NYHC on Donahue in 1986[views:8840][posts:54]_________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 1:23pm - Dankill ""] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soNgsDy7SB0 This was a special they had on the Hew York Hardcore scene back in '86 that had a number of people from various bands appear, as well as everyday kids. Off the top of my head, they have members of Agnostic Front, Youth of Today, Cro-Mags, Crumbsuckers, Token Entry, Nuclear Assault, PMS, Another State of Mind, Carnivore and Bold in the audience. At least from who I could see and other people who are older then me from NYC that knew them back then. Pretty cool lil peice of history Now I gotta dig up: Fear on SNL GWAR and the Mentors on Springer Anti punk episode of Dr. Qunicy Anti punk/hardcore PSA's of parents whining about their kids dressing funny and going to shows where they get "hurt" Any other ideas? |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 1:28pm - the_reverend ""] how is that possible, white belts weren'tinvented until 2003. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 1:43pm - sacreligion ""] Donahue: "So pretty soon it's gonna be mainstream and you're going to have to do something else" brilliant |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 1:48pm - KeithMutiny ""] i remember watching Gwar om springer, i never knew the mentors did springer |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 1:48pm - ct b0rderpatrol ""] i posted the fear on snl vid a while back. i guess do a search |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 1:51pm - Anthony nli ""] KeithMutiny said:i remember watching Gwar om springer, i never knew the mentors did springer El Duce was on the same episode as GWAR. |
| ________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 1:53pm - pisscup ""] wow, so many young faces... I miss the days when the girls dressed like that... |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 1:55pm - KeithMutiny ""] Anthony nli said:KeithMutiny said:i remember watching Gwar om springer, i never knew the mentors did springer El Duce was on the same episode as GWAR. i never got to see the actual episode, just a video of them doing it, so i missed that, im sure that must have been amuzing. and a long time ago, didnt he die in like 96 or something? |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 2:13pm - the_reverend ""] fear on SNL is something epic. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 2:39pm - DrewBlood ""] Fear on SNL features Ian MacKaye stage diving as they play 'Beef Beef Beef Bologna' |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 2:57pm - anonymous ""] Yo, check fat guy with mohawk within the first ten seconds of that vid...DEF Ian Robinson...holy shit. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 2:58pm - KeithMutiny ""] ian mackaye is a fucking douchebag. i blame him for everything thats wrong with music today. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 3:20pm - DrewBlood ""] KeithMutiny said:ian mackaye is a fucking douchebag. i blame him for everything thats wrong with music today. well you're in luck! he'll be in boson this coming friday and you can tell him how you feel http://www.dischord.com/tour/ |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 3:49pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Little did they all know that good hardcore wouldn't exist after the 80's. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 3,2006 3:59pm - Kevord ""] Fear on SNL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPy2_tTHsB4 |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 4:01pm - RichHorror ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:Little did they all know that good hardcore wouldn't exist after the 80's. Incorrect. It is and was called powerviolence. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 4:06pm - sacreligion ""] that band fear isn't like...good an old-school pit on snl is hilarious though |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 4:17pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] powerviolence =/= hardcore |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 4:18pm - GoatOfCatalyst ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:Little did they all know that good hardcore wouldn't exist after the 80's. how right you are! there are SOME... but it's fucking rare (PALEHORSE) |
| _________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 8:45pm - Dankill ""] I think that really was Ian Robinson actually. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 3,2006 8:59pm - Messerschmitt ""] the old lady in the pink is awesome fuck donahue and fuck geraldo! |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 11:57am - KeithMutiny ""] DrewBlood said:KeithMutiny said:ian mackaye is a fucking douchebag. i blame him for everything thats wrong with music today. well you're in luck! he'll be in boson this coming friday and you can tell him how you feel http://www.dischord.com/tour/ you know what, i just might do that. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 12:11pm - Josh_Martin ""] sacreligion said:that band fear isn't like...good an old-school pit on snl is hilarious though You aren't like...smart. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 12:14pm - the_reverend ""] agreed. I only got to see fear once (in 1995 or 1996 in boston with butt trumpet) but they were and still are awesome. the song let's have a war is better than almost anything. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 12:16pm - KeithMutiny ""] i love fear, one of my all time faves, hands down. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 12:25pm - the_reverend ""] let's blame it on the middle class. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 1:17pm - KeithMutiny ""] we'll start in new jersy |
| _________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 1:44pm - Samantha ""] Dankill said:Now I gotta dig up: Fear on SNL GWAR and the Mentors on Springer Anti punk episode of Dr. Qunicy Anti punk/hardcore PSA's of parents whining about their kids dressing funny and going to shows where they get "hurt" Any other ideas? I have a copy of the GWAR/Mentors episode of Jerry Springer that I taped from TV way back when. I'm pretty sure I've seen a video of it on youtube. The episode was titled something like "Shock Rock". |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 3:03pm - XmikeX @ work ""] a couple observations about this video: 1. Did I just hear a girl stand up, and form a complete sentence that was relevant, made sense, and didn't embarass a music scene? Times really HAVE changed. 2. I can't watch this without thinking about Phil Hartman's impressions of Phil Donahue from SNL. Priceless. 3. Say what you will about this but it looks like Donahue definently gave these kids a much fairer chance than Oprah gave Jello Biafra. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 3:19pm - XmikeX @ work ""] wait.... I watched the rest of it. A healthy handful of those girls had absolutely dumb things to say, the natural order of things takes control once again. But seriously... think of that one girl in your scene that everyone hates (take your pick)... imagine if she was on The View speaking up for you? I'd implode. |
| ___________________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 3:44pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] i think Joe/NotCommon should represent the metal scene on the Tyra banks show. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 4:25pm - Dissector ""] That was awesome. Thanks for posting. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 4:31pm - Dissector ""] XmikeX @ work said: 3. Say what you will about this but it looks like Donahue definently gave these kids a much fairer chance than Oprah gave Jello Biafra. http://youtube.com/watch?v=6fzJEqcHvNs |
| __________________________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 6:18pm - babyshaker not logged in ""] Dissector said:XmikeX @ work said: 3. Say what you will about this but it looks like Donahue definently gave these kids a much fairer chance than Oprah gave Jello Biafra. http://youtube.com/watch?v=6fzJEqcHvNs that right there was awesome |
| _____________________________ [Dec 4,2006 6:24pm - Lamp ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:Little did they all know that good hardcore wouldn't exist after the 80's. Are you serious? There are so many bands still playing the old school styles today. Cut The Shit, Gordon Solie Motherfuckers, Direct Control, Limp Wrist, Fourteen or Fight, Think I Care, Vitamin X, R.A.M.B.O., Skitkids, blah blah the list goes on. And yes, powerviolence is hardcore in my book, it's an evolution of the days of old. I think a lot of the stuff around today is actually better than what was around in the 80s since the bands have stepped up the speed and written more interesting riffs. To say hardcore died in the 80s is ignorant elitism. Also, both those videos were awesome. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 7:56pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Sorry, but it's true. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 8:16pm - the_reverend ""] cut the shit broke up last year I thought. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 4,2006 8:47pm - Lamp ""] They did? That sucks. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 9:26pm - RichHorrorNLI ""] My band is good hardcore that exists after the 80's. There's a shit-ton more, too. Even just in New England. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 9:29pm - GoatOfCatalyst ""] Pale Horse! |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 9:32pm - RichHorrorNLI ""] Yep. For The Worse, Outbreak, COA are cool too. Self Abuse, Downhill Fast, Visual Pollution, Nothing But Enemies, Civil Defense, Shred The Past, the list goes on. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 9:51pm - GoatOfCatalyst ""] COA. absolutely! Colin brings FURY! |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 9:53pm - RichHorrorNLI ""] Someone will be mad at me for expressing my opinion on my favored style opf music, I just know it. Never fails. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 10:00pm - RichHorrorNLI ""] Goat, go see my band you prick. You might actually enjoy it. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 10:55pm - Dankill ""] I need the full clip of Fear where after that last clip ends, the credits roll early and everyone trashes the whole SNL set. First and only time in SNL history when they had to roll credits and end early. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 4,2006 10:58pm - RichHorror ""] 'Negative Approach is gonna fuck you up!' |
| ________________________________ [Dec 5,2006 2:10am - ichabod ""] How old am I...? I have this episode on VHS, taped off of TV when it aired, along with the Geraldo episode when he gets pelted by a chair by the "skinheads"...REMINISCENCE! |
| ________________________________ [Dec 5,2006 2:21am - ichabod ""] Dankill said: Token Entry Anti punk episode of Dr. Qunicy Anti punk/hardcore PSA's of parents whining about their kids dressing funny and going to shows where they get "hurt" Any other ideas? All that I want to do....is SKATE, SKATE! Holy shit! I've been hoping to procure a copy of that quincy for YEARS, to sample...the stabbing in the mosh pit!!!!!!!!!!!! Sort of like the razor slashing at the Suicidal/Exodus show at the Channel!!! Um, we really did get hurt at alot of shows. The only times in my entire life after I fell outta my mom's womb that I've been at the hospital have been due to show injuries....no regrets, just sayin', maybe I should listened to those PSA's after all. |
| __________________________________________________ [Dec 5,2006 2:52am - CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY ""] Glenn Evans (Nuclear Assault) gave me a full copy of this Donahue show on vhs & eight-track. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 5,2006 6:37am - Messerschmitt ""] ichabod said:How old am I...? I have this episode on VHS, taped off of TV when it aired, along with the Geraldo episode when he gets pelted by a chair by the "skinheads"...REMINISCENCE! that geraldo show looked so set up to me |
| _____________________________ [Dec 5,2006 7:51am - Lamp ""] RichHorrorNLI said:Yep. For The Worse, Outbreak, COA are cool too. Self Abuse, Downhill Fast, Visual Pollution, Nothing But Enemies, Civil Defense, Shred The Past, the list goes on. I have to insert Third Death in here. COA and Shred The Past are the only two bands on there I've seen unfortunately but they both rule. And if you want me to see your band, play someplace that's not a bar so I can actually get in, because I am interested. |
| ____________________________________________ [Dec 5,2006 8:49am - i_am_not_logged_in ""] I have a clip of Fear on SNL, but I don't remember if it's the full one. And it's on my old hard drive. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 5,2006 9:26am - Josh_Martin ""] I have a tape of the entire FEAR set on SNL. It fucking rules. It was the Halloween 1981 show, hosted by Donald Pleasance who was promoting Halloween II which had just come out. FEAR and all the punks in the crowd totally destroyed the place. One of the greatest performances ever. FEAR just kept playing too, they didn't stop until the producer cut the power. John Belushi was responsible for getting them booked on the show. Belushi was a huge punk, and especially FEAR fan. He was slated to host a future episode and said he wouldn't do it unless they booked FEAR. I think he ended up dying before the show he was supposed to host happened though. If he had lived I bet we would've seen a lot more awesome bands on SNL. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 5,2006 9:34am - Lamp ""] Wasn't Black Flag supposed to be on SNL? |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 5,2006 10:17am - RichHorror ""] Lamp said:RichHorrorNLI said:Yep. For The Worse, Outbreak, COA are cool too. Self Abuse, Downhill Fast, Visual Pollution, Nothing But Enemies, Civil Defense, Shred The Past, the list goes on. I have to insert Third Death in here. COA and Shred The Past are the only two bands on there I've seen unfortunately but they both rule. And if you want me to see your band, play someplace that's not a bar so I can actually get in, because I am interested. Yeah, I'd like to play a place like that too. Third Death was the other band I was thinking of. I always lump them in with Visual Pollution and Shred The Past, for some reason. |