Was 9/11 an inside job?[views:63350][posts:246][poll! to vote:click here] to view:click here] _______________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 12:00pm - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] Do you believe that the attacks on america were a planned event by our own government as an excuse to go to war and to take away our freedoms, ie, patriot act, national ID...etc. |
| ________________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 12:14pm - Brad Weymouth ""] you are a gay you are a fag bend over so i may humble you |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 12:20pm - the_reverend ""] of course it was an inside job. it's easy to figure out this was a plot between our parents and the reverse vampires to destroy the meal known as dinner. |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 12:21pm - the_reverend ""] we are through the looking glass here people... |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 1:02pm - PatMeebles ""] The idea that the government would be able to fake a huge terrorist attack on our own soil amongst millions of our own citizens but wouldn't be able to fake a nuke or two in a fake Saddam bunker in the desert NOT amongst millions of our own citizens seems like a bit of a stretch. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 3:16pm - UnderLord ""] Fucking brilliant! I hadn't heard or considered this yet. Let's ask Grace Ross. She knows what's up. |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 5:09pm - hungtableed ""] The 'no' option should just simply be a 'no it was not'. I think the moonbats who believe google-video and youtube conspiracy videos are just as crazy as they think people like myself are for accepting the gov's explanation. I don't believe it was an inside job, but unlike the the only option I had here I do think that they had plenty of warning signs to have been able to at least figure something was about to go down. |
| ______________________________ [Sep 9,2007 8:34pm - Hoser ""] Hahahahahaha...an "inside" job? The real world isn't like the Bourne Supremacy you moron. Retard.....of course not. I love how every hippy liberal fag thinks that they're Agatha fuckin' Christy....get a life you jobless douch holes. Leave the real world up to people with jobs and too little time on their hands to worry about whether or not 9/11 was a conspiracy......the media has you kids so fucked up.....Jesus Christ go read a book.....seriously. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 8:43pm - RichHorror ""] I caused 9/11. |
| ____________________________ [Sep 9,2007 8:52pm - OCR ""] The Nazis planed it from there bases in anarticia and the north pole. |
| ______________________________ [Sep 9,2007 9:03pm - Arist ""] Hoser said:Hahahahahaha...an "inside" job? The real world isn't like the Bourne Supremacy you moron. Retard.....of course not. I love how every hippy liberal fag thinks that they're Agatha fuckin' Christy....get a life you jobless douch holes. Leave the real world up to people with jobs and too little time on their hands to worry about whether or not 9/11 was a conspiracy......the media has you kids so fucked up.....Jesus Christ go read a book.....seriously. Either that, or they have you caught in the trap. Too busy with your life to care about anything 9/11 related? Perfect. Another American that can give a shit less about their country with no questions asked. Keep watching fox and tell me if they've captured Bin Laden yet. |
| ______________________________ [Sep 9,2007 9:15pm - Hoser ""] Hahahahahahaha....ok. You conspiracy retards have wayyyy too much time on your hands. Name 1 other American conspiracy that you believe in... By the way....I have a bridge to sell if you're interested.....I'm putting it on the market next week. IM me if you want the inside scoop before it hits the open maket. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 9:24pm - mortalis ""] back and to the left... |
| ________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 10:23pm - burnsy ""] spelling errors aside, this is most plausible explanation i've seen haha. |
| ________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 10:24pm - burnsy ""] by this... i mean OCR's post |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 10:41pm - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] Hoser said:Hahahahahahaha....ok. You conspiracy retards have wayyyy too much time on your hands. Name 1 other American conspiracy that you believe in... By the way....I have a bridge to sell if you're interested.....I'm putting it on the market next week. IM me if you want the inside scoop before it hits the open maket. How about the conspiracy theories they have proved true. world war one... Some dude who owns a company selling guns wants America to go to war so he can make money, he asks his friend in the government if America would go to war with Germany if they attacked our citizens...of course they would. so this dude gets a ship and loads it with civilians, the Lusitania, and on top of that he puts weapons in the brig. He sends it into the waters of Ireland bound for England. Germany controlled those waters and the US knew that. Germany heard about this months in advance and for months it put adds in the New York times advising people not to board the Lusitania or they would be boarded and taken as prisoners. So the ship sets sail for england in enemy controlled water, with ammo and explosives stored on it. Germany sinks it and 128 americans die. why would we do that? Because no one wanted to go to war in America except for the people who profited off of war. And the sinking of a civilian ship would surely be reason enough to make Americans go into war. how about the gulf of Tonkin incident? or how about the rise of the federal reserve bank? or how about the deliberate use of Pearl harbor as a way for america to gain entry to world war two or how about American companies that supplied Nazi Germany with weapons while we were at war with him?' How about the Pentagon never having any jet debris left after the crash, or any of the other sites. Or how about the free fall speed at which the buildings fell, due to fire? There were only three steel buildings to ever fall due to fire, and they all fell on that day? This isn't no hippy, UFO, big foot conspiracy shit about Nazis living inside the earth attacking us. Who ever trusts the government is a complete fool and knows nothing of history. as some greek philosopher said "All democratic nations become run by Dictators" |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 10:58pm - narkybark ""] Did you just say that pearl harbor is a conspiracy? |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 11:09pm - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] narkybark said:Did you just say that pearl harbor is a conspiracy? Do you how much money and how much of an economic boost it was to go into world war two. and before you get all high and mighty, the conspiracy is that the president let it happen, not that it was set up. We had the intelligence to stop the Japanese, or atleast warn the navy at Pearl Harbor, multiple messages were intercepted and even a few patrol boats spotted the Japanese Fleet but were told not to take notice, that the Japanese were allowed to pass. I'm not saying it wasn't the Japanese who did it and of their own wanting, just that we could have warned them if we wanted, but we didn't...so we entered another war for more profit gains in the defense budget. If you made millions of of selling something wouldn't you go to any lengths to increase the sales of your product, in this case weapons. Don't the companies who build ships, tanks, guns, and ammo make more money during war rather than peace? |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 11:34pm - sacreligion ""] Y_Ddraig_Goch said:or how about the rise of the federal reserve bank? that's really the only thing you mentioned that concerns me...the rest seems just a TAD ludicrous. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 11:44pm - DEATH2ALL ""] 9-11 was an inside job. If you can't see that by now, you're blind. If you don't want to take the word of docs on Google & YouTube, ask the real questions yourself & look for answers. Anyone who believes the official explaination of 9-11 needs to wake the fuck up, cause you live in a fantasy world. If you think it's possible for two 110 floor steel framed buildings, to collapse to the ground in 10 fucking seconds, as a result of 757's crashing into them.... You're fully brainwashed. I know this because I was too, just like everyone else. The only steel framed buildings that have ever "collapsed" as a result of "Fire weakening steel", or even from planes hitting them, are WTC 1,2, & 7. And coincidently all on the same day. Why did building 7 fall?? Ask yourself that question. How is it possible for a "commercial airliner" to crash into the pentagon? The pentagon is the most heavily armed & protected building in the world. It has a self contained missile defense system designed to fire at any non millitary aircraft that gets too close. Why did they release 1 useless video from the pentagon? There are thousands of cameras at the pentagon & around the pentagon. It's a fuckin joke. Everyone should be fuckin outraged that the powers that be think we're so fuckin stupid & oblivious, that they can paint this picture. But instead we get outraged when anyone questions authority. Why? Cause we ARE that fuckin stupid & oblivious. It's fuckin pathetic! This is a touchy subject for me cause I have researched this extensively & I've come to my own conclusions about it. I've avoided discussing it here though, because I knew these arguments would happen. But at this point, fuck it. If you're here saying "9-11 was an inside job", I applaud you for doing so, knowing you'd be called a "conspiracy nut, retard, liberal fag, jobless" or that "you have too much time on your hands". I do have a full time job, (40hrs a week plus on call 1 week a month), as well as 2 bands that practice 4 to 5 days a week & play 1 or 2 shows a month. I don't have enough time on my hands. The media DOES NOT have me so fucked up, because I don't watch the news. I have to search for the news because mainstream media is 100% corrupt & does nothing more than lie to the people everyday. I'm not a "liberal fag", because I've learned enough to know that both sides of the system are equally fucked. The system is corrupt & doesn't work. I don't think I'm "agatha fucking christy". I've researched the subject & many others, for the sake of my own personal understanding. Anyone who thinks they have too little time to worry about whether 9-11 was a conspiracy, deserves what their government does to them. But if you're gonna ridicule someone for their opinions, at least have some fact to back up your own. You can call me whatever you want, but I guarentee I'm more educated on the subject than anyone who'd ridicule me. |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 11:47pm - horror_tang ""] Fucking hippies. |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 11:50pm - sacreligion ""] it's true that the government no longer works for the people, but the people instead work for the government i've looked into all the same stuff, and some of it does come across as outlandish coincidence, but a lot of the details don't add up to the government's story. maybe they're not behind the attacks, but i do think that there's more to it than what they say |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 9,2007 11:58pm - DEATH2ALL ""] sacreligion said:it's true that the government no longer works for the people, but the people instead work for the government i've looked into all the same stuff, and some of it does come across as outlandish coincidence, but a lot of the details don't add up to the government's story. maybe they're not behind the attacks, but i do think that there's more to it than what they say Like what? |
| _______________________________ [Sep 9,2007 11:59pm - Arist ""] I agree Sacreligion. There's always more to it than we know, i've heard Israel's name brought up within the "inside job" theory, which only adds another level of complexity/confusion and a number of possibilities for the truth. The government's story doesn't add up, but the real answer might be different than even both sides expect |
| ________________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 12:07am - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] Arist said:I agree Sacreligion. There's always more to it than we know, i've heard Israel's name brought up within the "inside job" theory, which only adds another level of complexity/confusion and a number of possibilities for the truth. The government's story doesn't add up, but the real answer might be different than even both sides expect Four Israelis were caught across the bay in a van dancing and celebrating taking pictures of the towers. They were arrested and then released and the news story was only aired once. |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 12:09am - sacreligion ""] well if you look at all the evidence that gets brought up in support of the "inside job" theory, it's very easy to paint a picture when your mind can help fill in the missing parts. the real question to ask is "why would the government do this?" obviously people say it was a catalyst to gain a stronger presence in the middle east, whether it be for control purposes or solely for oil. people also claim that there was a MASSIVE insurance policy placed on the towers shortly before the attacks, and the fact that there was some odd amount of billions of dollars worth of gold and silver beneath the site. the only problem i have when reading into all this is the fact you have to start considering the influence of the ol' "new world order" clusterfuck. now the motives and the means seem plausible, but how exactly can the powers that be use events like 9/11 to work out as they want? obviously there are those who will question their motives, and the danger of losing all they had worked for hangs in the balance. what would they gain from pushing the will of the american people into a realm where the masses might start to distrust their government and want to make a change? that's kind of a stretch, but i just have problems in believing that a small group can control a huge group even with the assistance of the media and "democratic" governments. the whole thing stinks like yesterdays diapers. and yes, i do read into a LOT of conspiracy theories. enough to the point where it's nearly impossible to discern what's actually real and what's lies, and that inherently makes you question everything. so therefore i have a hard time believing anything, really. wow, that was quite a rant there |
| ________________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 12:11am - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] here's the thing about Israel's connection "The suggestion of an Israeli connection to the events surrounding 9/11 did not spring, full blown, like Athena from the head of Zeus. It had been hovering in the background, implied in odd accounts such as the one about the group of Israelis picked by the FBI after they were spotted in Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, laughing and giving each other high-fives as the World Trade Center burned on the other side of the river. In an astonishing story in the Bergen Record, we learn that 5 men described as "Israeli tourists," were picked up 8 hours after the WTC attack, "carrying maps linking them to the blasts." "...[S]ources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot. 'There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted,' the source said. 'It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park.'" According to this account, the 5 "tourists" had been picked up by local police after receiving the following alert from the FBI: "Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack. White, 2000 Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration with 'Urban Moving Systems' sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center. Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals." |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 12:35am - DEATH2ALL ""] sacreligion said:well if you look at all the evidence that gets brought up in support of the "inside job" theory, it's very easy to paint a picture when your mind can help fill in the missing parts. the real question to ask is "why would the government do this?" obviously people say it was a catalyst to gain a stronger presence in the middle east, whether it be for control purposes or solely for oil. people also claim that there was a MASSIVE insurance policy placed on the towers shortly before the attacks, and the fact that there was some odd amount of billions of dollars worth of gold and silver beneath the site. the only problem i have when reading into all this is the fact you have to start considering the influence of the ol' "new world order" clusterfuck. now the motives and the means seem plausible, but how exactly can the powers that be use events like 9/11 to work out as they want? obviously there are those who will question their motives, and the danger of losing all they had worked for hangs in the balance. what would they gain from pushing the will of the american people into a realm where the masses might start to distrust their government and want to make a change? that's kind of a stretch, but i just have problems in believing that a small group can control a huge group even with the assistance of the media and "democratic" governments. the whole thing stinks like yesterdays diapers. and yes, i do read into a LOT of conspiracy theories. enough to the point where it's nearly impossible to discern what's actually real and what's lies, and that inherently makes you question everything. so therefore i have a hard time believing anything, really. wow, that was quite a rant there That is brilliant! That's how fucked up everything is.... You can't be sure what to believe. I don't personally believe that the government as a whole was behind the event. I believe people in hi ranking parts of the government were involved, while serving another cause/group... New world order, illuminati, whatever you wanna call it. When you look further into that, you see an agenda for 1 world government. |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 12:44am - PatMeebles ""] There was plenty of debris at the crash site. Fire alone did not cause the building to collapse. The WTC was not built to withstand those specific size jets at over 600 mph. The plane knocked out support and the fire caused the steel to lose integrity (aka NOT MELT but close enough). I'm interested in what the pentagon has for a missile defense system. Please tell me about this. Oh yeah, and the WTC was attacked before. It's only good business to take out an insurance plan for a terrorist attack because, you know, terrorists attacked it before! I also found the pearl harbor reference to be completely laughable. A country's government attacks us, killing over 2,000 servicemen and women and civilians, and the fact that we defend ourselves by justifiably going to war means that it was a huge conspiracy to make money. Just because something makes money, doesn't make money the reason. |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 2:20am - sacreligion ""] DEATH2ALL said:That is brilliant! That's how fucked up everything is.... You can't be sure what to believe. I don't personally believe that the government as a whole was behind the event. I believe people in hi ranking parts of the government were involved, while serving another cause/group... New world order, illuminati, whatever you wanna call it. When you look further into that, you see an agenda for 1 world government. haha thanks...i thought it seemed too all over the place to make sense. but yea, whatever you want to call it, there are people interested in unifying the world under one government to make things easier for those in power. if there were a global police state to control what you did, it would be much easier to create laws that pretty much prohibit any free thought, as your main interest would be to stay in their good graces. not to mention...you can make a lotta money when everything is tied in together. i get sick when i think about this stuff too much, because it makes too much sense when all the different links come together. i suppose it is easier to just deny it and not worry about it. i'm just waiting for the day when the people get pushed too far, though. a small bunch of "nutjobs" can't change the world, but a small bunch of nutjobs might be able to help wake the rest of society the fuck up. YOUR GOVERNMENT LIES TO YOU, BLATANTLY! YOUR TRUSTED NEWS SOURCES ARE SKEWED BY POLITICAL AGENDA! YOUR REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT IS AT THE MERCY OF LOBBYISTS BACKED BY BOTTOMLESS POCKETS! DAY AFTER DAY MORE PEOPLE ARE NUMBED BY THE POWER OF PHARMACEUTICALS AND GLOWBOXES! ANY WHO ASK QUESTIONS ARE LABELED UNPATRIOTIC! yet we still blindly obey. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 10:08am - DestroyYouAlot ""] WTC WAS DONE BY MADELEINE MCCANN'S PARENTS |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 10:40am - DEATH2ALL ""] PatMeebles said:There was plenty of debris at the crash site. Fire alone did not cause the building to collapse. The WTC was not built to withstand those specific size jets at over 600 mph. The plane knocked out support and the fire caused the steel to lose integrity (aka NOT MELT but close enough). I'm interested in what the pentagon has for a missile defense system. Please tell me about this. Oh yeah, and the WTC was attacked before. It's only good business to take out an insurance plan for a terrorist attack because, you know, terrorists attacked it before! I also found the pearl harbor reference to be completely laughable. A country's government attacks us, killing over 2,000 servicemen and women and civilians, and the fact that we defend ourselves by justifiably going to war means that it was a huge conspiracy to make money. Just because something makes money, doesn't make money the reason. The WTC was designed to take a 707, fully loaded, at full speed & still stand. The planes that hit them were 757's. The weight difference between the 2, fully loaded.... 100lbs. And the 757's were not fully loaded. Those planes didn't even affect the inner core of those buildings. If the buildings fell the way they say they did, the core of the buildings, (47 steel box collumns-4"thick- 4.5ftx2.5ft) would still be standing today. There's no way jet fuel, (kerosene) burning for 1 - 2 hours weakened those collumns. The pentagon has a missile defense system designed to shoot down any aircraft w/o a millitary transponder, within range. This is no secret. Why question that? We should hope that the heart of the American millitary would have such defense systems. yes it's good business to insure property already attacked by terrorists, But Larry Silversteins policy was paid out twice & he collected more than double the amount he spent on the WTC, roughly 4 Billion dollars. He invested 1.6billion when purchasing the WTC. 6 months later he more than doubled his money. As far as Pearl Harbor... It is de-classified info that FDR knew the attack was coming. He did nothing and the horror of it allowed for the US to enter the war. The people demanded it actually. What would they have demanded if they knew that FDR had knowledge & allowed it to happen? |
| ________________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 10:54am - babyshaker213 ""] i wrote a big long winded thing about integrity of building quality steal but no one else will listen/care so why push my beliefs on someone else |
| ________________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 12:12pm - y_ddraig_goch ""] Yeah no one here will care to know that it is quite rare, in fact only happened on one day, that a steel building has ever fell from fire. People rather keep going working like slaves without chains to the Government, taking the pills they are given, watching the news and cheering. Anyone find it strange that fox news is filled with ex military? |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 12:29pm - sacreligion ""] trying to get people to believe in that sort of thing is like trying to get people like us to not believe it |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 12:44pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Or trying to get the peanut butter out of the chocolate in a delicious Reese's peanut butter cup. |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 1:37pm - y_ddraig_goch ""] DestroyYouAlot said:Or trying to get the peanut butter out of the chocolate in a delicious Reese's peanut butter cup. They sell the peanut butter at grocery stores |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 1:43pm - sacreligion ""] now that's the last straw...you really are a nutjob! |
| ___________________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 4:49pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] [img] |
| __________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 5:54pm - Dankill ""] Uhhhh, one that I can debunk right now that you got ass backwards is your WWI theory. The reason we went to war was the Zimmerman Telegram, which was sent from Germany to Mexico TWO YEARS after the Lusitania was sunk. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 10,2007 7:14pm - Hoser ""] I fully agree with Peebles, I also looked up some of Draig's supposed "factual" theories....all of which turned out to be laughable pieces of paranoid schizophrenia. I'm not trying to be inflammatory here but they are bullshit created by bullshit artists without jobs. I'm not preaching that believing what any totalitarian government says is good, I'm just running a fine toothed comb through all of this and every theory that you posted came out 1st as the biggest pieces of shit in the sand. I'll tell you where government injustice truly lies....Waco and Ruby Ridge. Not conspiracies but blatant disregard for American rights. Like I said....not trying to be inflammatory as I typically am.....but those turds that you posted stink to high Heaven. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 8:06pm - shamash ""] Within secret circles of the highest security, there's a known fact of a group only known as S.P.E.C.T.R.E (SPecial Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion). Their diabolical methods can only be descibed as "ruthless". The few remaining witnesses can only describe their leader as "some dude-guy with a white suit and an eye patch... and a fuckin' cat". |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 8:41pm - PatMeebles ""] [IMG src[img] notice the aluminum confetti on the ground? |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 8:43pm - tylerl nli ""] wtc building 7! what's sketchier than that?! |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 8:56pm - PatMeebles ""] Also, when the planes hit the WTC, do you really think the liquid fuel just stayed in one place? The fuel went down vents and utility shafts, setting everything around in on fire, therefore making more fire and a higher temperature. Also, technically the WTC did take the impact of the plane. It did stand for a while before finally collapsing due to a loss in structural integrity. The titanic was designed to withstand an iceberg. Designers make mistakes, too (or are unable to deal with all the factors, like an UNcontained fire). |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 9:00pm - PatMeebles ""] [img] |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 9:16pm - DEATH2ALL ""] PatMeebles said:[IMG src[img] notice the aluminum confetti on the ground? Where's the engines? Why was there an engine found at the site that doesn't belong to the plane that supposedly hit it? Why did that plane avoid it's direct path to the pentagon & re-position itself, to hit the 1 side of the pentagon that had just been renovated & re-designed to take an impact like that? They lined all the walls with Kevlar & other impact resistant materials, installed 2" thick blast proof glass in the windows. Why won't they release the tapes from the black boxes? Why is there light poles knocked over, showing a flight path that is different than the path recorded by the flight data recorder? It's funny that you got that pic from Popular Mechanics. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 10,2007 9:20pm - DEATH2ALL ""] PatMeebles said:[img] So why didn't buildings 5 and 6 fall down? You can't even see them in that chaos. They were closer than building 7 & suffered way more damage. Yet they stood there till 3 or 4 months later, when they were demolished by engineers in the clean up. |
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