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[QUOTE="MarkFuckingRichards:534464"]here's my code of ethics when it comes to booking/promoting/running shows, after dealing with this stuff on both sides of the fence, and even sometimes directly on the fence, for about 8 years. -first off, if you can't fund a show by yourself bare bones, you're already in trouble and should either a) not book shows at all or b) make sure you know someone that can lend you the money. -pay to play="good business" to some, huge dick in the ass to everyone else. if you are required to sell 50 tickets or so to open for the new england metal and hardcore festival, or something of that nature, then there is nothing wrong with that. having to sell 50 tickets or so to open for a 7-9 band show that only features 1-2 nationals at an age restricted venue is absolutely absurd. anyone who expects that to work all the time will be sadly let down. -if a band asks for a high guarantee, make sure they are absolutely worth it before booking the show. lets say the red chord asked for $500 per show in a local environment or otherwise just before "fused together in revolving doors" came out. no one would take them seriously. now, with a humungous fan-base backing them up, $500 is easily done, and i bet they can even justifiably charge almost $1000 in certain areas with no doubts on the promoter's part. even if a band is on a huge label and have ample distribution/advertising, does that ensure the fact that they have a reliable fan-base? -if you do end up booking nationals, or any band that has a guarantee, even if they don't draw as much as you expected, you still booked them and even if there isn't a contract, it is still fucked up to dick them over. i've suffered through that a lot, even though bands i've been in through the past brought plenty of people to the door. there is nothing worse than driving anywhere from 4-12 hours, playing a show, and then getting handed barely a fraction of what you were told you'd be paid, or nothing at all. there is a lot of hard work, time, and even more money put into touring for most bands these days, so getting dicked over on guarantees is like getting kicked in the nuts 10 times over. -always have a team of people helping you out. if you have a few people promoting with you, and 1 or 2 people to help with the door and possible mishaps at the show, you shouldn't have to worry about bands promoting. granted, it is stupid as hell for a band to NOT let people know about where they will be performing so they can get put on more and better shows in the future, there are some people that just won't go the extra mile. i guess i agree the most with good ol' nicky cigs here (ttoc), since he's been in this game for a long ass time and has probably seen many ups and downs. to me, it's pretty simple, but most of the time a lot of "promoters" get in over their heads and end up dicking themselves and other people over to the point where they won't be able to keep up a good business. [/QUOTE]
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