easy it comes to them because they just let it flow.
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[Sep 24,2006 2:41pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
how the fuck can you think mastodon are a metalcore band? have you even heard them?
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[Sep 24,2006 2:42pm - pam ""]
I hate Mastodon, but they are NOT metalcore.
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[Sep 24,2006 2:49pm - HailTheLeaf ""]
They're about as metalcore as Iron Maiden...I got the cd with the dvd and the dvd doesn't fucking work...
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[Sep 24,2006 3:28pm - vomitthesoul ""]
Kevord said:Mastodon aren't metalcore dumbass.



What are they then?

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[Sep 24,2006 3:28pm - litacore ""]
I don't really listen to them

they're just a metal band, if business is working out for them, I'd rather it was them than Hatebreed or Victory Records drek
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[Sep 24,2006 3:55pm - dwellingsickness ""]
So this is thread # what, now?, Concerning this band that a majority seem to dislike ,but seem to be making new threads,just wording them differently.
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[Sep 24,2006 4:18pm - Cecchini ""]
i thought it was pretty common knowledge that mastodon sucked. the only time i've heard praise for this band has been like the past 2 weeks.
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[Sep 24,2006 4:21pm - Kevord ""]
vomitthesoul said:Kevord said:Mastodon aren't metalcore dumbass.



What are they then?




There just a straight up Metal band there's nothing core about them. But there still mediocre.
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[Sep 24,2006 4:31pm - pam ""]
Evidently, the only topics permitted on RTTP are mastodon, right wing/left wing fighting and jew bashing.
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[Sep 24,2006 4:35pm - Kevord ""]
Don't forget sick moshing and how much you suck.
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[Sep 24,2006 4:36pm - pam ""]
haha. That too.
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[Sep 24,2006 6:41pm - Allah That  ""]
Dar reads Nietzsche.
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[Sep 24,2006 6:44pm - anonymoUSA  ""]
back on topic: i find them boring and easy to forget. zzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz
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[Sep 24,2006 6:58pm - dreadkill ""]
pam said:Evidently, the only topics permitted on RTTP are mastodon, right wing/left wing fighting and jew bashing.


it's getting old.
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[Sep 24,2006 7:00pm - Allah That  ""]
They already thot of that. mastodon= millions of years old.
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[Sep 24,2006 7:38pm - Ryan_M ""]
vomitthesoul said:Kevord said:Mastodon aren't metalcore dumbass.



What are they then?




Jesus Christ, you're pissing all over a band you don't know jack shit about. Go jerk off on your Six Feet Under CDs. Wiener.:moe:
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[Sep 24,2006 7:39pm - Ryan_M ""]
Every band in the world is over rated. Listen to music you like.
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[Sep 24,2006 7:54pm - xanonymousx ""]
mastodon stole a haste the day riff from their ep way back.
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[Sep 24,2006 8:17pm - metalguy ""]
I can't find anything redeeming about listening to that band.
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[Sep 24,2006 9:59pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
vomitthesoul said:Kevord said:Mastodon aren't metalcore dumbass.



What are they then?




Hard to describe, but a fusion of classic metal, death metal, some punk and hardcore, prog rock, blues and stoner rock. Vocals are very similar to other bands from their home area like F.U.C.T., early Today is the Day (2 of the Mastodon guys were in TITD and Lethargy at one point) with a touch of early splattercore like old C.O.C., etc.

Their conceptual style for lyrics and artwork theme is a marriage of prehistoric imagery, psychedelia, mythology, and various forces of nature. Their lyrics are heavily influenced by Neurosis, although their music is in a way very busy, and thus the antithesis of Neurosis.
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[Sep 24,2006 11:17pm - infoterror ""]
Completely. Emo garbage praised by Relapse. 'Nuff said.

Mastodon is emocore. Metalcore. Whatever.
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[Sep 24,2006 11:17pm - infoterror ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:Hard to describe, but a fusion of classic metal, death metal, some punk and hardcore, prog rock, blues and stoner rock.


You mean, a garbage bag full of random shit... that's metalcore d00d. Solly, no glot, c'lom Fliday.
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[Sep 24,2006 11:33pm - Neverpurified ""]
infoterror said:Completely. Emo garbage praised by Relapse. 'Nuff said.

Mastodon is emocore. Metalcore. Whatever.



HAHA, emocore..that's a good one.

I fucking love this band, very talented guys, good songwriters, and amazing live...I see nothing wrong/overrated about them
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[Sep 25,2006 1:16am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
infoterror said:Completely. Emo garbage praised by Relapse. 'Nuff said.

Mastodon is emocore. Metalcore. Whatever.



Wrong.
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[Sep 25,2006 1:19am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
infoterror said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:Hard to describe, but a fusion of classic metal, death metal, some punk and hardcore, prog rock, blues and stoner rock.


You mean, a garbage bag full of random shit... that's metalcore d00d. Solly, no glot, c'lom Fliday.



There was nothing random about it, it just goes to show how difficult they are to describe.

MASTODON SUCKS bECAUZE THEY ARE POPULAR!!! POPULAR = METALCORE. I FEEL THRET-END. ZOMG ANY POPULAR METAL SUX!!!

There, a better and more accurate critique.
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[Sep 25,2006 1:31am - infommercial  ""]
what he said.
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[Sep 25,2006 9:06am - sxealex ""]
yea so far im liking the new album minus some of the odd vocals. they have huge sound.
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[Sep 25,2006 10:12am - NippleViolater ""]
They're bad ass, get yo fuckin minds right.
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[Sep 25,2006 10:36am - Yeti ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.


i still dont see how Opeth is overrated. they are anything but. they have been pumping out fantastic music for over a decade now, and they finally got some recognition, and were immediately lumped into the "overrated" category. i just dont see it.
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[Sep 25,2006 10:52am - brian_dc ""]
sxealex said:yea so far im liking the new album minus some of the odd vocals. they have huge sound.


yeah, the track with cyber-vocals kinda bores me. Otherwise, I can dig it.
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[Sep 25,2006 12:25pm - anonymous  ""]
Yeti said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.


i still dont see how Opeth is overrated. they are anything but. they have been pumping out fantastic music for over a decade now, and they finally got some recognition, and were immediately lumped into the "overrated" category. i just dont see it.



Opeth had recognition for years, it's just that newbs and bandwagon metal fans (who didn't give a shit about metal in the 90s) didn't listen to them because they weren't popular yet. So they hadn't heard them. And yes, they are overrated.
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[Sep 25,2006 12:30pm - dreadkill ""]
anonymous said:Yeti said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.


i still dont see how Opeth is overrated. they are anything but. they have been pumping out fantastic music for over a decade now, and they finally got some recognition, and were immediately lumped into the "overrated" category. i just dont see it.



Opeth had recognition for years, it's just that newbs and bandwagon metal fans (who didn't give a shit about metal in the 90s) didn't listen to them because they weren't popular yet. So they hadn't heard them. And yes, they are overrated.



i agree
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[Sep 25,2006 12:31pm - dreadkill ""]
other overrated bands: dragonforce, and everyone on rttp's favorite band, necrophagist.
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[Sep 25,2006 12:40pm - Yeti ""]
anonymous said:Yeti said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.


i still dont see how Opeth is overrated. they are anything but. they have been pumping out fantastic music for over a decade now, and they finally got some recognition, and were immediately lumped into the "overrated" category. i just dont see it.



Opeth had recognition for years, it's just that newbs and bandwagon metal fans (who didn't give a shit about metal in the 90s) didn't listen to them because they weren't popular yet. So they hadn't heard them. And yes, they are overrated.



naw, i still dont agree.
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[Sep 25,2006 1:10pm - brian_dc ""]
dreadkill said:other overrated bands: dragonforce, and everyone on rttp's favorite band, necrophagist.


whoa, he went after necrophagist! Get him!

Haha, yeah, they probably get jocked more than they deserve. But for good technical death metal that still has some songwriting merit, there just aren't a whole lot of competitors.
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[Sep 25,2006 4:41pm - 8008135  ""]
necrophagist > mastodon
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[Sep 25,2006 5:42pm - Anti-Racism ""]
Mastodon is like Metallica, if they spent too much time at some wanky college. Opeth is like a cross-dresser at a UFC.
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[Sep 26,2006 3:24pm - dreadkill ""]
Anti-Racism said:Mastodon is like Metallica, if they spent too much time at some wanky college. Opeth is like a cross-dresser at a UFC.


that post makes absolutely no sense.
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[Sep 26,2006 3:25pm - dreadkill ""]
brian_dc said:dreadkill said:other overrated bands: dragonforce, and everyone on rttp's favorite band, necrophagist.


whoa, he went after necrophagist! Get him!

Haha, yeah, they probably get jocked more than they deserve. But for good technical death metal that still has some songwriting merit, there just aren't a whole lot of competitors.



i don't really have a problem with necrophagist, but their music does little for me and it seems like everyone gets an unwarranted boner over them like they invented metal.
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[Sep 26,2006 4:57pm - infoterror ""]
Necrophagist is trivial shit. Martyr is better in that same pointless style.

Mastodon is typical nu-metal garbage to these ears. No style, no substance, nothing but hipster irony.

Fuck that.
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[Sep 26,2006 5:06pm - Anthony nli  ""]
infoterror said:Necrophagist is trivial shit. Martyr is better in that same pointless style.

Mastodon is typical nu-metal garbage to these ears. No style, no substance, nothing but hipster irony.

Fuck that.



What is pointless about Martyr's style?
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[Sep 26,2006 5:09pm - dreadkill ""]
infoterror's life is pointless.
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[Sep 26,2006 5:09pm - Anthony nli  ""]
To my ears, Martyr create much more meaningful and unique music than Necrophagist. I really wouldn't lump them together like that.

It's a shame Martyr aren't more well known and well-loved. They are one of the best active metal bands in the world. But even if they were more popular, people who've heard a snippet of maybe two songs would be coming out of the woodwork to say it was just "technical wankery." Tools.
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[Sep 26,2006 5:32pm - Allah That  ""]
dreadkill said:infoterror's life is pointless.


:skull:infotexas.
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[Nov 15,2006 1:45pm - Marco ""]
drumming is amazing
end of story
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[Nov 15,2006 4:45pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Anthony nli said:To my ears, Martyr create much more meaningful and unique music than Necrophagist. I really wouldn't lump them together like that.

It's a shame Martyr aren't more well known and well-loved. They are one of the best active metal bands in the world. But even if they were more popular, people who've heard a snippet of maybe two songs would be coming out of the woodwork to say it was just "technical wankery." Tools.



Martyr is definitely better than Necrophagist (especially that new album). That highly technical style is always going to have a limited following though, just as it always has, which is why people grew up with Ozzy and Manowar and left Watchtower and Cynic on the record store shelf, and Avenged Sevenfold blew up to the teenie boppers and Discordance Axis didn't.

Who cares though, as long as we get to listen to Martyr
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[Nov 15,2006 9:08pm - HailTheLeaf ""]
Eh, some people are oblivious to how incredible Mastodon is, so what? yay! more small venue shows and rare vinyl for me. Opeth are amazing also...
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[Nov 15,2006 9:21pm - dreadkill ""]
why is this thread back?
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[Nov 15,2006 10:51pm - 1a2b3  ""]
cuz mastodon lovers never learn
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[Jul 14,2007 4:57am - anonymous  ""]
yeah theyre awesome! perfect for when i want something to put me to sleep
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[Oct 31,2009 9:28pm - saint vitus  ""]
MASTODON FUCKIN SUCKS, ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIKE THEM ARE TRENDY LITTLE 4 CHAN FAGS WHO WHO SLANG LIKE "EPIC FAIL"
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[Nov 1,2009 1:26am - sxealex ""]
EPIC TROLL FAIL ZOMG
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[Apr 17,2010 10:53am - MetalHead  ""]
for people like me who love all kinds of metal especially Slayer, Cannibal Corpse and Fear Factory, Mastodon is amazing and is the best band after these 3, i think they are actually underrated since none of my friends know them, I have more than 70 albums from more than 50 bands on my pc and i have some cds, but most of the albums i couldnt listen to them all from beggining to end none stop if they are more than 40 mins., but yesterday i listened to Crack the Skye from beggining to end and i still wanted more and the album is over 50 mins. i think Mastodon reached total perfection with their last album
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[Apr 17,2010 10:56am - Lich_King ""]
Horribly overrated. Their whole thing is building up into something and instead of landing in a bangy groove, they start building up into something else.
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[Apr 17,2010 10:58am - reimroc ""]

saint%20vitus said:MASTODON FUCKIN SUCKS, ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIKE THEM ARE TRENDY LITTLE 4 CHAN FAGS WHO WHO SLANG LIKE "EPIC FAIL"


mad
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[Apr 17,2010 11:05am - MillenialKingdom ""]
I think what makes them overrated are the bands who have been emulating them over the recent years. I like Mastodon but I don't listen to much of them after Remission or Leviathan.
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[Apr 17,2010 11:06am - BlackoutRick ""]

Lich_King said:Horribly overrated. Their whole thing is building up into something and instead of landing in a bangy groove, they start building up into something else.


Exactly. Why is that bad?
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[Apr 17,2010 11:34am - TheRidersofDoom ""]
Eh, I love moby dick but one spin of the Leviathan album was enough from this band for me. Not bad, just not interesting to me.
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[Apr 17,2010 11:43am - Lich_King ""]
I don't know how to answer that. If you can find a way to headbang to Mastodon, rock on. Me, I think it's a tepid prog mess for Terrorizer readers.
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[Apr 17,2010 8:14pm - reimroc ""]

TheRidersofDoom said:Eh, I love moby dick but one spin of the Leviathan album was enough from this band for me. Not bad, just not interesting to me.


Leviathan and Blood Mountain and really, really good. They're also more talented and interesting than a lot of the crap out there. I say you should give it another listen because I think your missing something.
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[Apr 17,2010 8:40pm - patmeebles ""]
It's tough enough to be good at what you do, never mind having a sound that is unmistakable from other bands. So no, they're not overrated.
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[Apr 17,2010 8:42pm - Lamp ""]
I still like Remission and Leviathan and listen to them occasionally, but I can't tell if it's because I liked them in high school or because I really genuinely still like them. Considering I can't stand some shit I used to like, probably more the latter.
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[Apr 17,2010 11:48pm - mutis ""]
Never understood what all the fuss was about.
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[Apr 18,2010 10:06am - BlackoutRick ""]

patmeebles said:It's tough enough to be good at what you do, never mind having a sound that is unmistakable from other bands. So no, they're not overrated.


Truth. End thread.
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[Apr 18,2010 10:12am - tylor ""]
leviathan got old on me and i didn't really like anything that came out after that, but i'll always love remission and lifesblood
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[Apr 18,2010 10:13am - Lich_King ""]
Well, originality only goes so far. Ed Gein, Liberace and Tim Burton are all original. Doesn't mean they're any good.
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[Apr 18,2010 10:14am - BlackoutRick ""]
HAHAHA!! Yeah, good point.
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[Apr 18,2010 12:54pm - MillenialKingdom ""]
This is one of those bands where the elitists are like, "I oNlY LiKe teH OldE StuFF".
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[Apr 18,2010 5:35pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
Bores me to tears. No hate, just doesn't provoke any reaction in me. Which is probably not what they were going for.
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[Apr 18,2010 5:39pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""]

DestroyYouAlot said:Bores me to tears. No hate, just doesn't provoke any reaction in me. Which is probably not what they were going for.
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[Apr 18,2010 6:04pm - Eat Dicks (x86)  ""]
They're pretty good, for an indie band.
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[Apr 18,2010 6:43pm - moenli  ""]
Great drummer. Meh songs.
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[Apr 18,2010 10:06pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""]

moenli said:Great drummer. Meh songs.


boring bass guitar with awful tone, drummer overplays, and now he sings? They listen to their label rep, made it more "accessible"
LAME
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[Nov 9,2010 9:45pm - moonroom72 ""]
I think they're pretty important in the metal scene, they are one of the most pure bands I've ever heard, they're completely true to themselves and they never letup on integrity or creativity, or being hard working motherfuckers. They got the true spirit of Metal, which is lacking so hard in popular realms.
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[Nov 9,2010 10:46pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]

moonroom72 said:I think they're pretty important in the metal scene, they are one of the most pure bands I've ever heard, they're completely true to themselves and they never letup on integrity or creativity, or being hard working motherfuckers. They got the true spirit of Metal, which is lacking so hard in popular realms.


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[Nov 9,2010 11:08pm - nekronaut ""]

Lich_King said:Horribly overrated. Their whole thing is building up into something and instead of landing in a bangy groove, they start building up into something else.


At least they don't go around calling themselves the ''greatest (insert genre) band of all time'' like some other bands do

*cough*Lich King*cough*
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[Nov 10,2010 1:34am - late_rising ""]
are you implying Lich King are not THE GREATEST PIZZA THRASH BAND OF ALL TIME??
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[Nov 10,2010 7:49am - hoser ""]
I love 'em. Great band. All BS aside.
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[Nov 10,2010 9:23am - zurdo  ""]
I think they're great at what they do, I like Kruger and Ved Buens Ende or Virus better.
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[Nov 10,2010 9:26am - slymoe nli  ""]
baroness baroness baroness
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[Nov 10,2010 10:48am - smoke one  ""]
^yep, for that style i'll take baroness over mastodon any day.

instrumentally mastodon are great, the vocals ruin it for me though. bring back the harsh vocals and i'd like them more.
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[Nov 10,2010 11:50am - The_Rooster ""]

moenli said:Great drummer. Meh songs.


Most of the "meh" with that band, for me, is because of the drummer.

Drum solos are cool and all, but not when you play them through entire albums. It was really refreshing to hear him hold back a lot on the newest record. Opened things up a lot, and gave some space to the music. Prior to that, I've found his style to be incredibly claustrophobic and over-stated.

I don't think they're overrated. They are VERY good at what they do, and obviously work really hard, but I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan.

I do like a lot of their songs (mostly from "Remission"), but not enough that I listen to them with any regularity. The exception being this:



bennyhillifier
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[Nov 10,2010 12:32pm - xmikex ""]
Mastodon live = "Dude, they've been playing this intro for like an hour and a half now... wtf the show's over?!"
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[Nov 10,2010 12:50pm - RustyPS should be working  ""]
only splitting one word into two for no reason is real
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[Nov 10,2010 1:50pm - LBprovidence ""]
only time i saw mastodon mastodon swas in 2003, in a cold dark warehouse with about 30 people watching. but i remember them being really good. they were solid as hell, and had a great sound. i dont think they were pulling any rockstar shit either. havent followed them much since.
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[Nov 10,2010 4:25pm - Lester__Burnham ""]
they good

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